>Who is /fat/ for?For frightening fatties who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqhttps://f-droid.org/packages/fr.shiningcat.simplehiit/Previous thread: >>77400919
>>77402799My heartrate was stubbornly low today, took far more effort than usual to hit/maintain zone 1 and as soon as I stopped peddling it dropped right back down to the mid 40s.>>77404169Yeah, but keeping it off is the hard part. Part of me still hasn't gotten used to not being obese. I was obese basically my entire life, its going to take me awhile to get used to it I guess.
>>77404306im curious what your physique body progress pics look like
>>77404314Its bad, all loose skin and stretchmarks. I think I demoralized a few anons last time I posted.
smoked haddock, fries, even onion rings for dinner. Lowest weight i've ever been. Regular CICO no fad diets.
>had a large root beer, 2 large whoppers with cheese, chili cheese fries, and 6 zebra cakes I think im just destined to be a fat slob for the rest of my life. I tried but goyslop and porn is just too addicting. Goodbye /fat/
>>77404339Another fallen soldier
I pigged out.It's been like a year, but I finally did it.I blame the World Cup.
>>77404323what if i dont want to be sedantary ?
>>77404369blame the misfortune of your birth
God damn keto is so difficult to do a deficit on, it takes such little food to fill out 1500 calories and I can't just stuff my face full of vegetables either since it takes such a tiny amount of carbs to stop ketosis.
>>77404376What kind of foods are you eating?Typical keto foods keep me feeling full for hours. The only vegetables I have is spinach and sauerkraut, the latter being more expensive but has fuck all calories and carbs. 1500 is also a pretty steep deficit if you're a big guy. If you're a woman it's probably fine
>>77404372Eat zero carb and lift like Dr Shawn Baker.
>>77404337Post body.
>>77404376>it takes such a tiny amount of carbs to stop ketosisthis isnt true. remember to count net carbs. most people stay comfortably in ketosis having anywhere from 20 to 50g net carbs per day
>>77404376You don't have to restrict calories on keto. Unlimited calorie keto works better than restricting calories with carbs.
>>77404383Breakfast:1 Avocado1 Scoop protein powder in coffee1 boiled egg40g of cheeseLunch:80g chicken breast1 boiled egg100g steamed broccoli100g steamed green beans1 tbsp oilDinner:1 Avocado80g chicken breast40g of cheeseLunch was 4 hours ago and my latest pee test showed ketosis slowed down alot from the morning.
>>77404397You don't have to restrict them as severely as CICO but you definitely should. Depending on how overweight you are, lets say as an obese person, over eating needs to be rectified so they can shrink their stomach. Not doing so will make the weight loss far slower
>>77404400>how big was the avocado? how much did it weigh?>what kind of cheese did you eat?avocados are great and luckily like 80% of the carbs are mostly fiber. broccoli and beans are more like 50-60% fiber to carb ratio which is also fine in the amount you ate.when did you start this diet? it can take a while to enter nutritional ketosis.
>>77404401Measuring all your food and logging it in a diary is super gay and mentally ill. Instead of restricting calories I would just recommend adding some fasting days to accelerate weight loss, shrink the stomach, get autophagy gains and even stem cell healing. If you eat low-carb or nocarb it makes it easy to fast because of the high satiety. Also fasting gets easier after you do it a few times. It's like a learned skill.No need to fast longer than 4 days at a time. Even an occasional 1 day fast is beneficial.
>>77404405also, was the protein powder flavored? those can contain quite a bit of sugar. was it WPI or WPC?>>77404408There's nothing gay about planning. It's the difference between successful people and those who aren't, in all aspects of life, diet not withstanding. Fasting werks but I found it negatively impacted my gym sessions and re-comping was more difficult. Easier for me to stick to regular daily meals
>>77404401>shrink their stomach.This doesn't actually happen, not literally, at least not on any reasonable timescale. What does happen is your tolerance for the satiety hormones relaxes making you feel full sooner.
>>77404339gorge on potatoes. baked, boiled or microwaved.670 grams of potatoes is only 556 calories.
>>77404405I was on low carb, switched to keto last night. I was peeing out 1.5mmol/L in the morning. Like I said its very easy to slip into keto from low carb, just hard to keep it up without foods that fill me and don't stop ketosis. Last pee test was 0.5mmol/L so lunch really isn't working out. That or I'm not burning body fat at all and the pee test is just a reaction to food being turned into ketones.
I recently bought a VR headset in the hope it would motivate me to do cardio when the weather is bad.Here are my ratings of games I've played so far:Racket: NXSquash with extra stepsFun as a game: BIntense as exercise: 4/5Synth Riderssame as Beat Saber, Moon Rider etc.Fun: B-, Exercise: 5/5Walkabout MinigolfA, 1/5 (unless you have a huge space so you don't have to teleport as much, then it's 2/5)Superhot VRB+, 2/5 to 5/5 depending on your play styleRunnerride a bike and shoot stuffC, 2/5 (probably 3 if you're better at it than I am)Mosscute puzzle platformerB 1Angry BirdsB 1The Light BrigadeFPSC- 2Phantom: Covert OpsFPS in a kayakD+ 3The Climb 2C 2Pistol WhipF 0 (can't play it, gives me headaches)Premium BowlingC+ 3
>>77404296>>77404445didnt notice post limit
>>77403652i can't stand the smell of these let alone thinking about actually drinking them...i'd say some people can enjoy super artificial stuff like this but not all.>>77403962ofc!!
>>77404434Yeah but they taste like shit
>>77404456i am a double retard, i'm 6'3" (191cm) and i'm sitting at 270~273
>>77403652Look up the owners of Monster, they're Jews. The drink is literally cursed by Jewish mystics:https://youtube.com/watch?v=kltd3mptVDY
>>77404296Took a walk for an hour earlier and didn't eat anything beforehand. Walking on a sunny day is a top tier exercise.
>BREAKFAST >470ml Coffee + 118ml milk + 16g sugar>4 Fried Jumbo Egg + 7g butter>85g baby spinach>33g bran flakes + 103ml milk>SNACKS>2 kiwi fruits>1 apple>DINNER>380g top round beef -OR- 327g rotisserie chicken >OTHER>Drink at least 4000ml water>No eating after 5pmDecreased body weight from 80 to 75kg and reduced waist circumference from 89 to 85cm in 23 days.
>>77404458no they don't. they're just plain. season them.
>>77404456have you tried switching to diet soda?otherwise, read the steps in the OP or hop on keto uf you're rich enough for it.
>>77404434Any alternatives for the porn?
Stop engaging with ketoschizo
>>77404588not that i know of. even Epstein watched porn.masturbation is absolutely fine as long as it is not to porn.
I’ve noticed people are nicer to me the less fat I am
>>77404594One of the many life lessons they don't teach anymore is that fat people didn't get fat by being selfless, they are as awful inside as they are on the outside. Never hire a fat person, they won't do any work.Parents hired a FAT property manager, the lazy cunt moved in a single mom and her three kids into their house and it cost them tens of thousands of dollars in lost rent and renovations that had to be done after they tore up the place.
>3-4 years of bedrotting + office job>no visible belly through my clothes but still fat as fuck>decided to start uphill walking 1 hr a day 2.2-2.4mph on the treadmill>7 days in, went 5/7 days so far>tfw felt a sharp pain shoot up the back of one legHoly fuck I'm such a pathetic subhuman. Ihave like 5-7 latent/existing injuries at this point that keep coming back whenever i attempt to use one routinely. GETTING OLD FUCKING SUCKS!!!!
>>77404628weird projection, most fat ppl are normal, the men at least, fat women are something else
>>77404464ye I have also come to enjoy walking, not really a fan of running because too fat
shit myself on the treadmill at my favorite gym, I can never go back
>>77404676It's an easy low effort way to get movement and burn calories. Plus if it's sunny out get vitamin D gains
>>77404676running is extra work for no real gain, like yeah you develop good endurance but at the cost of shaving the cartilage on already damaged knees from being overweight forever? big no. Its an easy way to need a knee replacement at 45.
>>77404676incline walking is the absolute best thing you can do for your heart + weight loss, along with biking. and no damage to your joints in the process
Man you know shits fucked when literally every single guy has gyno.
