Asking for genuine advice. I've been put on multiple antipsychotics over the years which has caused my weight to balloon. I've finally got them to put me on a med that doesn't affect my weight and I've started going to the gym. Over the last three weeks I've been hitting the gym twice a week, I'm building up to going more, I'm hoping to get three sessions in this week. I'm giving myself a year to totally overhaul my life. What advice would you give me?
>>77394516>Caused my weight to balloonAre they packed in a brick of lard or are you blaming them for you being a lazy nigger
>>77394524No, they cut off the hormone that tells you when you're full. I used to be super in shape before the meds, I would work out 5-6 times a week, was really fit, but then the meds made me super tired and fatigued all the time. On one med they had me on I was sleeping up to 20 hours a day. I know I've gained the weight, but these meds are horrible, they were destroying my sleep and eating. It's taken a long time for me to get them to put me on one that doesn't have these effects, and I'm already levelling out with my eating and sleeping. I'm not constantly hungry anymore, so managing my weight should be a lot easier. This has been a real horrible period of disruption for me, I want to do ehatever it takes to get my body back now that I'm not starving all the time. And I scoffed at weight gain caused by meds before this, I do understand I've been eating way more than I should, but it's horrible being starving all of the time.
>>77394516What meds did they have you on?I’ve been on venlafaxine, mirtazipine, buspirone, trazadone, Zoloft and Wellbutrin.And i never got above 20%bf and never stopped working out.Sounds like a skill issue, also now I don’t take any drugs
If I was ever put on a med with a side effect like that I'd just really focus on counting calories and having portions predefined before eating. Actually I already do this without being on any satiation suppressing meds. Why don't normal people do this when put on these kinds of meds? It's really not hard, if anything it simplifies everything, I don't even have to think about food
Diet is more important than anything else and should be your primary focus all the time. If you dont feel like lifting some days just still go to the gym and just do some curls and go home. That way you keep the habit firmly in your brain but you dont torture yourself and get burnout.
>>77394655that is baby shit compared to antipsychotics anon
>>77394655So with aripiprazole I actually dropped an insane amount of wright really fast, so to counteract that they put me on a side effect manager and that just made me a total glutton who didn't give a shit. It was like I became an entirely different person, I had no control. Then after that they put me on olanzapine and I couldn't tell when I was full anymore, portion sizes crept up, I was starving 24/7 and on top of that I had no energy or drive at all to do anything, all I could really do was sleep. When they had me on carbamazepine at the same time I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day and couldn't stay awake. I weaned off olanzapine a couple of weeks back, got put on lurasidone and it's changed everything. I have normal hunger cues again, it's stimulating for me, there's no brain fog. I'm just settling in, but this one seems like I really will be able to manage my weight. I don't feel the need to just sleep and eat and not care about what happens to me anymore. I never thought this could happen to me, I was in great shape before all of this, counted calories every day, worked out 5-6 times a week, I was crazy strong, flexible, my balance was amazing, and my cardio was great. Four years of the wrong antipsychotics threw everything off, I didn't want any of this to happen, I truly believed I wouldn't fall into the wright gain trap because I was so good at managing my weight, but those meds changed me, they just turned me into a fat, brain dead sloth. It's taken years of petitioning to get onto something weight neutral, nobody would listen to me until I changed GP and then he demanded they change my meds straight away, he signed me up for a gym programme and got me on better meds. I know I ate the food, I know I stopped moving, but you don't know what these drugs do to you.
>>77394670That's what I thought too, but you don't know what it is to wake up starving and go to bed starving, no matter how much you've eaten. I had great habits, I did not think this would happen to me, but those meds changed me, I didn't care how I looked, my whole life had collapsed, I was forced onto meds with myriad terrible side effects, you can't imagine how bad these drugs are. I want to come off them, but I literally can't, it's a fucking nightmare.
>>77394698Thank you, I'll start calorie counting again from the morning. I really want to get back to who I was before all of this.
