If your locale allows you to conceal carry a firearm then do that as that is the absolute best option

“Street fights” can be avoided near entirely if you stay out of public drink and drug use. If you are determined to have brawls in the streets remember that people who do that have absolutely nothing to lose and will not hesitate to run you over with a car or stab you or stick you with a needle. If you do want to fight people in public then a combination of boxing and wrestling will see you right but you can literally avoid them altogether if you have any sense

There's a very wide range between say, someone aggressively pointing a finger towards your chest and a full street fight, and almost all scenarios where you might have to use or appear to be ready to use physical force will be be between them. You almost certainly won't be in a 100% fistfight with some random evenly physically matched stranger, unless like >>77404353 you hang out with really bad people, but there are plenty of circumstances where knowing how to block a punch, restrain or move someone, etc would be helpful, depending it might actually lessen the amount of force you have to use and keep you from getting in legal trouble, like for example if a physically inferior (female, older, w/e) person threatens you with a knife, or a guy you're around is drunk and retarded and getting aggressive but you know they're not actually dangerous. These have all happened to me personally lol. It's just sensible to know some fundamentals of boxing, basic jujitsu holds and similar imo, people who say hurr you'll never use it irl have a videogame/movie mentality and don't understand the messiness of the real world

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>>77404332
Not useless but not as useful as it used to be. Most of the people looking for a fight aren't looking for a fair one which is why they're always in groups.

Jesus Christ just go to a gym and workout for a month, who fucking cares, you're not confrontational enough to get into a fight anyway.

>>77404432
And by gym I mean boxing gym.

>>77404432
>you're not confrontational enough to get into a fight anyway.
oh I definitely am lol and it's to my detriment I'm not saying this to sound tough

>>77404332
Why are linking a video to literal psychopath who paid someone else to try and kill his child? Shut the fuck up, faggot.

>>77404444
I'm more interested in what he has to say about combat sports rather than his personal life, but thanks for virtue signalling what a heckin' decent human being you are on an anonymous imageboard where nobody cares, retard.

>>77404451
if you're going to take general practical advice from someone it does make sense to consider how their personal life is

also I'm banned from chatting/commenting on that guys channel for, among other things, making fun of his gf playing jigaboo music when he was livestreaming them in a car (with her driving lol)

There's a sense in which learning martial arts FOR "da streets" is an affectation (or LARP, as the kids say) and that is because If you live in a developed country you are very unlikely to ever be attacked without provocation, and if you were actually serious about "da streets" you'd just carry a weapon. Which is what they do in places where attacks are a daily reality - they don't spend 10 years mastering Muay Thai and wrestling. They carry a knife or a gun or even a piece of rebar.

So, what the motivation actually comes down to, despite what retards will claim, is wanting to be able to dominate other men in social violence. That is, some guy challenges you, you challenge him, you have a little scrap and one of you retards ends up in hospital and the other in the watch house with a court date. And no matter what anyone says, nearly all of these situations require your voluntary participation, and can be avoided just by swallowing your ego. I'm not advocating here - I agree some people need to get a beat down, I'm just pointing out "self defense" is largely imaginary in developed countries. Fighting is also an underclass thing. You think you're a cool tough guy but to anyone from the upper class you're not far removed from a nigger.

Anyway, learning to fight in a legally sound manner these days typically requires participating in a combat sport. So first and foremost you should actually *enjoy* and be interested in the sport for its own sake, not for the goal of being the toughest monkey in the Walmart parking lot. If you just want to "defend" yourself, carry a weapon and be prepared to use it.

>>77404353
>“Street fights” can be avoided near entirely if you stay out of public drink and drug use.
Only in the US: In Europe, they are not avoidable 100%, even if you are a NEET who never goes outside.

t. got jumped by my 6'5, 400 lbs neighbor

All martial arts are useless in a street fight, except Aikido.

>>77404848
2, 4 and 6.

>>77404332
You have to be in kicking range to box, boxing range to wrestle, etc. I prefer to train striking to fight multiple people or at least be able to finish someone off quickly enough to check for a third party. Irl you don't get wraps and big gloves that make blocking much more effective. Irl 150lb boxers win every street fight with maybe the exception of a wrestler assuming they know mma while the boxer is a simpleton.

>>77404432
"Workout" is not a verb you brown idiot

>>77404332
Being trained in any combat sport will have real world application, but only to some extent. Punching a bag a couple times a week doesn't mean you will win. Brawls and streetfights don't have rules. Sometimes brute force wins over technique, sometimes vice versa.

