How do Japs manage to remain so thin despite eating carbs and fat?
>>77432242Self control
Carbs and fat have nothing to do with gaining fat. It’s all about calories in vs calories out
>>77432242Mostly fish and veg.
Have you ever seen a Jap eat? They eat very little. It literally doesn't matter what the fuck you eat. What matters is how much of it.
>>77432242By not eating much fat or carbs.
>>77432242They eat baby portions and they rarely snack throughout the day. It all comes down to calorie intake, and theirs are generally lowThat, and they're a lot more physically active than Americans. Americans don't walk anywhere, they think walking or cycling makes you a loser and tie way too much of their self worth to their cars, I'll bet the average burger gets less than 2000 steps on a typical day, so they don't burn any calories hardly. It's pretty standard for japs to walk miles at a time, there's even vending machines all over the place to accommodate this and dispense water which is needed in summer
>>77432242japanese diet is lower in fat than every developed country's
>>77432242By cooking healthy meals at home most of the time. Gaijin gain weight when they move there because the resturants are full of tasty fatty options
Guys I heard fat is a nutrient lol
>>77432242NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKING CARBORINO AND FATORINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>77432269facts. listen a tuna rice bowl should be enough to be fed throughout the day till dinner
C I C O
They average 7000 steps per day. Glucose gets sucked up by their legs, keeping insulin down.
>>77432242>carbs are le bad Educate yourself lil nigga
>>77432242They walk alotSame reason Italians aren't all ham planets despite eating boatloads of pasta
>>77432242They eat small portions, thats literally it.
>>77432242they culture adheres to CICO
>>77432252>>77432257>>77432364>>77432401>>77432470Nooo I'm the ketoschizo to spam you with my worthless links and graphs to show you it's all hormones!!!
CICO obviously. Also they don't each much fat at all. It's easier to stay thin when you aren't eating much of something that has over 100 calories in a tablespoon.
>>77432242>Westernfat can't comprehend portions>Westernfat can't compehend self-controlOwari da
>>77432242asian genes
>>77432242Their food isn't highly palatable or fried in oil. And when they are, it's from a vending machine, and even if they get it from that, it's a small portion and decently passable ingredients. Oh and A LOT of walking.
>>77432421Do Italians even eat pasta like that? Even sopranos made a point to show that they pretty much eat fish.
>>77432242japs are mostly skinnyfat
>>77432242They're also turbomanlets and extremely weak
>>77432242reheated rice. it's called retarded starch or something like that. make a pot of rice, one bowl fresh then let the rest cool down and eat reheated rice. it doesn't spike blood sugar and is good for your gut.
Chinese are even worse they are thin despite wok frying every meal in pig lard
>>77432242One grain of rice at a time
>>77432740They do. I've lived in Italy and have a lot of Italian acquaintances and they all eat a ton of pasta
>>77432242It’s all about the types and quantities of the cabs fats and proteins. High processed foods are full of saturated fats and supernatural levels of fructose and devoid of fiber.For everyone one of you, if you want to lose weight, ditch processed foods and supplement fiber. You’ll literally not have to try to lose weight and it will happen.Cico is a meme and not surprising western men are full of colon cancer . What you eat is incredibly important.
>>77432864I live in Rome but I’m not Italian. I’ve been here for almost a decade. I eat tons of pasta and fish. I make a good seafood pasta.
>>77432242
>>77432893is this meant to be obesity? It's either really out of date or cherry picking countries.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate
>>77432878>western men are full of colon cancerIt's really funny you picked colon cancer out of all the problems caused by American diets. Japan has the highest rate of colorectal cancer in Asia. The USA, China and Japan have the highest rates in the world.
>>77432242a lot of the models on manga magazine are skinny fat actually
>>77432912women can't be skinny fat
>>77432242Activity is ingrained at a young age with school clubs and social shaming for being fat is higher.
>>77432901processed food as % of food purchases but it was rendered as svg or something i'll see if i can find data on obesity rates and processed food and find some correlation
>>77432269>I'll bet the average burger gets less than 2000 steps on a typical day, so they don't burn any calories hardlyNo bullshit, when I first started tracking steps I was shocked to see my average was like 800 a day, as low was 500 on most days. I wasn't walking anywhere at all. Typical day>Get out of bed, shit, brush teeth, shower etc, then walk to car>Drive to work>Walk like 30 seconds from car park to office, get to desk>Work>Have lunch at my desk, eat that in like 10 minutes and then spend the rest of my lunch break posting bullshit here>Maybe walk upstairs to shit>Work>Finish work, walk to car and drive home>Eat>Gaming rest of day if it's a day off gym>Otherwise, drive to gym (no cardio of course)>Post more bullshit here>BedThe day of the week with most steps was grocery day, all those steps from walking around the store. Tracking steps was a big eye opener for meI lost 25lbs without even changing my diet just by walking more, my average is 13k steps a day now
>>77432242CICOI know that makes people here fly in to a rage, but its CICO
>>77432252retard alert. Insulin resistance causes weight gain. If it's just CICO why does 0 calorie diet soda make you gain weight?