It's really hard to trust TDEE calculators. AI says that a 6ft 165lb guy lifting three times a week needs to eat ~2400Cal per day and if I run twice a week then ~2700Cal per day.According to that I wouldn't even need to diet, I could just eat garbage like normal and lift/run and I'd automatically lose fat.
Why do you guys fight against the inevitable? America wants you to be fat and happy
>>77404712but i only got half of the deal, i was scammed
>fatass friend wants to lose weight and get in shape like me>asks me how i did it>tell him keto and hitting the gym>give him some pointers but he claims its too difficult and could never do it>"i'm italian background bro i NEED bread and pasta in my life">tell him he doesn't have to do keto, just count calories and eat whole foods>~a month goes by>he says he tried to follow the keto diet that he researched online and now has a myriad of health issues>also hasn't really lost weight>luckily he has tracked all his food so i can go through it with him>everything looks good so far, lots of whole food, fat, vegetables, not much protein though>ask how he's been getting protein for his lifting>drops that he has anywhere from 5-10 protein bars along with shakes per day>what the fuck>"yeah i got them bulk on sale and they dont have any sugar. keto diet says you can eat whatever you want as long as it has no sugar">neglected to see that they're loaded with processed sugar and all kinds of shit>he has kidney stoneslmao
>>77404728why didn't you tell your "friend" about protein powder?
>>77404740i told him i have whey and he tried it and said it tasted awful, even the flavored ones. dudes a sugar addict
>>77404743have him add sugar to his shake
>>77404755not a bad idea, i didn't think of thathe blames me for his fuckup though so i doubt it'll help
>>77404728>>77404743sounds like the exact type of person that reta was made for lmao
>Be me>Lifelong overweight>Parents, Brothers, grandparents, uncles and aunts have only ever seen me fat and with a beard>Spend the last year unfatting myself>Cico and 3 nights a week in the gym>Reduce body fat percentage down to 25>There's still plenty of work to do>Shave beard, there's more definition to my face. Happy with progress.>Go to nephew's birthday party >Family notice that Anon is less fat>Family assume GLP usage>Get interrogated about whether I'm using>Get a chance to cross examine after beating the allegations >Turns out both my brothers are on ozempic, uncle was ordered by doctor to get on ozempic, sister in law wants ozempic>They're all still fatFeels fucking great m8. Got enough compliments and notices this last weekend to keep me on the straight and narrow and losing the rest of this fucking weight. WAGMI.
Had a sort of date with my ex today. Dinner and a show. Spent almost 8 hours together. She said she's very happy to see that I have been working on getting healthier physically while she's worked on her issues. We agreed that we do feel that spark still and want to explore it again soon. I told her I would like to get closer to my goal weight before committing to that. We'll see where that goes.
>500 calories potatoes>200 rice>100 chicken>200 yogurt>1000 calories total>full to burstingwagmi
I WANT A GODDAMNED PEPPERONI PIZZA
>>77404775potatoes are a cheat code to weight loss. can't same a single other food that actually fills volume to make you feel full with moderate cals
>took a massive shitOh yeah, I'll be seeing that on the scales tomorrow
>massive shit went back up my assgod damn it
How did he do it???from 23 yo to 26 yo.
>>77404786what the fuck
>>77404762Based. I live alone, and haven’t had a prolonged conversation with another human being in years.
>>77404786>should I see a doctor and get my gyno treated?>nah, they'll look sick with rings drooping from them later
Yeah I definitely went too deep into this, all I needed to do was lay off the chips and add a scoop of protein powder to my coffee. Going from completely sedentary in the winter to active in the summer while going into a deep deficit was a bad idea.
>>77404807>i know, i'll completely tank my hormones and energy by being in some retarded +1000 calorie deficit and go hard in the gym. surely this is the way to make gains and not be a fatty anymore
>>77404588Breaking a porn addiction takes a lot of time and you have to start by cutting out consumption of videos.I'd recommend heading over to /t/ and downloading some still images. I think there might still be a complete hustler magazine torrent up.
Well, after couniting calories, I can conclude that alcohol is FUCKING DOGSHIT. This shit must fuck with your hormones and bodies ability to burn off fat. I guess your body prioritizes metabolizing the booze instead of the food so it fucks with digestion. I don't think I can drink more than a few days a week now, if any at all. FUCK BOOZE!
>>77404728Many. Such. Cases.
>>77404813Just cut it out entirely. Pure ethanol is almost as calorie dense as pure oil.
>>77404376if you are after fat lossjust fucking eat eggs, boilet or ometlettes it doesnt matteryou can eat 20 and still be on deficit and you wont eat 20 ever since they are so filling and not exactly delicious. Tons of protein and other health shit too so you don't end up looking like skeletor either
>>77404786Top Lighting? Interesting, would not have been my first call...
Threadly reminder, that:WAGMI
>>77404581i don't really like diet soda and dark sodas make me break out so i just stick to strictly water and maybe 8~16oz of gatorade per day if i sweat a lot
>238 in Feb>165 goal weight>194.7 currently Oh my fuck bros I’m so tired. I broke a couple weeks early in March but l buckled in and am on a 900-950 cal/day diet. Almost ready to give up. I don’t even look different in the mirror.
>>77404337can you share your meal entries?
>>77404400the 80g cheese is expensive on calories
>>77404743seriously? milk and a chocolate protein powder tastes like ice cream
>>77404762That's amazing. Rooting for you two if it's the healthy thing for you both. Good luck anon.
>>77404912i am not going to make it. i'm stuck at the same weight with ZERO movement for the 3rd week despite being in 10k+ weekly caloric deficit. i'm losing my fucking mind
>>77404947same but monthsi dropped to 1000 calories per day to see if it would work. i dropped some then gained back most of it but not all so i guess it's progress.
>>77404728"Italian"-Americans are literally 1:1 like Mexicans>NO HOLMES, I NEED MY TACOS AND QUEASADILLA
>>77404761>>Turns out both my brothers are on ozempic, uncle was ordered by doctor to get on ozempic, sister in law wants ozempic>>They're all still fatOzempic is literally just a "skinny subscription" but it seems that fatsos can't even get skinny with GLP-1s kek
>>77404912>Threadly reminder, that:>WAGMINah man, I just jerked off to some Yoruichi×Soi Fon futanari hentai and I'm now going to do some cardio
>>77405044>>77405047
I have been 288-290 for a month. Obsessively tracking calories with food scale and measuring cups and MFP logging, including oils and condiments. Staying around 1000 below goal defecit. Choke down about 190g protein a day. I workout upper/lower 4x a week and get about 20,000-25,000 steps from job(5days) and 6,000 from after meal walks. I am assuming its muscle and water somehow? But its really weird to still be the same weight for about a month. I do not tape measure waist but i do think some of my pants are a bit looser. I do feel muscles kind of waking up in areas. I wonder if that's what it could be. I wish the weight would drop a little faster if I am losing fat and gaining muscle.
I never tried losing weight so this is a first for me and Ive lost like 5kg in the last month but I noticed one thingmy right side (Id say around the liver) feels kinda strange, no pain but like sore muscles but only on the right sidefirst I thought I was sore from training but I havent trained in a week and it feels the sameso is this just my body adapting or am I going to die? anyone experienced something simmilar?
>>77405084I did. For me, it was gallstones passing through the bile duct. It started out similarly to what you're describing, but as I continued to lose weight it got worse. Gallstones began to cause multi-day blockages in the bile duct, during which time I couldn't digest food properly and was in severe pain. The last time it happened, a stone was lodged in my bile duct for about 6 days, and I had to get a procedure (ERCP) to remove it. I had my gallbladder removed a day after that and haven't experienced that pain since.Just beware it can be an issue. The next cues for me were just food taking forever to leave the stomach and then a sharp pain around the gallbladder.
>>77405113thanks alot I check it with my doctorso you can just live normally without the gallbladder or are you on meds constantly?