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>>77404332
I've asked this question multiple times and never gotten a satisfactory response: why does ANYONE take Goatis seriously?

>>77404332
>Uh doing this thing is for losers because it wont work in a fight
Then get a gun nigga. That is all that matters. Retarded

>>77405085
No one gives a fuck, pussy.

>>77404451
>I'm more interested in what he has to say about combat sports rather than his personal life
doesn't he advocate for bites, teeth and nails and eye poking and nut kicking? thats just some bullshido shit that they teach you at krav maga. do you really think a trained fighter can't do those more effectively?

do fucking try biting a judoka who fucking broke your back on concrete or try poking someones eye out as they punch/elbow strike your lights out.

fucking retard, morons like you are why most people are overconfident about street fights and get themselves killed

>>77405221
furthermore, the best course is to not get into a street fight. if thats not possible, flee. if thats also not viable if you have to protect your loved ones, then you fight as a last resort

>>77405210
You're gay and retarded.

>>77404332
“everyone has a plan until they’re punched in the face” is PAINFULLY true.

>>77404475
Oh look it's another overcivilized Timmy whitoid who's prosocial despite his society being against him.
>violence is... le bad!
Ok faggot

point to a single formidable opponent goatis has beaten with his methods not counting his ex girlfriends or domesticated farm animals. I'll wait. Some retards really take his advice for combat sports for some reason

>>77405228
There's no reason behind it except that he is a very old, popular influencer
>ex girlfriends or domesticated farn animals
Shame about the farm animals.

>>77405223
It's better to kys than to live with this mentality though.

>>77405236
have you ever been in a street fight or even seen one in real life?

>>77405240
Yes and yes

>>77405242
then you are either lying, very lucky, extremely retarded or live in a very safe place if you think that street fights are worth fighting for. Beating literal trash has no honour nor does getting shanked by an insect

>>77405244
which is why you don't see trained fighters getting into street fights often. fucking morons try to prove themselves by chimping out at the streets whereas really capable people know their worth

>>77405244
Like I said, you're a pussy dweeb so obviously you won't understand that it has inherent value.
>Retarded
Yeah I know this game, now you will pretend thus is reddit and pivot to virtue signaling about being muh civilized and muh prosocial and being above physical violence. Pussy

>>77405247
Oh look it's another pussy.
Any fucking mma place I've ever been, like a quarter of the guys are dealing drugs, bouncing, leading a party lifestyle etc. They've often been using violence offensively, (muh self-defence is another gay white pussy nerd meme). Another 25% have likely been in fights situational or defensively.
Go outside, touch grass, stop basing your reality on your chink cartoons idiot

>>77405248
>>77405257
someones hurt huh? what happened? bashed the illusion that you two are so tough? you retards are crying over some rando who called your bullshit out, and you think that others thing that you are tough? give me a fucking break, I never said that violence had no value. Its just that my life isn't worth losing over some fucking moron cussing at me. You two are vermin and you'll get shanked sooner or later at an alleway, and die like one if you aren't larping. and for that I'd say good riddance

>>77405265
Ok pussy, great cope

>>77405265

>Its just that my life isn't worth losing over some

Ironically, this attitude reduces your worth.

try explaining difference between the aristocratic virtue of violence stemming from mastery and excelenne from violence stemming from resentment and herd morality to literal retards. you morons think too much about what other people think of you

>>77405273
your metric of worth is reactive which is feminine by default. try harder retard. if you really think that a chimp calling you a faggot reduces your self worth you should really work towards your self esteem

>>77405283
>more pussy cope
Ok, enjoy your lifetime of being a pussy

>>77405283
of course this does not mean that you can't defend yourself, once its on its on and everything is on the table

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>been trying to talk sense to illiterate morons whose vocabulary consists of cope and pussy
dionysos, i've failed you

>>77405289
>pussy nerd mentality
>muh "self-defence" meme

>ITT: Literal niggers

>>77405294
Why would I want to listen to a coping pussy when it comes to this topic?

>>77405297
Niggers are superior to some timid pussy though.

>>77404332
Yes, if you ever end up in a self-defense situation you should be shooting or if europoor stabbing your attacker.
Best defense is avoiding ending up in those situations in the first place.

>>77404451
No you made some bs passive aggressive thread with a faggot topic cause you want anons to click on your goatpiss video. Shut the fuck up, the age of manipulation is over. Go be a faggot somewhere else.

