I like steroids

>>77392815
You're a vain faggot if you take any type of PED

>>77392850
I am vain yes but faggot no.

>>77392850
Trvke
There's 0 reason to take PEDs if you aren't making a fuck ton of money off it like pro athletes
It's pure vanity and faggotry

>>77392856
I look and feel much better and in turn have a more enjoyable life. I take low doses (pussy 240 test cycles with 25 var and 120 trt rest of the year) so I'll still live a long time and experience 0 sides. Plus it's relatively cheap.

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>>77391047
>Umbrella labs
what the fuck bro i thought you were memeing i didnt know that shit was real

>>77392850
I get more results with the same effort, in any hobby that's a obvious choice

>>77392893
BUT DUDE LIFE IS AN OLYMPIC SPORT YOU WILL BE DRUG TESTED AND BANNED FROM LIFE

>>77392815
how to get this physique
and no i won't take drugs so don't say that

>>77392868
>0 sides
Lmao

>>77392850
Yeah but I’m nearing 40 and the temptation of going full roid tranny is getting at bros. Between my natural T levels plummeting, my recovery rate plummeting, and my dick dying…

>>77393089
you aint using your dick anyways unc

How do I reduce face bloat on test + deca? Should I add something dry like Masteron?

Naps down, wat nou?

>>77393105
blood work

if e2 is high ai
if prolactin is high caber

drink more water
check your BP
lower dose

adjust diet carbs salt intake

so many different possible causes

>Doctor requested my yearly bloodwork
>guess I have to quit Tren for 2 weeks
It’s so over I am cooked

Tell me your good tren e stories
I'm about to bite the bullet and give it a run but I keep reading horror stories and I don't want shitty placebo effects from that

>>77393089
How hard did you try at actually putting on mass? My T is way up from before, lifting sessions even yield more results.

Got back on TRT, might add primo later

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>>77392856
well you could say that about literally anything. There 0 objective reason for anything. We all create our own subjective meaning, and some people want to be big as fuck

do you ever stop looking forward to pinning? It feels like the highlight of my day sometimes.

>>77393397
Oof, it must suck to be you I guess
What a miserable existence

>>77393342
It is seriously overhyped compound, the sides are more annoying than the placebo “gains” you get from a semi-anabolic DHT heavy compound mainly for its CNS properties. Just add 200mg more Test a week and some Anavar…

Sometimes after pinning I have feral dreams.

I had a dream I was at my old giant house I lived in as a teen and two small tigers got in and I was able to fight them off and get upstairs using the iron body technique. I was upstairs and managed to lock them in the basement and my mom and sister and her friends were there and not taking it seriously and kept opening the door and I kept closing it. Eventually a giant massive tiger with stripes and a spike on it's head got in through the garage and I instinctively knew what it wanted, it was hunting the other orange smaller tigers. I opened the door and it sprinted right past me down stairs and I could hear tigers screaming and fighting.

Something in me became feral and I knew I had to back the big tiger up or kill it so I ran outside and my dad was in his truck where he just got home from work and told him about the tigers and asked where his biggest chainsaw was, he was the only one to take it seriously amd busted out a massive chainsaw spear. I was going inside to massacre some tigers and had my iron body on and suddenly some teen girls showed up and I looked down and my pants were off and I had a boner, and I just told them it's dangerous here I'm hunting tigers while holding a chainsaw spear and pulled my pants up. Also my little Asian ex girlfriend showed up and called my name, but her boobs were bigger and she had on work out gear and thicker muscular thighs, and she said if I'm going she's going and we'd have victory sex once I slaughtered those tigers. It was the manliest dream ever, a bunch of young pussy and my ex but even hotter and my father who passed down his chainsaw spear all watching as I made my way down the staircase into my old basement of my man cave to slaughter some tigers with a chainsaw spear while using the iron body technique. I was so pumped and ready.

Then my asshole neighbor honked his horn just now at fucking 6am and woke me up and now I'll never get to experience the ending.

>>77393397
>do you ever stop looking forward to pinning?
only when there's not much gear in the vial left

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Another tranny thread. Stay natty brahs.

>>77392868
>0 sides
You think the train isn’t coming coasting on the railroad.

>>77393342
Just keep your e2 under control and you won't experience any mental sides.

