>Where do I start?old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/indexPrev: >>77349292
what do you take to not get injured
Cardarine improves my cardio immensely And lifting endurance Second cycle running it. 10mg a day >But le heckin cancerI have looked into it enough the risk is worth it for me
>>77369455Natty pills
>>77369455Personal experience as someone training for strength, I kept getting mini tears in my hamstring/adductor and my pec tendon as well.I just reduced the frequency desu. I was bench pressing and squatting 3 times a week now I only squat once a week and bench press twice a week.I know people say you recover better on steroids but for me I need longer rest because I train harder on steroids.I also added more accessories that target the weaker areas and try to target smaller supporting muscles.If you know you didn't sleep well that night and have a hard training session ahead of you just don't follow the plan and do something lighter instead.If you feel a "warning" pain while warming up or something feels off just take a break, rather skip a session than get injured and then have to wait weeks to catch up again.If you are injured you can try BPC-157 and TB-500
Just an FYI for people doing PCT: Based on my experience, taking Enclomiphene daily is more important than the amount being taken, for example, it's better to take 6.25mg or 12.5mg daily, rather than taking 25mg every other day. Obviously, being able to take 25mg daily is the gold standard, but if you can't handle that amount due to side effects, then just take highest amount you can tolerate daily without getting sides (as opposed to using every other day or every three days).
>>77369455just like you should be doing naturally, focus on control and not ego weight numbers
Im on equipoise and 25mg daily anavar1750 cals a day and my weight jumped 3kg after a week, lowered a bit and has remained stagnant for 2 weeks nowIm coping and thinking im recomping and my waist is more defined and that once im done with the gear ill drop 4kg fairly quick
why is bac water so hard to find? I figured it would be amazon but they are gay.Gimme a source plz
>>77369419Start by setting aside a fund for burial expense and asset distribution
>>77369897I use this idk if it's real thoughhttps://www.uk-peptides.com/10ml-bacteriostatic-water
>>77369902>limey fag shit on an American board
>>77369897I bought some on amazon beforehttps://injectionshop.com/sol-ba-diluent-30ml.html/
>>77369455You take peptides after injury, like BPC-157.
>>77369976>https://injectionshop.com/sol-ba-diluent-30ml.html/thanks but every place is out of stock :(
>>77369987https://www.bacteriostaticwater.com/collections/bacteriostatic-water/products/bacteriostatic-water-30mltook 5 secs with chatgpt
NAD+Mots CShould I try these niggas? Yes or no? Any experience using it? Thank you for your attention to this matter!
>>77369383tempo -- slow your shit down. two seconds eccentric, four seconds concentric. pause at concentric bottom the weight on for two seconds between reps. make sure you're doing full reps, unless you have some plateau and you're trying to build up a certain group to be able to get past it. make sure you're not cheating reps, so no bouncing, no jumping to get momentum to start a lift, no swinging shit around. when you weed out the bad behaviors, shit gets surprisingly difficult, and you'll find you need to drop the weight to get full clean sets. and don't get me wrong, i'm not saying NEVER increase the weight. just it's real easy to add five pounds on the bar every week or two, and your tendons just can't keep up with that shit. you'll get stoked at setting pr's every week, and you'll keep adding more and more, then one day that's it. you're done. you're out for six months of therapy, you'll get set back years of progress, and you'll have a pain that never leaves for the rest of your life
>>77370007I use NAD+ don't really notice anything desu but I have a bunch still so I will keep using it because why not.
How true is this?
>>77370005>took 5 secs with chatgptyeah I found that too but its $20 for shipping.They can fuck themselves
>>77370141just high-aromatizors who are too retarded to figure out AI.The an important reason for 500mg test babby blast is to see how you aromatize and learn how to manage it.But these faggots just collapse to the ground incapacitated from easily managed side effectsbut its even easier just to lower the dose and not deal with it and in the end looking like a slightly bigger natty, if that.
>>77370251>Hey you know what would be the best way to teach a kid how to swin? Throwing them in the ocean with a weighted vest.
>>77369419I've totally crashed my test and now i have 0 motivation and want to kill myself helpWhen will the nolva kick inIf I go to a doctor can they just put me back on test
Are you guys concerned about the long term health implications of roids, is dying early as a result of use something that concerns you in particular?Asking in good faith and not being a smug natty prick just want (you)r view on the matter
>>77370758Yes, I'm personally a health nut, so I'm constantly running blood tests and have a huge ancillary stack to offset every negative.The only steroid I megadose is testosterone anyway
I like steroids
>>77370095Thank you.That's the problem, I've heard the same with the Mots C. :(
>>77370251 Lmao this. Zoomers think they need 500mg, 750mg, 1g of everything. That's why they look like shit and have all kind of problems.
>>77370758Yes. That's why I'LL NEVER EVER USE TRENBOLONE, BECAUSE I'M NOT A PRO NOR A RETARDED GAY TIKTOK FAN ZOOMER EITHER.
>>77370876Coward
>>77370846Thanks for the reply, how does it tend to effect your mood? Do you find you're far more prone to rage?>>77370876Total Trenbolone death?
>>77371104NTA but for rage, I would say it doesn't make my anger more intense but it can make littler things add up into something that can piss me off. When I'm pissed off it takes a little longer to cool down. More aggressive/hateful thoughts in general. It definitely makes me more frustrated with other drivers on the road. Overall not a raging asshole or rude to anyone though.
I just want something that gives me energy. I want the same zing back I had when I was in my 20's. What supplement or peptide should I take? I can't get on test cause I'm going to try and get my wife pregnant again soon.
>>77371836test. Take HCG and it'll preserve your fertility.
>>77371836Adderall
>>77371836test. All last year I had fatigue that would fuck me in the ass every single day in spite of my diet being totally fine. Haven’t felt that way since trt
>>77371851>>77372140What are the side effects besides my sperm dying? >>77371855I would if I could get a legit prescription
>>77372140Is TRT really helpful? I'm 38. I should aim for what? 1000 total testosterone? 1500? 2000+?
>>77371104No, rage isn't the right way to put it. I'm less steered by emotions on androgens, but I have less tolerance for dumbassery,Flying off the handle emotionally is a low T, high estrogen sort of thing
>>77371836TRTT3 replacement therapy
>>77371836test is different for everyone. no guarantee it'll give you any energy, unless you're an old fuck like me. natural production starts dropping maybe even by 30 years. just go get a blood test. if you're in the states, look up hello good labs. complete blood count, complete metabolic panel, lipids, total testosterone + free test ms, estradiol (e2) ms, prostate androgens (psa?), prolactin (prl), sex hormone binding globulin (? shbg. i don't remember). get it all. it's like $160, no insurance. they'll set you up at a quest diagnostics blood lab. get it all so you know where you're at before you go fucking with things. look up meso forum, go to steroid underground, and click around domestic ugl's until you find one you're cool with. order testosterone cypionate (they're often 10ml vials with 200mg/ml test, and are often sold in kits of 10 vials. expect maybe $30-$40/vial. you'll use 4 a year. order a few years worth), and either exemestane (you might use 25mg/week on the high side) or arimidex (maybe 0.5mg/week if any) choose only of those not both 'cause they do the same thing. find some alcohol pads at the store. order some 5/8" 31g insulin needle+syringe online. trt dose wont make you infertile, so don't sweat it
>>77372190usual ranges top out at 1,200. there's no need to be that high for trt. aim for mid range -- 600-800
anyone used YK-11?
