How do I lose less wide and barrel-y from the side?
Should I do stomach vacuums?

>>77428716
look*

oopsie

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>>77428241
you sound neurotic as fuck. luckily test usually cures that.

Heres a tip, just buy some pre steralized vials, like 50mL.
Couple of bucks
Then buy some benzyl alcohol, you only need half a mL per vial.
Couple of bucks
Then buy a 1L bag of sterile water for injection
Couple of bucks
Then buy a syringe filter if you're a stress head, which you are.
Couple of bucks

Now you have a lifetime supply of BAC water, and can shut the fuck up and do something that actually improves your physique like lifting weights or eating a better diet

>>77428649
Steroids are free upgrade as a man. Even if youre a clueless retard, they'll still work. Just look at all the clueless boomers doing random drug combos, and they still developed enough muscle to be top 5% of males.

The only people who "cant do" steroids are rhe neurotic autists who placebo thenselves into sides. Like the retards who say 200mg test is "giving them insomnia". Just be pin and chill and youll get huge.

>>77428841
Can you redpill me on the face aging and shit what compounds DONT cause aging or fucked up shit aesthetically

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>>77428649

>>77428860
Androgens lower skin elasticity I guess, but most "face aging" is just sun damage. Niggas dont have that raggedy look white roid bros do.
Makes sense too when gear bros want to walk around shirtless.

Balding and acne is a common issue tho, this can be mostly mitigated with a 5ar inhibitor, Accutane/Tretinoin (you decide), and a topical anti androgen for hair.

>health
Take meds and ancillaries to manage your sides. I will say though probably every gear user should use Eztetimibe and possibly a low dose of a statin. All androgens will fuck your lipids

Why does EQ get trashed

>>77428976
by who? tranny gymfluencers? EQ is goated

>>77428860
is mostly the result of being low body fat.
The rest is just 4chan memes

>>77429008
How much should I run for a cut

>>77429105
idk i dont do cardio

>>77428976
Because its a weaker testosterone with more side effects. It's overly hematopoietic, crashes e2, does weird things to e1, and aromatises to horse estrogen in your brain, and it 5-alpha reduces to hepatotoxic DHB

>>77429193
>horse estrogen in your brain
Have not heard that one before

>>77429279
yeah it's weird stuff. This guy did a fantastic deep dive into boldenone. He explains the horse estrogen and kidney effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gb_F7w1O1g

Basically it aromatises into equilin analogues invisible to LCMS testing

Some other negatives of boldenone is that it creates a chronic hypoxia like stress response in the brain contributing to its anxiogenic effects

>Worse temper and irritation on NPP than Tren
I hate niggers

Reposting
>Mechanistically, why are 17α-alkylated AAS found to be hepatotoxic?

>>77429409
Doing roids has made me less racist. Niggas and Cholos respect me now that I'm jacked and cute brown girls want my cock. Thanks, /fraud/!

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>>77428869
>is there something here that upsets u, anon?
>>tfw he reaches inside and milks you like a sow
>>except ur too scared of real pleasure u fucking bitch

my vial of test had liquid on top of it before i pinned and there was silicone at the bottom. barely used any of it. still new to this but do i need to toss the vial now? i will be fuckin pissed bc idk if I can buy more atm. or can I store it in a plastic bag and seal it with some alcohol on a little paper towel so it remains sterile? the seal came looking like it was filled with a huge fucking needle, salty as fuck. if there’s suppliers who don’t cut corners like that a ref would be appreciate

I like steroids

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natty?

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How to prevent roid induced facial againg/roidface?

>>77429984
By not roiding.

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>>77428860
My skin and face look better since roids
It's being super, competition levels of lean that makes you look haggard
I do usually run collagen synthesis increasing compounds on top of test(which reduces it by a little) more for joint recovery and healing though
EQ, anavar, deca plus some hgh are my go to compounds besides test
Primo works too but isn't worth it to me
Sporadically run some mast, halo or dbol but those are neutral or slightly negative as far as collagen goes
Up to 1g of test, 1g of eq and 400mg deca simultaneously without skin/face issues beyond some water retention if e2 runs too high
It goes without saying you should manage the detrimental roid sides like blood pressure so you don't look like a fucking tomato
Besides that there's no much to it on the roid front
Basic stuff applies, don't get sunburnt or tan heavily, use some reasonable face derm products like a wash and moisturizer if you are really worried that much
you'll look younger compared to your sedentary nonroiding peers just putting in minimal effort and not being a dumb ass and running 1g of tren or some shit

TLDR eat as much jizz as possible

>>77428976
I absolutely wrecked myself with EQ like an idiot, I was using 2:1 test eq and I still crashed my shit. Felt horrific for weeks because like an idiot I didn't have any rescue HCG/dbol/estradiol.

