Surely this thread won't, like all the other threads about this, devolve into autistic ranting and argumentation about which micromanaging ritual of pornography and masturbation is best and healthiest.

>>77410171
Does it break nofap if I clenched my ass to suck your dick with my ass?

>>77410178
I can actually suck a fart back into my body

>>77410171
Its the same as asking if alcohol is a problem. The answer is, it is if its a problem for you. Dont like the alcohol analogy? Use junk food then. Use literally anything else that can lead to something bad. Its only a problem for losers

>>77410171
I watch but don't fap.

>>77410185
You actually can't

>>77410171
Its the stupidest way in the world to try to break a porn addiction.
Without sexual outlet you'll just go mad and relapse.
I mean let's face it, this is incel shit. Nobody with a sex life needs this.
When you get the uncontrollable urge to watch porn, just rub one out and it goes away.
Look at nofap November. Have any of you losers changed your ways year after year of this shit?
No all you do all month is post updates on how its day 23 or something then on Dec 1 at 12:00:01am you go right back gooning to childrens cartoons all day long for another 11 months

>>77410204
theres a video that went into this restraint and release cycle the nofap community does that i forgot the name of

they're all just essentially chastity cage fetish cucks minus the physical cage

The only time I did nofap by the second week I was so horny that I fucked a crossdresser and busted mount saint helens in his mouth

>>77410171
Nofap is bullshit but noporn is very real

>>77410171
it works for 7 days max then i just lose it

>>77410171
i do altered nofap where I'm allowed to jerk off only once a week.
i've been doing it for 3 weeks now. i have more energy and drive and I'm a fucking pervert
oh also I'm fucking my 20yo neighbor now. i'm 42 and she's got a daddy complex lol
i think if you can manage the urges a total nofap would be just godmode

>>77410171
it's a jewish trick to make you miserable

>>77410237
don't blame your faggotry on nofap

>>77410204
>>77410216
>porn bots trying this hard to keep people away from nofap
this is how you know it's effective and nofap is onto something

>>77410344
>people are calling me retarded for doing something
>that must mean its actually a good thing
quite literally the most ironic and retarded argument to back up a claim

I remember being on prolonged 30+ day NoFap in high school. During that short time period, it made me confident enough I actually managed to get along with my classmates (back then I was generally a reclusive autist). I was also energized enough to kick ass at sports. Since then I've never replicated this long NoFap streak. I'm 100% sure the positive changes were due to abstinence from porn and masturbation.

>>77410171
The main problem is the obsession with porn in that you are either totally obsessed with watching it or you are totally obsessed with chastity it's fucking weird, porn is meaningless I goon for a few hours and move on with my life collecting dick gains on the way... Weirdos

>>77410171
ronnie coleman and nietzsche both say semen retention makes a massive diffrence.

Obviously porn fries your brain

>>77410314
as in porn? Yes. The industry is literally owned and run by them.

This isn't even guesswork, it is public info

>>77410171
>inb4 didn't read
Serious answer regarding nofap: it depends, because there are different angles from which you can approach the question because it's obviously not an easy binary answer like with most things in the world.
From how I personally see it as long as you don't fall for extreme memes (year long nofap vs masturbating 3 times a day and gooning for 8 hours to degenerate porn) and it doesn't prevent you from being a normal functional person then it doesn't really matter, as a matter of fact it's even pointless to think about it, it just a weird thing to focus on, so as with anything in life sobriety and moderation are key and what you do in your private life is your business only. I personally never noticed any meaningful changes because I'm already capable to develop and keep a consistent habit for instance, I think it might work for people who desperately need any motivation and once you can combat their addiction everything else becomes easier because they can snowball from it and apply those principles to other things that they are struggling with. So yeah it can have a positive psychological effect (potentially boosting confidence, self-esteem, essentially convincing yourself that not everything is lost and so on) just like it can have no effect at all.
The science is kinda clear in a sense that it's useful for prostate cancer prevention (even if the risk is extremely small why would you expose yourself to it) and your body was kinda designed by mother nature to coom (inside a woman preferably), hence why night emissions happen and all that shit, in other words whether you want it or not your body will find a way to do it, so rather than waking up in jizz one day just bust one out every 1-3 weeks and forget about it, no biggie.

>>77410515
cont.
Then you have the cultural angle, if you are a religious person or you grew up in a religious household maybe it's a no-no thing for you by default, there are also people convinced that your sperm is literally your life essence/mana and that each time you cum you essentially drain yourself of life energy or something, again you can't really argue with that, if you really think it's real then yeah you don't need my take on it because you've got your own opinion already.

Regarding porn it's very simple: just avoid it. I can't think of a dumber way to waste your time than watching some random man fuck some random bitch (assuming vanilla stuff which is best case scenario), even worse if you paid for it. There are literally zero downsides to avoiding porn.

Now gather around folks, story time, my father and I had that "talk" once about it when I was mature enough for it to happen naturally (kinda hard to hide that you coomed in your dreams when your mom washes your clothing) and well essentially he said that it doesn't really matter, if you really need to just go take a shower, rub one out and go on with your day like a normal person, don't overthink it.

>>77410344
>pornbot
you're not even sane.
I was literally trying to give advice for quitting porn.
Anhyoo, nofap is an incel cult.

>>77410350
nofap is a cult. Like all cultist they lose their minds if anyone so much as questions them and calls them "jewish pornographers".

>porn addicts
>nofap cultists
just 2 sides of the same incel coin

>>77410171

I never jacked off more than few times per week I don't get guys who do it

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>>77410171
No. mCRPC risk. CAPLIFE study.
>t. know you silly goys need (((kaempferol supplements Q))) for prostate chemoprophylaxis to avoid needing picrel

now in my late 30s with no fap, i definitely experience more consistent energy for working out and being more physical.
i don't know about obscure things like drive and motivation

>>77410594
Half of the nofap cultists are porn addicts who have been trying to quit porn and failing for years by forcing themselves into a state of having no sexual outlet at all which is doomed to fail.
The other half are these weirdo losers who think not jacking off for 1234567 days will give them the magic power of looking a girl in the eye and saying hello.
They never succeed either.