On a blast right now and otherwise was doing fine. 3IUs HGH, 200mg NPP, 400mg Mast, 400mg Test C per week.
Made the mistake of eating a spaghetti dinner my wife made.
Previously had decent blood pressure and within an hour I became king bloat lord. Blood pressure was into the 150s/80s.
I normally take telmisartan as management to keep it in the 120s/130s/ 80s, but it just wasn't doing enough so I took HCTZ 25mg which flushed all of the water out.
Problem is, this drug makes flushes all of my electrolytes out too well and gives me crazy cramps the next day.
I ate some extra potassium and magnesium supplements alongside some food rich in that. Sadly, I was only able to do 20 minutes of my 40 minute run before my legs started cramping.
Does anyone else experience this? I avoid diuretics and typically eat clean. The meal I ate was with protein pasta(whole wheat, chick pea, etc), homemade meat sauce, and some sausages. My wife doesn't use excess salt either.
Regardless, I will not be eating it again.
> TLDR is there a way to manage HCTZ cramps or should I just get a different diuretic?

has anyone gotten insomnia and appetite suppression from adrol?

I feel fine and have no trouble eating once I do, but if I don't force myself to eat I can go all day and just not think about it. I'll hear my stomach growl but no actual hunger or trigger to go eat. likewise, I can tell I'm a little tired behind the eyes but I just don't get sleepy enough to fall asleep. I'm getting maybe 5 hours on a good night.

I don't hate it since I'm cutting but I don't remember adrol doing me like this in the past.

>>77393089
i'll be 40 in a few months. just fuckin do it. so much better.... we don't need more kids, and we can swap to a gel when we're old. might as well hulk out so we can say we did it. plus the mires are a nice ego boost

>>77393316
only thing that'll pop up is cholesterol (news flash, every one of us amerilards has shit lipids), e2 will be high (just say you got trashed the night before), ast will be high (say you got two hours in the gym before you got trashed), and hct probably high (oh damn i didn't drink any water the morning of my blood test after getting trashed). problem solved

>>77393316
>>77394046
>doing all of that because you're a steroid using FAGGOT
What is the doctor going to do? Arrest you? Be fucking for real.

>>77394046
>>77394069
My main concern is with this being a basic check (not hormones) her seeing my levels being high and then ordering a full panel and seeing I am off the charts which would just have her questioning me and writing it down in my patient notes. I just want her to keep prescribing me my other meds… “Oh well let’s have you do ANOTHER check in a month” no bitch just keep filling my scripts and I’ll see you next year.

>>77393592
What is your solution? Let the body dysmorphia win and always feel like shit with your own body?
No you can't ever look impressive natty don't kid yourself

>>77394155
One of my friend is on gear and consequences are noticeable. I don’t judge his use and I don’t recommend it. Sad when users behave like women who lie about their body count.

>>77394155
you let the body dysmorphia win if you take steroids, lul.

>>77394083
don't ask don't tell, my dude. if they're not looking at hormones, they won't arbitrarily ask to. i'm sure one look at you and they'll immediately suspect you're roiding. don't give them any more information that would give them reason to investigate. they're busy, and don't want to deal with our nonsense. i'm with you on the paranoid side... i pay the clinic tax to have a test scrip juuuuust in case, but i'm old too, so i might have a stroke or something i cant plan a blast around

Why do nattycels shit up these threads?

>>77394285
they don't go to the gym, so they have lots of free time

>>77392815
So where can I order them? And please don't give me some faggot ass "no source talk" bullshit. The amount of illegal shit that goes on on this site, ain't no one give a fuck about you sharing your chink bathtub chem suppliers online portal. This is one reason why I like the SARMs guys better. Least they're not pussies and their shit is just as illegal as yours.

>>77394220
You know some of us are just poor bastards that were born into terminally fat families and had to learn fitness the hard way and we want to reach our peak forms that we didn't get to when we were young.

>>77394292
you can literally google and get the two main open places to look at threads of vendors with testing, bloods and user reviews
(though I will say you're better off not reading the majority of retarded userbases takes on the one that rhymes with mexican currency, and the one that rhymes with horse walk is dying, you'll still find legitimate sources on each)

also fuck you tranny jannys for an IP range block I haven't done shit

>>77394292
Wrong, SARMS aren't controlled substances

>>77394292
eroids/meso o algo for quick lookups not best prices but ye
other places for china/indian bulk cheaper options but that’s not what you are looking for I bet.
>>77394321
fuck JANNIES they rangeban other people on my towers for dunb shit and I pay the price cant shitpost at work

>>77394355
Much deserved dubs for literally the first mother fucker on this site too ever just be straight with me. Thank you.