>>77405381
Fk u

niggas whose entire daily routine is 4chan - gym - 4chan are always worried about street fights when they dont say a word to anybody every single day

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>>77404332
>would it be better if....
>implying the other person doesnt do the same
The actual answer is that self defense at every level is important. Whether its hand to hand or weapon against weapon. Saying you dont need it ever is retarded

>>77405694
If you don't like 4chan, feel free to leave

>>77404848
2 > 3 > 1 > 4 > 5 > 6

>>77404848
1,2,3

I will never understand why this board obsesses over the most retarded youtubers they can find. He's not even trying to hide his stupidity because pseudo science or appeals to authority. It's just pure bullshit.

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>>77404332
Why does every discussion of self defense and street fights on this website devolve into retarded shit flinging?

>>77404332
>no training from a young age
Lol suck it faggot

>>77404332
Well you have to get your gun out of your purse first you retarded fag nigger. What're you gonna do only point your gun at the person way bigger, stronger, and classier than you lol.

>>77405770
Because it automatically breaks up into several distinct psychological types who are hostile to each other.
Prosocial vs antisocial, youthful vs senescent, lawful vs lawless.
Basically this discussion sets off an archetypal conflict, that's why the tone is so hostile.

>>77404332
Wait a second, isn't this the retard that started promoting eating raw liver and raw milk?
He's giving HIS two cents on martial arts.... Because..?

>>77404332
>would you be better off carrying a weapon
This is bait. You're not gonna make it in time or gonna get screwed by law otherwise. Your best bet in any physical conflict IRL is to run immidiately or fight like hell and then run even faster.

itt: pussies

>>77404848
All fine but 6

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the more you learn how to fight the less you actually want to do it.
streets fights happen when two niggers with no emotional outlets meet

>>77405169
Because he's good looking. Quite obvious if he wasn't handsome nobody would listen to a word he says

>entire daily routine is 4chan - gym - 4chan
KEK this is me!

>>77405773
ok manlet

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>>77405770
this is why I hate this place. it's the only place left online to have PROPER, uncensored discussions without normie input, but the only people here really are
>angry maladjusted outcasts who literally cannot converse without their bitterness making them confrontational who in real life would just rock back and forth angrily or start crying if confronted
>stupid fat americans repeating MUH GUN whose only experience with violence is blacks who skip fisticuffs and just pull glocks out over any percieved slight
and
>cowardly "fighting is for blacks and poors" smug fat fucks who think that never leaving the house makes them better than everyone else because they'll never encounter violence

it'd be great to discuss this shit without those retards, because it is multi-faceted. not all violence is "12 homicidal crackheads want my phone" life or death struggles. for that I carry a blunt object in my bag.
no, sometimes it's the boomer who thinks you stole his parking space, or you're walking home from work late at night and some drunk fucks' sportsball team lost and want to punch something, or you're out with a chick and some fag is considering asking for her number in front of you, or some fag's kid pushes your kid at the playground and the dad needs a stern word.
if you're physically fit and very confident that you can throw a decent kick or punch, then you'll do well in those situations. 99% of the time your confidence alone will have the other guy back down, but if he throws the first punch, you'll definitely throw the last.

but those things involve a level of socialisation, which isn't common on 4chan.

>>77408214
yeah, basically this. the discussion boils down to either always flee or become an antisocial cunt. I kinda blame myself too due to >>77405223 being unclear about the situation. I was talking about mugging by several cunts wielding weapons, I should've been more clear.

God knows how many times I wanted to break some retarded gypsy's skull open for coming close to me at the park. Sadly, self defense laws in my country are so fucked up that you can't even kill a home intruder if he does not come inside your bedroom. I think this also had an impact on the scenarios I had in mind.

But yeah, violence as long as it ain't senseless or performative is a great tool. Sad that we live in such a clown world though, beating that gypsy cunt's lights out would feel cathartic but what can you do. Not to mention that the vermin in my country are pretty organized too. Literally anarcho-tyranny.

>>77408261
at least in my country people who like to pick fights carry all sorts of weapons and they NEVER walk alone. You could literally snap one in half but when they walk with at least 5 people minimum it becomes a crowding problem and frankly I dont want to lose my life over some fucking shitskins

>>77404451
No thanks I don't take advice from PDFs and child killers I'd rather fuck his ass til he dies while reciting the entirety of "ride the tiger" from Julius evola

>>77404473
>man made car instead of walking on all fours
ngmi

>>77405244
Exactly, people get into those kinds of conflicts out of necessity if you can avoid crack heads and retards and street people get the fuck away from them

>>77408276
>No thanks I don't take advice from PDFs and child killers
what the fuck what have I missed

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A few inches of steel will erase decades of "martial arts" experience since one small puncture is enough.