Anyone have experience with EQ + anadrol?Currently on 500 mg test + 400 mg EQ and HCT was at 48 a couple of weeks ago with 3 actual cardio sessions per week plus a plenty of walking (always above 10000 steps at a brisk pace) every dayI want to try anadrol for a few weeks but I'd rather not if this shit will quickly put me above 55 or somethingI'm willing to risk 52 or so for a few weeks
luv steronssimple as>>77371836modafinil
>>77372354I can tell my HCT is high as fuck but I will NOT get bloodwork I will just phlebotomize myself with a razorblade eventually.
>>77372440atta girl
>>77372488I meant blood letting not tranny suicide.
Pinned my quads for the first time 2 days ago and getting mad crazy pip.To the point where its gonna affect my leg workout
>>77372586skill issue
>>77372354Oh man, you're so lucky. I smell testosterone my hct goes to 52. Life's too unfair.
Do you approach your macros and bulking/cutting ant differently on TRT?
>>77373046Not really, more protein better than natty protein requirements, carb intake timing for muscle, clean bulking is 100% a requirement instead of dirty bulking but that’s mainly a macro thing versus dietary(?) depending on your goal of just putting on mass versus muscle mass weight gain etc
>>77372574both are good. everyone's so afraid to sit in a tub while they drain a pint. you can pick up the phlebotomy stuff online easy though. don't need a razor
>>77373020yeah mine hangs out around 55. all the same at 1.5g as 150mg though, so, whatever. natty was 48, so i'm just cursed. my house is a mile above sea level, so maybe that has something to do about it
>>77373535I have never done it or vein’d myself so I am cautious but I really should do it, I feel like a sausage. They don’t want my blood at the donation centre.
>>77370531500mg test is just wading in the waters.You're just fucking around in the little girls plastic pool from walmart with your old man trt dose of test and women's dose of anavar
I like anavar
>>77373648ANYTHING LESS THAN 400MG TREN IS FOR LITTLE GIRLS AND DYELS
Bros i fucking miss tren. Don't even care for the gains, i just liked feeling energetic and horny all the fucking time. Currently 3 months off cycle and counting down the days.
>>77373681>post about steriods in a steriod thread>be ascared to take steroids/fraud/, the thread
>>77370251I agree with this. South American here and on TRT. I tried to make Undecanoate work and using steroidplanner I decided to just pin 250mg weekly. I started, after a few months juat getting brain fog. The only AI I could find or get mailed was letrozol and I took a half pill andn saw some mood improvements but no sex drive. I got the brainfog after a while A few months back, I found a cypionate source so I started adding 250mg of that a week. Again, after a bit, my brainfog and laziness went away then at the beginning of may, it returned. I got bloods and things seemed fine. I stopped everything mid may and will do bloods again next week. I still notice brainfog but my sex drive for any female with a hole is through the roof. So, on a lark, I stopped scrolling social media reels - that has had a pretty quick impact on my exhaustion and brain fog. I think I was aeromatizing more, and will start up again after bloods, but I really think the Reals was a greater problem then I thought.
>>77373542I'm >>77372354Not sure if it's just genetics in my case but I've noticed that since I started walking everywhere everyday I haven't had cardio, BP, or HCT issues, so I'd recommend thatI say it since I live at 2600 mg above sea level (8500 ft)>>77373020>>77372440Okay fuck it I'll just try the anadrol since I have easy access to blood donation and it seems like I have lucky genetics
>>77374043i do need to do more cardio. i'll have to give it a go. thanks for the tip!
>>77369419I can never understand people who do PEDs, as you can't maintain that physique off-drugs.You'll either lose it all, or you will be forever hooked on drugs that will ruin your health. All of that for what? For a temporary shortcut to your dream physique? To get some pussy?When you get that physique at the end, was it all worth it?
>>77374328yes
Gonna blast cholesterol
What's a good stack for someone who just wants to excel at being in hot roofs all day. I am already on 120mg test c a week. Thinking of adding hgh and maybe some anavar
>>77374357Do you even what steroids are?
>>77374369So far the testosterone makes me feel great. Way better cardio and energy
>>77374376post cock
>>77374376placebo is a hell of a drug
>>77374335i'm severely hypogonadal. i'll be on shit for the rest of my life anyway. might as well get my dream physique while i'm at it. roiding for pussy is the single dumbest reason to roid. and joke's on you.... i've got body dysmorphia, so i'll never get the physique i want
can't wait to start juicing to look like shit and die
>>77374518I got more pussy natty and dyel than on gear and "big". I will never be happy with my physique no matter how many times my friends/coworkers compliment me and I will keep doing it for vanity reasons. But I do wish my ex came crawling back so I could fuck her one last time before moving on completely.
>the tren is in the mail
>>77374528yyyyup. hah. like the reason though
>>77374563see>>77373681
>>77374526this but unironically
tfw testicular cancer from trt :\
Are you supposed to blast during a bulk or towards the end of a cut?
>>77374759Depends, if you are lean/low BF% you can blast during bulk phase and stay lean if you don’t overeat too many calories and slop thanks to nutrient partitioning in general (body wants to put fuel into muscles instead of more fat when lean), it also depends on your goals and compound stack because you could run bulking gear and just fill up with water weight bloat and look fatter. I cut down to around 14% on TRT dosage (200mg test) then “blasted” 500mg with some Tren and var and am around 20% now just from getting lazy on meals and alcohol when going out during summer shindigs.
how much test to get to this mode as fast as possible
How much weight will I drop after going off 30mg var? Im only light trt equivalent injectiblesI went from 80kg to 83kg on var and am now 81.3kg Cut has been the same since before the orals so its not just the carb reduction
>>77374864all of it
>>77374528Time to troon out
>>77369419my balls still havent returned to normal after getting arrested and send to prison during a blast 4 years ago im on clomid and hcg am i fucked?
>>77375586how long have you been on clomid and hcg and what are your current total and free test levels?
best hcg schedule? daily? weekly? E3D?
>>77372586Give up, I did the same thing, I thought it would get better and kept pinning, after about 5 times in one side I just gave up.I'm trying upper chest now and actually like it.
>>77375900EOD, the half life is 36 hours or so
Getting blood work in 2 weeks. What keeps your hemocrotit low for you guys
Is Chinese test or var legit? This is from a STG seller.
redpill me on IGF-1LR3
>>77376150>here is a price list from an unnamed source>is it legitfuck off back to whatever retard asylum you escaped from
>>77376169I didn't ask about a specific vendor
>>77376248Yes it's legit from reliable source shops. Check COA's and recent reviews on meso/eroid
>>77376150stg does not allow oils. you're being scammed. also, what other anon said -- fucking kill yourself you fucking double nigger
>>77376161lol. no
>>77376150That shit is expensive. My TRT clinic is just a bit more than that for US pharmacy drugs shipped to your door. You can get test, deca, anadrol, anavar, viagra or cialis, any peptide etc. Just call any one of them and get a prescription. They will approve anything
>>77376370You get pharma test for $13 a vial?