>>77410350
>>77410585
observe how persistent this anti nofap rhetoric is. it's almost like someone deeply doesn't want you to do it. hmmm, really makes you think

>>77410633
Dont worry bro. Keep checking those days off on the calendar.
In just 4 more months you will be a normal person who can talk to and have sex with women.
But some reason normal people who have sex with women dont need to go 3 years without ejaculating to do it, but whatever.

>>77410661
notice the insane strawman he creates and the image he's trying to put into your head. notice the associations he's making "normal people fap" "all nofappers are freaks" it's subtle, but it's persistent and obvious now that I've pointed it out. now why would someone do that? obviously, a normal person wouldn't, only someone with an agenda to push. qui bono who benefits from you sitting at home and jacking off your energy uselessly? well, the porn industry, for one. their entire business model depends on it

>>77410665
>this is your brain on day 3452 of nofap.
also
>anyone who isnt a nofap cultist is a porn addict or a jewish pornographer

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>>77410171
It depends on the individual. If you're a legit coomer who just HAS to spend 2 hours a night gooning and fapping you would 100% benefit from nofap. But if you've got the self control to only fap a few times a week, and get it over fairly quick, then there's no need.

If it gets to the point where you're fapping instead of going to the gym, or you're living in a shithole because you fap instead of tidying, you should do it.

I don't believe there's any actual benefit to nofap aside from productivity, but as I described you'll only massively benefit if you're a huge coomer who wastes way too much time on it. I really doubt there's any physical benefit though or test boost. I say that as an athlete too, played D1 ball years ago in college

>>77410672
you'll note he's yet to say anything that wasn't a meme designed to get you to associate going nofap with being a freak or a loser. ask yourself what kind of person that's "just against nofap" would be doing something like that and behaving exactly like someone paid to push an agenda? well, a porn bot that's who

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>>77410681
why would a normal person with normal relationships and sex life need to do nofap.
And here's the meme you cultists post in every one of these threads.
And not a single one of you ever got better hair or "alpha male behavior" from not jacking off for months.
Picrel is what nofap cultists actually believe

>>77410633
You can keep doing it. You just have an issue with people calling you a retard

>>77410690
>he has an image macro
see how prepared the ad agency is? see how it's nothing but strawmen and memes designed to make nofap look so ridiculous and the people doing it losers? very curious why a supposedly "normal person totally not a bot paid for by the porn industry bro" would be doing this sort of thing, don't you think?

>>77410690
> why would a normal person with normal relationships and sex life need to do [x]
[x] - insert literally anything
Notice OP didn't mention anything about NoFap and magical superpowers.

>>77410695
>you are an ad agency!!!
it took 2 seconds to find it on google images
like I said, mentally ill cultist
>>77410699
look at the nofap timeline I posted which has been posted over and over by nofap cultists and is basically their bible

>>77410187
I fap but don’t Watch

>>77410704
> look at the nofap timeline I posted which has been posted over and over by nofap cultists and is basically their bible
Okay, so everyone who refrains from porn must be part of the NoFap cult. Nice logic, buddy.

>>77410706
>it is not possible to jack off without watching porn for hours
see what I mean? not even sane
People have been jacking off like 100,000 years with gooing to internet porn but apparently just the act of jacking off twice a week in the woods makes them jewish porn addicts

>>77410704
observe how all I've done is point out his absurd, nonstop, memes against nofap. notice how he attacks me personally now for merely pointing this out. but also keep in mind he's supposedly just a normal guy and not a paid shill for the porn companies

do you know any normal people who behave like this guy? who constantly spout baseless memes with the express intention to associate nofappers with losers? porn bot

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100% merit. But it's more about no p, rather than not fapping. Fapping is ok only (and if only) you're thinking about real women or experiences you've had. Yes p is destructive and the less the better, but you also don't want to end up in trapped in a place where you think "oh I looked at p, therefore I'm bad" or "I must overcome this p problem for my life to get better", or "I must overcome p problem before I move on in life".. that's the cart before the horse. You need to start moving forward regardless, that's the only way p drops out of your life. Leaving destructive behavior is a lot like falling asleep, there's no chance it'll happen by force. Move on with your life, tell yourself "I'm alright, right now. Despite any p use, even if it feels terrible after a relapse, I can still get x done and keep moving". Your mind will hold you back more than p (or anything else in life) ever could. Your default mindset needs to be more so "what have I done today to move forward" rather than "how many days of no p have I done". Unhealthy p use is largely driven by unfelt feelings that caused indigestion and pain in the mind, it can be as simple as journaling and feeling (sitting, experiencing. Not distracting oneself) what you're writing every night to de-sludge. Slowly but surely you become clearer and clearer. There are many truths that you are hiding from. Ultimately only feeling and knowing truths will change you, it's not about "doing" anything, it's more about seeing everything. Move forward, "I'll get rid of p first, then live" is literally l backward approach - when you're in your cocoon, that's when you goon.

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>>77410171
>Based on your personal experience, do you think NoFap is bollocks or is there actual merit to it?
Degrees: archaeology, visual neuroscience, behavioural endocrinology
Sexuality: turbo hyper sexual (even more now than when I was a teenager)
Orientation: heterosexual

>While abstaining from porn
Never watch porn. Only softcore solo female-only.

>While abstaining, did you experience more drive and motivation
No, less.

>improved performance at sports?
Worse

>It's kind of crazy to realize that as of 2026 there still isn't a single longitudal scientific study on abstinence from porn and the effect it has on brain.
Impossible to measure. Humans are sexual creatures. Sex is a much larger part of our cognition, motivation, emotions and character of our species than most people like to admit. The existence and consumption of porn is an expression of the default state of the human mind, which is insufficiently nourished in our modern way of life. The consumption of porn is not some kind of measurable "blip", and its absence does not leave some sort of huge neurocognitive vacuum that can be measured. If porn is not available to satisfy the part of the human sex drive that is nourished by it, something else will nourish it in some fashion.

It's very simple. Take 2 of our ancestors 10,000,000 years ago. One has an insatiable sex drive, the other doesn't. Who do you think is more likely to turn the entire rain forest upside down, inside out, until they get the pussy they want? Who do you think is more likely to pass on their genes, and produce offspring that inherit that behaviour?