>>77394670its incredibly hard. Its harder than quitting heroine. You dont understand because you are a low appetite beta.
>>77394756Thank you
>>77394670>Why don't broken people have responsibility and discipline?
>>77394778Why dont drug addicts simply stop using the drug that is messing up their life???
>>77394779I'm not allowed to not take it by law, if I come off I have to go back to the loony bin, and I have tried being off them and I ended up back in the loony bin. It's medicated on the streets, or hospital for life, what am I meant to do?
>>77394655>>77394516Why don't you guys just get off meds? They will ruin you anyway
>>773945162-3 times a week is a great start. You are probably unfit as fuck from being on the antipsychotics for so long. Just stick to that for consistency for a while don’t try go straight back to where you were at before. You’re now the fat guy at the gym train like it. Also whatever psych meds you are on now will make you more lazy and retarded then before you were on them so set your goals from the perspective of the mildly retarded fat guy you are now and not the Chad you were before.Best of luck Hopefully you can get off them entirely down the track and rejoin us in the real world. (If you haven’t worked it out I’ve been exactly where you are now)
>>77394796Right now, I literally can't, I tried, ended up back in hospital.>>77394804Thank you so much for your advice. I am unfit as fuck, but I am loving being back in the gym, and I'm already seeing small but tangible gains. I know it's a long road, this one med actually doesn't seem so bad, but I'm only settling in, so we'll see how it goes. I know I won't be on these meds for life, but for right now it's just the way it is. I'm at least not sleeping all day long, I have energy again, and I'm now actively looking forward to getting to the gym tomorrow morning, so I feel like I've finally got a bit of reprieve. It's frustrating because they just won't listen to me, I know what's going on with me, I'm actually willing to cooperate, but they keep ignoring me. They tried to diagnose me schizophrenic, but some coincidental recent brain scans showed there were no signs of schizophrenia in my brain and they had to throw that out. I know I can get back to wellness, I just have to play the game right now. You're an actual inspiration to me, thank you for your advice.
>>77394804I second this. Maybe try something MWF, like a full body or UL. But just few sets for eaxh exercise AND HIGHER reps. If you don't have a clue how to create your workout, paste my text in the ChatGPT adding that you're unfit, fat, etc.Add some cardio after every workout, never before. Again, nothing crazy, add something like liss cardio, 15min sessions, every week you add 1min.Injuries are real and easy to come and very hard to go. But follow these basic tenants and I'm pretty sure ygmi
>>77395087Also, I'd add some tirzepatide. It will change your life. Join the stairway to gray or glp1forum and buy local, very cheap. Start and titrate slowly, 2.5mg for the first 4-8 weeks etc. Good luck!
>>77394783you could have at least halved the dosage by getting a cutter for pillsits not like big brother is watching your every breath
>>77394539>On one med they had me on I was sleeping up to 20 hours a dayBrutal, on my antipsychs I was sleeping 14-18 hours a day. I was a total zombie too. Couldnt think straight, zoned out staring at the computer for 45 minutes at a time. Id even shit meself. Didnt care and sat in it for days until I bled. A friend on meth wuold come by and steal valuable things from me to sell and I just didnt care at all. Antipsychs are literal poison, the old or new generations doesnt matter, get off them now anon. Schizophrenia or bipolar mania is infinitely healthier than chemical lobotomies.>>77394823>Right now, I literally can't, I tried, ended up back in hospitalHowdo they know you arent on meds, is it blood tests or what? you must be in the UK. Run away and hide. Fake name, dig through dumpsters, drink free public utility water, whatever it takes, anything is better than the psychiatric system.
>>77395095I'll look into it, thank you.>>77395597Even if I halved the dosage it would still cut off the hormones that tell me when I'm full.>>77395878Sorry you had such a shit time. I've tried coming off, but the people around me have been trained to spot the signs and they just call the hospital as soon as they suspect anything, that's the problem