>>77408291
a Turkish captain of SAT -Think of em like Turkish Seals- was stabbed in the heart by a fucking glue addict retard back in 2003. People who think like you are the reason why decent people are discouraged to pick fights which is the reason why fucking gypsies and shitskins rule the streets in most cities

>>77408291
mods please ban this dyel

unarmed combat used to be such a gentlemanly thing.
>two men would disagree, decide the only satisfying outcome would be cathartic unarmed combat
>go outside, fisticuffs ensue
>a clear victor emerges or a draw is declared
>the catharsis dissolved all tension
>the impressive display of courage and strength often developed trust between the men and would often lead to friendship
this happened to me all the time as a kid.
you and another kid would batter the shit out of each other, gain each other's mutual respect and end up friends.
now faggots like >>77408291 just want to pull a knife and win no matter what for izzat.
leave subworlders to ruin even violence.

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>>77408291
Never forget

>>77408291

You're a shit-eating pajeet. Die

>>77404332
Yes, its good for reflexes and overall wellbeing.
Even if you carry a gun which is the ultimate martial art, its often good to have confidence to KO some loudmouth (usially also amateur boxer).
I have shot a dude in stomach once when he tried to attack me but otherwise i have dealt with all problems without any weapons. Id say strong wrestling will trump 99% street encounters. Just drop them head first to the ground.
Otherwise be smarter and do not associate with uncontrolled idiots who cant keep their fists to themselves

Almost all aggressive people axt on pure idiotism. And they will almost always first choose someone who appears weaker or weakened.
You probably will never in your life see a small dude trying to pick a fight with a larger one without really real reason.

>>77404475
This guy speaks total sense!
Excellent note that you actually should enjoy the martial art. Its a fucking sport after all. Wanna be a killer on streets, buy a pistol.
Martial arts imho are not as intense ans serious gym sessions but jave a steep learning curve where endurance is concerned. Almost all martial arts rely on you outlasting the initial chimpout where any untrained dude can KO anyone in first 30 seconds. After that martial artists should be able to use ever growing force to break the opponents breath, pain treshold or mental limits. Thats about it.
You should be a bit obsessed with the martial art of choice because it often asks for unusual training and is quite taxing overall. The curve imho is very similar to running. You need to log in quite a lot of seemingly easy effort that becomes really hard the deeper you go.
I personally like wreatling and sambo and initially it was not easy at all.

Alternatively i'd say a sport that requires you to max out power, weight and explosive strength, will also carry you reallly well in any possible street fight - rugby, strongman stuff etc.

>>77408313
>>77408332
>>77408377
>>77408391
samefag is strong in this one

>>77404332
No, no, no, Yes, because:

You train to be functionally fit and prevént fights, so that they never happen, not to play Street Fighter in real life with possible lethal, grievous, and traumatic consequences. A fight prevented is a fight won. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying, bragging, and inexperienced in martial arts.

>>77408414
Also, boxing is a regulated sport, so take it to the ring, and let the police and law handle the street.

>>77404432
This is good and sufficient advice.

I'll keep my racist stereotypical presumptions based on observations about fighting and bullying in real life to myself.

>>77408332
this, I can't remember how many times I fought with my peers back in school only to end up as buddies. The fight makes you respect your opponent's courage. nowadays you just get shanked.

>>77404332
>goatpiss faggot thread is still up
mods are followers of this piece of trash confirmed
>more cope and seething

>>77408528
his followers are literally braindead. he has a good point here and there between all the retardation but by god I can't believe that people take nutrition or lifestyle or fucking martial art advice from this guy. Young men really need father figures in their lives lest they turn to some fucking psychopath for a father figure

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>>77404332
If you need to use it remember to take it out of your purse big boy.

>>77408524
You would still lose vs me with a knife. You aren't going to dodge me kicking you and I can jump with you on my back. I can skip from several feet away and idk who you think you are but for when you dodge I can just pick my foot up and do a half step. What're you gonna do stab my leg as it is coming at you? Good luck tough guy.

>>77404332
>do I NEED a weapon
To be more of a man? No.

>>77404332
What if someone threatens you? You just shoot them?
>I did and here's wat happened
So you vs some mentally ill person?