>>77404296Hello, I am a fat fuck, well not really obese, I am 176790 ish kg and two years of gym behind my back until I started medschool two years ago. I can't really get my hold on my diet while generally not eating much, I can't help to grab an Ice cream with friends and family on the daily basis. Any tips for that shit? I get my protein mainly from diary, 0 fat cheese curds mixed with shit to gulp it down. I started gym 2 weeks ago and I train till failure generally focusing on low weights high reps and high rest, and I play tennis 3 times a week around 3 hours each session.I am desperate, and even when I was 70ish kg I didn't have a 6 pack. fat distribution is a faggot and I hate the way I have become a book worm fat slab of useless meatmuch appreciatedHow do I get over that? or is it over for me
>>77405128I live normally. The only difference is the gallbladder isn't there to regulate bile flow, so you need to eat consistently throughout the day, even if it's something small. If you don't, diarrhea.Whole psyllium husk is a good way around eating, but it's nasty.
Had insane hunger cravings for days.Forced myself to not eat all sunday and its much better now.Might be a good idea to work in a fast day every week or month or so.
just finished my first HIIT, it was 15 minutes long. Should i do it every day or every other day? What kind of calorie loss can i expect? im 320 lbs
>>77405206i'm 180 pounds and can't go for more than 5 minutes
>>77405214well i did cheat a lot, the guy does the exercise for 60 seconds on video and i do it for 30 sec but still, how tall are you anon? you dont sound that fat
Fatty ContestLargeAndInCharge114.1kg
I think I have an eating disorder. Like, a different one than the "fat fuck who likes stuffing his face" I already knew I had.
I've been stuck at the same weight for four days straight. What the fuck
>>77405206is there a point in doing HIIT as fattieany muscle you gain is going to melt with fat loss and you wont gain any new muscles assuming you go calorie deficit?if you want cardio, then walking 10-20km every day is way better since it doubles as fat loss simultaneously
I shaved my beard and it was a bit of a wake up call on how out of control the weight gain has gotten. I am going to eat these 6 remaining double bacon cheeseburgers (maybe all tonight) and then going strict keto. Might even get on the peptides, I was on Mounjaro and it seemed to help a bit with the weight loss last year, but it kept making me poop myself so I stopped.But before peptides were even a thing I lost like 40kg in 6 months once just pure keto.
>>77405275i dont care about muscles i just wanna look like a normal human beingHIIT seems to be more effective for weight loss than walking or regular cardio
Stupid question butHow am I meant to drink the protein shakeAm I drinking it slowly with moderation or I can just gulp it down like a thirstry retard?
>>77405318just b urself
>>77405318why the fuck you want to drink/eat protein slopjust eat eggs or something that fills you if you actually want to lose fat instead, you just end up being hungry all day if you fill yourself with slop proteinslop is for muscle building when you want and need certain amount of protein to build up muscle and actual meat/fish ish too expensive for itfor fat loss you want eggs or something that you can go by and not starve
>whyslop wouldslop youslop wantslop toslop eatslop slopslopholy shit learn to type and use less buzzwords
>>77405307It isnt. And you cant do as much
>>774052165'6". i have tiddies, gut, and love handles.
>>77405047>jerking off before workout>not aftergood taste at least
It's been 60 days since I started trying to lose weight and I've lost 37lbs. Standing ovation time, go on
>>77405318Disregard what the schizo dude said. Just chug that shit
>>77405368>>>/wsg/6199382
>>77405375Lel thanks brudda
>>77405344HIIT increases basal metabolism for whole 24 hours afterwards. so that's extra 200-300 calories on top of 300-500 you burn with the trainingyou have to walk 3 hours for something like that. Which I would do if I lived somewhere close to nature or woods, creeks, rivers and such, but i live in concrete jungle hellhole
>>77405395but how much do you have to do? i usually do 20 minutes of HIIT on the excercise bike before doing my regular lifting but i could stretch it to 30 if it really mattered
>go grocery shopping>buy 14 broccoli and 2 6-packs of chicken>qt cashier rings me up>she smiles at me>smile back, reminding myself she doesn't mean anything by it, she's just being nice>cashier: umm sir, what do you do with all this broccoli?>me: I umm.. eat it?>cashier: yourself?>me: ye-yeah>cashier: how long does it take you?>me: about a week>cashier: 0_0>cashier: do you like make it into soups or something>me: no I just eat it normal>she looks at me like I'm deranged>pay, say have a nice day, and leave knowing I can never go back
>>77404813Your body has a heirarchy for fuel preference, as long as something higher up on the list is in your body it won't touch something lower, alcohol is at the top of the list, followed by carbs, protein then fat. The last two are debateable as for their order, they switch places depending on what you are doing.>>77404811The problem with this is being able to tell that I'm in a 1000cal deficit, it doesn't seem so when I compare my current diet to before because nothing really changed about my meal portions. I was already in a deficit before because I physically can't eat more than 600-700Cal in one sitting, what got me fat was the snacking in between meals. A handful of chips or nuts every time I passed by the kitchen slowly added up over time.
>>77405424I plan on doing max 20 mins every other day. I just did my first training today so ill report back in couple of weeks whether it works or not
>>77405449You should've given her the explanation about how FOLATE makes your muscles work and increases the intensity of your LIFTS while flexing in front of her.
>>77405449nigga just say its part of your workouts
>>77405449Women will never understand what it takes us to ascend.
>>77405449>reminding myself she doesn't mean anything by it, she's just being nicedoesn't sound like she was being nice after all
Rate my gainz
>>77405449>chicken and broccoliShe's right. You are deranged. You are still falling for low-fat diets.
>>77405480wtf is this ugly ass art style
SW 229 6/27CW 214GW 175-180, not sureDoing cico with a focus on low carbs and high protein. About a third of my calories are probably protein shakes at this point as i'm trying to avoid being too protein deprived. Zucchini noodles have been a surprisingly passable pasta replacement, pretty happy with that discovery.I've been throwing 30 lbs in a backpack and hitting trails with my dogs 5-7 miles a day. Kinda tempted to try tirz or ret. Half my office is on tirz or ozempic. Seems like retatrutide actually has some metabolic benefits?
>>77405581You don't need pharmaceuticals. All risk, no reward. Could go blind, get cancer, die, etc. Results in poor body composition (loss of muscle, loss of bone mass).Your low-carb diet will do the trick. I'd eat whole foods like eggs and meat but whatever the only thing that matters is low-carb. I always end up eating more than enough protein and not enough fat just by eating whole foods. Cooking hamburger and bacon causes so much fat to be lost I have a hard time figuring out how to get dietary fat for hormone health. But if protein shakes work for you to stay low-carb don't worry about it. Low carb is key.
>was stuck on a weight for 3 weeks>ate out at a all you can eat buffet and stuffing myself with 18 plates of beef.>Suddenly, I start losing weight againWtf happen?
>>77405558What do you recommend Bacon and Avocado?
I dont believe the high fat meme.I can eat infinite kcals of that. one kg of sausage a day EASILY.
>>77405616I tend to eat three meals:- sugar-free bacon and eggs (low sodium bacon tends to be sugar free, check the ingredients)- hamburger patties with cheese and sauerkraut- tinned salmon with creme fraiche and dill picklesIf you like making more complicated recipes try getting a dash mini waffle iron. You can make chaffles which are perfect hamburger buns and perfect for breakfast sandwiches.
>>77405634KEKYou're a meme, thanks for the laugh.
>>77405634>sugar-free bacon and eggs>sugar-free eggsah yes, i hate the sugar added eggs the chickens make. not to mention the sugar bacon from those farm pigs.
keto schizo is back. cya in the next thread.
a woman told me that i should stop losing weight and gain muscle instead, but i dont even have abs yet and i am lifting for a couple months nowis it over for me?
>>77405715>a woman told me then you can safely disregard what it said.
>>77405636Works for me to stay lean without calorie restriction or exercise. It's also delicious.
>>77405745Based keto chad
>>77405718is that how it works?
How to achive serenity and stop my eyes wander over those TIGHT pants women wear at the gym
I just want to eat carbs
>>77405835Eat what you're supposed to: no carbs.