>>77376312You first, faggot. Dude asked a question and you fly off the handle telling him to kill himself. Steroid users, in particular this general, are the biggest insecure faggots. Only been lurking /fraud/ like a week and I've seen you, or another faggot along with yourself, call several people a "double nigger" multiple times for asking simple questions. Guarantee you're some faggot with edgy tattoos. The whole steroid scene terminology like "blast and cruise" is gay as hell. It's psuedo-masculinity for insecure fags. You probably drive a big truck, too.
>>77376524zoom zoom spotted babbys first online interaction not on tiktok where u have to say grape and SA
>>77376035I do delts and get very little pip. I'm thinking to increase to 3 pins per week instead of 2 so I can inject less oil at a time.
>>77370622Lol should've stayed natty
>>77376555Checked but up it to every day.
>>77376161This video explains it much better than that large language model slophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFos-XhO3wgParacrine IGF-1 is based and produces anabolic as fuck splice variantsEndocrine IGF-1 is dogshit, ages you and desensitizes IGF-1 receptors
How do you niggas know how to even take steroids? It seems really complicated with the cycles, acquiring everything, knowing what's "safe" etc. How the fuck do you do it? I'm legit too retarded, pic related is literally me
>>77376882Not that I'm experienced, I just ordered my first cycle yesterday, test cypionate and AI just in case.I read the wiki in the OPand searchedhttp://desuarchive.org/fitto know what's based/not based according to this lovely communityeither way i think it requires reading
>>77376524>> underage>> doesnt google anything>> gets all their info from ten second interpretive dance videosgrim
>>77376882plebbit steroids wiki is actually not a terrible starting point to learn various key words. meso subforums have a ton of first cycle threads. just digging, my dude. avoid any site/forum that says redpill, mewing, maxxing, or stacey -- those places are full of nothing but idiot children. avoid any site whose "articles" are published in list format -- they're just trying to sell you useless shit. no, there's no peptide/sarm that's as anywhere near as good as roiding, but with little/no side effects. if an underground lab (ugl) has a website you can order from, you're most likely paying five to ten times too much. if you can't find reviews about a ugl by google'ing it, it's a scam. no, random indiamart sellers are not legit
>>77376720I asked about IGF-1LR3 not IGF-1
side of hip injection best for IM?
>>77377626VG is goated yes, not as good as Lats imo but better than quadsissies or glutefruits.
>>77377626Yep, love it.
i love pinningpin pin pin
Jesus, the prices other people pay.https://thepeptideplug.ai/
My hematocrit is at 67. What the hell should I do?>inb4: stop pinningOut of question.
>>77378003Sometimes I pin myself with nothing throughout the day to hype me up for pinning before bed.
>>77378049try not to die, i guess>> hydrate, nigga>> cardio>> go to the fucking doctor and get blood draw prescribed so they can drain two pints out of you before you have a fucking stroke
>>77378065oh, and don't take iron supplements, or eat red meat
>>77378049I run in the high 50s and I stopped worrying about it years ago, but 67 sounds like a medical emergency.I hate to be a reddetor who blames high HTC on dehydration, but maybe get tested again and be sure to drink a few quarts of water in the morning before the test.
>>77378065I never do cardio. Im bulking so the most I avoid spending calories the better.
>>77378073liss then. and at least a gallon of water every day
How hard is it to homebrew roids?
Can't stop clenching my jaw
>>77378267Your boyfriend must be pissed
>>77378209so fucking easy. you buy ba, bb, lab grade mct, a gram scale, heat safe beaker, filters, vacuum sealed vials, 20ml syringes, 21g pins, and a caulking gun. use a brew calculator to plan, weigh, measure, mix, melt, filter, done. 20g in 40 minutes. hard part is finding decent raws right now
>>77378506I raw’d your mom
>>77377150The video covers IGF1-LR3 dumb fuck
>>77377147>"articles" are published in list formatListicles. You'd think structured lists would be used to be more efficient at conveying knowledge than traditional inverted pyramid, but there's so much wordcel noise padding just absolutely tanking the information density.
>dont take AI>dick barely gets hard>take AI>knee and shoulder start hurtingMeh I will never balance this shit right
>>77378512:(
>>77379140listicles peaked in early cracked dot com, and have been in free fall ever since
>>77379231>> when do i start feeling better?>> that's the neat part! you don't!can you split the dose? my vagina makes me aromatize like a bitch, and i had the same problem. i end up taking maybe 6mg asin eod. 12mg on pin days had me constantly yoyo'ing. i tried 25mg once a week, and.... lol. dont do that
So, 4.5 weeks into my 500mg test only cycle I got my blood results back>Total T>15.1 nmol/l (436 ng/dl) > 149 nmol/l (4,297 ng/dl)>Free T>0.386 nmol/l (11.1 ng/dl) > 5.171 nmol/l (149.1 ng/dl)>Oestradiol>95.1 pmol/l > 404 pmol/l>prolactin>139 mlU/l > 322 mlU/l>SHBG>17.7 nmol/l > 15 nmol/lSo I 13x'd my free T but also blasted my oestradiol up. My prolactin also jumped a lot but its still in the "normal" range apparently. I do 2 pins per week at the moment. Last pin was on thursday before getting the blood test on a monday.I'm going to switch to pinning eod (because putting in 1ml oil at a time sucks).I don't really any side effects apart from maybe some moodiness and slightly oily face, buts its difficult to tell. Should I take a pre-emptive dose of arimidex or just ride it out for a while? Maybe the eod pinning will help?Also going to start taking hcg too.
>>77378049Anon preste atenção: Se esse valor está correto, é uma emergência médica. Você precisa AGORA ir num pronto socorro e solicitar uma sangria. Se você não quer falar sobre uso de anabolizantes, fale que você foi doar sangue e descobriu que o valor está muito alto, 60+.Você pode sofrer vários problemas no curtíssimo prazo como infarto, derrame, etc. Não perca tempo, pode ser fatal.TLDR: Vá agora para um hospital e solicite sangria terapêutica. Cesse todo e qualquer uso de anabolizantes.
>>77379440oui o algo
>>77379366You 4x'd your E2 idk what those units translate to in the units I get my results in but I'm guessing a shit ton of it is aromatizing. Your free T conversion seems fucked though, maybe off by 10x in terms of the ng/dl? My free T on 200mg is 450 ng/dl. More frequent pinning will definitely help with the E2 so it's probably best to change the pins and after 2 weeks get another test to see where the E2 is at and if it's still bad then take an AI.
>niggas really would rather pin 1ml twice a week instead of .35ml every day
So solid phase peptide synthesis (SPPS) has a supply chain that starts with protected amino acids as the raw building blocks. Which, of course, are mass produced cheaply in China.The actual synthesis requires a large amount of skilled labor. Which fortunately is also available in China.How long will it take for other countries to upskill their own peptide synthesis experts to get in on the peptide game? They sure learned to synthesize fentanyl when that was taking off.
