>byproduct of cheese manufacturing>literal trash mixed with flavor powderswhy is is still so damn expensive?
>>77398368Because goy cattle think they need 500g of protein a day (this dude says up to 3g/kg of bodyweight), so the demand is high. The only way you can get that much protein without throwing up is by drinking it.
>>77398368Byproduct ≠ trash>>77398403Pretty much. Supply & demand. Despite how plentiful it is, the demand is so high... I compromised and started ordering unflavored shit. It tastes like shit but it gets the job done and if I order in bulk it's WAY cheaper per pound compared to the small jars of flavored ones you get at the grocer.
>>77398368>why is is still so damn expensive?Because people buy it.Same thing as bacon or any other "prime" cut of steak.
>>77398422the unflavored shit costs as much as the flavored though.
>>77398368GLP. But the price will crash. People don't stick to their plans and will get fat again.
>>77398368>why is is still so damn expensive?How much are you buying / using?
because women only just now realized they need to consume protein and the goyslop scientists started buying it all to throw into women foods
>>77398430lol. GLPs aren't going anywhere. They are getting more popular every single day. Every single pharma company has heir own triple/quadruple/pentuple agonist in the research pipeline right now.Retatrutide will make Eli Lilly trillions. Start investing in whey protein sellers, boyo.
>>77398368I make avocado shakes with vanilla flavored whey and milk, tastes great but I might switch to greek yogurt soon if it's going to be $75 for 5 pounds
Price just went up again. The amount of protein powder does not seem to influence if i gain muscle or not. Going back to not caring about lean body weight in protons and eating like a normal person.
>>77398477>How much are you buying / using?right now I'm, not buying any because all vendors in the EU have semitically decided to raise prices because like >>77398426 said. retards still buy it. even cheap stores like LIDL have their own overpriced brand of whey, it's ridiculous.
>>77398665this would imply ppl will be disciplined to keep taking GLP, eat right, and upkeep their protein intake
>>77398727i'm over 200lbs and have never had an issue reaching minimum .7g/lb.protein powder is a meme, 1-2g/lb is literally bait to make people buy more protein.what's worse, if you were actually deficient in any amino acid combination it would be the collagen amino acid combinations.it is entirely unlikely anyone in a first world country doesn't get enough meat based proteins.
>>77398430>>77398665Da fuck does GLP have to do with people eating protein powder?
fuck wheyfuck caseinadd another meal or go home and stay a DYEL
>>77398757cause the patients are told to eat more protein
>>77398698Bro, even at Costco. It's like $80 for 5.64 lbs of On Gold Standard. And Costco discontinued their in-house brand because of the price increase.
>>77398766this is like the ram crisis all over
>>77398765lol. So they follow that advice but didn't listen to their doctors for decades to stop eating so much?I've lost weight on keto and pure CICO. Keto feels like magic although it's tougher when also weight training. Pure CICO with great macros can feel worse because of insulin spikes. With a keto CICO, it's much more manageable. I can see why GLP works so well for people, but keto kinda does the same thing.It's actually hard to eat too much on keto unless you down like 200g of protein a day or straight up eat lard.
>>77398775>lol. So they follow that advice but didn't listen to their doctors for decades to stop eating so much?that's what im getting at. they get the drug, but won't stick to the advice about eating protein.
>>77398753>it is entirely unlikely anyone in a first world country doesn't get enough meat based proteins."enough" for existing. Or enough to build muscle?An old US Army study says 120g per day at a minimum if you are athletic and trying to build muscle and increase performance.If you just fuck around in the gym, I would say stick to that 120g at the min.
>>77398760Beef is expensive and chicken get's tiring.
>>77398778i am just coming to the realization that the only protein i was getting for like 5 years was getting double cheeseburgers from mcdonalds.... fml
>>77398739There are different ways to reduce the cost:>buy whey concentrate instead of whey isolate>buy generic instead of name brand>buy whey with limited added ingredients>use smaller amounts as a supplement instead of making it the bulk of your diet>buy in bulk instead of in a small containerIf you were willing to use alternatives to whey, it gets even cheaper:>buy onions or other plant protein powders instead of whey>buy milk or cheese directly instead of whey which is the costly byproduct of cheesemaking>buy foods that are high in protein content, yet still affordable (beans, tofu, tuna, chicken thighs, milk, eggs, and yogurt)You don't need huge amounts of whey protein isolate, except in rare circumstances
>>77398770Unlike RAM. There are multiple sources of protein. So there is that.
>>77398781I'd be interested in the amino acid profile of McDonald's "beef" compared to real beef.