>>77394292
It took me two minutes to find a reliable source when I started. Literally google Reddit best UGL 2025 for up to date recommendations. Notice the names that keep popping up in various threads. Find their site address (should be just as easy).

>>77393518
I haven’t had dreams in years and on a special occasion I don’t just blink and wake up to the sun shining in my face it’s usually because I was thinking about an ex gf prior to falling asleep. I don’t envy people getting dreams I like not having dreams (both sleeping and with life)

>>77393316
I have VA Healthcare and I asked my doctor to test my levels and they called to let me know I needed to immediately stop any testosterone because its so high and they know its not natural. Im at 1200ng/test. Bitch thats a good level and im staying there.

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>>77394722
>letting a (((doctor))) tell you anything

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I'm pretty sure the people posting shit like "250 is a cruise dose" and "350 is too low for a blast" are nattycels and DYELs trying to hurt us


vidrel: my gf

>>77394814
250 is a cruise if you're an IFBB pro

>>77394814
I "blast" 500 and "cruise" 200...

>>77392815
Looking at SERMs.

Clomid/clomiphene is a mix of two things with basically contradictory effects? enclomiphene is the purified form of the one that's actually useful for boosting men's endogenous T.

One source says clomid's half-life is measured in days. But that's because of the Z isomer, zuclomiphene, not the useful E isomer, enclomiphene. According to DOI 10.1016/s0015-0282(16)49574-9

>Although CC tablets contain approximately 62% of the E isomer and approximately 38% of the Z isomer, the observed plasma concentrations of the Z isomer in our subjects were much higher than those of the E isomer (Fig. 2). Part of the difference may be explained by the fact that the E isomer is eliminated much more rapidly than the Z isomer, resulting in a smaller area under the curve for the E isomer.

So enclo has a fairly short half life, damn. And scholarship seems a little sparse.

>>77396001
Why? Unless you’re PCT’ing or trying to get your wife pregnant, they’re useless for bodybuilding as they tamp down IGF-1

>>77394814
looks annoying, so glad I don't simp over random hoes on the internet.

My estradiol is 100 pg/ml. What does this mean?

>>77394961
wut? 250 is far too low for dudes that big

>>77396001
god damnit not this dumbass shit again. just take fucking test jesus christ

>>77396127
you're a high aromatizer, and you should split your test dose. so if you're 150mg/week try 50mg 3x a week instead of 75mg twice a week. some people pin daily even

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>>77391003
>You trying to get your wife giga-pregnant?

>>77396233
i pin three times a week, every day would make a difference?

I'm about to start my first PED cycle. I'll be using LGD 4033 (SARM) because I don't like needles, syrup for blood and bitch tits from e2. I also hear PCT is easier on SARMs.

>b-but liver and research
I'm a pussy because I don't like needles, and you're a pussy because for crying about temporary liver stress.

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>Mfw my arm gets fucked up for two days every time I inject

I hate that part.
Otherwise it's all good.

>>77392856
So how do you become a pro athlete or make money from your physique without roiding for years to even get a shot at it?

>>77393813
all roids can cause bad sleep and anadrol is know for appetite suppression but that supposedly due to liver toxicity.
I'm not sure I believe that.
Andadrol is great on a cut tho. Its probably the safest oral. I use ozempic on cuts and that tanks my blood pressure and 50mg anadrol prevents that.

>>77394211
you dont have friends and never noticed anything faggot

>>77396446
isn’t Adrol “better” for bulking? i have a bunch i was gonna do 50mg a day in 2 weeks for a cycle

>>77394814
>500mg test will hurt me
holy shit what a faggot. And this is why you will never be huge and always be the subject of "roiding for this" threads
If you're too ascared to take roids why are taking roids?

>>77396224
that's what reddit fags say.
They lose their minds if you cut or cruise on more than 150 test.

>>77396127
It means absolutely nothing unless you have high E2 symptoms

>>77396349
unless you're having some problem why change it?