>>77405449Shouldve raped her with your dick in her pussy while shoving the broccoli up her ass to show her what you really do with the broccoli
bellyhangingonmydick here (>>77402521) and I've eaten broccoli for the first time. I had meat, broccoli, potatoes, cauliflowers, and bearnaise sauce on my plate. The broccoli tasted good with the bearnaise sauce. Potatoes were alright. Meat was tender and it tasted great. Cauliflower was a little weird but I'll get used to it. I might eat that a lot more. I haven't done a lot of research into bearnaise sauce. My goal is mainly a high-protein, moderate fat, low carb diet. I'm going on Wegovy (complain all u want, fags) and I'll go outside a lot more. I might consider going to the gym to maintain my muscle but I'm going on the lowest dose of Wegovy so I have time to make it a habit before I go up a dose (which has a bigger effect on me)6'5, ~320 lbs, and 18 yo. I hope the constant sun in my face gives me browner skin too, I need that.
i'm legit baffled. Trying to lose weight (at 100kg) I'm stuck around 98 kg for WEEKS now.I literally have been eating 2 hard boiled eggs, 500 grams of yoghurt, and 200 grams of meat with some veggies in the evening, I'm fucking STARVING myself and so far, I lost 0.7 kgs, which I readded because I had to go to a family gathering where we ate pancakes and I ate one pancake out of courtesy.what the FUCK am I doing wrong? I'm 187 cms tall, have the calorie intake of a 40 year old woman, and I still hold on to the WEIGHTSI've been withholding carbs for a few weeks, but nothing helps.
>>77405824just look, walk up to them and clap those cheeks
>>77405868I hear this so often that it must be your metabolism slowing down. I've been severely undereating for a month and a half and every time I get some gains in the gym I lose it all because my body is consuming muscle. These crash diets don't fucking work, just eat a clean 2000cals and work out and shit will take care of itself.
>>77405882>lose it all because my body is consuming muscleno it fucking doesnt if you use your muscles and eat enough protein
>>77405571I think its called hentie its like a chinese thing
>>77405868Measure your waist instead of just your weight. With a healthy low-carb diet you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.
>>77405885I guess my lifts just magically got 25% worse for no reason.>if you eat enoughI just told you I'm not eating enough and neither are the retards in here living off of one boiled egg.
Plan to eat minimum 500g non starchy veges daily with good mix of colors, be mindful of oxalate and goitrogens.Memorize how 50g,100g,300g of vegetables feels and looksMake mental notes of how much you've eaten each during day, if you think you are short, stuff a fuckton into dinner, it's easy to tell whether you've eaten around 500g of veges.Plan for 300-500g of fruit(excluding high calorie dense fruit like avo)For every fruit you regularly eat get a rough idea of its weight.when estimating round to nearest hundred grams, or measure with a cup.Set a target for how much oil you will use daily or weekly and try and stick to it.Try to eat 20-50g of seeds and nuts dailyBuild a daily meal plan 3,4 meals 1-3 snacks whatever.. plan the meals around protein dense sources.Target 200-300g oily low mercury fatty fish a week and stick to itAim for 1.2g-1.6g/kg protein daily from animals and plant sources(legumes).Limit red meat to once a week, same with fried food. Poaching, Sous vide, steaming are the most healthy methods of cooking then its airfrying then pan frying then deep-frying, smoking.Many vegetables should be/need to be cooked to reduce anti-nutrtientsSeeds and nuts too probably.High oxalate veges like spinach can cause kidney stones if you eat too much especially when raw.Take vitamind3 with k2 softgelsPlan to eat 60g-130g wholegrain daily(drweight)If you overate the previous day don't eat anymore, if you want to maintain or gain weight then eat another 60g-130g+ of wholegrain(dryweight) or anything else has similar amount of calories.Use cronometer.com with disposable email to see how much nutrients/minerals/macros you are receiving with your current meal plan, it only matters the average nutrients you are receiving over a week or more obviously.
I’m so fat and nasty I don’t even feel hunger anymore. Just varying sensations of fullness.I’m going to be ordering myself some Panda Express and large strawberry Fanta
>>77405868bro don't even remind me. i'm stuck at 97 for 3 weeks despite fucking fasting. i've eaten a total of 8,500 calories in these last 3 weeks an all of it healthy no processed slop or anything like that. fasting 3 to 4 days up to 6 once. and yet i'm fucking STUCK at 97kg for 3 weeks now. genuinely HOWi drink 4L of water and even after fasting for 3 days and pissing every other hour i still feel bloated for some fucking reason
>>77405933Look these guys were eating random garbage before and they're still alive, there's no need to go all out with min/maxing everything. Just limit yourself to a few basic ingredients like: rice, oatmeal, chicken and vegetables and only use oil for the chicken and it'll be almost impossible to overeat. Combine with weight lifting and you'll lose weight without even trying.People mainly get fat from eating sugar and oil.
how am I doing chat?
>>77405933>fruitFruits have too much sugar.>Limit red meat to once a week>Use cronometerNice try vegan.>>77405965>rice, oatmeal,Grains are for fattening cattle.>chickenPork and beef taste better and are healthier.
>>77405975It depends on whether you're eating carbs or not.
>>77405975you are progressingthats all that matters
>>77405975Nice work! I use that app toorate my progressn’t
>>77405979Carbs are your preferred source of energy, limit carbs and you'll have to compensate with an insane amount of meat or your body will burn your muscles for fuel. There's nothing wrong with eating minimally processed carbs like rice, oatmeal and potatoes.
>>77406012Wrong. Eating carbs causes muscle loss by blocking fat burning.
>>77406022Fat is your bodys last go to source of fuel which is why it's so fucking hard to get rid of. You can do it gradually or try to do it all at once and end up burning muscle instead.Alcohol > carbs > protein >fatThis is the heirarchy of what your body uses for fuel and nothing you do will change that.
>>77404645If fat people were normal, they wouldn't be fat.
>>77404705AI is not a TDEE calculator.
>>77406028Fat is easy to get rid of if you just stop eating carbs. Insulin blocks fat burning. Carbs raise insulin.Muscle loss is caused by eating carbs while restricting calories. Once you run out of carbs if your insulin remains high the body loses muscle because fat is impossible to burn until insulin goes down.
>come home after cardio session>take shower>lay in my comfy bed to relax before sleep >BZZZZT>mosquito buzzing around my head>it flies up to my ceiling>jump on my bed and "kill" it with a fly swatter>it convincingly falls down dead in betweem some boxes>finally get to relax>5 mins later>BZZZZZT>sonuva bitch survived>this time I smash it with both my palms and twist it's body between my fingers to make sure it's deadAh yes the joy of being -O during the summer, I swear mosquitoes are getting smarter and smarter every year
>>77405933>be mindful of oxalate and goitrogens.Thank God you saved me the effort of reading the rest of your useless post so early on
>>77406080Uh OK?
>>77404628In my experience it's 50/50, the only people who seem to be rotten on the inside without fail are manlets in high positions or any positions of power
>>77405868You see, that's kinda the problem, you shouldn't eat so few calories, it makes your body go into starvation mode where it tries to function off less, the way I've consistently lost weight(1kg per week) is by walking 2 hours every day and eating around 2k calories normally, when you put it all in a calculator, I end up in a deficit of roughly ~1000 calories a day
>>77406085I just wanted to vent about my hatred of mosquitoes...
>>77406075the ketotard is spreading disinfo again
>>77405616I highly recommend this channel for top tier keto/low-carb recipe and meal ideas.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2MtWCGs1N0RI9y4Q1RkSVTVMCLCdihCI
>>77406103I'm spreading provable fact. People who eat carbs have lower muscle mass and lower metabolism.
Isn’t there a fucking keto general or something >”fat loss general”>look inside>ketard general
>>77404306
>>77406112>cooking with jackLol. You're trolling but since you brought up the subject I will give a serious recommendation.Chris Cooking Nashville is the best keto recipe channel:https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisCookingNashville/videosPapa G's Low Carb Recipes is also great but hasn't had new recipes in years:https://www.youtube.com/@PapaGCooking/videos
>>77406118Keto is on topic because it actually works for weight loss.CICO is off topic because it causes obesity and never works for anyone ever.
>>77406114I appreciate the info you post anon
can ketoschizo post body already
>>77406151See: >>77405745
Ok guys, day 2 of kicking my fast food addictionFor dinner tonight, should I make a homemade burger with potato wedges or Korean-style ground turkey with white rice
rollcall, whos the fattest fatty of them all?
>>77406166Can't kick food addiction without kicking carbs.
>>77406166they have turkeys in korea?