Obviously the distinction is not that black and white, but you owe the fact that you are here to shitpost about this topic to the fact that millions of your ancestors got laid. That's the only reason you exist. To do the same. Porn is not an external phenomenon, but an expression of an internal phenomenon. Abstaining from porn does nothing to change that internal phenomenon.

>>77410727
>>77410731
second strat, the soft approach. or the "just do no porn bro" this is the gambit that as long as they keep you fapping you'll come back to porn. and even if you don't, there is still the fact that you are wasting your energy away in your chair which other interest groups want you doing

also note how this immediately started after the angry "all nofappers are just losers" guy stopped posting. you can see now that this is a coordinated botting event, right?

>>77410743
I'm >>77410727
Obviously I believe the best and only thing guys should be doing is sleeping with real women, fapping is a far lesser harm than p. But many guys can't pull women, saying "never orgasm, EVER" is retarded advice because it's not something even monks or priests are particularly successful with. Sometimes you just need to rub one out so you can think straight, if you believe otherwise, you probably have a low libido desu. In my experience sometimes plain fapping can prevent you from these cycles of "i just did 30, 50, xyz days of no p, I get insanely horny, then gooned for 3 hours" SOMETIMES fapping can prevent that. Don't be fuckin paranoid, I've been aware of this shit and spoken to more ppl about this topic than you, I was around this shit back when Gary Wilson the GOAT and yourbrainrebalanced was popular. Telling guys "just never be sexual" and leaving out understand ones emotions, mind and other strategies is absolutely retarded advice which always backfires because it makes you think whiteknuckling this process is a win. It's not. It's a trap.

>>77410756
anyone find it strange how the angry guy stopped posting immediately as this new "reasonable" anti no fapper started posting? and he's willing to immediately reply in this thread on this dead board with 7 posts per minute total? quite odd, don't you think? for a new concerned anti no fapper to be posting immediately as the other one stopped in a dead thread on a dead board? curious coincidence I'm sure. or more likely, just a porn bot

>>77410762
Lmao good god you're dumb. This post rn is my 3rd post. I'm sitting in my car, bored, waiting for my workmate to show up to a job so I'm killing time on 4chan. Your mind is cooked bruv. You're just trying to subvert real conversation on this topic and that's very obvious to everyone, you haven't said anything constructive or practical

>>77410770
look at him trying to turn it now onto me personally, the bot has identified me as a disruptive element to his agenda of trying to first, paint all nofappers as insane weirdos, and now, for his pivot to a more "intellectual" "just do no porn bro" soft approach. but pay close attention to the shared vehement aggression towards me for just pointing it out. they now need you to associate me with being uniquely insane. nevermind that this guy was just 10 minutes ago pretending to be someone else who suspiciously stopped posting after spamreplying for an hour while this guy came and started doing the same thing on a dead board in a dead thread. don't pay any attention to that, no, he relies on you not noticing that so he can push his agenda. and since he's paid and programmed to post, he must continue. so notice the change in tact.

keep in mind this is supposedly just a normal person against nofap. does his behavior seem like that of a normal person? ask yourself

>>77410171
Nofap works but it depends on if you have a life or much motivation beyond the practice. It makes you stronger and can help you think clearer with the increased test, self control/willpower which changes the brain and stronger androgen receptors. But if you're really depressed and disillusioned with life I think it might not might be enough to get you out of that and you might not enjoy the benefits others get. You need to be able to see something you can look forward to in the future. Even false hope can let something like a rat survive much longer than they would otherwise, look at the test having those rodents tread water. You just have to hope the hope is worth having.

I've gone 1.7 years so far while ocassionally edging. It does fix a lot of anxiety issues because you have more self control and it does help with motivation but it mostly motivated me to go out and find a girl to bust my nut into instead of hand. It isn't some magical fix though and the cult surrounding it saying theres super powers etc are full of shit.

In the time I've started I've gotten way more dates and oppurtunities for sex (turned most of them down because I'm picky) and have slept with more women.

>>77410420
It's a lot more important than people would think and there's an energy aspect that's harder to see or measure and wouldn't be respected by modern science. What we know and see right now is obviously extremely limited. If someone found out for certain there were beings or creatures using and relying on the energy from men ejaculating by themselves it would still be dismissed as schizophrenia or some other mental illness. Besides the arrogance of assuming they know everything they could also actually know about it but be paid or threatened to keep the feedings going. Just hypothetically speaking.

>>77410800
>In the time I've started I've gotten way more dates and oppurtunities for sex (turned most of them down because I'm picky) and have slept with more women
Arguably worse than just fapping

>>77410809
?????????????

Goon cycling is the real method

6 months without pron or jerking it.
It's been nice, if only just for the mentality of "i don't do that". I was almost daily, with 2+ days being the most common. I'm pretty sure it's the reason I ended with bad tendentious in my jerk shoulder. My shoulder feels a lot better, but not fully ok.
It's made sex with my wife significantly more intimate, and I'm grateful for that, so thats been nice

>>77410716
>>77410762
No I just went to the gym. I dont spend my life on here like you.
Stop pretending the nofap timeline superpower pic is a meme to make you weirdos look bad.
You've probably posted it a million times yourself.
Please tell us all about your ALPHA MALE BEHAVIOR you've acheived from you 30 days of nofap.
Because you really sound like a hysterical bitch.
Also tell us about your better hair, high charisma etc.
Give us some examples and stories

>>77410756
>Obviously I believe the best and only thing guys should be doing is sleeping with real women,
yeah but these are incels. That's why they do nofap.
Its literally only because they think it will make them "alpha" and get women.

>>77410743
>or the "just do no porn bro" this is the gambit that as long as they keep you fapping you'll come back to porn

bold of you to assume that I can maintain any sexual arousal or erection with a penis in my field or vision (or any male body part really)

an even bolder assumption is that I could actively pleasure myself to the sight of a woman I find attractive being fucked by another man

you truly have to be a cuck in heart and soul to make such an assumption

>>77410171
I believe its true but the only evidence i have is anecdotal…. Back in my semen retention days i lasted 2 months without porn or fapping and it was one of the best versions of me. Infinite drive, clear mind and my social skills skyrocketed even for you spiritual niggas i felt like a dbz character with insane aura all of that and I wasn’t even a chronic masturbator to start with, i did it like once every week or 10 days

But again it could have been placebo who knows…. I might have to give it a shot again

>>77410171
How often do you think people jacked of before internet and magazine porn?
You think guys were stronger or more focused in the 1800s and early 1900s compared to today?