>>77396451
steroids are steroids.
There is no such thing as "bulking steroids" or "cutting steriods" it just depends how you use them

>>77396462
Water retention be damned

>>77396465
you dont retain much water in deficit even with wet compounds.
And water retention typically means high E2 which is easily mitigated.
And why are you worried about temporary cosmetic water retention on a cut when the goal is to lose as much fat while sparing as much muscle?
Its the end result that matters unless you prepping for a photoshot or contest.
And you're not because you're a dyel afraid of needles.

>>77396469
You are mixing up anons, friend. I am not cutting the 50mg Anadrol will be with 500mg test.

>>77396457
Like what kind of symptoms? I was told as long you get morning wood your e2 is probably fine.

>>77396484
>Like what kind of symptoms?
jfc do you people not know anything?
are you incapable of google?
high and low e2 symptoms should be something anybody touching roids should know about.
useless fucking zoomers

>>77396494
Why even have a thread if you aren't going to help me?

>>77396495
>spoon feed me the most basic shit I can otherwise get in 3 seconds by asking google

>>77396502
Just help me

>>77396507
https://www.google.com/

Anyone replaced AI with DIM?

>>77396509
you're trolling

>>77396514
I was replaced by AI

>>77396495
>everything exists just for helping me
well now I know he's justified in calling you a zoomer

I'm getting winded on my lifts think my bps fuarkken high any specific recommendations before I go down like zyzz brehs

>>77396484
it's literally different for everyone. you really need to look it up, and weigh the risks for yourself. maybe slightly high or low does nothing. maybe you grow fat tits and start leaking milk. maybe 20x top range e2 makes you oily. maybe you break out in cystic acne that permanently scars you. maybe too low and you kill yourself. maybe too high and you kill yourself. maybe you beat your boyfriend. maybe you only beat your meat. even if anon did you give a straight answer, you'll likely never get the same answer twice. same goes for all roids. some dudes take 100mg test and get 1500tt. some don't get that at 500mg. some people are fuckin idiots on 200mg tren. i was kinda a dick at a gram. everyone responds differently

>>77396587
coke and saunas

>>77396587
Nattokinase/cialis/water/L-theanine (maybe)
I only get winded pushing heavy squats because I neglect them too much so when I do go hard I take a beating

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>>77396452
I never said that. Many of us respond really well to 250-400mg cycles and get bombarded with negative comments from ugly dysgenic manlets who need higher doses just for meh results. If you have dogshit genes that's fine, but don't encourage newbies to take more than they need to because you're not a hyper responder.

>>77396592
we're all gonna make it breh
>>77396595
thanks senpai. at the very least I'll have a good bat if it doesn't work as expected

>>77392815
How lazy and misled you must be to think that juicing is preferable to eating bigger meals more frequently. The jews want you to do steroids, they make you gay. Any time someone makes them look good it is a literal sheckelgruber who has never:
>lifted in their life
>not been given everything they have
Just a little psa for all the gym goys who don't realize that once the steroids seep into your brain you'll be fully naked in the middle of a dining table being displayed like some kind of buttered up rump roast to a bunch of kikes playing whack a mole with the turds coming out of your ass because you are gay off the steroids and tipsy off of wine unable to sustain yourself now by doing anything but gay sex parties for homos and jews.
>you aren't lean enough
Jewish homisexuals can't get enough of emasculated twinks all oily and naked.
>do legs twice a week or more
They love them some ass too. Don't fall for it or else this could be you. I'd know, I was getting fisted by rich elites after they would play a game of lassoing me wrestling me onto the table. The first one to cum in my ass was the head minister of the next outing.

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>>77396611
They would make me crawl around naked and make pig noises as I tried to run away in the dining hall knocking everything over and stuff.
>cmere boy lemme get some of that
>git eem git eem
I remember it like it was yesterday, my ass used to be this big and now it's blown out.

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>>77396611
I’m just…I’m just gonna do steroids lol

>>77396611
i ain't readin all that
im happy for u tho
or sorry that happened

>>77396611
>mfw do steroids and haven't been forced into erotic gay sex parties yet
am I even living bros

>>77396616
It's not a bad gig, but you are probably gonna start out getting pounded until you're one of the hot shots who tries to win. It's a festivity held during the equinoxes by rich people and more of a formality if you ask me, but catching the hog and winning the game is how you become the main guy like the great gatsby and you get to fuck whoever you want. They all had these aprons on and the main guy or whoever had a pyramid mask and no shirt on and assless chaps.

>>77396620
Uh oh looks like another oil boy breached containment. Cmon boys lets git em.

