>>77393502
I am, but you need to balance and tweak everything from sleep, rest, diet and training to make it managable, and paradoxically, you also need to be even more active when you're tired to build greater capacity but without adding systemic fatigue.

>>77393502
> comfy office job
Well there’s your problem, you sit on your ass doing nothing all day.

I only get like 4 hours of sleep per night so I wake up with headaches that last until 11 am and my energy evaporates when the coffee wears off at 2 pm. So I have a good 3 hours of feeling good and energetic.

I don’t know why people pretend like it’s not normal to crash by 5 pm. If you got in a time machine and went back even a few centuries you’d find pretty much everyone everywhere was more or less done with the most physical part of their day by 3 pm, which is also when they had supper, or the biggest meal of the day. The only people who did vigorous work later into the afternoon and evening were people who had no choice, and only when they had no choice. The normal human wake-work-rest-sleep cycle aligns with the solar cycle and it peaks your energy about mid-late morning and then tapers off as the sun reaches its peak.

>>77393502
I used to be completely beat by the end of the work day. After I started running regularly, and running longer distances, my energy capacity went way up. Before I would be way too tired to go out on the weekend. Now I can go out until 2am and be up at 6am for a run the next day (not recommended, but that would’ve been impossible for me before).

So try doing more cardio.

>>77393502
A lot of people don't practice proper fatigue management.

>>77393604
This is not entirely true. Humans would be active at different time of the day. And the night as well. We did not sleep in 9 hour increments.

Also humans usually avoided the sun when it was at its peak due to extreme heat.

>>77393502
I feel it's pretty normal to be somewhat beat given the constant pressure wagies with well structured lives (like a lot of /fit/izens) are under.
Working full time for years really snatches a good chunk of your energy, youthful passion and time. You spend a shitload of time on commuting, getting groceries, doing chores, preparing yourself for work. You stress yourself further by pursuing quite demanding physical goals (like building a serious amount of muscle mass or non-trivial cardio). You do other exhausting stuff solely to appear competitive and avoid feeling like you missing out. In the end you get regularly shat on no matter what because even if you are not psyopd by SM, almost everyone around you is.
Not to mention people with kids or taking care of their elderly and so on.
Intense mental work can wear you off much worse than physical labor, so it's not like white collars should be overflowing with energy.

Checked and black pilled. Fuck you OP and everyone ITT for reminding me about how fucked this world is.

>>77393502
For me this was mostly an issue of not eating enough, once I run out of fuel I feel like absolute shit (but don't really feel any hunger, oddly).
I started having lunch later and with a lot more carbs, and this got much better (make sure to track your weight so you don't get fat)

Another thing that helps is directly going from work to the activity you have planned without visiting home first.
And doing more cardio too, obviously.

You think you’re tired? Try having a newborn.

>>77394559
If you aint getting those jerking motions in your body where you feel like youre falling through the floor for a second you are not truly sleep deprived

>>77394559
Only one newborn? Pathetic.

>>77393604
Peasants had a better personal life in the middle ages than anyone middle class or lower today.

>>77393502
you have sleep apnea

>>77394675
Where? When? What was the average lifespan?

>>77393502
eat and sleep more

>wake up 08:20
tired on verge of being groggy
>arrive at work
energy levels OK
>lunch
tiredness kicks in
>leave for gym at 17:30
energy returns around the time i have changed into gym clothes
>get home at 19:00
tired but comfy tired
>bed at around 00:30

this is my day. going to try an app for sleep apnea. i have woken with dry mouth sometimes

>>77393502
Yeah that’s life with small kids basically but once they are big they don’t want to play with you anymore so it’s best to enjoy these years even though it sometimes sucks snd you’re tired and whatever. In a little while the moment is gone and you’re all alone in some fucking nursing home getting beaten by some nigger nurse.

>>77394675
You have no idea what you’re talking about. They paid rent by working for whoever owned the land so they might have to work 3 hours a day on the landlords fields, come home and start working on their own field and all the work happens at the same time so when you need to harvest you’re working constantly around the clock just to make ends meet.