>>77404332
Martial arts/sports are full of LARPing nerds, like actual virgins and wimps. Every time someone with actual fight in them gets in they murder the competition literally.
Look at jon jones, most dagestanis, usyk, prime mcgregor, badr hari... They're all literal ooga boogas who barely string intelligent words together outside of the cage versus chandler, de la hoya, bellew...
It's all circus. Get a gun or knife. At worst learn to Wrestle or learn judo to throw people and run

>>77408524
same. recreational and social violence builds trust, it tells you that yes, this is a guy you absolutely want by your side if you were ever invaded.
now the invaders are already here, having been welcomed and the women are all brainwashed into seeing them as victims if you do anything about it.

recreational violence seems to be chemically pretty identical to sex. it releases all the same drugs into your system, develops trust and the bond between the combatants, releases tension, is physically exhausting and cathartic.
winning was great but the most important thing is not backing down and accounting for yourself well.

thirdies just want their izzat, to win by all means, and africans only know killing.

>>77404332
Fighting another adult male in a street fight is never a good idea. I have a friend that got hit in the side of the temple and he had a minor stroke and the guy kept stomping on him and he lost all of his teeth. A guy at work ending up losing 80% sight in one of his eyes when he got hit in a bar fight when he was 23. This is assuming the other guy doesn't just pull a knife or gun out and fuck you up. Martial arts only work for fights with a referee, just end it as fast as possible outside of sports.

>>77404407
In challenge matches boxers will always day no kicking, no takedowns
Bjj will say "do what you want, doesnt matter"

Checkmate

>>77408624
>There's no reason to fight if my opponent is already on the ground

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Unless you can draw your gun like bob munden you can always get left hook fucked.

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>>77408291
>A few inches of st-ACK

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>>77408412
nope.
we all do genuinely hate you and want you to kysyourself.

>>77408687
Lmao what a moron, if he knocked his ass out and got the cops involved and left it at that he would have been fine, but presumably killing the guy or causing him to become a vegetable after he was already rendered harmless definitely got him in big trouble

>>77408624
>Troublesome individual approaches you
>Get on ground
>Spread legs
>"Do what you want"
I guess if it works, it works

>>77404332
decade of devout training < knife < gun

boxing is giving yourself brain damage to feel tough, there's no use case for it or any other martial art as the people most likely to start trouble with you are armed.

>>77404332
That's a retarded question. Obviously, knowing martial arts (the real ones) will help you win in a street fight. If you had say 4 years of boxing, you will win 99% of fights unless the opponent is 250lbs of muscle and has training too.

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>>77408856
I'm not sure where this idea that you're not gonna get tossed down hard comes from

>>77408709
>two samefage
Kek

>and they hated him for he spoke the truth

>>77409143
That's a judoka who happens to be competing in BJJ. Typically BJJ schools don't teach much throws so the competitors just sit down.

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>>77404332
Knowing how to take a stance, move around in that stance, throw a jab, a cross, a hook, and block punches from a guard. That's what I would say is the main "useful" list of things you should learn.

Slightly less necessary, but still extremely useful: Basic takedown defense and clinch fighting. Something very helpful if you ever find yourself there: Learn how to get up from under mount position. All that basically covers what happens in a street fight. Once you get past the those basic of basics, yeah martial arts becomes autism of dealing with other martial artists.

>>77408695
If your wife got her ass scooped by the bouncer and his pals what would you do?
>ol tex with a big iron
>try to fight and lose
>skipping switch front kick into an object and then knock one dude out and then rush the next one before they get to enclose on you

>>77410150
Scoop his tits.

>>77410150
No I'd just box them. Karate is for fags with no upper body strength and you risk slipping. Plus after one exchange you are less mobile. In a 1v5 or whatever you need to be very strong to instantly ko or incapacitate and then to also manage distance and obstacles. Most people will get scared though if they start shit then start getting mauled. Even a clinch like muay thai is wasting precious time that they will try to blindside you. If you cannot ko someone in one punch and fast without playing distance then you will lose a 1vX against even the most mediocrily competent opponents.

>>77410155
As what a distraction? And he doesn't have tits, the bar bullies all have abs. Idk if you're aware but that would not work in a fight.

>>77410172
No it's just tit-for-tat, or tit-for-ass so to speak. If he scoops ass, you get to scoop tit. That's a fair trade.

>>77409986
>and block punches from a guard

Cool story, bro. IRL you're not blocking shit because everything happens way too fast, especially for a person who never sparred. Far more useful skills would be fast and steady footwork, slips and tilts and counters.

>>77410150
Didn't read, you're indian.

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>>77404332
There's no good reason for being good at fighting, explain yourself. No good person just like me would ever "need" it.