>>77430175
Add like 5g glycine to your protein shakes, eat a few pork rinds once in a while. Noticeably improved my skin. Also, pantethine is a great supplement, cleared some minor acne issues I was having, also has a positive effect on lipids to boot.

>>77428649
Just call the general /sodomites/
You fucking cheating losers haha

>>77429908
You aren't ready for gear

>>77430295
post physique

Should I add primo to my tren cycle y/n

>>77430445
you should add tren to your tren cycle

1KG OF TREN

>>77428976
Because people dont know how to use it properly:
>IT CRASHES E2!!!!!
No it doesnt. But USING TOO MUCH will.
So if you're not retarded you can adjust your dose and use it as an AI so you dont have to take AI.
Of course all these side effects are highly individual. I never had the appetite increase from EQ that so many people swear by.

>>77430567
>>77430678
LET'S GOOO

I think I will hit calves first today instead if ending with them.

>>77428841
Underrated

>>77430751
Go hard or go home no walking tomorrow big boy
You got this

>>77430794
It’s actually really nice so far, I always forget how good they feel pumped. Now I have to kill myself via zerkers.

never done any orals but got some dbol what should i expect when i add it to my next cycle?

>>77430969
Its a steroid, so expect steroid-like effects.
jfc you fucking kids are so damn useless.

>>77430794
>>77430839
oooh what are your favorite calf exercises? i just do 4-5x20 seated raises at the end. works, but i should be doing something else in the session to really make myself regret my life choices

>>77430969
Swelling of your muscles and a more rounded pump (also a very annoying lower back pump kek)

Probably rounder face as well but dbol also makes you feel good (a question of estrogen rly)

>>77430976
Standing one legged calf raises. I’m limited on equipment so I do 15x5 with dumbells.

anyone else find on tren you want to be perpetually horny, but you don't actually want to fuck or cum

I swear I'm getting off more to the deranged fantasies playing in my head and the actual act is almost disappointing in comparison

bros know wtf I'm talking about?

>>77429409
Cut cycle
NPP 200mg a week and Tbol 20mg daily
Reta 4mg a week

What does /fit/ think

>>77430972
you ok anon?
>>77431026
sweet eq made me workout like a horse will dbol be similiar?

>>77429294
By that same logic shouldn’t tren be converting into cow hormones

>>77431080
I know the video is long and he uses big words that hurty ur hed, but thats not the same logic used to determine the estrogenic metabolites of boldenone.

>>77429825
cute brown girls like me too and i still hate niggers cholos are cool tho since they kill niggers

>>77429294
EQ also converts to small amounts of DHB in the body. Fun fact

>>77431065
I was angry like I was hate fucking them for being whores, but it would fade after cooming and we'd spoon.
>>77431066
That's kind of counter productive.

>>77431091
That sounds like a good thing, DHB is a powerful compound

I’m 5 days without tren. I stopped after 3 weeks.

I prefilled 2 syringes of .30ML and never used them. I have half a vial left.

They look at me, every time I pass by my medicine cabinet

>>77431161
powerful at causing drug induced liver injury

>>77431067
Nah you'll need taurine to combat the lb pump cuz it can be crazy.
EQ literally gives u an EPO effect as a result of the increased rbc n blood volume.

Dbol is cool no doubt. My personal fave oral is var because it's so mild and awesome. I"ve tried them all but OT

>>77431161
I have the file somewhere that breaks down conversion percentage. Its a fairly high amount of EQ to convert to reasonable amounts of DHB.

I've ran DHB twice and while its not a bad compound I found it to be underwhelming at doses below 700mg.
How was your experience if you don't mind me asking?