>>77380363Hims is the only company trying to do it in the US
>>77380282>> nigga would rather pin .35ml every day rather then 1ml every day
>>77380363never. china is so far ahead of the game that even india outsources pharma to them. nobody can touch china's price for the quantity & quality of their output
>>77380451Plenty of others are using compounding pharmacies now. Some companies are very hush hush about it and have a high entry fee to weed out those who aren't serious and feds. I've seen CJC without DAC and Ipa combo offered, CJC without DAC doesn't even have a clinical trial let alone FDA approval.
>>77380562>niggas would rather rotate 2 injection sites rather than 10
What are some obscure steroids you guys would love to try? For me it's clostebol and norclostebol.
>>77381319Testosterone
>>77381319toblerone
>>77380908hey elementary school teachers trained us for this... heeeeead, shoulders, knees and toes. pin in your eyes, your mouth, and your nose.
>>77369419You guys are speed running to an early grave
>>77381998You don't actually care about that since you support people that choose to die in hospitals.Tell us what is really bothering you.Let me guess you don't want to get mogged... boohoo natty baby
>>77381998Duh why tf do you think I don't check blood levels.
>>77382055What did he mean by this?>>77382074Based
>>77381998Good
>>77381998Nah, im trying and it's not working I think I was lied to about them being unhealthy I just wanna die jacked, is that such an ask?
>>77381998god willing
Tonight’s the night…
finally on my third cycle i'm doing the things the right way and having way better results. i wish i wasn't as retarded how do i develop patience and self control?
>>77381998literally win win
>>77382412All you can do is be there for newbies, I have taught at least 2 people how to do things correctly because I wasted about 5months doing it wrong.
I want to travel with my test but am worried about getting in trouble. Do any vendors/sites sell fake prescription labels I can put on my gear? If not I guess I'll do 1 month at a trt clinic so I can have a legal vial.
>>77382343?
Rusfertide anyone
>>77383179>RusfertideI hardly know her!
>>77383179>Rusfertidewhere 2 cop?
I'm reaching the age where I have to start taking injuries seriously as I endevour into unc statuswhats the general consensus on BPC-157 and TB-500. (5g of each)I found a local store that sells them as a blend but I'm a complete natty. The site says 10-15 units of 50 mcg daily (25 of each). But I'd rather hear from people who used or still use itany problems after taking it long term?
>>77383553I bought a kit of each. I've used it for all types of injuries, muscle sprains, strains, joint pains, tendonitis pain.And it's never done a damn thing.But people want to believe it works, easier to fool someone than convince them theyve been fooled and so on and so forth
>>77383560really?with how much hype there's behind them I assumed they worked better
>>77383553whats the general consensus on BPC-157 and TB-500500mcg bpc 157 a day, 2mg TB500 twice a week>local store I wouldn't buy peptides from a store
>>77382939>injects Chinese drugs in ass>afraid to smuggle Chinese drugs up said assholelmao
>>77383717its a webstore, I say local because its based in my countrywhere would you get them otherwise?
>>77383733stairwaytogreyjoin the tg/loqa groupIf someone DMs you they're a scammer. Do your research before buying. All the big China sellers are flagged by Cashapp, Coinbase, etc so you'll get banned if you send directly to them. Use a wallet like Trust wallet for mobile to send them BTC.Godspeed, lil nigga
>>77383761whats the difference?
>>77383775much cheaper and you can find third party testing so you know the shit is pure
For anyone on TRT, do you do IM on your leg/high or sub on your stomach?
>>77383789ventrogluteal
>>77383553yeah, hit and miss. i used a lot of both for a minute, and saw nothing. i do hear hgh is baller for us old fucks though. i have yet to try it though. just 2-4iu a day though. don't need the roid gut 20iu ed doses>>77383789it's very individual. just gotta experiment, and find what works best for you. like everyone hates on quads, but i fuckin love it. even better than vg for me
>>77383789Side delt for me, gonna try lats next
>>77383789only fags do Sub on tummy because they saw a tiktok reel of it and will never try different areas
>>77383570He probably underdosed or got bunk, BPC/TB stack helps a ton I fixed an injury I had for months on just BPC157 but I got it for a fraction of the price from a friend who had extra.
>>77369419>fucking (((businessweek))) covered Janoshik and the China sellersWelp there goes the neighborhood.
>>77384027rip in peace jano :( didn't he just get a legit contract, too? that's rough
>>77384027https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2026-peptide-legalization-gold-rush/?srnd=phx-businessweek
now that the dust has settled, tirz or reta?
>>77383560Yeah I had the same experience, but I think it probably depends on what kind of injury it is. I was cutting and my shoulder was not enjoying squats or being raised. I don't think anything can make you heal better if you're in a deficit. That and it could have been inflammation rather than damage. So I can't say that for everyone it wouldn't work but it's not some miracle make pain go away drug.Anyone claiming it is you can probably ignore as a certified retard who fell for the placebo effect. Embarassing.>>77383717Just get the combo vials and do it daily. Low risk to trying this shit at least in the short term.>>77384010A lot of stuff on the market is real it's just not a miracle drug.>>77384175Tirz for appetite suppression reta for the end of the cut
I just took a fat shit
OK guyswhy are most testosterone doses like 200 or 300mg? With most guys on 500mg+ per week - why the fuck wouldn't you just pin once per week and keep it simple?I think I am allergic oil suspension - I've tried 3x different versions of test and I always get minor flu-like symptoms the day of - nothing major - but enough to make me not want to pin twice a week. On top of that all the sources I'm looking at right now are sold out on anything over 400mg. If they made a 1000 or 2000mg version of test I would be all over it - I'd just take half a dose... I must be missing something...
>>77384377200 is what trt clinics prescribe for trt levels. 300 is entry level babbys first cycle. 500 is where the risk of side effects start to ramp up more>pin once a weekconstant pins = more hormone stability
>>77384377Like >>77384399 said, hormone fluctuations are what causes most side effects. I pin EOD now after 2x/wk and it has been an absolute game changer. Virtually zero acne, always horny, AI is easier to dose as there are lower peaks and the body isn’t being flooded with 250mg of test at once, and it’s more fun because more pins = more gains.What you’re describing is “test flu”, and it always happens to me at the start of a blast. You should try EOD pinning, it would solve your problems. Your test flu symptoms would be less severe since the first pin would have 1/2 or 1/3 the amount it normally does, so the immediate rush of hormones wouldn’t be as jarring for your system. Either way, just stick it out as the flu symptoms always dissipate by the second week if you just push through.
Aside from var, what are some fraud options for girls who want a nice gym body without looking like a veiny man or troon?
>>77383789I pin my side delts and read delts. Nothing else. Sundays I do side delts and Thursdays read delts. I get in 1ml (100 units) of gear each time of test, eq and Npp. I will never pin quads because risky and I don't use needles long enough for glutes. I would consider ventrogluteI pin with 29 gauge 1/2 inch slin pins
>>77384596Rear delts*
>>77384584Just low dose var honestly anything else the manly sides are very problematic
>>773845961ml per side btw. 1 ml in each delt each time. 2ml total. 4ml a week
>>77384596Only thing bad that has happened from me pinning quads SubQ is PIP for a day or two and it’s manageable while I do blue collar shit all day. Lump right after injecting you just massage gun it flat and spread the oil under the skin. I used to do quads once a week with a 1” IM syringe and that sucked ASS compared to daily subQ rotations of like 0.45ml/day. The quad hate is understandable but overblown honestly. Everyones different but it’s such an easy site to pinch and 45degree pin under the skin above the muscle.