After 3 years of OMAD I had three meals today. Weird to not feel hungry all the time for a change. Now I gotta figure out how to make those meals small enough to keep the calories low…
>>77406151Never ask him to post his hairline
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>>77405293why not spread out the burgers over a week?
>>77405293>6 burgersHow much do you weigh jesus
>>77406217Or just not eat thenSince you’re immediately going to have to uneat their calories anywayLike ppl who are gonna quit smoking “after this pack”Nah bruh just toss em
>>77406227fasting is hard and one can theoretically eat anything as long as the food is within his calories so why waste something he paid for?
help me im fat and retarded, is 1 pound pasta 1600cal uncooked going to be the same or less after its cooked.
>>77406237Because it’s corporate foodslop designed to suppress your natural hunger signals while being very calorie dense.
>>77406242can't he eat it with a boatload of potatoes?>>77405715depending on how fat you are, recomp is a pretty good option.
I'll focus on macros and recomp later, for now hitting the calories is good enough.>>77406240It's going to weight more due to water so x grams of uncooked pasta will have more calories than x grams of cooked pasta.
>>77405852good luck!
>>77406169Yeah, but that doesn't sound true, so it's probably not true>>77406171Well, it's really a Korean beef recipe I've co-opted for my ground turkey
>>77406263Sadly it's true. I wish carbs weren't addictive and fattening.
>>77406075Or I could just eat like normal and workout. I've been through the whole range of diets in the last month, every time I tried to do no carb my performance in everything dropped significantly. My last workout on keto I had to decrease weight by 25% and I could only manage 50% of the reps at best. That was only two days ago, last night and today I ate carbs and just did a workout where I'm back to like 95% of what I was doing before keto. I've tried running on keto before and my performance was like 10% of what it is on carbs.I get it takes a long time to adapt to using ketones for fuel, but holy shit I can't eat fucking avocados, cheese and chicken for a month straight to start seeing these benefits. And I was producing ketones, my pee tests clearly showed I was in ketosis.
>>77406169Fuck what was this doctor's name?
>lol I finished my workout today>normally I go to the gym as soon as it opens because I like it when it is nice and quiet>today I had to go in the afternoon because my train was like 6 hours late....>it was hilarious, zoomers and gen A, actually hugging machines for 30+ min to push zero weight for x amount of sets>basic bitches in skin tight gym gear doing random bodyweight/stretching on some mats for 1 hour>someone almost going to snap city by trying to deadlift, looked totally dyel but had lifting belt , handwraps, and knee sleeves>It was like one of those new year resolution cartoons
>>77406266I made the burger and wedges
>>77406290Carbs have no benefit for athleticism. You're not an athlete anyway. You're a fat person trying to lose weight.>>77406298Dr Nowzaradan
>>77406324I'm not surprised.
What did we eat today boys
Is this really how to spend your entire waking day ketoschizo? You've been doing this for almost a decade. Pathetic faggot.
>>77406290most people who attempt keto really do not understand just how much protein and fat they really need. like i hit plateaus week to week but my protein was too low to get the most out of gluconeogenesis and i simply wasn't eating enough fat. you think it's enough because fat is so satiating but you need to eat 2x that amount especially when you understand the kind of energy spikes you get from simple carbs. you can't match that on keto unfortunately but unless you're an athlete or running a fkn triathlon it's not necessary
>>77406290>>77406406also to add, a legit keto hack is MCT oil taken as a preworkout with whatever else you have. for me it was greek yogurt, vanilla whey powder, cottage cheese and a coffee. makes an enormous difference
>>77406384leftover bean soup
>>77406384bacon40% mf cream8% mf kefirsalmon with 40% mf creme fraiche
>>77406169"No carb" diets work in the exact same way as "no fat" diets and "don't eat the colour red" diets.It targets food addiction by limiting the types of food that you eat, which hopefully has the effect of slowing you down and encouraging you to think a little bit before shoving it in.Low carb diets are arguably healthier for low-activity people than low fat diets, but carbs are still an essential nutrient. I usually just tell people to time their carbs around their physical activity.This morning I had weet-bix and honey before my run, a carb drink during it, and then added a banana afterwards to my normal breakfast of chia pudding.But on days when I'm only lifting or not exercising at all, I'll just have my chia pudding, which is mostly fat.
>>77406406You also make glucose from the glyceride in triglycerides (fat). And drinking some vinegar is another way to get a good quick energy boost.Anyway fat people aren't eating carbs to support their athleticism. They're making excuses to indulge their carb addiction.
>>77406422Low-carb diets work. Low-fat diets don't.These diets are fundamentally different because of hormones (insulin).You're fat and you won't post body.
>>77406422>but carbs are still an essential nutrienti agree with the bulk of your post but this statement is factually incorrect. you can eliminate carbs completely and live a normal and healthy life (as far as we know. the studies on the effects of someone living until natural death on no carbs is limited), yet you cannot do the same with protein or fat.
>>77406426You're right, I won't post my body. But I'm somewhere around 15% BF, because I did a scan at 18% a while back and I'm a lot leaner now than I was then.Pic is my run today. Yes, I know I didn't REALLY need extra carbs during such a short run.
>>77406434dont dox yourself but where abouts in melbourne you run? im in the south east
>>77406434Ok fatso.
>>77406427>yet you cannot do the same with protein Huh, funny, there are 2 billion indians
>>77406434Anon if you ever post body ask him to post his hairline in exchange please
>>77406441and india is the diabetes capitol of the world. they have a fucking epidemic of poor health, you'd know this if you looked at the average indian.also, they do eat protein. lentils and all the other vegetable diarrhea slop has SOME proteins in it, enough to subsist on. which is why they look like they do, a dysgenic blob that just subsists
these cals burned numbers are completely made up right? im on week 2 of working out and decided to try to do day 1 of c25k after I finished lifting264lb 28m 6'0" if that matters
>>77406427This reminds me of a video I saw where some guy was claiming that he can live perfectly healthily and even run a marathon on a keto diet. He "proved" it by posting continuous glucose monitoring results, showing that they were "completely stable" during his marathon. But it was just flatlining at the lowest detectable level from the device lel>>77406463They're usually a combination of the amount of energy you burned during the exercise and the amount you would have burned just sitting around, which means they overestimate by quite a bit. And even the exercise calories are just a guess based on pace, duration, and maybe heart rate. At your level, I would just ignore them.
>>77406473You can win a Big10 decathlon on a zero carb diet.
>>77406474And yet you probably can't even jog a 5k.
I've been on a maintenance break for six weeks but apparently I've lost four or five pounds. I was eating 2550 calories so maybe my TDEE is higher than that? I don't know what my deficit should be . I just want like a 400 calorie deficit because I'm at the point where I'm going from 18% body fat to 12%.
>>77406480I'm not an athlete. I just stay lean by eating unlimited calories while avoiding carbs.It's delicious and easy. No hunger. No measuring my food. No logging it in a diary.
>>77406494are you working out? if you are losing weight on the scales you are in a deficit, its that simple. if your weight stays the same but your lifts are the same/minor improvements, you are recomping
>>77406422pretty much my mentality to it. only eat carbs prior to workout at 5am and avoid them otherwise.
>>77406510wont you just enter/leave ketosis constantly, getting keto fly symptoms over and over? can your body get used to knowing to expect carbs at certain times and adapt outside of it? seems like a rollercoaster of energy spikes
>>77406498Being able to maintain basic human functions doesn't make you an athlete. Please consider exercising, at least occasionally.
>>77406463560 calories would be like an hour and 15 minutes of running.>average heart rate 167bpm>peak heart rate over 180>walkingHow fat are you?
>>77406597>560 calories would be like an hour and 15 minutes of running.You mean walking right?
>>77406602For a normal person, no, 160bpm is hard running. Go look at >>77406127, dudes average while walking is 83bpm, thats normal.
>>77406597i literally posted my weight in the original postalso fitbit just logged it as walking, it was a mix of jogging and quick-walking
>>77406602No, I get around 500 calories for an hour of running. My heart rate during that time is similar to the pattern on his chart... except streched out 2x.
>>77406670>264lbsHoly shit, yeah 560 calories is probably real, I'm 6ft 165lbs for reference and 500cal takes me an hour.You're going to need new knees. And maybe a new heart if you took the vax.