>>77410150
I'd gather up the whole town with pitchforks and we'd come after you. Learn history, the peasant's crusade.

I box (not right now because my back is fucked) and have grappled in the past
The utility of being able to throw a tight shot and not get cracked yourself is obvious
Of course if you're out there jabbing him up and he pulls out a gun and deletes you, well shit happens and boxing didn't save you, but if you had shot him first you would have lived
But there are different kinds of "street fight" and not every one is a fight vs 10 ninjas with swords and you have 20 seconds to defeat them all and defuse the bomb
What I don't get about the "just shoot him" guys though, is in irl you won't probably see the other guy coming, because he's the aggressor so he gets to decide when/where/why/how the attack happens (and who gets attacked, in this case that's you) and you have to react. In the case where you do get to see it coming, boxing actually helps a lot, as in having the willingness, capability and confidence to throw the first punch, instead of cowering and letting the other guy start the fight on his terms
Goatis says a lot of retarded things in this video

>>77404451
its common for copers of all variety to attack the person rather than the argument
bloated, red faced /fit/cels are still stuck in 2016 and think bloatmaxxing will get them a gf

>>77408276
>PDFs
we're on 4chan, you can just say pedophile
you pathetic subhuman gen alpha little shit, i'd love to kill someone like you one day

>>77408697
the way his arm stops momentarily when attacking
the way his feet and body slides slightly when he throws him
AI generated

>>77404332
I agree with Joe Rogan when he said wrestling and boxing are the most important martial arts to learn. Wrestling mostly so you can avoid getting taken down and boxing so you can fight off multiple people at the same time without having to throw relatively risky kicks.

>>77412723
If this sounds like a fantasy then you underestimate how shit the average person is at fighting and how retarded the average person is. Of course you're not going to easily fight off multiple trained fighters or someone who is 300lbs with abs.

boxing got me to focus more on cardio and endurance and as a barbell fag it made me a more balanced athlete

>>77408291
>I don't need a door for my house, I already have a gun
kys

>>77408214
>you're out with a chick and some fag is considering asking for her number
If you need to fight every suitor to keep your bitch loyal, I have bad news for you: you're a literal cuck.

>>77410208
>a fight happens too fast for you to block punches
>but you can totally slip those same punches

>>77404332
I think Bruce Lee said in his book that if you do a year of boxing and a year of wrestling you can beat pretty much any average person, because nobody else in America really trains to fight.

Like another anon here said, and Bruce Lee said this too. It doesn't really matter how good you are if someone just pulls a gun and kills you first.

The best thing to do is avoid niggers.

>>77408596
Theres no greater joy in life for a man than proving your capability. If you don't count domination.
>>77413652
Unrelated but why is there an archetype thats more violent and unhinged than rest of the population literally everywhere around the world? Africans from Africa are mostly peaceful. Bet they got some fucked up subgroup that fits the archetype. My country has kurds, gypsies and syrians. Europe has gypsies and to some extent turks and africans. Russia has a shitton of subgroups

>>77413660
>Africans from Africa are mostly peaceful
Over the course of several thousand years Africans were independently discovered by the Chinese, the Arabs, and the Europeans. "Peaceful" is not the word those explorers used to describe them. Usually they used words like "cannibal" or "animal."

Combine stupidity and a natural inclination for violence with a media telling them that they're allowed to hate everyone, and this facet (violent nigs) of our modern culture is what you get.

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>>77404332
>training
cant hurt
>real fights / street fights
you cant train that. you only find that out if you clash with someone and that happens in .1 of a second. its not like the movies with a big build up. one second you’re arguing the next your brain is registering oh shit im being pucked in the fucking head i better throw a fist back. and thats if you’re lucky to not have caught a haymaker in the jaw giving you jelly-legs or straight KO.
the best martial art? de-escalation and getting the fuck out of there. you’ll be “a bitch” with a bruised ego but you also potentially avoided a cracked skull and that’s priceless.
if you’re cornered or need to defend your girl or something then yeah all bets are off. use a chair, scratch, stab, pull, nutshots, headbutt, elbows. you can deal with the cops later if you’re caught. then you’ll kick yourself looking back if it
could have been avoided.
and for the love of god if some nigger pulls a knife/gun on you just give up the watch and get outta there it’s not worth dying over if your attacker has a fucking weapon. you’re not john wick.

>>77408716
that's probably brazil or something. the cops would have just shot him.