>>77384377do you mean why are oils all brewed at 200mg/ml? because at a certain point, shit dont wanna mix. put too much active in, and it wont dissolve. okay, so add more bb, right? well bb is absorbed by the body faster than the oil, so the active will recrystalize in your muscle, and it hurts like a motherfucker. then some shit just fuckin kills. there's a reason you sometimes see 400mg/ml test, but never tren, and that reason is agony. i think mct holds suspension better than some other oils, so you can get a higher mg/ml with careful brew techniques, but a lot of ugl's are dumb fucks, so... no high concentrations. i think eo is a bit better than mct? but eo is hit and miss for a lot of people, so ugl's just don't have the demand to want to bother. plus i think there's a cancer scare or some shit around eo too
>>77384584low dose test. i don't remember what though.... 20mg/week maybe? aiming for 140ng/dl or something like that. high for sure, but not in the mustache or monster clit zone. hgh, too. you can do the same 4iu/ed. and uhh... shit... was it dbol? there's a steroidsxx subplebbit that's got some actual decent chatter on it from other ladies. hit them up. having said that, do lots of var. varbies are 11/10
>>77384596quads risky? shit even docs show you how to do that at home. how fat is your ass? i use 5/8 31g slin pins just fine in vg
>>77383553It healed my tennis and golf elbow. But I took a ton of them. People are too dumb and use pathetic protocols and conplain later that didn't work.First I used a mix of them 10+10mg bpc/tb500, I injected 500mcg each elbow ED, then 1mg each elbow ED, that during ~8 weeks, then I bought only BPC157 and repeated 500mcg each elbow for more 4 weeks.It's basically 95% gone.
>>77384175Tirz is king, retardtrutide is just Redditrutide
>>77384899Tirz is good for what actual fat niggas need it for, appetite suppression, but Reta is better for people who just need help cutting.
pinning a gram of test and EQ per week haven't seen sides yet
>>77384324>>77384899>>77385005 All answers are correct desu
>>77375619my test was 300 total last test i got havent done bloods since starting clomidalso on reta currently
>>77369419Chat, is this true? Anyone tried permanently microdosing anadrol with some enclomiphene/exemestane? Looks like good alternative to cycling for slow, consistent gains.
Ru58842 blocks all androgens from scalp receptors, right? Not just DHT? So theoretically DHB from EQ wouldn’t affect the scalp either?
>>77385278I've been interested in stuff like proviron for possibly increasing libido with a boost in test as a secondary effect. Given that it isn't really suppressive it seems like one of the best candidates to mix with enclo. Maybe anadrol or anavar would help but there is a risk of suppression. Mind you their half lives are all similar to oral TRT, which...I take oral TRT with 25mg enclomiphene currently. Low point is 750 total test high point is 1400 total test. The half life on the oral TRT is short enough that it doesn't successfully suppress your natural production though it does temporarily lower LH and FSH.>>77385283No long term trials and reported that it can absorb into the bloodstream is pretty concerning. If it really is absorbed then the libido side effects reported would make sense (ie you're basically taking a retarded finasteride). Can cause brain fog and cardiovascular effects. I'm going to say stay away from that shit and just do min and fin.
Some guy said I can crash my e2 on 750 test 300 EQ. WTF? Is this even a possibility? How do people even run EQ then? With 1g+ of test? Cause 300 EQ is a baby dose and I get high e2 symptoms even from 250 test a week so I guess I aromatize a lot
>>77385353>Maybe anadrol or anavar would help but there is a risk of suppression.Short-term suppression isn't a problem, anadrol or anavar will provide more anabolism than testosterone they replace anyway. Vigorous Steve managed to return his testosterone production to high end of reference range after years of steroid abuse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCk-o6PGCpc
>>77385357EQ and many other roids tend to have individual responsesSome people doing get the AI effect at all and can run EQ higher than testSome are the opposite fafo
>>77385570>doing *don't
>>77385357you should wait for signs before running AI even with gigantic doses
I lost the OG pantyboy image. Can somebody post it? Thanks bb
>>77385769nvm found it
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>>77385353what dose of oral TRT are you on?
where the hell should i even start for pinning locations and im vs subq, im doing first ever babby cycle of 350-500 test and then im also gonna take HCG. man everyone just says different things, i just wanna order my needles already, maybe i should buy one of every kind of fuckin needle so i can experiment, i mean jesus.
>>77385840hi here a fellow retard, everytime that i try to pin my ass i always end up cutting myself or the needle breaks down so i became a quad/delt guy, sometimes it hurts most times it don't but you shouldn't really care and it won't be a problem long term cause you will find what works best for you.now the first pin felt adrenaline wise like when you lose your virginity i remember my chest getting contracted as the oil was getting in
>>77385840all of this varies greatly per person. pin sites, effects, side effects, dosages, gains, losses. all of it. you're never going to get a straight answer for anything because how things work for me aren't gonna be how it works for you, or anyone else. that's exactly why every none dumb fuck all say to do 500mg test for your first blast, because you need to figure out how this shit is gonna effect you before you go adding things. if you start with a bunch of bullshit, it's impossible to figure out what is doing what. tldr yes, experiment
>>77385875also 23g syringe work just fine specially for Test E, twice a week at least don't be a lazy fag that only pins once a week
>>77385379Yeah it's not the end of the world and totally recoverable. My point was presumably if you're taking enclo it's to not get suppressed. It doesn't do anything but fuck with your estrogen levels if you take too much test at the same time and the whole point is to boost natural production. So you'd have to be careful with how much of those compounds you took at once.>>77385839600mg. I think I'm a high responder to exogenous test, on topical TRT 200mg I was hitting 1200 (but got suppressed so that was 100% the topical). Haven't tried injectable because that's basically a guaranteed shutdown and also just seems like a pain in the ass.
>>77385840>Daily/Every Other Day = Subcutaneous >Weekly or Twice a week = IMDaily/EoD should use higher gauge and rotate injection sites for less scar tissue and risk of underskin cysts from the oil not being absorbed before adding more. I use 29g 5/8” 1cc insulin syringes for daily subQ. Daily is best or EoD for keeping hornone levels balanced (there is steroid plotter sites) less peaks/valleys of your hormones the better your side effects will be and your gains. Less frequent pins results in fluctuations and possibly more side effects. the Redit wiki linked in OP is actually helpful but you can also use bodybuilding forums that show other people’s cycle adventures. Pin sites pretty much depend on your comfortability on location and how easy it is for you, if you are fat and have low muscle (you shouldn’t do steroids anyways) you will need longer needle to get to your muscle site for IM injection but flexibility too comes into play I personally can’t pin my ass easily so ventroglute is easy, lats are easy (under armpit) quads are easy but suck for some people, pec is easy, side delts are easy rear delts too (can lean your opposite arm against a wall to reach your rear delt). Look up on google “self IM injecting [INJECTION SITE]” and usually there is a nursing guide image, like “IM injection deltoid” a million youtube videos or google images pop up. Everything you are confused about is available with one google search away honestly.
