how the f do you grow calves ? I'm doing calf raises on the leg press machine every other day but my progress is completely stalled. my gym doesn't have the standing calf raise machine.
>>77418384get really fat and walk a lot
>>77418384
>>77418388Yep, building juicy legs is the only benefit from going from fat to fit.
>>774183848x25 calf raises. People never do enough volume for calves.
>>77418384>how the f do you grow calves ?You shouldn't if you want to look like you fight. Big calves mean I'm kicking the fuck out of you easily and getting you in calf slicers and kneebars easily
I literally just was born with big calves. My family generally has big calves. I was a skinny kid, too.
>>77418448>fighting randomslowlife
>>77418384Heavy farmers walks but on your tiptoes
>>77418456post them (no homo)
>>77418384Because calves are one of the muscles that respond to constant training and volume.Doing a few calf raises on a leg machine does not compare to the thousands of pounds over say a hike or just a walk on variable terrain.It's simple mathematics.Assuming you're doing something like 400lbs at 4x15 that's only 24,000lbs of volume.Meanwhile at 19,000 steps, a single calf raises about 2.5x body weight for the stabilization, and propulsion of the body.So a single calf gets 19,000/2(for each calf)*(bodyweight*2.5)==in my case 19,000/2==9500.steps.*(215.bodyweight.*2.5)==5.1million lbs of volume.Daily I am lifting almost 5.1million lbs of volume and that does not include my >terminator exercises>weight lifting exercises>etcthat also increase total volume.If you're expecting a few calf exercises to make your calf bigger, you're going to have a bad time.
>>77418480also before someone starts screeching.the calf and soleus are the strongest combination in the human body, period.since the very first moment you walked, your body has adapted these muscles to be able to push over a hundred million lbs in a day.No other muscle group can do this.So no shit a few little calf raises isn't going to make it bigger, it requires a lifestyle change.
>>77418384personally, I like the leg press more for calves...do calves everydayVary the exercises, sets/repsJohn Meadows had some programs he released where there was calve training everyday some years ago, and that helped my calves grow quite a bit. use partials, and forced stretches. The one that always got me were the days when he's have you do 10 reps, then hold the contraction for 10 seconds, then repeat 2 more times for a single set. <- 3 sets of 30reps + 30 sec contraction. This will fucking humble you.
>>77418384Muscle maturity is something more relevant to tendons and certain muscles. Look at brians arms here. He only goes out when he's huge. The more roids you use for longer or the longer you have muscle and have high T the more mature your muscles look. This is what it looks like to need to lift and blast to keep muscle with it fluctuating so much it never really sets in.
>>77418471Yeah you're a weak faggot bitch and you should be beaten for it. Cry more.
>>77418514>30reps + 30 sec contraction.will increase the definition of the calf, but won't really increase total mass by much. Still missing the sheer volume increase needed to add serious weight to the calf.
>>77418384walk. a lot. that's it. i have a hunch tho that they also hugely depend on genetics, because both my father and i had massive calves even as dyels
>>77418530You're a fucking retardRead my whole comment, then read it again. Then once you've read it twice, read it a third time.
>>77418545the natural length of the muscle belly is genetic because it's based off insertions. it will determine your total leverage during the motion and how well you respond to individual weight during the motion, but it still just comes down to volume.if your father and you both have large calves, it means you actually have shit leverage and therefore have to apply drastic amounts more force during the movement (relative to anyone else's leverage) so the muscle has to respond by creating much more density to reach the normal human average.I'm in a similar boat, i've got 21 inch calves (larger than Arnold) and got it through careful stability of body weight and just walking.
>>77418552I did, I've read it twice, and a third time.There is nothing in your post that would even add a quarter of an inch to your calves unless you were a literal DYEL in noobgains territory.Giving advice when you've got sub 19 inch calves isn't advice worth listening to.
>>77418434You don’t need volume you need to go low rep. Pretend they are squats. 3 heavy set of 5 with linear progression
>>77418561This is bait and guaranteed calflet advice.