>>77410150
i would never go anywhere that requires bouncers

>>77404332
You don't want to box in a street fight cause you'll break all your fingers. You don't want to wrestle either cause the other guy might bite your neck or pull out a pocket knife.

>>77412742
nigga are you retarded?
this isn't about your chick's loyalty, it's about some fag potentially physically attacking you because YOU are the obstacle between him and the chick he's decided he wants to try fuck.
virgins who don't go outside, stop replying to me.

>>77413763
honestly this.

>>77408624
Every BJJ practitioner has a plan until their opponents friend stomps them in the face.

testing

https://youtu.be/II4vHnf1A5E?si=cn2wXdBbn2Xz5jjw


What you're going to want to do is try to tear their eyes out. Included is an example of a ref'd round with eye gouging allowed. Pretty much everyone just starts screaming and gives up their defenses everywhere else to stop their eyes from being gouged out.

>just have a gun
Anyone who has spent enough time at the range should realize that even a well maintained quality firearm can malfunction. Even though I have multiple firearms in my house, they are not in reach at all times. Anyone who isn't a shut in should be wise enough to know that even if you are minding your own business a confrontation could happen at any time. I don't know why "having a gun" vs "knowing martial arts" are two opposing things. Why do people think you have to be an MMA champion for the basics to be useful? I'm not John Wick or Bas Rutten. I just want to increase my odds for the various scenarios that can happen. I don't go to bars or clubs or even drink anymore and I still had a random close call from some loud mouth neighbor who wanted to start a fight with me about crossing the easement from the road to the sidewalk. He was too retarded to know that it's public property and niggers don't like it when you tell them they're not "king of the neighborhood." He had a fucking meltdown in his front yard about me walking on the grass between the road and the sidewalk. The world is full of these aggressively retarded people. Instead of getting into a fight I'm thinking about mailing him a package full of dog shit.

>>77414675
two retards fighting

you can finish someone from mount with punches in a few seconds.
thats what the top guy should have done instead of trying to gouge eyes
bottom guy didn't attempt a single real mount escape, and instead tried to gouge eyes, and ergo doesn't know how to fight. my god, at one point the bottom guy tried to bench press the top guy off him from mount. bottom guy didnt even attempt a single bridge lmao.
bottom guy at one point just held onto a headlock for some reason.
and top guy didn't take advantage of that by simply posturing up and throwing punches
ergo nor does top guy know how to fight

i think eye gouging is a useful tool, but when you already know how to fight.

>>77416154
>>77414675
orsu corsu clearly doesn't know how to grapple
olsen had a double already grabbed and corsu tried to throw a knee. just lol. at no point does corsu even attempt to sprawl
even when olsen locks a waistlock, corsu doesn't try to sprawl
just terrible

>>77404332
as long as you also train dirty boxing and optimize for the open weight class and circumstance itself. it is not a match. the idea of there being 'no rules' and that they think they're going to hit or kick somewhere clever also applies to you.

>>77408332
>>77408524
>>77408596
>>77413660
that's not actually a normal part of childhood, you just went to a shit-tier school full of dumbasses

>>77405221
>judoka
judo is a sport not a martial art

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>>77408313
dittor malding

>>77408303
>gypsies and shitskins rule the streets in most cities
they don't, LOL
if you're pushed around by them you're a subhuman

>>77416562
truth

>>77404839
Unless you mean a European country that's actively at war like Ukraine, this is just nonsense and you're confusing an anecdote with data.

>>77404332
is it the end all be all
no
does it help
yes

first line is to be aware and avoid
after its avoiding and retreating (both can help being a boxer)
if there is no way out its attacking first and hard and then retreat

if you have weapons good
if you have a gun its the best

>>77404332
Street fighting is stupid snd for low iqs. But knowing how to block and properly punch will let you kill 95% of normalfags

>>77404332
i just wish my schedule allowed me take classes more
I work night shifts and everyone spars on thursday nights. shadowboxing can only get you so far

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>learning a "martial" """art'"" where you are punished and forbidden from doing strikes that do the most damage and are most effective

>>77404332
>you can take you hands into any house or business premises
>don't have to conceal your hands in public or anywhere
>the police can't confiscate your hands
>it's easier to convince the police/lawyers bashing someones face in was self defence and not premeditated if you use your hands rather than a baseball bat
>it's almost impossible to accidentally kill someone with your hands, this is not true of other weapons
If any of these matter to you or represent situations you could realistically find yourself in in your neighbourhood then yes boxing/muay thai are worth it.