>>77406675really glad i come to /fat/ asking for advice and all i get is some dude going "holy shit you're 264lbs? you're literally going to die"also my knees and heart feel absolutely fine, i didn't feel winded at all during that session
>>77406677Then your heart monitor is probably giving false readings, 160bpm you should basically be breathing so hard you cant string words together.~150 is about the threshold for conversation, and at that point youd be talking *pant* like *pant* this *pant*
>>77406677I've never been that heavy so I don't really know, my highest was 240lbs, but there does come a point where it's not safe for you to do stuff like that.And I'm not joking about the vax, the year after covid I thought my heart was going to pop when I went out for a run. It took me basically until now to recover and I still don't push as hard as I used to before.
>>77406683ive heard fitbits arent super accurate for heart stuff when you're mid-workout so probablyand as far as breathing i felt pretty normal, i was sweating but thats it
>>77406677Don't listen to them, everyone knows that you were obviously running to get your HR that high. And it isn't going to hurt your knees or your heart.>t. HR regularly goes above 190 during intervals
>>77406683>>77406687also i was mid peak-adderall when i was working out so that probably also heightened my heart rate
>>77406688That depends on your age, 190 might be ok for you young kids, but once you start getting near middle age that is too high.>>77406687>and as far as breathing i felt pretty normalThen you weren't running and your fitbit is grosly overestimating calories.
>>77406695>Too highThere is literally no such thing. If you run too fast and your HR gets too high, your heart doesn't explode. You just start involuntarily slowing down. I'm 32 by the way, I'm not "you young kids".
>>77406687Sounds closer to zone 1/2, for your age that'd be like 95~120ish bpm
>>77406703i doubt it's that off, i checked the treadmill HR thing a few times mid-jog and it was also giving me like a 170 number
>>77406709Heart rate and respiratory rate are usually linked, sure it can be off by a little, but if youre not breathless at 160+bpm, at your age, that sounds wrong. What's your resting heart rate?
>>77406718sleeping its ~64bpm, at home its about 71, at the office its around 80
As of today, I'm on a 9 day calorie counting streak. None of those days was I below my target calorie limit for -1.5lb/week fat loss, but I was under maintenance for all those days, at least by a little, plus I've walked at least two miles a day every day so far this month. I've tried more drastic weight loss attempts (OMAD, intermittent fasting, heavier calorie restrictions, etc) but I just didn't have the willpower. It's almost hard to believe that even if it takes a long time, if I keep this up long term, I'll eventually be a normal weight again.
>>77406718Based on how often he was starting and stopping on that graph >>77406463 it's possible he never got a chance to go into aerobic mode. Still those readings seem suspect to me. I know when I try to run after a night of drinking my heart rate spikes immediately before my respiratory system can respond, but I also feel like I have no energy and have to drop to walking immediately, and repeat over and over again.
Do you guys track your weight regularly? Is it even that important to do so?Is it that hard to tell if what you're eating is making you gain or lose weight?
Finally sub-260. Actually kept to my diet and did all my workouts/walks last week. The light is getting brighter.WAGMI
>>77406761Tracking weight is not particularly useful. I almost never weigh myself. Waist size is more meaningful but even that is not needed.
>>77406754>it's possible he never got a chance to go into aerobic mode. probably i didnt, c25k day 1 is just 5 minute warmup, 1 minute jog into a 1:30 minute walk x8, and then a 5 minute cooldown
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>>77406217Because that delays the keto ball rolling.>>77406225130kg last time I weighed, I sincerely hope it isn't over 140 now.
>>77406761i was tracking my weight until i got to my target, but the frequency changed from every day (this was detrimental honestly) to once every few days to once a week. I dont even check it anymore now, i just track my gym gains
How do i starve myself as a truck driver?Changing a job isn’t really an option cause it’s my truck and trailer and it’s like 3-4k a week and i’m my own boss so i’m kinda stuck with it.I wanna be at 155 lbs, 6’2ish and i’m probably in a skinnyfat 198-199lbs territory atm.I can track calories and try to eat clean but it’s super hard to stick to it on the road with no cooking and most places being fastfood goyslop.But the real problem is that driving for 10+ hours daily drains you physically and mentally without burning any calories, you gotta eat to keep the energy up or you straight up just start falling asleep, plus it gets boring after a bit and you get addicted to the dopamine hit of the junkfood.Are there any tricks to force yourself to starve? I need to eat like 1200 calories a day for half a year ideally and stick to a strict diet after that, but fuck me it is hard to keep it up for long periods of time.Give me your best anorexic mind tricks.
>>77406761ye I weigh myself every day, every week I take a picture of myself and write down my weight, just to see my progress, helps me being locked in and motivated since I want to see numbers go down and want to see improvements in the pictures
>>77406846Methamphetamine
Ex-ham dropping a friendly reminder ITT for swim season that abs are more about muscle size than ultra-low fat; they can be visible in the low double digit bodyfat range which is healthy, but cutting down to the low single digit range isn't and you should be bulking instead then.
>>77406761I do it everyday to remind myself to not overeat.It's more of a mentality thing for me.Otherwise, I only track once a week.
>>77406852I ain’t got plugs like that.
>>77406872The onions + postal service is the largest plug in the world. I was joking though, meth will ruin you. It almost ruined me.
>>77406463brother that heart rate is whack. im twice as heavy as you and average 103
>hour 10 of 12 hour fasti want to eat all of the food
after I lost 60 pounds I've had more success on dating apps than previously (anything more than 0 is a success). but now I realize the game really just started. I've been waiting for this girl that's completely my type to respond to my text and she still hasn't for over 24 hrs, I think it's over. time to throw in another 15 pushups and 300 extra deficit tomorrow
>minute 3 of 15 minute fast>failedaw man...
>>77404296reposting until it is added to the OP/fat/bros, i think Vitamin D supplementation actually reduces hunger. i'm very deficient in it and us fatties are most likely deficient too because the fat we have steals it.i've been easily maintaining less than 1500 calories for the past month when i started taking Vitamin D. the HUNGER i've been suffering from for months is gone even on a high carb low protein diet. i've averaged 166g carbs, 47g protein, and 63g fat in the past month.please add this to the OP. this is a piss easy way to help with hunger.hunger associated with Vitamin D deficiency>Appetite disturbances were significantly associated with increased odds of Vitamin D deficiency, even after controlling for depression and other confounders. However, due to the cross-sectional design, causality cannot be inferred. Prospective studies are needed to clarify this association's directionality and underlying mechanisms.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1499404625002660Vitamin D helping in weight loss>After using vit D supplementation for 6 weeks, WT (weight), WC (waist circumference), and body mass index (BMI) were decreased significantly and serum vit D increased significantly compared to control grouphttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6071442/us fatties having lower vitamin D>High prevalence of vitamin D (VD) deficiency in obese subjects is a well-documented finding, most probably due to volumetric dilution into the greater volumes of fat, serum, liver, and muscle, even though other mechanisms could not completely be excluded, as they may contribute concurrentlyhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6780345/
>>77406960>Supplement company funds research that says you should take 10x more of their supplementsRiiiight.
>>77406970Believe it or not, lots of research at high risk for bias like that has had its results repeated by non-manufacturer-sponsored studies later.Lots of supplements being scams doesn't make them ALL scams, but there is really a major difference between D2 and D3 with the former being legit toxic and the later only toxic at very high doses, especially when other vitamins/minerals are deficient.
>>77406970if it works, it works. if you can stick to your diet easily enough, you don't have to supplement Vitamin D.but it made night and day difference for me. my past month is sitting at 1296 calories instead of 1407 since i've been maintaining even lower with ease. this week is sitting at 1100 so far.
holy fuck the keto spergout just destroys this generali'm out
>>77406977>if you can stick to your diet easily enough, you don't have to supplement Vitamin D.If your diet has a decent bit of vitamin D fortified foods and/or a lot of salmon plus mushrooms yeah, but most people tend to be a ways off optimal levels when they get blood tested, it's a very common deficiency.
>>77406982>it's a very common deficiencyexactly. especially in us fatties. this is why this needs to be in the OP.
