I'm a 18% bf dyel, cutting till I reach 10% but I'm conflicted on the heckin' protein intake. Everyone tells me that I need 150g protein or otherwise I'll lose all the muscle. I feel like a dyel like me would be okay even with 90g. Going from 75kg to 65kg btw.
>>77421524yep its just a meme, don't worry about it
>>77421524No, protein synthesis goes to absolute dog shit efficiency on a cut. You need more more protein cutting than bulking because of it. This is exacerbated even more by aging.
>>77421529How do I get 160g of protein from proper sources if I can only eat 1800 kcal? I'm poor as shit too.
>>77421537Pretty much just chicken, tuna, whey, lowfat cottage cheeseProtein is 4kcal a gram that's 640 kcalYou got 1160 kcal of leeway for the rest of it.
>>77421524>>77421537>18% bf dyel>cutting till 10%>1800 kcalSomething's not adding up here. Are you exercising at all or just hoping to do it with diet alone?
>>7742152418% to 10% without lifting or cardio (I assume you dont workout because it was omitted) is difficult unless you just starve yourself. If youre not working out to gain anything, what is there to lose?
>>77421542That kind of dieting is absolutely unnecessary. Cutting that hard is worse than drinking by a lot.
>>77421642Got a BIA scan done (I know it's not accurate) and the results were>76.5kg weigth>35.5kg SMM>13.3kg Fat Mass>63.4kg FFM >17.3% bfI was retarded enough to bulk up as a skinny fat cuck so right now my choice is just to cut to 63kg. Will start bulking from there.
>>77421524If ur a dyel why do u want to get to 10 percent u fucking retard wtf
>>77421652It isn't and you're fat for thinking that. Anyways I wasn't telling him to do a p-smf I was just listing cheap sources that make it easy to hit with a caloric limit. Unlike peas, and lentils which can make a lot of your protein on a bulk aren't so easy to use on a cut.
>>77421524You can only synthesize 0.8g/lb of approximate LEAN body mass under ideal conditions you can eat a little bit more than that to help you lean out but going to extreme intake fucks your mass retention, blood pressure and more
>>77421537Sounds like you're overdoing protein If you're 160@20% bf you can only synthesize about 100g a day
>>77421529This is retardedYour body slows synthesis to work on other things (surviving)Bogging your system down with even more protein is the most retarded thing you can doYou want high test which requires a good fat and carb intake, a (too) high protein intake tanks your test and fucks your physique
>>77421658Ok yeah that's good info about your starting point.But there's a question you haven't answered yet regarding your activity level.
>>77421814I do full body every other day.
>>77421778Not gonna happen on a deficit. Your test falls off a cliff doesn't matter if it's 10% or 50% of tdee. Protein doesn't bog down anything in a healthy body with healthy kidneys and liver. You don't have multiple systems competing for lipids until you're very lean and you've reached the point where fat mobility is the bottleneck and oxidation almost unlimited. At that point by all means add 10-12g of saturated fat and 20g of whatever else but this isn't going to really affect test much since the issue there isn't production it's release.
>>77421831As you get lower bf you may find that hard to keep up. It's very helpful if you can walk a lot.
>>77421524>Is protein a meme for cuttingno>I feel like a dyel like me would be okay even with 90gyou should eat 150g every day no matter if gaining or losing weight
>>77421856I work part time on weekends, getting in 22k steps during weekends and 10k steps regularly.
>>77421524You only need like 1g/kg of protein to maintain muscle. To be honest though I would suggest trying to build muscle, however little, and stick with maybe 1.2-1.4g/kg.
>>77421524Protein is a myth created by Jews to get you to buy useless products, eat a bunch of animal flesh (so they can profit on cures for heart diseases) and distract you well they eat children, allegedly. I noticed on a cut or bulk the only thing that matters is carbs, everything else is a "meme".
>>77422450>goys wonder why they get insulin-resistant and can't build muscleNot a ketoschizo btw, that's a horrible diet also. But just eat some damn (((brotein))) even if it's plantslop; you don't need like 2g/lb/day or anything but going under 0.3g/lb/day is generally a really bad time.
>>77422461What's wrong with "plantslop". AFAIK it's just schizo ramblings about muh tranny high estrogen, buzzword, buzzword.
>>77421524Your body can use protein for the amino acids or use it for energy (very inefficiently). If you are cutting your retarded body might decide to save its blubber and burn protein for energy and maybe even cannibalize your muscles. So you need lots of excess protein to signal your body to not be stupid.
>>77423889Why does it work in such a retarded way. I though muh fat is stored in case you'll need those calories. I guess muscles are more easily accessible
>>77423909There's differnt fats and they're all metabolized the same way but they're mobilized differently (where you body actually uncouples the lipids and spits them out of the cells to be burned). For instance beige and brown fatpads have nerves going to them that signal them to release. White fat just kind releases whenever insulin is low. As far as protein being being stolen from muscles that's more something that happens on a longer time frame. In the absence of aminos it robs them from your intestine and smooth muscle first because it regenerates the easiest and doesn't need any signal to do so. So in a sense yes we can store very finite quantities of certain aminos that way but like how a bank generates intrest through using your money for loans and other stuff it's never not being used.
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