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>>77405244
C'mon anon. The ancient greeks believed a man should be both a warrior and a scholar, not just one or the other. Machiavelli even advised one must be the fox (to avoid traps) *and* the lion (to fight) and before you ask me yes I did read The Prince about 15 years ago.

>>77404432
>just go to a gym and workout for a month
why?

man /fit/ is dead

just posting super low effort alg bait from this aging british blockhead who won a medal 40 years ago

>Ockshually Socking Cock is Good for yew boxin [basedface picture] (please click)

thank you admins for allowing phone posters and indians on 4chan so i can look at advertisements all day

>>77408596
this is truly some blatant homo-erotic cope you got going on
i bet you study bjj and are looking for someone to wrestle

>>77404332
A pet subject of mine since I did a lot of combat sports and martial arts and really found not much difference in actual street violence performance. It didn't matter f I did regular sparring and boxing, or Tai Chi Chuan and nothing else. In fact, the trad martial arts that supposedly don't work, worked out slightly better for me. No idea why but the variables in actual fighting are so different from a competition fight that it just doesn't tranlsate well.
>Ricky Hatton mugged in China
>Amir Khan beaten up in Birmingham
>Judo medlaist beaten up in Rio
>European junior wrestling champion killed in streetifght
>BJJ champion Dillon choked out by bouncer (who did Krav and Sambo iirc)
>Anthony Smith home invasion
Google all these. If you want, you cna find a lot.

Combat spots like boxing wrestling, mma, etc. have a much WORSE track record in street fights if you check the news., Filter out the usual "female mma fighter beats up robber" news that were all the rage some years ago and be amazed how many pro fighters get cleaned up in an actual fight. In comparison, mertial arts like karate or TKD seem to fare slightly to much better in actual street violence, which I kinda can confirm form personal xp.

>>77410150
>complain to management and get the bouncer fired
>call the police and press charges for battery
any bouncer worth his salt wouldnt engage in such stupidity

>>77421308
Because martial arts don't have any counter to someone hitting you in the back of the head with a rock, pulling a knife/gun, or 3 guys attacking you at once. Carrying is literally the only non retarded form of self defence.

>>77404332
Wrestling > all other martial arts for self defense.

Wrestling allows you to put someone else to the ground then disengage while also preventing them from taking you to the ground. It lets you tie up someone's arms to stop them striking you. Most of all it lets you tire them out by making them work trying to take you down and most people give up once they get tired.

And most of all, it doesn't leave scrapes and bruises on your fragile little hands so when the police show up you can say nothing and they can't point to hand damage as evidence you assaulted someone if the other guy claims it.

>>77420322
>the police can't confiscate your hands
what about in saudi arabia? :D

https://youtu.be/kvb3j5MRyGU?si=r0t2N2X-_jeJSS0H

>>77404332
>Don't do sports or exercise because you will lose to a guy with a gun if they attack you
What a retarded video
What a retarded thread

Having been in a few things you would consider an actual and "won" in that I didn't die or get seriously injured, I don't think any particular martial art gives you a significant advantage. You don't consent to street violence and there are no rules, so anything more than knowing how to strike, grapple and not fall over is liable to fail you. Far more importantly, I think, is being able to keep your head straight in a situation like that, because it's fucking scary and if you can't compose yourself you're going to not notice a weapon or their friends and you're going to die. You should really just carry a weapon if you're afraid and it won't get you arrested.
Running away is reasonable, but it's not a great solution. Ask yourself if you have better cardio and stamina than muggers on crack.

>>77404332
Goatis is retarded goycattle who buys into all sorts of Jewish propaganda lies, while somehow convincing himself that he's an original thinker. Everyone who takes him seriously is a moron.

>Does boxing actually help you in a real street fight
Yes. The thing that made me start boxing was a video of a boxer and his gf being attacked by a random guy (probably on drugs) in the street. They were about the same size, but the boxer immediately whooped the attacker's ass so hard that the boxer's girlfriend tried to intervene and make him stop. The boxer's movements were precise, quick and efficient, while the attacker was just flailing his arms and trying in vain to protect himself. Absolutely outclassed.

>would you be better off carrying a weapon and trying to use it
Yes, hand-to-hand combat training is for when you CAN'T carry a weapon without getting arrested or thrown out of the venue.
>just kicking someones nuts and biting them?
Nothing keeps you from doing these things in addition to learning how to evade attacks, throw punches and control distance.

>>77404332
it's ironic that he rips on Tony Jeffries in particular, because Tony specifically advocates against sparring with headshots, which demolishes the only valid point Goatis makes