>>77406506>if you are losing weight on the scales you are in a deficitexplain why my number on the scale hasn't moved a single point while fasting for the last 16 days out of 21 and eating at maintenance on the days i eat then
>>77406960First study directly says it cannot be used to establish causality. Second has a small sample size (26 intervention and 27 control). Additionally, no controlled diet. Food records are hideously unreliable for studies.Third study is the same as the first, it only establishes there MIGHT be a casual relationship between vitamin D and obesity.The evidence of a casual relationship just isn't there. Note: I do think you should supplement vitamin d if you're deficient. Usually, thats when the UV index is low because you fatties should go outside and walk anyways. This is just to prevent a deficiency because a vitamin d deficiency does produce modest health negatives.
>>77407003If your refeed days have a lot of carbs, glycogen is a likely reason. Fasting is very physiologically stressful, so you likely have increased hormones like cortisol that increases water retention.
>>77406846can't you access baked, boiled, or microwaved potatoes?potatoes have like 88 calories in 100 grams. diet sodas don't keep you awake while driving?>6’2ish and i’m probably in a skinnyfat 198-199lbs you just need to lift and maximize protein at TDEE. an anon once posted several videos of himself being shredded at around 6'1" and 190-195 pounds. no need for any potatoes or special diets.
>>77407008i keep carbs at minimum like 2 slices of bread at most. i mostly eat lots of meat, veggies and some cheese though. how long can this stupid stage last though? it's really discouraging me to even keep going if in another week i won't see any drop
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>>77405988what app is thati just use google sheets and update it once a weekbeen thinking a scale that updates your weight would be nice though
any fatties here who had loose skin and managed the issue without drastic measures i really just want to be normal at least once in my life, people who raise obese children shouldn't have right to call themselves parents
Another day another fight against CarlsWe shall be victorious
>>77405449>me: no I just eat it normal>eat it normalI steam it or eat it raw. Would have been a more personable and standard way to speak.And yes, smiling at customers is a standard accepted behaviour in customer service in some countries. Getting used to smiling at people and being smiled at in the common and expected situations is a good idea.You don't have to worry about it being "weird" or awkward. Chances is that worker won't remember and or had a ton of rude people that stick with her more in her mind.It's really not that big of a deal anon, you're OK.>>77406932hope u made it anon
First day at the gym for a great while and I faint>FML>maybe its not worth continuing >everyone seemed concerned and supportive I guess
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I just fucking scoffed a large Zinger Box, an original Twister and a double choc mousse. I hate myself like you wouldn't believe.
Im gonna do a super aggressive cut for 14 days, gonna eat around 1000 calories a day.My plan is:Meat balls 400 cal Yogurt and blue berries 200 calEgg 70 cal2 protein shakes 250calGreenveggie shake 15 caloriesCarrot 40 calKiwi 45 calIts about 140g of protein too. Also having potassium, omega3 and magnesium supplements.if I get hungry at night I'll just have carrots or veggies and diet soda. Carrots fill me up a lot and they're low calories. At most I'll add 2 or 3 carrots which is like 100 calories and still very little.I also plan to get 10k steps a day and hit the gym 3-4 days a week.Please root for me anons!
>>77407278Try vomiting.Put your face near the toilet bowl and think about shit and gross things.
>>77407284Also im making the meatballs by hand with chicken mince
how am i supposed to deal with slowing progress without cutting even more calories or exhausting myself with exercise. I lift 3 times a week, do cardio 4 times a week and I'm already on a very strict deficit of 1400kcal. Progress hasn't stopped completely, it's not really a plateau, im just unhappy with the weight loss amount I'm only losing about 5 lbs a month now and its not enough
I hate weight loss. I keep fucking stalling for no reason. My least favorite part about weight loss. Seriously obnoxious
>>77407278just walk it offwhen you walk 20km every day you grow the idea that maybe chugging your face full of sugar isnt such a good idea since you start to value the kcal intake since 300cal = hour of your life suddenly
>>77407284i've been doing 1k calories a day for a month nowit's easiest when you eat something for breakfast, i usually eat slife of dark break and berries with fat free milk and for lunch i usually eat pasta/ride with sauteed onions and chicken that's been flavored with chili flakes. Avoid salt or keep it under 5 grams a day, you'll feel betteerthen you just fast next 16~20 hours, it's pretty miserable first week or two, eat cucumber if you must
tried going to the gym after work instead of the morning and i kept waking up like 30 times throughout the night, is there a fix for that aside from just going in the morning again?
>>77407386melatonin
>>77407003>>77407019Gaining muscle and losing body fat.Measure waist size if you need to measure something.
>>77407074Eat an unlimited calorie carnivore diet and you won't get loose skin.
I sinned. Ate a big fried rice and karaage and a fucking ice cream. I'm so exhausted man
>>77407007my anecdote says otherwise
>>77407387i took 1mg of melatonin last night and it still was like thatcan exercising at 5pm affect 10pm sleep?
>>77407160:(take care of your health anon and be careful>>774072841k is easy for me, but no gym. with gym sounds rough.if you're going to be lifting etc. just be careful and eat wisely/timely so you don't get faint etc.>>77407318agreed>>77407074it depends on your genetics, how long you carried the weight around and your age.you should aim for your goal weight, wait a year or so after then consider skin removal surgery if you still feel you want or need it.if you have enough where it's getting in the way of your exercise and becoming damaged (potential for infections) then you'd want to get it taken care of earlier.>>77407399>rice>fry chicken>ice creamoofeat super clean and on mark for the rest of the week anon, do some more walking/swimming etc.you'll be OK
>>77407407magnesium glycinate 1-3 hours before sleep could also be very high blood pressure that's fucking you up (srsly go get it checked if you dont havent past 5 years) i got tons of problems because of high blood pressure that was left unsolved for years and they are lifelong for me
>>77406821I have finished eating the 6 cheeseburgers.
You mongs don't realize it. But the keto schizo is some dude that really hates fatsos, and made it his purpose to psyop you into the meme diet to make you suffer.
Any one else getting lonelier as more as you progress? I am almost at my goal weight of 80kg (right now 81.3kgs), but I might need to go lower. But I don't want to talk or interact with other people anymore
>>77407440Anyone who hates fatsos tells them to eat a low-fat diet and count calories.
>be like 157kg>drop 50kg>put it back on over the next 5 years>get back to 152kg>lose 25kg>put back on 15kg>lose 35kg>put back on at least 25kgI have no idea what I'm back up to, but by how I'm fitting in clothes it's pretty grim.I'm hoping to turn it around over the rest of this year.
>>77407395You're doing good work, man. Ignore the haters. Just remember that the bread industry is worth like $250b globally.
>>77407500Because I've put so much back on in such a short time I'm hoping that it'll come off easier than before.
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>>77407457isn't keto for the truly massive fatsos? if you're 300lb does it really matter if you eat a 2k cal pizza OMAD or nothing but bacon?
>>77407531keto lifestyle doesnt really workif fatsos dont have the willpower not to eat candies and 2 pizza a day they're not going to handle 0 carbs either since that requires way more willpower than actually not chugging 2 persons worth of sugar daily
>>77407531Anyone who is trying to lose body fat should primarily do it through carb reduction. Even if you don't need to go ketogenic it is thoroughly proven that you will have better weight loss results by lowering carbs.Unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricting calories with carbs.>>77407548Quitting smoking works better than tracking your cigarettes in a diary and trying to have only 1 or 2 a day.
>>77407563anecdotally fasting is much easier on a high fat low carb diet, when i eat more carbs i get hungry fast, headaches and i get slightly dizzy and irritable
>been stalled>bout to cut my calories to 1600pain.
>>77407407>can exercising at 5pm affect 10pm sleep?I noticed that I sleep like dogshit when I go for a run in the afternoon.
I think I'm back on OMAD.It just kinda works.
The keto diet starts now.Starting with an old staple of mine, a burger patty with cheese and bacon on a bed of baby spinach, pickles and mayo
why are keto memers never listing healthy fatty food like greek yoghurts and olive oils and nuts and fish its always just bacon fried in mayo fried in butter fried in oil with queso on top and dont forget the mayo
>>77407675Because mayo is just about the healthiest thing you can eat. It's all HDL so it cleans your arteries.
>>77407393what muscle? i'm fasting and not exercising. plus my stomach feels bloated af even after a 3 day fast with just water idk what's happening
>>77407666Based.