>>77396590
my nipple is itchy

>>77396611
uggo fatty detected

>>77396634
Oil boy oil boy

>back on tren again
>day after first pin
>3 hours less sleep than average
>upset tummy
we are so back

I bought tren e because my ugl was out of a
is the long ester really as bad as people make it out to be

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How much are you nigs paying for test c?

>>77396598
Did roids make the left guy's dick smaller or was it already tiny?

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>>77396678
>TEST C 250 - 5 PCS

If I only use non-aromatizable stuff, can I get away with just using enclomiphene for PCT?

Is HGH really worth it?

>>77396797
Depends on your goals

>>77396797
>>77396797
it made me really sleepy, gave me horrible water retention, numbness/occasional loss of grip in hands carpal tunnel-ish, hypo
can't even tell you if it actually made a difference for anything positive
if I'm gonna get sides that bad I'd have liked to see something significant for it

>>77396680
roids make your dick slightly bigger

What's the purpose of HGH?

>>77396665
Not really, it's more if your body doesn't like it compared to say Ace or Prop the sides won't go away as fast as shorter esters.
>>77396680
He is indian, what do you think?
>>77396909
It grows everything that can be grown, muscle and cancer tissues.

What can I expect running a 1 month cycle of Oxandrolone 50mg parallel with a 2 month cycle of Enclomiphene 25mg? I want to start with the safest(weakest) non-aromatizable one I can, and I figured if I run enclo during, it'll blunt the suppression and at least a month after to hopefully bring it back up.

>>77396350
At first the idea of poking myself with needles scared me too, but insulin needles are so tiny and I inject sub-q into my belly so it's pretty much painless

>>77396929
test base or suffer man
you're gonna crash your e2 and want to kill yourself best outcome with your current plan

scared of needles? don't take steroids
simple as

you're playing fucky paddle with your sensitive ass endocrinological system, if you can't even commit to a prick you don't have what it takes to make that risk

>>77396949
How do you figure that when Oxandrolone has much weaker suppression than a test base would and taking a test base would mean you have to use an aromatase inhibitor to boot.

>>77396956
50mg of var for a month can absolutely suppress you/shut you down, and it's specifically because it won't aromatize into estrogen that your e2 will crash if you don't have enough base test to convert

you can't underestimate the importance of estrogen in the body or ignore how the male body produces it

if you run a natty range of test (or for some people even higher) you may not even need AI. however, you should always have it available - much better safe than sorry

>>77396631
it's over. take two bullets orally, and don't wake up in the morning

>>77392815
The fuck is this pipsqueek?

>>77396956
lol. do it

I'm too horny I goon 2-3 times a day but because of this my loads are pathetic and barely anything comes out but I can't stop for a few days to recharge my tank I'm too horny for that, what do

>>77397055
tren

>>77397055
Coom stack (pygeum, lecithin, zinc) I highly reccomend cutting to 1 a day at most, depending on your fraud stack your cock will start to get painful ejactulations/erections. There is such a thing as being too hard and I have experienced it and it is fun when the girl thinks she makes you so hard it hurts you but then will just toy with you thinking its funny but it is very very painful. Also do NOT take benadryl or trazadone because the morning wood will feel like your cock is splitting in two down the middle like a banana.
Cutting back on jerking off will bring out that energy in the gym or your drive to find a mate (male/female) also don't add more tren.

Wish I could just go into a pharmacy and buy shit. TRT clinic only has a couple of things and is goddamn expensive, gym bros are elusive as bigfoot and eroids is sketchy. Maybe I should move to Mexico or India and have constant diarrhea and endless roids. I'd probably be fucking sliced

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>>77396001
Z isomer has a super long half life IIRC it's like nearly a month and is a weak estrogen receptor agonist. So it basically builds up to be a constant estrogen signal increasing your baseline. So yes it is kinda contradictory but the isomers might not affect all the receptors the same.

>>77396034
My z score on it is like -0.1 it's not a huge effect. 153 ng/ml. You absolutely will grow muscle on it. It's just that blasting test is far more time efficient.

>>77396484
Here's the cheat sheet for you anon

>>77397243
You are retarded and will die a natty DYEL

>>77397255
I'm not natty

>>77397256
You look it I can tell.

Maybe I drop tren for NPP or just do the tried and true Test+EQ stack with a sprinkle of Anadrol 25mg/day…

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