>>77411025
Old guys now seem to have a lot more test than young ones now so probably

There was a youtube short about this MMA fighter that I watched years ago. He was asked about those heel kicks, he said he never had the balls/anger/violence in him to use them, except that one time his wife was pregnant and didnt wanna fuck so he was essentially abstaining for 4 months and said he felt like a fucking beast and wasn't afraid of using those heel kicks, I wish I had saved the video.

Too much sexual activity is really really bad for you, at the same time not releasing for long periods can be detrimental, you often find stories on nofap websites/forums about people living on 4 hours sleep, it causes insomnia, I read a case where a guy's insomnia never recovered. At the end of the day, its like anything else on this planet, too much and too little is bad, but 99% of young men do it too much.

If you really wanna abstain long term, cut down on meat and dairy

>>77411071
The extra energy could be a problem if you don't find a way to use it but there aren't much better options available sooner than much later. The women all over suck and get run through at record speeds. In general there seems to be strings attached and exploitation involved whenever a guy wants to just enjoy sex and bust a nut. You don't want to attach yourself to fucked up draining non sexy vampire women or benefit other groups that barely even deserve the air they breathe.

NoPorn is enough

>>77410633
It is one of the most shilled against topics on the internet

>>77411100
porn bot

>>77411100
NOOOO! YOU CANT WASTE ENGERGY HAVING SEX WITH YOUR GIRL OR JACKING OFF IN THE SHOWER FOR 30 SECONDS!!!
YOU MUST DIRECT YOUR TIME TO PRODUCTIVE THINGS LIKE POSTING FROGS HERE ALL DAY!!!!
WITHOUT COMPLETE EJACULATORY ABSTENENCE AND SELF CASTRATION YOU ARE JUST A PORNBOT JEWWWW

>>77411100
>>77411139
they reactivated the shills. this time going for a sarcasm and a "pfft of course everyone jacks off" normalization angle. literally throwing the kitchen sink at this topic

reminder, totally normal people btw and not shills pushing an anti nofap agenda in a dead thread

>>77411151
Its not a dead thread because you keep bumping it to rant like a lunatic about jewbot pornshills or pornbot jewshills.
Or maybe its pornjew shillbots, I dont know any more

>>77411195
direct, flippant, aggression. notice how he's talking to me like I'm a known quantity when he's the only one that's replied to me. his goal here to present me as a known, and insane little person like a raving homeless man and then present me as someone whose posts are to be dismissed. what the bot is failing is that this is a dead thread, and nobody but me and his programming remember that I even posted. so by trying to elevate me into known quantity status in order to cut me down, he actually exposes himself as the self-same bot that was replying before whom you will recall completely changed personalities twice

so, kinda obvious he's a shill, huh

>>77411198
spoken just like a jewshill botporn
anyhoo, still waiting for you to post stories of how nofap turned you into a "high charisma alpha male"

>>77411200
flipping the script. another time test strategy. despite using every single documented thread sliding and shill tactic, this character will still have you belief he is a disinterested absolutely normal person just camping the nofap thread and using documented shill tactics one after another to push an agenda and attack anyone threatening the spread of that agenda. you know, like a totally normal person does

If nofap or semen retention literally turned you into superman do you really think it would matter much when you were still alone and couldn't trust anyone? Now you're a lonely dickhead but with lazer eyes. Amazing.

>>77411204
no actually I was trying to help people get out porn addiction by offering some helpful advice because nofap is a terrible method for quitting porn and will just lead to constant relapse without some outlet. >>77410204
But to you there are only 2 kinds of people:
nofap wizards who havent ejaculated in 10 years or porn addicted jews who compulsively masterbate to porn 24 hours a day.
You're mind is so warped from your own porn addiction that you think its literally impossible for some guy to jack off on the shower once a week with out him being a "porn addicted jewish gooner shill"

>>77411227
don't forget the third group, the shadowy cabal of bot-programming elites with true porn gnosis hellbent on keeping the masturbating underclass beneath their heel kekkk

I wonder how much difference it would make going from jacking off to depraved femdom blacked cuckshit to just a girl getting undressed and playing with her pussy or something super vanilla like that

>>77410963
>How did he do-
>"my wife"
oh I see. I guess its just over for us incels

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>>77411071
>Too much sexual activity is really really bad for you
Please explain how and why in terms that involve material from pic related

Clearly explain which parts of the brain are affected by rate of sexual activity over time, the physiological mechanisms in the male body, how sex steroids are affected, and how the hypothalamus, pituitary and testicular function are affected. Please be precise.

Thank you.

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>>77411025
>How often do you think people jacked of before internet and magazine porn?

>>77410171
I came to a point where I could not get off to the idea of what's currently happening (mid-intercourse) but instead would have to replay porn scenes in my head. Additionally I'd browse porn out of pure boredom which eventually spiraled to me not even getting pleasure but just dopamine hits. Sometimes I would think about porn for hours. No, nofap is not bollocks it significantly improves your life.

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>>77411746
>dopamine hits
Doesn't exist mate.

Dopamine doesn't give pleasure. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter of motivation. It makes you want something. When you get it, or when you work towards getting it, you get "rewarded" with endorphins. They are what feels pleasurable.

Dopamine is not the consequence of your pursuit of porn, it's the cause of it.

Incidentally, this is why heroin and shit is so addictive. People commonly think heroin is just a "sedative" that mellows you and numbs you. Taking heroin is basically injecting yourself with endorphins (which are named after morphine; endo-[self] orphins[morphine] -> self-made morphine). You are injecting yourself with the feeling a footballer gets when they win the World Cup, a scientist feels when they win the Nobel Prize, an actor feels when they win an Oscar.

The reason that the "painkilling" mechanism and the "pleasure" mechanism are driven by the same chemical is because making an effort to pursue a goal will allow you to endure more pain to achieve that goal. Dopamine motivates you towards a goal. You work towards that goal and feel good from the endorphins. Endorphins help manage the mental and physical struggle you have to overcome to achieve that goal. When endorphins do this, more dopamine is made and released.

