How do I stop alcohol from destroying my gains?Sometimes I think>I was disciplined, time to celebrate!I know it's retarded logic, but I'm an alcoholic who likes getting wasted 3-4 times a week, but I also like lifting. And these things aren't compatible.
That amount of drinking is gonna destroy your life and your body way more than your gains unless you get help
>>77399104Focus on drinking less rather than suddenly quitting completely. Lower alcohol content, portion control, and reduced frequency all add up to substantially less negative health effects and lower chance of continued addiction over time.Practical tips:>only drink after eating>if you drink spirits, switch to wine, or if you drink wine, switch to beer>only drink on the weekends>stop after a couple of drinks>only drink with friends>never drink at home
>>77399106I didn't mean mean blackout wasted 3-4 times a week (that occasionally happens as well tho), but getting drunk enough that you are moderately drunk. I'm a huge musicfag, and getting drunk and listening to music is my form of theraphy. :/
If you're going to keep drinking like that, do yourself a favor and load up daily on B vitamins. Especially B1. Alcohol will wreck your nerves and B vitamins will help counteract that. Glutathione wouldn't hurt either.
>>77399122Thanks for the advice bro. I eat fish all the time so I shoudl be ok.
>>77399122you need to get actual therapy or seek alternate therapeutic hobbies. this cope of clarifying that you didnt mean black out drunk but "just" getting "moderately drunk" 3-4 times a week. that IS debilitating alcoholic levels of alcoholism. you might be relatively ok now, but as you get older and continue doing exactly this, it will wreck your mind and body. getting healthy friendships and varied activities filling your days is the best. on top of that, you could learn to enjoy music sober. im a big music guy as well, and ive always found listening to music in bed in the dark with headphones to be a profound experience that could feel somewhat "narcotic" or euphoric similar to alcohol, i guess. i know im kinda weird regarding that, though
>>77399104Start with never drinking two days in a row. That much drinking is not good for your overall health, son.
I used to enjoy drinking, but I eventually stopped drinking entirely because I realized that alcohol was counterintuitive to everything I hope to achieve in life. It just wasn’t making my life better in any way.Can’t smoke weed cuz my job drug tests.Rn I’m living life stone cold sober simply because I don’t have a good way to get fucked up. I’m considering microdosing shrooms.
>>77399146Consider eating spicy. I'm not joking it can legit make you high.
you just have to go brokeat 34 yo i went full broke neet from working hard man,i stop drink 4 months ago,before i was 24/7 alcoholic wódka drinker,literally everyday 07 litr per daynow im so broke i cant even afford wodka+ pizza my favourite combo so i stop drink
>>77399104Just don’t drink lmao. That’s so easy. You literally have to do nothing to quit, it takes effort to buy/grab a bottle
>>77399112>getting drunk and listening to music is my form of theraphy. :/Getting drunk prevents you from fixing anything.
>>77399104make yourself occupied, I drink 2-3 times per week but its summer so who cares, I hardly drink during autumn winter and spring due to being so occupied. If you want to lessen the impact stack b vitamins, drink 500ml of water per beer, dont drink before sleeping and eat something before and after. I had a bender last night myself and im fucked up today lol
>>77399375I also like pizzaAlcohol is dirt cheap in this country so brokeness isn't really a solution. I'm already broke. I can still afford to get drunk as often as I want.
>>77399104Man, I've been there, I drank every day for 25 years with periods between a week and six months where I could stay off the sauce. The truth is, if you can periodically dry out for as long as humanly possible and get in the best shape possible during those times, then you can mostly muddle through. And when you're say back at it after a summer of fitness, if you can keep it dignified for another three months before getting shithammered wasted all the time, then that helps too.Life is temporary, and the reason you love the sauce is permanent. It's just a perpetual battle over what is more important until you're dead. I've been dry except for about five drinks for about 7 months, mostly because my doctor said I was going to die if I didn't, and I didn't want to do that to my wife. So here we are. Whether this will be the same during football season, who knows or cares, that's an issue for then.If you can, keep lifting even though you drink too much. Also, eat the absolute best you can. It's just money, it's not really real unless you really don't have enough. Cheap out on the booze, instead, keep it entry level, clean, and the same exact thing every day. Avoiding major swings in consumption will save your body and more importantly, nervous system. Good luck.
>>77399392I have gained more solid muscle than most anyone natty who have ever been on this board by drinking most days. It is literally worse to try and lean bulk than to consume 1000-1500 calories of liquor and beer average a day.