>>77418384rucking, calves like lots and lots of volume
>>77418526cry? i'll laugh at you as you lie bleeding in a ditch, beaten by the next lowlife
>>77418384>standing calf raise machineGarbage exercise that's a waste of time. If you want to hit calves hard then run outside in barefoot/minimalist shoes. No they don't have to be toe shoes, anything flat and basic that forces you to use a midfoot strike. Run 3-4 times a week, between a 5k to 10k, maybe make one session sprints. Ideally have some uphill too.The shoes force your feet and legs to take much more of each impact. They will be the limiting factor in how fast and far you can run, but you still make cardio gains. Just start off slow and give yourself time to adjust. It's a much better use of your time than fucking calf raises.
it's genetics. i'm a gymrat that works calves 3x week and they're mediocre overall, meanwhile my rich skinny friend does nothing all day except play ps5 and has calves that look like bowling balls
>>77418384>how the f do you grow calves ?>I'm doing calf raises on the leg press machine every other day but my progress is completely stalledFlat lander detected. I live in a mountainous area, full of hills and valleys. My home is built into a hillside. I am walking up and down stairs, up and down hill every single day. My calfs are great and I do ZERO calf exercises in the gym. Take the rural pill for maximum gainz.
>>77418560*Sighs* I feel bad for your mother for what she has to deal with. >Me: train calves everyday>(you): responds to a single example of of a calve exercise devoid of any contextYeah, training your calves everyday WILL help them grow. Important context clues you didn't understand in what I wrote:>do calves everydayYes, this is the advice I was giving. If you don't believe training your calves everyday will have any effect on your calves, then you're mentally disabled.>The one that always got meThis is where I give an example of they type of work that must be preformed to distinguish it from simply doing a few extra sets. I was not in any context suggesting that simply doing this one exercise will grow your calves. I so sorry that you're a zoomer who's reading comprehension is literally worse than a sack of potatoes. It's not your fault that schools opted out of using phonics to teach kids how to read.Since you're incapable of understanding what you read, I have little faith you'll even understand this. I consider this matter closed and will not be responding to your further screeching.
>>77418526*shoots you*Huh guess fighting is exactly like weightlifting in that it's a decadent modern hobby for self actualization (or normalfag peacocking if you're a hylic) and doesn't actually turn you into goku.
>>77418672>Sighs* I feel bad for your mother for what she has to deal with.nta but go back
>>77418384calf booba
>>77418388>>77418384>>77418545>>77418666304lb-213lb here, can confirm that being hefty and walking a lot (especially on uneven surfaces) makes your calves absolutely killer. Mine are huge and solid
>>77418680Nice asterisks larp nerd
>>77418702You know the deal. Post'em
>>77418709>>77418716Alright but please don't bully me for being a calflett or something
>>77418384It really just comes down to weight+volume+frequency, which is why fatties have big calves. The other main thing is to not wear big clunky shoes/boots with ankle supports so that your calves are forced to work more to stabilize your ankles when you walk.
>>77418719A bit more context, I'm 6'2 and my calves genuinely rock solid; I know visibly they aren't that impressive but they're very well developed
>>77418448Hahahaha >shrinks in fear at leg kickIf I know someone is going to leg kick me besides a side kick I'm eating it and knocking them out you watch too much B list athletes.
>>77418672>>>/lgbt/
Rucking hiking
>>77418384get on the leg press once maybe twice a week and get comfortable. Kick back and do calves. Toes pointing inward and outward until your calves have had enough.
>>77418880>spend 5 hours on a leg press for less calf gain instead of just walking and getting multiple muscles worked out at the same timejesus christ the power of india
>>77418880>>77418886calf raise machine, retards
>>77418894>bro pay a gym for less effective workout than going for a walkVery good Saar!+100 izzet to you
>>77418388>>77418394This is the best answer. People always give me compliments on my calves and I only have them because I used to be fat.I wear 9.5 shoes, so my feet aren't as small as they appear next to my calves.
>>77418901Powershitters keep telling this to me about weights.>Bro just lift more for less gains
>>77418520you're insane.
>>77418905Ironic shitposting is still shitposting Saar.-100 izzet from your social account.
>>77418384When I was a kid, I would ride my bicycle for at least an hour every day in a hilly neighborhood and I would always push myself to go up hills using big gears and I think that gave me big calves.My father is a jacked former farm boy at 6'4" and around 220lbs, while I'm a 6'5" 170lb lanklet, but my calves are quite a bit bigger than his.