The idea of "dopamine hits" is one of the most damaging and dangerous things pop-sci has ever produced. It has completely warped people's perceptions of "addiction", "attention" and "motivation", and how to deal with these kinds of things.

>>77411836
Not reading the essay because you don't have a pussy

>>77410510
remember the pornhub hq shooting recently where a literal rabbi was shot leaving the building
fucking KEKKKK
Death to fappers and pornbots

Anecdotally, I’ve learned I feel much better about myself when I abstain from porn and fapping. Also feel like gym performance is slightly improved.

>>77411927
Also, erection quality significantly improves after about 7 days no porn no fap.

>>77410171
I don't think there's a diff between watching porn and watching YouTube, Tik Tok or doomscrolling.

>>77410171
>or is there actual merit to it?
Some
I noticed that my sleep requirement drops quite a bit after 2 - 3 weeks on SR (as in: I'll start waking up an hour before before my alarm)

>>77411927
>>77411932
Anecdotally speaking, I find my life a whole lot better when I dont make trivial things like this a problem. Whats next? Thinking that not drinking water first thing in the morning ruins my entire day?

>>77411932
What are the erections for?

>>77410171
I fap like once a week at most.
Honestly I think porn consumption is far more damaging to the psyche/soul than masturbation in of itself.

>do nofap but sometimes i nut when im taking a piss
Life is cruel

>>77410171
I don't even think about porn or fapping

It's just no longer part of my life

>>77412495
Sometimes sex sometimes fapping.

>>77410171
nofap makes me want to clean a hot girls asshole with my tongue

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If you stop cooming you stop flooding your system with prolactin, this is why you feel more awake/energized. Nofap's aight, like fasting.
Noporn, however, is an absolute necessity, the damage it does to the human brain can be physically measured. It is also highly addictive, like a drug, so you get a shit ton of coping behaviours from gooners.

>>77410727
'p means cp, as in child porn nigga, just say porn

Hey everyone, when you fap a lot, do yall feel fatter after nutting?

>>77412638
Women are addictive like a drug anyway but you don't get much choice in that. Also the women cause much more harm than porn can if you try to engage with them.

just don't watch porn.

>>77411914
you couldn't have scripted it better

>>77410171
On a basic level, producing semen is energetically expensive. Of course not expelling it and allowing your body to use the nutrients other places will be helpful.

Why do people think we have a refractory period and a limit to ejac frequency? People denying the basics of this are retarded

>>77410171
As long as you have consistent sex, ideally 5-6 times a week

>>77410705
I fatch but don't wap

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Did you know that Freemasons think that cooming drains your wizard powers, which is why they only do it into another man's butt on special days?

Magic is strange.

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>>77412839
I faAaf but I don't faAaf

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You guys think looking at naked pictures of anime girls is any better? Like I normally type in (Insert waifu here) rule 34, find a picture, close my eyes and then imagine sexing her. It's like an extreme version of rotating an apple in you head.

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>>77413053

>>77412565
You have a legit medical problem if this isnt fake.

>>77410171
I’m on a 8 day streak and I’m a fat fuck loser, but when I reached 9 days last streak an old lady complimented my long hair and said “I’m surprised more ladies aren’t interested in you, I know I’d be haha”, shit actually made me feel good, I’ve never had a lady come compliment for anything but my hair, when I do go on long streaks of nofap I do feel more focused though, I’ve been going to the gym consistently 3x a week for 3 weeks straight, the only thing I’m struggling with is getting the right amount of protein so I can bulk but also lose weight and keep my body tight to avoid loose skin since I have a lot of white stretch marks, I’ve lost 10lbs so far wooooo. I just hope I can get with this one girl I like from work, she’s all I think about but recently she’s been acting kinda stand offish and been working irregular hours, not sure if I should keep talking to her but yeah

>>77412566
Based. Dubs confirm.

I start to lose my mind after a couple days. It’s especially hard because there’s constant goon bait all over social media algorithms

>>77413089
What medical problem exactly

>>77410171
>Based on your personal experience
I am happiest when I don't reject fapping, but rather limit myself to doing it once a week. It feels better, is more exciting, and feels more like a "Special occasion".

>>77412565
Haven't gone longer than a week this year but used to have that happen whenever i was on 2 or 3 weeks in.
Kinda miss it, felt weirdly good and i usually jorked it whenever that happened and the nut afterwards was nuclear.

>>77410171

NOFAP is complete bullshit. Blaming porn for your addiction is the weakest shit ever when it stems from ones own lack of impulse control and sexual insecurities.

Acknowledging the fact that seeking pleasure from watching others fuck is cuck behavior is the biggest reality check that'd stop anyone from doing so if they aren't a complete loser with no self-awareness and no agency. This will get the ball rolling for them to learn more about themselves and develop a healthier perspective on sex and improve their self-confidence at their own pace so that they can masturbate without it being a detriment to their life.

>>77413457
everything you say is pretty much true but porn addiction is real.
The dopamine flood is massive. Its more addicting than any drug, there is an infinite supply of it, its free, you dont have to go out looking for a drug dealer and engage in a risky transaction in a black neighborhood, and most importantly you can never overdose on it. You just want more and more until too much is never enough

t. porn addict

>>77413466

Porn addiction is real and everywhere where it is, but that is no excuse for someones lack of personal responsibility.

>>77413477
I never said otherwise

All I know is that if I want to be motivated, socially capable and have the best energy levels, avoiding porn and masturbation works very well.
There's a distinct difference in my confidence levels, my behaviours and the way people interact with me between wanking daily, to hardcore porn and having a week off.
It's not something I worry about too much any more but I've been on and off enough times to know that, for whatever reason, the difference is very real and very noticeable.

If I want to be at my best I just don't do it. I also think that porn in general is best avoided. I don't think it promotes healthy sexual habits in anyone.