>>77399387What are great idea, tell the addict that it's all or nothing amd that you are already doing considersble damage with a 6 pack of beer like he's a teenage girl drinking 10%. Doing God's work.
>>77399504most retards here are teenagers themselves they've never battled shit like this, their biggest battle in life was talking to their crush lmao
>>77399507I could never understand drinking past a nice buzz though, it makes me think mental illness or self hate for its own sake. I just assume anyone with bad side effects is chronically spending their last few dollars on vodka.
>>77399515depends on the person, alcohol makes me feel so good with not a lot of adverse side effects. at most I feel down for a day but thats about it, and thats if I drink 8 beers plus. My family handles alcohol pretty effectively genetically I think, most people are high functioning alcoholics with zero liver damage
>>77399515You don't have "it", or you would have felt clarity, stress relief, optimism, a sense of possibility, etc. It's slightly different for everyone who feels things like this, but yeah, if it weren't like that, what would be the point? Note: not counting the truly mentally here.
>>77399520also this. I am a reserved person who can't share his emotions very well, alcohol helps me open up and let loose a little. Otherwise I'd just be brittle I think. Alcohol makes me feel euphoric, makes me listen to music more vividly, makes me more vitalOf course that doesn't mean its good for you, which is why I limit my alcohol intake massively during other seasons.
>>77399520I do have the alcohol feels like opiates gene but I also lift most days and stay active so drinking too much just makes me feel like shit. Also smoking weed makes the liquor make you sick. However "alcoholics" do seem to be masochistic, if I drink even a little too much I feel like absolute shit in 20 minutes it isn't even funny. I have no clue how you wake up after drinking a lot and keep doing it, further spongifying your brain. It needs a few hours at least to soak up nutrients and water.
>>77399525The music does not hit sober though 99% of the time especially without bass.
>>77399518Same here, I've always been against feeling the high or whatever and want what will actually fuck me up while fighting it. I'm not a god damn hippie I don't want to get groovy god dammit.
>>77399540Drinking every 2nd day seems to be the sweet spot. Doing it every day just seems like too much work. Resistance builds up so you literally have to drink like a maniac to get the same feeling.
>>77399548Weed does the opposite of alcohol to me which is why I don't like it.Alcohol creates a comfy barrier between me and the world. Weed tears the barrier down and exposes me to the world or erases the wall altogether. It makes me self-conscious, paranoid, fragile, sensitive etc.
>>77399549I drink down to maybe 1 or 2 beers some days and probably some times I don't idk. It just feels weird not to. I'm pretty sure this is one of the mechanics in lowering blood pressure that makes people live longer anyways, I'm pretty muscular so 2 or 3 ipas for me is literally like a 16-20oz 5% beer over 2hrs for the average person.
>>77399552And when that comfy barrier is there, it allows me to actually focus on my inside and my mind without the noise of the outside world. When I'm drunk my creativity is boosted like crazy. I remember stuff vividly from my past that I usually don't remember. I get access to portions of my self that I usually don't have access to. I understand why I did certain things years or even decades ago. Alcohol almost feels like magic to my mind. I feel like I'm truly me and can do anything.Weed just makes me feel retarded and exposed. I don't want to be in touch with the world. The world is fake and gay. I want to conquer it.
>>77399552I always thought the same until I started hydrating enough while drinking. If you are really feeling it drinking is better than weed for 30min or so then it's all shit. Or you have insane weed and beers to chill out. You've been on reddit too much haven't you? Have they been trying to make you gay by giving you super duper good weed? They almost got me.
>>77399562beautifully put
>>77399562Sounds like you need to lay off the juice a little bit son. Try drinking like an adult, every single day but just a beer or 2 and some liquor that is advertised as nice so it's fancy yet is distilled to a lower standard.
>>77399104I find it highly doubtful that the stereotype of rich successful types drinking liquor all the time is big liquor. But then again there's always a bigger jew.
>>77399104Whisky beer and salty food pwo is perfect for a pump if you drink enough water. The mistake most fitness gurus make is not also eating the wings and fries.
>>77399582No I won't have a water what do I look like tinkerbelle?
>>77399110This. Even if the immediate concern is jeopardizing gains, the compounding effects of a lifetime of alcohol consumption will hit very hard as you age. As a matter of good health practice, it is useful to consider tapering off while still young so you can cut it out entirely around 40 when your metabolism completely goes to shit and a weekend of drinking means blowing out your macros, fucking up your sleep, and generally tanking an entire week.