>>77407694Male hormones cause muscle growth.
>>77407675BRO YOU DONT GET IT BRO YOU CAN LITERALLY EAT ALL THE BACON AND CHEESE YOU WANT BRO I EAT BACON AND CHEESE I WONT BE FAT IF I EAT BACON AND CHEESE
>>77407666let us know how it goes satan
>>77407571Same.There's just metabolic changes that come with keto that CICOtics refuse to accept.
>>77407725What are you so upset about?I hope you succeed at weight loss even if you choose a strategy that doesn't work (cico).
>>77407725The thing with keto is after the first week you don't want to anymore. You barely want to eat at all actually. So you can just go hog wild in that first week, and from then on just follow your gut and the weight will slough off at a speed you refuse to believe.
>>77407819ah yes the sign of any healthy diet, making you lose all desire to consume food for energy.
>>77407725Are you literally that professor or whatever who lost weight eating only Twinkies and you're just incredibly upset that you tortured yourself for months and ketochads stay winning?
Anon, I want to start yoga are there any /fit/ approved guide for it? Thanks
>>77407822When you're doing keto your body can use body fat for energy.The reason you're so hungry all the time on carbs is because insulin blocks fat burning.
>>77407824The twinkie diet shill was a paid Coca-Cola marketer. He was probably just lying. There's no evidence he ate what he said or that he lost any weight at all.
>>77407831I just did this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdjRQ6GG8bAI'm 135kg and in a lot of pain.
>cooking with jack eats ketothis is all i needed to know, imagine doing the same diet as that retard thats had 2 strokes.
My abs are finally starting to show bros. Does anyone know what the deal with pic related is? One of the guys I play soccer with recommended it to me to improve recovery and get more energy. Will it make me fat again and kill all gains?
>herp derp I'm eating keto, look at me!
>check thread>still keto shitflinging and anons taking keto shills baitSo these threads are useless now
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>>77407887It makes you look puffy like you got a pump if you eat carbs, I don't know about the rest.
Once a week I buy 1.5 liter of zero sugar popCaffeine free. Usually lemon or orangeI know I should just stick to good ol' wa'aa
I am a proponent of the benefits of keto, but I will say that I know for a fact a lot of the declared early week miracle weight loss is purely water weight, which is good anyway because you immediately appear less bloated. If you have like a wedding coming up and you wanna shed like a size in a month, keto is a great way to do it.
>>77408105I drink between 6 and 15L of diet soda a day.
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>>77408121Your bait needs work. I drink 7 or 8 2Ls of diet soda a week, the cheap store brand $1 bottles. Shit is great.
>feeling defeated >defacto a NEET>just lay in bed all day>don't have the willpower to do anything, including eatingI mean I'm still losing weight at least but I genuinely feel like doing nothing, planned to practice drawing but I just can't do it, I wanted to do some cardio but it started raining hard so I didn't go, I'm contemplating SSRI's, but I don't think it's a good idea in the long-term or short-term at all
>>77408133I wish I was baiting. I use a SodaStream, and get the Pepsi Max syrups. I'll go through a cylinder of gas and 7 of the syrups in about 5/6 days. If I'm really busy in a day it'll be lower, but I'll drink loads at night. If I'm hone all day just gaming i will easily drink well into the teen litres.
>>77408144Get medical weed and vapourise it medicinally. I just got a job after being in a hole for months.
>>77408145all that liquid can't be good for your kidneys
>>77408161I worry about the artificial sweeteners and dyes more than the volume. It's amazing i don't have kidney stones
watching 600lbs life is funny cause often the family members are extremely obese too but mobile and talk about the 600lbs person that they use food for comfort etc.
I gotta say, adding avocados to my diet has given me some of the cleanest shits I've ever had in my life. It's like fat and fiber were meant to work together.
My 50 year old mother is fixing her diet so I don’t have to meal prep at all. Take that normgroids :)
>>77407882>>77407891Jack from "Cooking with Jack" eats vegetarian, actually.Remember to stay carnivore and stay healthy /fat/ friends.
>>77408174I like it when people succeed. You can tell if they will make their weigh-in based entirely on whether they follow the low carb advice. The ones who eat carbs never make it.
>>77408145get a proper CO2 cylinder and the adapter cable and save tons
>>77406256A red day of shame.Unrelated, but today i noticed I was shitting black and freaked out until I remembered I'm taking iron supplements.
am I the only whale here to never drink soda as a kid? or have had an addiction to it? all I drank was lemon water, milk or gatorade during sports practice
>>77408274Soda does seem to be a common treat, even my dad had it as a kid in the 50s and 60s and they were poor. Still I didn't grow up fat because I had some soda on the weekends, it was the raw amount of food I shovelled into my face that did it. Never went to McDonalds, only ate cake on birthdays etc.
>lunch time>want to go out for a walk>live in shithole south>it's 100 degrees outsideI HATE SUMMER I HATE SUMMER I HATE SUMMER I HATE SUMMER I HATE SUMMER I HATE SUMMER I HATE SUMMER
>>77408293yeah, cake was a rarity I wasn't a confectionery fiend for soft drinks or generic candy but my family hoarded a lot of other junkfood my fatass zoned in on (doritos, jax, goldfish, peanut butter crackers, entire freezer full of pizza etc) and mountains of bulk-bought shelved carbs. them constantly ordering out every other night definitely got the wrong ball rolling at a young age too, I developed the habit of stuffing my face out of boredom because there wasn't much to do where I lived. fill up a tubberware container full of slop go game or binge a show.
Anyone else tried eating once every 48 hours? I'm currently on day 15 and my energy levels on the second day went from feeling exhausted to ~70% normal.I think another week or two and my body will get used to the cycle. The only reason I'm doing it this way is because of a lower willpower requirement. Once I actually start eating I find it really difficult to stop before I'm fully satiated and If I do force myself to moderate my portion in any reasonable capacity I'm left feeling irritated and distracted for the rest of the day. So instead of eating 1300 kcal meal every day I eat 2600 kcal meal every other day. After having the huge dinner I feel great and happy pretty much untill the ending of the following day, but by that point I'm already falling asleep and stores are closed - so all I have to power through is the day shift with the knowledge that as soon as I finish my work I get to eat like a king. Dunno works for now, will update in a week
>>77408463I did that years ago. Eat every other day. Worked pretty well until I stopped doing it desu. Helped me with resetting my hunger levels.It can just all go to shit when social elements come into play.
Fatty ContestKenloBorther199.7lbssuck a dick hatersUltimately the key was slow and steady. The longer I stayed on a smaller calorie deficit and the longer I did consistent short workouts the better. I also noticed a significant loss after going on CPAP and another after cutting seed oils. I know the latter is a bit of a meme but I found it helped a lot. This will be my last post. You shitheads won't be missed. Die in a fire.
>>77408483you will gain it back and come crawling back begging for help like the rest
>>77408463Fasting works great. Even better if you avoid carbs when eating.
>>77408463fasting is a poor mans weight cycling
ive only been working out for a week and i already feel better about myself and proud im making a changetypically how long is it before you start seeing significant changes to your body? im at a -500 to -750 diet and im taking creatine alongside strength training
>>77407003maybe you should get the hint and stop doing retarded shit that stresses your body so much for no reason whatsoever.
>>77408597don't even bother looking for change until 6 months
>>77408635thats fine, ill just lock ini should at the very least experience some sort of internal health benefits before that right? i.e. lower heart rate, better erections, etc
what skinny activities do you want to do when you're out out of grind? I want to go cave diving
>>77408686Dressing up in cool clothes I always wanted to wear and cosplay too
>invited to slop>easily 2000 calories>still hungryeating slop after a strict diet of mostly microwaved potatoes is an eye opener on how unfulfilling slop is.anyway, my week deficit is ruined most likely.
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what are the chicken mince slop bowls that i can subsist on for monthsi'm sick of chili con carne
>>77408597If you're skinnyfat you'll start seeing changes in your arms and shoulders immediately. The scale is not going to change though.
Finally back home from holiday. Installed Lose It and will keep to this diet. Hoping to see some change! finally getting serious about this
>>77406322A fat person dunking on people trying to genuinely improve themselves is not a good look.