>>77412684
Yes you feel puffier and less dense


>>77412777
Incel basement cope

>>77412909
Reddit

>>77413053
You can look all you want once you actually master nofap. You can show me my favourite porn that I used to jerk off to 5 times a day. it doesn't do anything for me now. I know fapping to it would just drain my energy and id rather use it to fuck irl and let my body heal and be at 100%

>>77413331
Mind of an addict, people like you desperately need it most. Hopefully one day you will seize life and not death clamp your penis like a deranged chimp. Unironically.


>>77413457
Wall-o-cope

>>77413488
Yep

There's nothing wrong with porn.

>>77413510
there's a problem with excess though. but that's the case for everything.

>>77413510
Watching other men do sex is pretty gay.

>>77413503

Its not a cope, you're just weak-willed retard.

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>>77413532
I only watch lesbians that kiss, cuddle, and spoon.

>>77413514

With porn it isn't simply just about understanding excess consumption of it, but also if the observer understand what they're seeing is just acting and that when its their time to have sex they're not seeing things from a 3rd person POV. It is also important they are to have the critical thinking skills to evaluate what they see is something that is part of a healthy romantic relationship where mutual and self respect are held paramount or just a debauch presentation of lust.

>>77413510

It's essentially cuckoldry unless you're watching solo.
You're watching a woman you want to fuck, get thoroughly fucked by another man instead of you and you're getting off to it.
Not a good mental perspective to reinforce and associate with pleasure if you want to be a confident and competitive man in your own right. You're like a little beta chimp pound your cock in the bushes while the alpha slams all the pussy that you would give your left nut to sniff. It's not good for the psyche.

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>he still watches porn instead lucid dream fucking
and you fuckers laugh at /x/

>>77410177
I thought the standard argument was just over whether abstaining for masturbation gave you superpowers or not. It's literally a millennia old meme, and there is merit to it.

>>77413585
I wonder what she does when she meets a wild pudgy troon

>>77413780
gets banned from the event due to refusing the kiss and being transphobic

>>77410690
>why would a normal person with normal relationships and sex life need to do nofap.
He obviously wouldn't. Is this news to you? Have you not even read the Gospels? "They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

>And not a single one of you ever got better hair or "alpha male behavior" from not jacking off for months.
It has happened to me every single time, and I lost my virginly because of it. Get fucked. And don't start nitpicking about muh hair like a little bitch. On that specific topic it would be nice if large scale longitudinal studies were performed. I think the massive swings in endocrine hormones caused by orgasm probably have a non-negligible effect on hair loss, but this hasn't really been studied properly. Bald coomer meme is real.

>>77410171
Noporn is scientifically proven to be goated, nofap is mostly a meme

>>77413503
>Incel basement cope
Only cope is pretending porn gives you pointless drama and stds the way women do in person.

>>77413576
>You're like a little beta chimp pound your cock in the bushes while the alpha slams all the pussy that you would give your left nut to sniff
Insane projection of your own desperation. Guys always go between multiple videos of different women and know none of them. You're the guy who sees a married woman with her man at the time and says "oh no I'm getting cucked so fucking hard right now" because you thought she was attractive.

>>77413477
>no excuse for someones lack of personal responsibility.
we live in a modern Sodom and Gomorrah.
Its not exactly a choice.
>bro just like resist the largest psychological war ever waged lmaooo
what if I killed you then what?

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>>77410171
Anyone who says they do noporn or nofap I automatically think you are some weirdo. All people do. Easiest way to out yourself as a loser honestly.

NoFap was one of the most life changing things I did

Depends on how much you wank innit

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>>77410171
It's a scam made by pretty infamous furries in the 00s to sell self-help and medication. It got picked up because it also aligned with Christian Right-Wingers who sounded ridiculous about their spiels about satan stealing their bodily fluids until R&W did their big grift, and suddenly they could start circularly referencing each other for merit.

That's why 4chan and /pol/ picked up on it so hard: They got grifted the hardest when it pivoted to le trad alt-right christmaxxers. The people who bought every Alex Jones supplement were left without a pocket to put money in after he lost his lawsuit, so here comes this convenient interpersonal movement which just so happens to have a pocket with an Alex Jones shaped supplement dispenser.

>>77414297
>That's why 4chan and /pol/ picked up on it so hard: They got grifted the hardest when it pivoted to le trad alt-right christmaxxers.
No, 4chan incels fell for it because they thought it would solve all their shitty life problems and turn them into alpha male sex-havers

>>77414343
It did for me for the most part. Motivates you to go get your nut since porn is no longer an option.

>>77414446
I guess the prerequisite is to already be a normal person socially.

Idk how theres any debate about this

Modern 4k HD harcore pron easily accessible by any kid with a phone is like giving a kid cocaine, or any man cocaine for that matter. And the whole "bro moderate ur use" is baffling to me, porn use is the slipperiest slope any regular guy can engage in, best to just bin it altogether. And if you drop porn you'll fap like 90% less.

I do empathize with the struggle though, the stuff is delicious and a click away at all times. But people have always had to deal with hard shit this is nothing new, your great grandpa had to struggle to not head into town to gamble all his money away at the saloon because he was lonely and bored on the farm, and ideally he pushed through it and thats one of the reasons why ur here

i just coom on saturdays. sunday is rest day

>day 1-2 nothing
>day 3-4 irritability
>day 5+ i will fuck a wall socket
yeah it does nothing for me. but im not a “gooner” and jerking off doesnt impact my life negatively at all.

>>77414471
>grandpa had to struggle to not head into town to gamble all his money away at the saloon
boomers had to actually put effort into seeking out venues and other people to engage in their vices and addictions. And people eventual ran out of money or passed out drunk which limited how much time they can spend doing it.
Now with the click of a button in the comfort of your own house you can bombard your brain with never ending an entirely novel stimulation. The instant the novelty of one video wears off, you're off to the next one. You can never overdose. You never build a tolerance, you just keep watching more and more.
Nobody in the history of the world, even the most degenerate coomers with harems of slaves, got to experience anything like this and the effects on the brain are devastating.

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Seeing this thread while watching a cutie redhead peeing

how does anyone over the age of 30 stand porn when you become so aware of how absolutely horrible the lives of every single person involved in it is. The women are almost all trafficked and the men are almost all rapists, look up shit rocco has admitted to doing, he would have been shot for it 80 years ago.