>>77418907A deadlift maxes out at 1000lbs+Suitcase deadlift maxes out at barely 190lbs, less is more, lean is law, ywnbaw.
>>77418913>being so out of shape you can't go for a walk so you start talking about deadlifts and copingVery good Saar, Israel is our greatest ally Saar.Maybe you would provide a video of you deadlifting 400lbs Saar for posterity sake?Or a video of you walking 30 miles within a day?Oh you don't have either? I'm sorry Saar another -50 Izzet. You will now be reincarnated as a goat.
>>77418920Lil bro thinks "Anonymous" is 1 poster
>>77418924>saar saar we are of in having multiple postersoh we can tell.imagine coming onto a calf thread and schizo posting about deadlifts.We get you're upset, but you'll have to cope.
>>77418929>weShalom habibi
>>77418901walking doesn't build calves idiot
>>77418932>finally admitting you're a jeetwell now we can put that aside, you can also fuck off back to your containment boards.i'm so happy you're learning to cope.
>>77418934>heavy breathing intensifies
>>77418936>we
>>77418941Yes, we can tell when you an Indian are posting.It's a pretty common trait on here for people who aren't newfags.
>>77418942>you an Indian >we
are you guys acting like retards on purpose? you better not be.
>>77418772>I'm eating itYeah eat that high kick in your jaw little friend, surely nothing wrong will happen.
>>77418719looks like some regular ass calves to me. Being fat and slimming down doesnt work either I guess
>>77418581I know people who run 5k daily and they have skinny ass calves. Unless you want to post your calves, your advice is garbage just like the rest of this thread
>>77418384>be fat and slim down>walk a lot>walk a lot on hills>run a lot on hills>run a lot on your toes on hills>train calves every dayLiterally every single one of these is garbage tier advice when it comes to calves. Post calves to prove otherwise
>>77419048Alright now YOU post calves if they're so regular
>>77419068missing the point you former fat retard. this thread is about giving good advice and proving with calves. why do you think im here?
>>77419053okay if those are all garbage tier advices, what is your advice then?
>>77419088Im here for advice and im just listing all the ones that are restated by people with small calves or never trained calves. Ive tried all of these, along with jump roping, except becoming fat and slimming down. But from what I can see by the fatty in this thread, his calves are regular too. This site is just filled with people who dont workout from what I can tell by this thread
>>77419080I'm aware; I just wanted to get more people to post calves honestly. Also mine are at least a little above average :(
>>77419118cute toes , would suck
>>77419120Thanks vro <3
>>77419050Running shoes are designed to absorb as much impact as possible, it does not compare to running in minimalist shoes like https://www.amazon.com/WHITIN-Minimalist-Barefoot-Sneakers-Treadmill/dp/B07KN4NF44 for a cheap simple example. Again ideally uphill. I live in the mountains and my route is 5% climb average to the turning point whether I run 5k or 10k. Calf raises suck and have never recreated the tension or doms I feel from a run.5'11 189lbs, 15% bodyfat. 220lbs 25-30% at my fattest ever. Just over 17" calves. Feel free to post yours.
>>77419118Yes they are, he's just being a faggot because nothing is working for him. The reality is you'll >>77419095 find all that same advice on every single fitness community on the internet when the discussion is growing calves, and that's because that's legitimately the best we've got. You probably already knew about all of these things and were hoping for a silver bullet method that somehow everyone else missed, but there isn't one. Either your calves grow with the shit listed in this thread, or they don't.
>>77419126Pretty legs
im 6'1 and i've got 18 inch calves without targeted training on them. total mogging on the gymcels
>>77419126I have done the same thing youve done and my calves are 16 5/8". Like I said, ive done it all and my calves still look small to me when I look down. Pls stop shilling running as good calf exercise, especially which HOW MUCH RUNNING you have to fuckin do on a near daily basis
>>77419129Its not working for you or anyone else either. Unless you train like a soccer player, your calves are small. Get over yourself about the whole running bullshit
>>77419141I have a little over 19" calves at 5'10", calf raises and sprinting up hills work just fine for me. Keep throwing a tantrum and lashing out at others over a genetic issue that none of us can resolve for you.