Did you guys ever see elevated liver panels due to your training? Is this true that this happens or if they are elevated I should always be concerned? Doing blood work soon and heard this can happen
>>77386088I have never and will never check.
>>77386088I think so but also depends on how fast you're recovering. If you're in a deficit I think the effects compound worse. I've been skipping the gym a bunch due to inflammation and got my best liver results while also having started accutane.It could also fuck with kidneys too.
>>77384078IDK bout that, but the guy who owns Janoshik,"Peter Magic" (what a fucking name) was front and center resting on his supercar. Amazeballs optics there.
>>77386088Yes. I took DihydroBerberine and all of the sudden my AST and ALT dropped in half. This was after going to failure and drop setting. TUDCA is great for cleanup duty, but if you drink AT ALL, you can't take it as if you take up to two days befor drinking, the alcohol penetrates your liver MORE.
>>77386088I read that it can happen if you train too close to when you do bloodwork. Maybe take the day before you go off
>>77386261Oh is that why my hangover was god awful after drinking a few drinks compared to before frauding and TUDCA maxxing when heavily drinking I barely got hangovers?
Thinking about getting Primo from China (Amy QYC). Should I or is China only good for peptides now?
>>77386257oh! i did not know that. i thought it was just the weird dude doing shit by himself. yeah... nice
>>77386934I'm confused about this China seller's prices. This is only 1g of Primo for $480??? That's 4x as expensive as eroids domestic wtf
>>77387604do your eroids domestic actually have primo? it's been pretty hit and miss. but, yeah, even the last stock i saw was $100 for 10ml 100mg/ml
i only got like 2 vials of EQ left i think i might buy tren and finish this cycle as an absolute unit going fucking crazy
>>77388187Tren is overhypedTHERE I SAID IT
>>77388211it is i specifically wanna do tren to be real maniac for a month and either get fired from my job or get a promotion
>>77388286so you're one of these people who thinks tren does all these meme things
>>77388315nono i've done tren before and definitely made me go a little maniac i think it has to do that i'm already predisposed to it so anything lethargic to some extent makes me fucking insane, same thing with stimulants even clen makes me irritable
>Do a first cycle 250mg test-e + 30mg of tbol>Go from 77kg to 85kg>Fucking hell this stuff is nuts, let's see how much I lose when it ends, it's all probably water.>Cycle ends, basically lose nothing weight or strength wise.>Fug, so it wasn't water weight. Focus on bringing weight down and get it to 82kg before the next cycle.>Started a second similar cycle week and a half ago, but with 250mg of Sustanon instead of test-e. >Weight already hitting +85kgThis stuff makes me grow like crazy and I'm not even eating a ton of food. I basically just doubled my protein intake and that's about it.It's nice getting these rapid gains in the gym and growing muscle, but I really need to control this weight gain aspect.Good thing the gains seem to be muscle for the most part and I'm not just packing on fat.
>>77388286>>77388318I am diagnosed schizophrenic and autistic (ASD1) and I have only done up to 250mg/wk of Tren E and it really only made me more irritable, but that could have been the stack I was running. Only happened when stopping Tren too after 14 weeks, so I am unsure about the predisposed part. BUT everyone is different so...
>>77388318so you're mentally ill.congrats I guess
>>77387604>>77388096I was wrong, it's $10g for $480 from China. Eroids USA vendor has it for $135 a gram.
>>77388329any sides?
>>77388486I'll have some fries or a salad occasionally as a side.
>>77388211Of course it is. Zoomers took the meme to another level... Thank you GH15 (the most pathetic thing in the history of the universe)
>>77388348>literally retard>uses trenMany such cases
>>77387604Isn't like peps, a kit price?Kit = 10 units
>>77388802yet I look better than you, curious
>>77387604>>77388096>>77372247If they legalized gear the way marijuana was and we had roid stores owned by big efficient publicly traded companies how cheap would gear be?
>>77387604>>77388429Why do primo when var exists? Primo only makes sense if you're rich.
>>77388817>mentally ill man trying to make fun of imaginary meOk
>>77388865lol. you don't know how capitalism works, do you? if it were legalized, it would be more expensive than what we're paying now. marijuana from dispenseries is about street price pre-legalization, if not a little more. shit you need to inject will be more expensive, because you'll still need to go to a doctor, and all the middlemen will want their cut along the way
>>77389024actually what am i thinking? my dumb ass forgot clinics exist. lol. clinic prices! we be paying clinic prices, sooo.... $250 for 10ml 200mg/ml test c. so transpose that to everything else... $480 10ml 100mg/ml primo... $800 10ml 100mg/ml tren... just 10x everything
>>77388865The real benefit of this would be the new shit that gets developed. Think of 60s weed vs the stuff there is now. Everything is old shit cooked up in the 50s. Closest we've had is Balco twenty five years ago and look at how good that stuff was
>>77388329What is the point of Tbol? Isnt it just weaker anavar?
>>77388348yeah well i was managing up to 400mg just fine it was when i upped that shit to 600/800 range that i felt like hulk
>>77388486Didn't get any sides whatsoever. In fact I think my body works better and my skin is clearer when I'm on this stuff.After the cycle ended it was just business as usual, results and weight stuck where they got during cycle and that was it.I suspect that my natural test levels are just so utterly fucked, that even a tame cycle gets absorbed by my body incredibly well.>>77389281Not sure, many people report one being better than the other, so it probably just comes down to your genetics and how you respond.For me judging by the weight and strength gains I'm getting with zero sides, this combo works for me extremely well.
25 y.o virgin so I might as well fraud Kinda fat, should I cut first or can I gain muscle while losing weight ?
>>77389799CUT FIRST. You will aromatize more estrogen the fatter you are and nutrient partitioning will make you gain more fat than muscle even on roids if you are a fat slob. CUT. Use reta/tirz if you are unmotivated and need help. Do you already workout? Do you already have a meal plan? You have to be dialed in to maximize steroid usage it isn’t just a magic injection where you turn into a body builder over time you need to actually still eat clean, get protein, eat carbs in a timely manner prior and post workout, know how to efficiently hypertrophy muscle, splits, rest days, 8hr sleep, hydration, have AI on hand, have ancillaries like supplements.GET LEAN. You don’t have to be 8% bodyfat but like 18%-20% is fine.This is why some people fuck up, they are fat and don’t workout already and think frauding will turn them into a gymbro chad over 2 months when all will happen is they will waste a cycle before realizing they did it wrong and either try again after cycling off and losing weight/fat then actually see improvements come QUICK when blasting. GET LEAN THEN BLAST AND EAT CLEAN A LOT WHILE BLASTING.