>>77414503
as a sexual sadist, that's hottest part

t, sexual sadist

>>77414512
le edgy

>>77414519
not trying to be edgy at all.

>>77414471
>>77414485
>comparing porn to cocaine
lmao, you guys are a bunch of geeks

>>77414492
based watersports bro

>>77414503
sounds like something a liberal would struggle with while at the same time thinking about how it gives sexual liberation.

>>77414492
Bitch is high key disgusting

>>77414512
A sexual sadist lol what a faggot ur a hop skip and a jump from hurting children

>>77414536
you're projecting

>>77414503
Watch hentai instead?

>>77414599
how can you watch hentai after the age of 30 knowing the artists are overworked and underpaid unable to see their families just so they can pay the bills? The artists are almost all stressed out and their bosses are almost all abusing them

>>77414599
It's so difficult finding good Hentai that isn't just kid looking characters or constant screaming

>>77410171
Yeah anecdotally I want to talk to women more, feel more confident and because I'm hornier, put more effort into trying to fuck em. Anytime I was talking to a chick and fapped at all, my motivation/desire to bother with em went down.

>>77414624
Go on nhentai then type milf and english in the search

>>77414608
Kek

>>77414503
>The women are almost all trafficked

This is a big myth, which Girls Do Porn exposed. Women do it to themselves.

>>77413053
>r34
This nigger is looking at inflation futa scat shit

>>77414297
>le some furry forum of 5 monthly users did it o algo
People were practicing abstinence before Jesus was born, moron.

>>77410171
No Fap and no Porn have benefits.
It's mostly a self control thing.

Retards think their sperm count and IQ increase or some retarded shit

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>>77410171
The fact that any mention of it brings out a huge outcry makes me think porn is a weapon being used against us.

Why else would an army of Bots crawl out of their cages and spam non stop at the every mention of NoFap?
Why would dudes not jacking off create such fear in the general public?
Why would people make advertisements against NoFap as a response?
It's very odd.
Makes no sense unless you view it as a avenue of control.

.t sex haver.

>>77410731
>softcore solo female-only.
that's all ive ever fapped to for as long as i can remember, but i think that is a kind of porn though

>>77414983
Most the ones doing or promoting nofap and similar practice are extremely arrogant and actually think they're superior to other men just because they held their nut in. If you have a bigger group of even more sexually frustrated arrogant men I don't see who that's benefiting. They're not likeable online imagine in person.

>>77415055
A man should be able to resist the urges of the flesh anon.
If you cannot resist, you can't be called a man

That's part of why the world is shit.
Men have no self control and that causes all sorts of issues.

>>77415167
I technically can resist but I don't see why I should when it comes to this. If women are still out there actually getting fucked by multiple guys when it's much worse for you, and those are still considered women, I'm not being super chaste. I know for a fact you're not supposed to just resist the flesh and there's limits to it. Taking it to the extreme of having no sexual pleasure just because real women can't be depended on doesn't make sense. At that point you might as well resist the flesh until you leave it. I know what I'm supposed to have and no amount of nofap or whatever is making it come. So you have no choice but to deal with the porn use. You're not gonna help and these women can't even help themselves so I'm going to enjoy stroking my cock in private.

>>77415167
A man should fuck his girl when he has "urges of the flesh".
Anything else is just incel cope

>>77415290
>I technically can resist but.......
>Ya bro I can totally quit at any time bro
Ok anon...

>>77415381
I'm not saying to avoid sex.
I'm saying a real man has control over all aspects of his psyche and actively communicates with all of them.
Faust calls that a 4 dimensional man.
Giving into urges without inner thought is 2nd tier NPC shit.
Literal animal behavior.

.t had sex with multiple biological women.

>>>/x/42712109
semen retention general

>>77415393
>a real man has control over all aspects of his psyche
lmao at you "in control over mind and body "fags.
You cant even look a girl in the eye and say helllo.
You dont even lift

>>77410171
It didn't do much for me compare to meditation and lifting.

>>77413776
I am afraid of my sleep paralysis demons scaring me.

>>77410171
nofap/noporn makes me more personable and forces me to seek out other presumably better ways to stimulate my brain. I don't play video games either so browsing 4chan is the most degenerate thing I do.

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>>77416135
fuck them as well

>>77411746
>I could not get off to the idea of what's currently happening (mid-intercourse) but instead would have to replay porn scenes in my head
Just how fat & ugly was she. Be honest.

>>77416135
I had a nightmare about a hobo cutting my sister's head off with a chainsaw.
Losing my job is now hitting.

>>77415393
>Ya bro I can totally quit at any time bro
I did it for a month and just ended a ten day streak because I couldn't keep rationalizing it. What's the point of abstaining for the sake of it? You're obviously meant to have a good partner to release with but the other creatures on this planet don't act right for that to be a safe option.

>>77415381
>>77416181

this, the real issue is lack of pussy

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>>77410171
I bench 225lbx18 at 165lb, work as a banker, and regularly peruse futanari hentai and piss fetish doujinshi. The true answer is to Slaaneshmaxx. One must appreciate excess in all things, both achievements and vices. The false dichotomy of "loser gooner NEET" and "puritan ubermensch" is a psyop.

>>77414608
U chose to draw cartoons fucking as a career it's not my fault this is capitalism.

I forgot to fap for a month once and had my sleep ruined because I woke up with my bed full of cum and I only slept 3 hours that night.
Nofap is only for unemployed losers.

you'll grow up and stop watching porn, it will just happen
>t oldfag
it's not weed or cocaine, you're better off jerking off in your room rather than trying to get a hit in the streets

>>77410171
I think that sodomy is actually a lot worse we could have imagined. I think it changes people's DNA and makes them turn demonic. Nofap is actually the only sane thing to do in this strange sick world. Sex should only be in marriage for procreation.

>>77417613
Procreation is gay when people can't even handle themselves and their relationships much less kids

>>77410237
Details please

>>77410171
Fapping releases all your pleasure hormones and kills your sense of motivation for doing anything else. This makes you lazier at doing anything else, including gym, thus kills gains. Also it is NOT comparable to sex. The ADHD high intensity stimulation and lack of human intetaction completely change the dynamic of what you're doing.

>>77417613
>think it changes people's DNA
where do you retards come up with this shit?
Do you even know what DNA is?