>>774191385k and 10k do not take that long lol, and only 3-4 days a week. You should be doing that regardless of calf obsession. Might as well do them uphill in meme shoes to get more out of that time. 2-3 minutes spent running is so much better than 1 minute of calf raises in the gym.
>>77419155Post calves and prove you right. So far its all been regular ass calves here. >>77419158yea i used to do 5k per day which took me about 27 min to do. I feel like my calves got skinnier and tighter if anything. Shut the fuck up about 5ks or 10ks
>>77419166You must have regular calves too anon, you should post them and show off how regular they are
>>77418384https://youtu.be/8xaJkVzzsAs?is=mEmtPTmyBk1hteI6
>>77419166Calfcel detected. You will always have tiny calves
>>77419178>>77419191>no picsWhat a surprise, garbage tier advice all around here
>>77418384High calf insertions and they way calves look with high calves are maybe the most genetic-controlled of all the resistance training adaptations. I'd recommend sprinting up hills (or inclined treadmill), pushing off the balls of your feet, over calf raises, if you have high calves. Long achilles tendon is meant for superior running, so use it.
>>77418951>no argumentUh oh calflet alarm
>>77419166You sound like an ESL jeet with how much you are complaining while ignoring my main argument. BAREFOOT SHOES you dumb nigger. Your calves are mini trampolines in your legs, wearing cushy trampolines on your feet allows them to be lazy. Barefoot shoe running is terrible if running fast and far and frequently is your goal, /roon/ will call you a clown, but they are perfect for calves while still making cardio gains.I didn't even start running in barefoot shoes for my calves, I didn't really care about that. I switched to them because I have shitty knees. Wearing them with a midfoot strike forces my foot, heel, and calf to take the impact instead of my knees, it feels much better to me. I wear them for everything in my life - job, gym, going out, etc.Other than that my advice would be to pick up autistic toe walking. Whenever you're barefoot walk exclusively on your toes like a toddler with a learning disability, for the rest of your life. Enjoy the gains.
>>77418434Lmao, is it still 1965 anon
>>77419220Waste of time, it's a jeet 80% of the time if you have to explain a very basic concept more than once
>>77418384Weighted uphill walks.
How to train calves by schizo in chief Lyle McDonald https://youtu.be/mPgM3Ba0HCE?si=OZLjja9k-reN-N7V
>>77418384Genetics. I'd been a hungry skeleton for my entire life, but my legs were always huge.
>>77418561You need weight and volume. If you can't do 8x25 at your squat weight you're never going to make it.
>>77419220My knees are fine throughout the day but ache at night no matter what I did during the day. Think barefoot shoes would help with that?
If your calves are small it's because you're not doing cardio
>>77418680Funny how the website that hates niggers turns into one when they can't truly defend themselves. I have guns too, bitch. Try me.
>>77419415Cardio doesn't build calves. You posers are easy to spot. You don't run.
>>77419499And you don't post body, saar.
>>77419507Why would I post my tiny runner's calves you fucking tranny?
>>77418384time under tension exercises, tiptoe walks all the time when you are barefoot, calf raises but with lengthy pauses in the bottom position, donkey calf raises
>>77418384>>77418388I was fat for 20 years, had a 6 year stint as a waiter where I walked some 12km every day on stairs, and my calves got fucking massive.I'm down from 138 to 92kg now, and my calves are nearly the same circumference as my thighs now
>>77418480This applies to all muscles, but people aren't ready for this trvke.
Skip rope
>>77419201The ancient greeks saw those "high" calves as the sign of a born coward. Just fyi.
>>77419585cause there's no point in rooning otherwise >>77418384it's almost as if upright walking is what calves are made for, like when you carry something in front of you and look around for the recipient or enemy dog with your head high
>>77419118Those are about as average as they could be
>>77418384the calf can be targeted by doing lunges and weighted (not body weight) squatsYou can also do this exercise in this picture with a resistance band. It doesn't look like much but this is actually one of the only calf isolation exercises there is
>>77418384tiptoeing
>>77419519Is this chart how fast you were going?