>>77431066
Counter productive indeed.
Why would you cut on two bulking compounds lol? Do you even have test in there

>>77430969
I’m on day 5 of 30mg. Crazy pumps. Get some taurine

Pinned mast and primo into my delt and now it’s all swollen and painful. Normal pip or did I fuck something up

>>77431412
is there heat intense pain or redness/lines around the injection site? If you press on the lump (don't press on or rub it a bunch try to leave it be) is it solidly a lump or does it soften inwards at the very center compared to the rest? Does it radiate pain, do you have fever?

if no to all that shit and it's just a hard squishy uncomfortable lump it's just a pocket of oil leave it alone

>>77431048
ah that'd be good. get the hips core & glutes goin too, right? thanks!

>>77431065
tren = horny. high prolactin = eh. fix your prolactin. keep on your ai, and add p5p as a preventative

>>77431267
>Counter productive indeed.
>Why would you cut on two bulking compounds lol? Do you even have test in there

>uh bro Tten and Var is for cutting and DBOL and nandrolone is for bulking
>Why, retard?
>bro its just lile the shit bro, y know?
Hang yourself retard

>>77431650
Stick to Reddit good sir!

>>77431661
Pray tell, what about my post is "reddit". Its obvious youre a gorilla retard reflexively reaching to whatever of 5 insults you have programmed. There is no true thought between your skull, leave us.

>>77431669
>*tips fedora*

>>77431696
I would be on reddit and meso if I wasn't banned, bonobo retard

I love Tren but it doesn’t love me…

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>I USE TREN, DUDE
>750MG DUDE
>IT'S MY FIRST CYCLE
>IT'S TREN DUDE
>I'M SO CRAZY LOL, I USE TREN

>>77431650
>why
Tren spikes your metabolism like crazy and you literally burn off carbs through thermogenesis (causing the notorious sweats), putting the data all over the place. Sure you can eat more and likely gain more muscle but there are way better compounds for bulking my personal fave being EQ.
You're literally using a tool the wrong way instead of playing to it's strengths.

There are however some not so obvious compounds that work great for either. One being Anadrol, typically shilled for bulking but which is in fact great for cutting because it will keep your glycogen stores topped up, strength up (you'll even make str gains so make sure your tendons are up to the task) and also fucking tank your appetite.

>>77431963
>Pic unrelated

>>77431267
>bulking compounds
retard

>>77432045
My problem with EQ is I eat everything in the house and get fat on it
Shit turns me into a garbage disposal of food
Fun though

>>77431536
No redness or heat but it’s swollen and hurts like fuck when I move it. Probably should not have pinned delts

>>77431267
How about EQ instead of NPP?
The tbol I keep because I dont have var or other orals

>>77432663
NTA, but WHY are you picking these compounds for your cut?
I cut with test, andarol and ozempic.
I take test because you need a test base.
I take anadrol because glp-1s crash my blood pressure and anadrol raises it.
The doses are selected by my overall body mass, how deep a calorie deficit, side effect etc.
I didnt just wake up one morning and pull shit out my ass the way you seem to be doing it

>>77432693
EQ is fine as a cutting compound if you don’t get the appetite increase or have decent self discipline. That said, my go to is test, dhb, maybe mast, maybe a little tren, maybe some anavar instead. What I use for the third compound depends on what my goals are but I generally keep doses pretty low (unless I’m running mast and then it’s 500-750 mg). Usually I just want to look full and stay reasonably strong which pretty much any anabolic will do but I do agree that NPP, for example, isn’t going to be best utilized for cutting simply because I get so fucking watery on it. I also do a shit ton (12-15 hrs a week) of cardio and anything that increases weight is going to make that a lot harder. So for me, it strictly dry compounds. I can see going with something totally different if you were like, a powerlifter trying to drop a weight class.

>>77432660
keep an eye signs of infection but it should improve in time. sounds like it's just irritated from the carrier oil p common

My blood tests just came back good after a solid year of 300 test 100 deca

>>77432663
You can cut on anything if you aren’t trying to be a pro bodybuilder we don’t care if you retain a little water during your cut. Just taking test and Reta should be all you need though

>>77432830
Thats what I’m doing now. 200mg test a week and reta. Just thought I should add something

>>77432818
I don't even want to see anyone's bloods anymore. I want to see before:after pics of
1
>hairline
2
>physique

and we gauge success from the value of the trade off