>>77389799dont fraud for pussy, in the end you will realize you were the pussy all alongalso it’s more attractive to men
>>77389799just start. take your ai. but also keep in mind roids aint magic. they won't change who you are, they just make you more you. if you're a faggot now, you'll be a bigger faggot on roids. your shit habits won't go away just because you decided to push chinese bathtub chemicals into yourself. you won't suddenly become alpha, and the object of women's desires. like other anon said, the only people that will care are other guys. most women just like to see that a dude takes care of himself. if you're fat and want women, do what other anon said, and just take tirz and lose weight. otter mode is far more attractive to the vast majority of women. very few like the meat head look. and speaking of, never roid for pussy. that is the absolute dumbest fucking thing you can do. the only good reason to roid is because you want to get huge. and dont confuse with roiding with trt. if you're legit hypogonadal at 25 (you're not), trt will be a fucking huge improvement for you. if you're 40+, trt will help you feel better. and for fucks sake don't listen to the 400lb enclomiphene faggot. god i can't wait until that dumb fuck fucking dies already jesus
>>77389024no supply will go up and its cheap to make so there will be plenty of supply, prices will be unaffected
If I do fine with deca and tren can I combine them?
>>77389896>otter mode is far more attractive to the vast majority of women. very few like the meat head look. and speaking of, never roid for pussy.This is just not true at all. Maybe it's true if you have an ugly face or you're Sam Sulek size, but generally you will get way more pussy on roids if you were already getting it before
>>77389896If this is true why do Insta girls brag about getting fucked by fitness influencers with tons of muscle ? Seems like you are projecting anon
>>77390055>why do vapid whores brag about being vapid whoresgee anon i wonder
>>77390110Women are biologically more attracted to stronger, taller males with wide jaws. It's really no different to men preferring wide hips and other markers of fertility. It's just not socially acceptable for women to openly prefer these superficial traits. If you haven't experienced this you are dyel or you have an ugly face and hook up with the sour grapes variety of female
>>77369419This guy looks too human. I suspect he's never roided in his life.
If I take 15mg-20mg of dbol a day for 3 months WITHOUT A TEST BASE will I die from liver toxicity and be gay and lose all my gains and be raped by a pack of wild niggers like reddit (they blast and cruise and never cycle off) tells me?
>>77390421No but it's just not worth it. If you're going through the trouble just do a normal blast and add the dbol as a pre workout
>>77390421why do you think you are better or different than everyone else that you wont just do 500mg test per week?Its it because you are afraid of needles or some faggot on tiktok tell you to do this cycle and he is much cooler to watch then reading an old wiki that teaches all the basics?
>>77390429>Not worth itWhy, exactly? Fellas in the 50s up to the 70s were maining dbol. Yes, we all know it's toxic, we all know it can give you bitch tits. Test is a bigger commitment. I don't see what the problem is for guys who have blasted already and have a solid foundation or are cycling and use dbol recreationally to keep an edge on their physique.>If you're going through the trouble just do a normal blast and add the dbol as a pre workoutIt's a heavily aromatizing compound that bloats you to shit, why would you take it for the sake of better lifting performance that you're not going to keep after you stop? At least tbol doesn't bloat you.
>>77390449>Fellas in the 50s up to the 70s were maining dbol.Nobody knew what they were doing back then.Even in the late 90s conventional thought for testosterone was an 8-week pyramid like this100mg week 1200mg week 2300mg week 3400mg week 4 and 5300mg week 6200mg week 7100mg week 8 and there was no such thing as pctBut I'm sure if I made a tiktok video saying this is how you get huge there'd be a million dyel broccoli heads saying its the best cycle ever
>>77390466cont:also up until about 10 years agp you just took whatever roids you could get your hands on from your local guy.There was no buying anything you wanted dirt cheap from the internet and getting it in your mailbox next week.If all you could get was dbol you took dbol. If all you could was veterinary equipoise from Mexico then that's what you took
>>77390449Nevermind. It's a good idea and you should do it
>>77390544yeah probably no point in even replying to these retards with their stupid questionsThey already made up their minds to do whatever apeshit cycle they saw on tiktok.They ask for advice on what to take but just get mad if you dont validate them.
>>77390412What this guy says is true, but face is also very important, like an average size guy who is very handsome will do better with women than a really big guy who is ugly.Just in the same way that a very pretty fat woman is better than a really ugly girl with a good body like pic rel.But yeah, being more muscular is pretty much always better.
Just starting on TRT with 200 mg a week. Should I change anything in my diet or continue to bulk and cut like normal?
>>77390625You should start at 100. 200 isn't really a trt dose imo. inb4 ugly short gear addicts respond, calling me a pussy because they have shit genes and need 250+ trt doses to look half decent when they're off cycle.>75–100 mg/week: Common starting dose.>100–150 mg/week: Often enough for many men to reach normal testosterone levels.>150–200 mg/week: Sometimes prescribed, but less common and more likely to push testosterone into the upper-normal or supraphysiologic range in some individuals. Not a good idea long term.>continue to bulk and cut like normal?yes
>>77390627200 is just the dose my doctor prescribed. They’ll do my labs in a month and see if it needs to be adjusted.
>>77390633Your actual doctor or an online clinic like trt nation?
>>77390625Inject less so they keep you on 200 lmao. Also inject multiple times per week if they got you on 1 or 2 injections. Your diet can be more extreme as long as you get a lot of protein intake. The whole point of steroids is increased muscle protein synthesis. When you cut your body will hold onto muscle way more easily. Your strength will eventually decrease but mostly from glycogen depletion rather than muscle loss. For a bulk same thing, more protein.>>77390627The ranges were determined from men whose testosterone already had like 1% year over year drops. Long term it will be fine, just don't blast in your late 50s onwards.
>>77390627lol lmao tbdesu>>77390641I like that idea so they prescribe more kek
>>77390635Online place based on my bloodwork>>77390641Injecting twice a week right now but only a week in.
>>77390649>>77390635TRT online clinics give literally everyone 200mgs a week. Try 100 or 120 for a few months, see how you look and feel, then do bloodwork.
>>77390653Got it. And would you approach nutrition any differently? Cut and bulk like normal but try to up protein?
>>77390659Not really. 1g of protein per pound of body weight. eat clean train hard etc.
>>77390660Appreciate it
if you had infinite test and anavar on you, how much of each would you decide to take on a bulk?
>>77390665No prob. LLMs like Chat GPT and Claude are good for trt related advice. So are the trt and testosterone subleddits. /fit/ is cancer, only good for memes
>>77390786>anavar>bulkinefficient for a bulk. Great for a cut or recomp
>>77390786its dosent matter because you'll only take 250 test and 5mg anavar like all these other dyel faggots
>>77385875damn. thats freaky. this may indeed be my life soon. see i am retarded, but you guys are frankly more insightful than google.>>77385879thank you, great info>>77385986very helpful.
fuck it, where do you guys get bpc (for the USA niggas)
>>77390850Umbrella labs
>>77390876nigga id rather just get the T peptide frrom them
>>77385875Is it that bad to pin quads ? Everyone acts like it’s a death sentence
Starting my first cycle soon. Just a little dabbling/experimenting.LGD-4033+HCG+HGH and enclomiphene PCT
>>77390935Gey. If you’re doing HGH, why TF aren’t you doing TRT levels of test or 500 test. Also>2026>SARM’sThere do exist Injectable ones now, but I’ve heard they use EO (nasty) or Guiacol as the solvents.HCG is good but only out to 200-250 test a week. But I also see >Enclo+HCG. You trying to get your wife giga-pregnant?If not, the standard>500 test>250-300 EQ or if you’re rich, 200 Primo>4 IU HGHWill do 99% of what you want
>>77390896Then why the fuck you ask for bpc bro
>>77390649More frequent helps prevent swings in test levels and especially with aromatization.>>77390659Literally what I told you earlier, you retain muscle easily on a cut just get a bunch of protein. 1g/lb of weight is a good starting point aim for 1.2>>77390810Gemini also gives solid totally not medical advice.>>77390935Why LGD instead of literally any other effective steroid or SARM? Enclo is good for PCT, you could probably stop your cycle but keep doing HCG then ramp that down as you start taking enclo.
