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Are they worth it?
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I figure a few sets of kettlebell OHP and dips twice a week is perfect for chest, back muscles are more important anyway
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>>77420354
Ohp for chest?
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>>77420408
I'm gonna guess he meant he's doing them as well for shoulders and the dips are for the chest and that should cover him. I would definitely include push ups as they're great at hitting the core too.
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>>77420325
Yes
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>>77420325
Dips are excellent for chest development. Ring push-ups are also underrated
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>>77420325
SOME SWEAR BY THEM,
OTHERS BLOW OUT THEIR SHOULDERS,
I AVOIDED THEM,
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>>77420354
Dips for super low chest and KB ohp for super upper chest part i figure.
Then lat raises andfor mid Delta and rows do back delts.

I could be retarded though
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>>77420325
ive started to do super deep rom dips on the assisted machine for tris. locked or keyed?
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>>77420325
I've completely replaced bench with weighted dips. It feels so much better for me. I've also replaced OHP with landmine press.
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>>77420638
>assisted machine
why even bother
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>>77420653
because if youre not a twink going full rom is risking blowing out your shoulder
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I fucking love dips bros
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>>77420655
>full rom blows shoulder
Im glad my shoulders aren't made of glass KWAB
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>>77420325
Great way to tear your rotator cuff.

Dips are top tier, just don't add weight. Slow down and rep them out instead. You've been warned. Took 1.5 year to heal
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>>77420325
Yes.
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>>77420325
Fucks your shoulders
Do bench like all the normal people
Everyone i know doing dips as a cope for their sub-3pl bench
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>>77420325
I've started doing these in the park where I found some bars, and I don't feel these in my triceps at all. Great for chest
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>>77420325
Every cost/risk analysis of lifting starts with your anatomy. Yes it's possible to have shoulders or leverages that make this lift far riskier or less beneficial.
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>>77420325
>Are they worth it?
Yes, I alternate every 2 days between bench press and dips. It's easier on the old tendonitis.
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>>77420831
>Fucks your shoulders
Fix your form
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>>77420844
I bench, nothing to fix
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>>77420840
If you are going all the way down with considerable weight then rip your shoulders. Do that shit with lighter weight until it is a stronger movement unless your goal is to win a pissing contest.
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>>77420828
I do these on the rails right outside my house. They're great.
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>>77421386
You are lucky to have something that you don't have to open hand
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>>77420325
I would rather bench 80-90%
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>>77420831
>Fucks your shoulders
>Do bench
Meanwhile irl with dips your shoulder joint can move freely, and everybody who benches for any length of time develops fucked up shoulders
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>>77421402
Dips are the first thing I can't do heavy
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>>77421410
That's what it feels like when you do exercise that is beneficial and actually trains something - you cannot do it heavy.
Same reason why you can deadlift 1000lbs but struggle to lift up a basket of eggs on your granpa's farm, timmie.
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>>77420655
Die the opposite for me. I often woke up with shoulder pain or while on the pec fly. Doing deep slow dips made my shoulders bulletproof. Just make sure to warm up your rotator cuff.
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>>77420325
I don't think they are. The shearing forces with weighted dips are immense. I've done 100kg for paused reps @110kg bwm
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>>77420325
i can't do them at all so i guess yes
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>>77421743
how fat are you
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>>77420325
God tier, my pecs and delts are nice and juicy thanks to these and ohp
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>>77422214
i'm the obesest fat retard in the world
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>not ring dips
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>>77420354
>>77420571
I love these lifts but I have to add dumbbell incline press to hit upper chest a little more. I was impressed with how much the old timey single arm overhead lifts work.
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>>77420835
They can be done several different ways.



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