>>77398785Jeez. This fucking place still filters the word $0Y
>>77398778>"enough" for existing. Or enough to build muscle?way more than enough.the greatest majority of injuries and health issues are directly correlated (over 98%) with low collagen amino acid spread.Because of the literal issue we are talking about.Meat amino acids have become so abundant we are increasingly getting less and less collagen spread, and all case studies show the conversion from meat amino acids to collagen amino acids is unsustainable. It's for survival purposes only.Once again, highly athletic, multiple exercises daily (cardio, workout, supplementary workout) over 200lbs 14% body fat.I have never had issues sustaining .7g/lb of protein through just normal diet. More accurate studies show .75g/lb, but anywhere from .6-.8 has been shown to support muscle growth..5g/lb is the literal dietary requirement for sustaining muscle mass, because you only need .5/lb of fresh meat based amino acids daily to sustain the recycling process.As your muscle tissue breaks down naturally, fresh amino acid is placed into it, the broken down amount is recycled and pieced together in different chains or used for conversion purposes to sustain other portions of the body.It's a highly sustainable system.If you were going to be low of any amino acid it would be glycine, followed by proline or hydroxyproline.Most injuries occur from these three, tendons, low skin healing, insomnia, stomach problems.If you were ever going to supplement anything it would be glycine or in general just get more collagen.It's the only thing in a modern diet that would ever be deficient.
>blue collar meatheads learn how supply and demand worksKekking at this thread
>>77398796it's really dumb because actual nutritional onions is on topic for a health/fitness board
>>77398766I just want tasty avocado milkshakes with good macros to drink after a good workout man. Probably just going to buy tubs of greek yogurt now
>>77398799I take Glycine but for sleep. Shit works.
>>77398494The protein trend is mostly targeting to males
>>77398809My German friend just blends quark and peaches.
>>77398810I take one scoop (5g) of gelatin every night about an hour before bed.puts me right to sleep, most health issues lowered within a few months.non exaggerated, but people forget collagen also just exist in your muscles and most muscle pain comes from it.
>>77398403rule #1 never listen to powershitters
>>77398815I really only shop at Costco for groceries and they don't carry it. I'd probably have to go to Trader Joes or Whole Foods
>>77398799The difference is in what is "enough" versus what is "optimal". 0.8g/lb may be enough to support general health, but higher numbers like 1.5g/lb are optimal for maximum muscle growth and recovery. At 0.6-0.8g/lb you wouldn't become deficient in any way, but you wouldn't be optimal either. The main bottleneck amino acid in terms of muscle building is Leucine.
>>77398853Correction, I was thinking of 1.6–2.2 g/kg, which would equal about 0.73–1.0 g/lb, so 0.73 g/lb would be on the low end of optimal.
>>77398368Because the npc goycattle buy it. It's that simple. Get some standards and disengage.
i imagine there may have been a shortage in milk production or something further up the supply chain
>>77399016Whey prices were already insane before the screw worm thing. That just dropped like a month ago. Shit is about to get bad though.
>>77398820Mmmm... Gelatin...
>>77398853You didn't read my post at all..5g/lb is enough to sustain "general health" and your current muscle mass.That's not a debate, it's been quantified, proven by professional athletes, workers, if you even need to say it "weightlifters"..75g/lb is a surplus, with increasing diminishing returns. Just because one person may benefit from .8 or even .9 in rare instances. Doesn't mean that an increase to 1.5g/lb does anything noticeable, to the point it is arguable it doesn't do anything at all.We can actively test someone's protein surplus anon. If you are actively above x threshold, you are actively pissing out and shitting out excess protein. At which point the amino acid ratio spread becomes increasingly important.Since you literally can only synthesize x amount of muscle mass daily. You are increasingly using various systems to digest amino acids for literally no use.Once again, this is 2026 and we differentiate between meat amino acids and collagen amino acids for this exact reason.36% collagen diet anon, look it up before coming back to the thread. because you''re basically living in the stone age.We have already determined the near exact amino acid ratio across the board based off your skeletal mass, lean mass, and excess mass and can place you now where you need to be calorie wise within about a 25-50 calorie variance daily.at 1.5g/lb you would be in such excess caloric wise there is no way you would fit into this 50 calorie variance. Meaning you are overeating, by quite a large amount in fact.Overeating == excess cutting == excess work, alternatively overeating == less aesthetic and your opinion is worth less because you're fat.No one gives a shit that strong fat people exist, that's the easy road, but stop acting like that extra protein does anything other than just make you fat anon.You aren't that magical 0.0001% of the human population that just ignores thermodynamics and physics.
>>77398867>>77399046also i feel stupid that you corrected yourself and i just didn't read your post afterwords.yeah sure there is some variance, but it's not as much as even 1g/lb.That's even a lot.Every study from all professionals in the field regularly should .7-.82g as the highest end, .9 would be absurdly high.i guarantee this was a protein powder scam, it's the only thing that makes sense to sell you more.
>>77398368Why don't people buy milk instead?
>>77399117Milk has more calories per gram and some people can't digest lactose
>>77399046>>773990511.0g per pound for a 150 pound man would only be 150g or 600 Calories. You would not likely gain much fat from eating the extra 100-200 Calories. In fact, if you are restricting Calories, it's recommended to go a bit higher, even up to 1.1g per pound.Glycine supplementation isn't necessary because your body already makes enough by itself. Collagen is an incomplete protein and it shouldn't be used as a protein replacement. If it displaces other protein sources, you will get less Leucine, resulting in less signal for muscle growth.
tfw stocked up on six star cheapies
>>77399192nice to see someone's going to make it