>>77390544>>77390557>no argument Just admit you're parrotting whatever you read on the steroids wiki and r/steroids and do things this way rather than that way because someone said to do so.You literally have no argument as to why taking dbol in the range of 15-20mg for a duration of 3 months is bad besides claiming it's suboptimal.
>>77391062Lgd is a good SARM tho, the only one worth bothering with imo
>>77391271I'm adding in 5mg/day LGD soon as well, on top of my TRT. I added 10mg/day tren but it started making me feel retarded and wrecked my moodCurrently on 600mg/ week TRT with 6IU HGH/day
>>77391296600mg trt...Yeah 5mg is a solid dose. It sucks that every source of LGD doses it at 10mg. Way too much imo, I could notice the effect well enough at 3mg.It being a SARM with a high binding affinity, keep in mind your test might act a little different
>>77390903i mean for me it's just fine but for most people is a a whole deal
>>77391269yeah you're right. Go for it. You have fun.Be sure to post before and after pics
>>77391269nta but you will get fat and not actual good looks tried it before, actually did dbol and sarms before jumping in actual roids and it went a lot smoother than i thought, didn't even need AI by running 600mg test
>>77392182that without the mental side of it that you get all emotional cause no test base
I'm thinking of hopping on test (150mg a week and 250mg cycle at some point), but I'm afraid that my balls will shrink too much. They're already kind of small or average at best, and I'm afraid they'll shrivel up into nothing or even worse, go into my body. Just thinking about it makes my balls hurt, it's so disgusting. I don't know why I'm so afraid of having tiny balls. I know HCG is supposed to help with this, but that's another $30 - 50 a month where I live, and it doesn't work for everyone, and it can further raise e2, which means I'd potentially need an AI or a higher dose of it which I'd like to avoid. Should I just hop on test and see how my balls react without HCG?
>>77392299250mg isn't a cycle it is a cruise dose, 500mg minimumHCG works for everyone as far as I know but yes it will increase your e2 a little bit, you will need to have an AI on hand regardless if you take HCG or not and you need to take bloodwork after you start the cycle to determine if you need to use AI or not (or just see if your nips get sensitive without AI if you cant afford bloodwork).If 30$ extra is too much for you I'm not sure you should be doing steroids at all though...
>>77392354>250mg isn't a cycle it is a cruise dose,retard
>>77391271Is it? From what I can find it's suppressive like all other SARMs. You can boost test by taking enclo and oral TRT at the same time without suppression. Otherwise just do a real cycle with hcg. But I'll admit I'm not super familiar to LGD-4033 so I'd be happy to be proven otherwise.
Supposed to get a Tdap vaccine for work. Don’t really want to. What happens if I chase it with injectable glutathione?
>>77392354I don't want to be a roid monkey. I know 250mg isn't a real cycle, but I don't want to fuck up my cholesterol and turn my blood into syrup. I'll get bloodwork done first, but I already know I'm low test.I want to get in decent shape and have a believable natty-like build. I don't want my family and friends to think I'm juicing, and I don't want to fuck my shit up. You're right, $30 a month isn't much and I'll just get HCG. I don't want to have tranny balls.
>>77392519>I already know I'm low test.and what will you blame your shitty life on when you learn your test is perfectly normal?
>>77392470I ran LGD4033 with oral estradiol, hcg and later again with ~80mg test cyp. I ran only 3mg to 5mg and I was improving my lifts week after week. I could notice the effect in the first week. Obviously it's trash if you run it by itself, but imo it deserves a place with oral steroids. I tried 10mg but that was too much for me. I really dont understand these people who say SARMs are weak and useless, tho you definitely need steroids to get the most out of them.
>>77392519I love denying roid accusations from family and coworkers. No I just changed to a vegan diet and cut alcohol :) that is how I gained 20lbs of lean mass and am vascular as fuck after 4 months. I then tell my friends who gym that I am blasting.
>>77392299My balls shrank like 15% but the scrotum definitely is no longer saggy and when I coom they tend to hug my taint more often than before (during winter is normal to stay warm but when I am sweating my ass off in summer I go piss and they still tend to hide inside me)
>>77392630Are sarms only worth it on trt doses?
>>77392630Wait why were you taking estradiol? I don't doubt that a SARM would help, I just don't understand why if you're going to shut yourself down you wouldn't use something more conventional and blast test as well.
>>77392689I am trans.
varpill me on anavar. How many cycles do you frauds do a year? dose? duration?
>>77392759I am on week 8 of a 50mg/day cycle, ran 25mg a few times for 6wks (like 2 cycles) winding down I can see why people say not to run it too long. Not sure if my organs are dying but I am probably going straight into an Adrol cycle afterwards no break.
odd question, but I have a testerone test tomorrow, is there any short term stuff I can do to lower test?
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>>77392814yes
>>77392846Tell Me
>>77393029dont sleep at all
>>77392689I was like 19 and I wanted to do an oral only cycle and all these youtubers were saying that all the negative mental side effects were caused by the lack of estradiol rather than the lack of testosterone (which is converted into estradiol). I would say they are correct in that regard, but I wouldn't recommend it necessarily.>>77392686So SARMs usually have very strong binding affinity for the androgen receptor and it's possible that adding a SARM with a high dose of testosterone will have you sit around with a ton of free testosterone that can convert into estradiol or DHT. That's theoretical tho, I haven't tried high testosterone doses in combination with SARMs.
>>77393169Well yes I've gotten high and low E2 sides on enclomiphene both sucked. It went away quick dropping the dose temporarily though so w/e. High was insomnia low was constant sadness btw. Hard to say which one was worse, but they were close.
alright fags I am now offically huge. At this point I am starting my cruise. Cut my test down 150 mg/week reddit dosage. I am now interested in maximizing my hormones around feeling good. Do we have any way of maxing out allopregnanolone or whatever to make sure you feel as good and low anxiety as possible? I am laying off the DHT stuff which usually is what makes me feel the most good. I want to feel like that without the hair loss and apocalyptic lipids.
>>77392689not him but I am starting to think everyone should take estradiol on cycle and pair it with huge AI dosages. Because its fucking impossible to correctly dose AI long term. The shit is just too strong for men. We are talking about needing one sixteenth of a pill to get you dialed in just right in many cases. Even most seasoned steroid users will just have to go by how they feel. "oh shit I am more emotional than I should be, better take some AI", "damn I just felt a minor hot flash looks like I need lay off the AI". Its no way to live.