>>77419220>barefoot running is the secret anon!>its so basicMore garbage tier advice from dyels
>>77420049>>77419126post body
>>77419450Niggers shoot each other over nothing. Shooting someone because theyre trying to attack you is completely justified. Also, intentionally being aggressive over the topic of calf muscles is also nigger behavior. If youre bringing up fighting over somebody talking about bodybuilding, youre insecure and no amount of peacocking with martial arts or guns is going make you right. Everyone sees you as a low IQ, inferior, nigger spawn. And the fact that you cant automatically comprehend this, tells people you dont have the mental fortitude to become proficient at martial arts or utilizing firearms in the first place.
>>77419450>I have guns toothen why didn't you shoot back?
>>77418388This but cycling. I ballooned up to 230lb (5'9") rode my bike upto 200 miles a week to lose the weight now I've got gorgeous muscly calves
>>77420083This is about getting advice from people who found success in getting large calves. Post calves to prove your garbage advice works or shut the fuck up.
>>77418719Your feet look like they have down syndrome.
>>77420145So you're not just a whiny loser, you're also illiterate. Probably fat and bnrown too.
>>77420154>Tried all the common advice>Even bare foot running>All garbage tier advice>You need to listen to me anon!! These work!!!! No i wont post pics of my calves!!!!Post calves or shut the fuck up about your dyel advice.
>>77420170>Post calvesYou are too fucking stupid to see I already did 16 hours ago. If you weren't an illiterate fuck and actually followed the thread you would have seen that. I even directly linked the post when I replied to you, but that was still too hard for you to figure out. Insufferable faggot, I hope you never make it.
>>77420173Let me guess, less than 17inch at the biggest part. If so, please shut the fuck up. You got the most average looking calves for someone who claimed to have done work on them. Not saying mine are bigger but they are relatively the same at 16inches. Unless you got 19"+, shut the fuck up with your dyel advice
>>77418384Explosive training, pick up 120lbs and jump with it, your calves will grow.
>>77420188>17 inches averageyour expectations are absurd kid.a skinny guy with 17 inch calves is huge calves.a fat guy with 20+ calves are mediocre.kill yourself.
>>77420250That guy is probably the same jeet from yesterday here >>77419166
>>77420254>spend an hour yesterday giving good advice and calling jeets out on being jeets>you must be a jeetit's all so tiresome, you deserve eachother.and you deserve to be the calflet you are.
>>77420250>>77420254I think your ego is getting in the way, especially when multiple anons say you got average looking calves, which they are. If people wanted average calves, this thread wouldnt exist. Let me be specific since your dyel minds cant comprehend, pic related
>>77419126Is this supposed to be impressive?
>>77418388I'm doing goblet squats and seeing the beauty in my quad muscles forming is insane. Im still fat as shit but my legs are starting to look great.
>>77420274You're clearly confused anon.You're projecting a lot.I stated clearly>a skinny man with 17 inch calves is impressivewhich it isthe part you're confused about is assuming I am that person.I have 21 inch calves, they are the size of the average mans thighs and are fucking huge.I am also 210lbs athletic build and not particularly skinny nor am I fat since I sit at 16% almost year roundBy the way the guy you posted has small calves compared to me, much smaller.lurk moar before posting anon.I got big calves by maintaining weight and hiking, there is no trick.If you maintain weight above a threshold and keep walking, your calves will simply grow to match. That is why fat and large people have bigger calves.No amount of time in the gym will ever compare, never. You can spend every day training calves and you will never even get close to my size just from walking around daily.Volume is king.Better start coping.
>>77420311Got any tips for growing upper body muscles?