>>77418270
Plenty of guys beat it then still do things like chores and exercise. Trying to get off the normal way comes with many problems you'd never get from masturbation. If billions of people had just rubbed their dicks instead of having sex they clearly can't handle then the world would genuinely be a better place.

>>77410171
I had to do forced nofap for over 6 months. Didn't do shit. It's just placebo. The only time I can see it actually doing anything is if you're actually addicted to porn to the point where it's actively affecting your life, doesn't do shit if you just regularly masturbate without being a junkie about it.

>>77410171
It's a retarded cult popularized by crackheads and dumb teenagers. If you feel the need to watch porn it's because the rest of your life sucks. Trying to quit porn without improving your life first is stupid and will never get you anywhere, which is why all these nofap faggots constantly relapse.
There's also this weird idea that if you reach a really high nofap streak (like 400+ days) you'll gain abilities and develop an aura that women are attracted to. It's a whole genre of YouTube videos where some scrawny black or white trash tweaker-looking guy rants about how women can't keep their hands off him. My theory is that because they've gone so long without ejaculating (i.e spreading their seed) their brains are going into survival mode and imbuing them with such a degree of delusional confidence that they interpret any interaction with a woman as attraction in hopes that they'll reproduce. And when none of them get laid, they rationalize it as "SHE WAS TRYNA BREAK MY STREAK MAN BUT I AINT GONNA LET HER!".

>>77418547
Its just for compulsive masterbaters.
The thing is, these incels think they if they do it it will fix all their personality disorders and shitty life problems and will make them "high T chads" who get all the pussy

>Chimp in state of nature never jerks off, but in captivity he does, wat does this mean?
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

>>77410171

has merit, but going full monk mode is rough. i allow myself to enjoy some plorn now and then, while retaining.

>guy feels bad at cooming
>sets goal to kick a dirty habit
>succeeds/makes progress to that goal [one many people find challenging]
>Feels better about himself, carries himself differently

Woah....my male jing....they can sense it....

The key thing is this only works if you feel guilt over cooming and if you succeed. Failing in this scenario just leads to self flagellation and worsened self image next to the indifferent coomer.

It’s ok but personally I just can’t stand the wet dreams. I did nofap for like a year and felt fine during it, but having nut all over my underwear every 2-3 weeks got old very quick. I think the trick is to just get a hobby or a real job so you dont have time to just jerk off all day

>>77410204
November is also 'Islamophobia Awareness Month'. Not even the local authorities change their ways once the month concludes; because on Dec 1, they begin to install the ''barriers of peace'' around the Christmas markets.

>>77416525
fathomably based

>>77410204
>sexual outlet
GO TO THE GYM AND PULL BIG NUMBERS C'MON!

i cant even beat off anymore without feeling horrible and guilty because of conditioning from nofap. it kind of sucks. i miss when I would just go a week or two without and then do it and be like whatever, reset.

>>77410171
ever since I've stop caring about whether masturbating is bad or good, it just became neutral. I don't feel guilt anymore, just a relief. Feel horny? Rub one out. Done. I can move on with my stuff.

>been jerkin it daily for years, probably addicted to porn (just solo stuff) because/and I’m a virgin in my 30s
>left for a vacation on Friday July 17, 10 days ago, where I was going to have a roommate
>watched no porn for 10 days, didn’t even get a single erection the entire time, no wet dreams or sex dreams
>didn’t feel any different than normal, still felt the same lust for women but no interest in talking to them
>even went to beach one day and saw all the women in bikinis and still didn’t try to talk to them
I guess I’m just gonna go back to jerkin off. It didn’t make me stronger, or make me start hitting on all the women, or anything else like that. What the hell is the point. Jerk off every day, or multiple times a day, or a week and half without even getting an erection… my motivation doesn’t change, just dead

>>77410171
The benefits all come from the time savings and dopamine detox you get by curbing your addiction.
Which is very real.

It's like the hardest form of addiction to overcome. Allegedly harder than heroin, alcohol, nicotine etc.

All the stuff about how it's going to improve your social skills or make you a better person somehow is a load of bollocks however. Maybe it can lead to that if the dopamine detox leads you towards investing all your time savings from porn into bettering yourself, but it's not something that's gonna happen on it's own just because you stop touching your wiener as much.

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It is honestly bizarre how much focus there is on nofap instead of the much saner and healther alternative of quitting porn, but still fapping. Without the artificial stimulation, it's rare to go more often than once a day and it took me like a week of no porn to get off to thoughts of sexy times with a naked lady instead of needing elaborate scenarios with multiple fetishes that no sane person would ever consent to participating in for free.

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When I'm dieting I don't have enough willpower to not fap. Any tips and tricks for that?

>>77421921
>It is honestly bizarre how much focus there is on nofap instead of the much saner and healther alternative of quitting porn, but still fapping
I mention this up at the start of the thread.
When have the urge to look porn, just rub one out and goes away.
These mentally ill nofap cultists called me a "porn jew" who wants to keep them obtaining their epic nofap superpowers or some retarded shit.

there's merit in it for me but I'm a huge degenerate

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>>77410171
>Have a healthy sex drive is an addiction

>>77421724
The idea is that you eliminate your quick and easy outlet for pleasure, so sticking to nofap only leaves you with the option of getting with a woman. If you were a zero confidence sperg before nofap it isn't a miracle cure but it can give you some new perspective. Suddenly that 2/10 you would never touch starts to look relatively appealing and maybe you'll take what you can get because your balls are about to explode.

>>77421921
>>77422225
Fap without porn is a good concept but What if you’re a pathetic virgin who has no experience to imagine about jerking off to without porn? I have tried imagination but I’ve never seen a woman naked in real life, let alone being able to think about what sex or even kidding one has felt like. And I’m in my mid 30s, that’s how pathetic I am.

>>77423763
Just have sex bro

>>77411100
If you can't jerk off without porn then you don't need to jerk off. Simple as.

>>77423666
>posting my fetish in a nofap thread
th-thanks satan

>i must touch pp or i go crazy cuz i am high test!!!
>talk to girls?? no sorry too scary i mean uh i am too redpilled
lmfao

>>77423839
makes sense to me