>>77420311>I have much bigger calves>lurk more>hikingjesus christ, post pics or shut the fuck up about your tiny little calves
>>77420326I balance a twice weekly split between heavy lifting in the gym and calisthenics for mobility in inverse fashion with the exception of abs which get worked out daily and on Wed have a full regiment both in the gym and out of the gym.Examples would beMonday Chest (Gym)/Legs calisthenics Tuesday Back (Gym)/Shoulder calisthenicsWed Abs Gym+calInverse TuesdayInverse MondayDaily cardio, Saturday speciality training.I started doing this about ten years ago, it allows me to maintain the numbers appropriate for gym work while pushing extreme hypertrophy due to my larger frame and body weight in relation to calisthenics.I hike daily and supplement with bike riding if I feel like I have too much energy. So calves are often overstimulated in relation to this thread.This build allows double workouts weekly for each muscle group, allows large variations in stabilization muscle groups, and prevents excessive fatigue and injury since the calisthenics side can be modulated at demand depending on your needs.Since your body weight is greater than 200lbs, your body weight is appropriate for such movements in hypertrophy amounts.If you weigh sub 200lbs, you would get more from just double weekly workouts in a gym. Since your body doesn't really have the weight needed to make calisthenics worthwhile in regards to muscle building.
>>77420342>heavy breathing intensifiesuh oh he mad
>>77420363that was pretty cute. as expected, no pics from the dyel
>>77419749Mommy every woman should do that with their shoes off
>>77418384Greg the mailman is also only 5ft 6.I got bigger calves by running, just easy running zone 2 stuff but at least an hour 3 times a week. You've just got to use them more and they'll grow. I still train my legs but since I've had a back injury and been unable to run I can see my calves getting smaller so now I'm gonna get on the bike instead.
>>77419050That's because they're runners and are actively managing their weight to be as small as possible. If you're weight training and eating for muscle growth then your calves will grow with running. You just need to run regularly, not even fast, just zone 2 for about an hour a time. Think about where your calves are on your legs compared to your arms. It's like trying to build bigger forearms. You've got to put absolutely mountains of volume through them. You need to absolutely smash them every day
>>77418448Sir this is a non-nigger thread, we don't fight strangers every week
>>77418384progressive overload - up the weight in a moderate rep range. the shape is out of your hands but once you reach a point where you can't lift anymore with a moderate volume, then you probably reached your genetic limit
>>77420378>no pics from the dyelexactly, don't see no pictures from you or timestamp.that's why you're mad brother, enjoy this knowledge rejoice yay. for you are a faggot.
get nothern lion autism calves
>>77418384I once posted my calves and /fit/ gave me a ton of shit for it. are my calves ugly and misshapen? /fit/ told me that I look like i use steroids or that my calves are mutant and ugly. i just wanted validation. i'm 5'11 and 205 and a cis white male if that's helpful.
>>77422321looks insane to me anon. they probably have small calves
>>77422321post your calf/running routine NOW
>>77422366I do 15-30 minutes on the treadmill at 2-3mph but max incline. Hit my legs 2x a week, including barbell calf raises for 4x15 and leg press calf raises for 4x20. I figure if i can squat it, I can calf raise it.
>>77422321Nice anon, that’s what everyone’s striving for. These are my 50+ miles of walking weekly for over a decade calves. Simply walking in high volume will result in shapely calves, but not bigger. Mine are exactly 16” at 5’10”/190lbs…have to increase the tension hardcore to make them actually grow.
>>77422321>>77422508looks like ball sacks stuck inside your calves. what the fuck are htese?
>>77422923It’s what happens when your legs aren’t covered in a 3 inch layer of fat
>>77422508Those are really shitty looking calves tbdesu, your insertions are terrible >>77420274These are aesthetic
>>77418719>>77419118>>77419126HOT FEET
>>77418384High incline treadmill with added weight.
>>77419126literally why the FUCK can't you retards wear socks when you take a picture? jesus christ man
>>77420150Just because they're wide and flat? Rude..
>>77418384get your reps in
>>77423256Don't listen to this guy (if you're a white boy)
>>77418384As many have said just be in a calorie surplus, have a lot of weight on you, and walk a lot. You don't have to get fat just go for a daily walk with 50-100lbs strapped to you in any way you can handle and eat enough to make sure you can actually grow muscle.
>>77423126Insertions are the “genetics” of your calves. A long Achilles tendon gets you this, while a short Achilles is easier to build mass on. Still have to put in insane amounts of volume to have a visual effect on either.
>>77418384How do you get muscles on the front and not only on the back? Honestly I don't like how those back calf muscles look they are pretty gay, can you get front muscles instead? Like a bicep and tricep for leg or something
>>77418391n
>>77423646Do some form of exercise that gives you shin splints