>>77433393Because the fake sugar gives you a brain tumor.
>smaller portions>walk a fuck ton>being fat is very publicly shamed
>>77433393>If it's just CICO why does 0 calorie diet soda make you gain weight?It doesn't, retard. At most you might be bloating from the sodium or just retaining water from drinking a lot.I drink like 6 liters of zero calorie soda a day and gain and lose weight according to CALORIES, which I track autistically. The soda has nothing to do with it.
>>77432252Carbs fucked me up for too long in my early years, going to the gym for a year and barely notice any significant change to the point I lost hope. Once I got back to gym and decide cut my carbs to the max, I saw a bigger change after three month than I did in a year. Insulin resistance is real af.you can't get real visible fat loss results without restricting your carb intakes.In the other hand, fats are safe.
>>77433393you have to shovel large amounts of sugar in your face for 20 years and be fat and never exercise before most people will get insulin resistant
>>77433438>you can't get real visible fat loss results without restricting your carb intakes.I eat mostly carbs when i cut I get "real visible fat loss" of a 1lbs or 2 per week
>>77433393>If it's just CICO why does 0 calorie diet soda make you gain weight?It doesn't
>>77432242they walk everywhere
>>77433453>every person I have met who drinks diet soda is fatHUUURRR DDDUUURRRR
>>77433558Every person I've ever met who was using crutches had an injured legCrutches cause leg injuriesI am very smart
>>77433257Great, bro.It's crazy how many calories you can burn just by walking. Ad you don't even notice it. You don't get tired.
>>77432242They walk a lot and practice portion control.
>>77433393>If it's just CICO why does 0 calorie diet soda make you gain weight?You need to sue the high school you graduated from because how one of their graduates could say something that retarded is a sign you should have been held back a grade or 2. Unless your from Baltimore or some diverse inner city school where they pass anyone with a pulse.
>>77432251Ain't that the truthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UZ7E0cn50w
>>77432242genetics. the bluehair fatties were half right.
>>77432242They walk a lot
>>77432242Smaller portions than the average western plate.
>>77433115https://www.dailymail.com/health/article-13139877/Britain-eats-ultra-processed-foods-rest-Europe.htmlHere's the source of the image I could find. It's ultra processed food, not processed. They even have a handy NOVA tl;dr next to it. As well as percentages to go with the bars.
>>77432242less sugar and no rape oil.
>how do people stay healthy eating natural things instead of my processed protein added cheetos
>>77434095yes thats where i got it from
>>77432242tapeworms from sushi and other raw fish
>>77432269you guys picked shit jobs I get around 6k just at work
>>77432242They ride alot of BWC
>>77434772can confirm i'm a manager in a liquor store and i average 15k steps everyday
>>77434790nice, I've been hitting the treadmill after work 1.25 mile warm up then again to cool down so I'm pretty sure I'm getting 12k daily
lots of mental gymnastics about walking and heckin portion control. as if occam's razor doesn't apply here. it's the food, silly. eat better food and you too can be thin like takeshi. chances are dietary guidelines in your country even tell you how to do it, but you'd rather listen to scam artist instead of nutri scientist. baka gaijin
>>77433428oh really? how much calories?
>>77433441how uncommon of an experience is that in a country that is 70% overweight and the average person is in midlife?
>>77432242Small portions, lots of walking, and open social shaming.
>>77432269This is what I hear, they are constantly active. The American thing is to basically be sedentary but then maybe go to the gym for a brief bout of intense exercise. Whereas Japanese are on their feet and active throughout the day.
>>77433393>drink 100g of water>step on scale >100g heavier OMG
Smaller portion sizes of food and they walk more than usual, That's about it.
>>77433257That's insane. I live in Tokyo and after reading this post I counted my steps on the way to and from the supermarket and got to around 1500 from that alone.
>>77432242They don't drink several beers and liquor with 1 or 2 desserts every day probably
>>77434967I wish I were the best at walking
>>77432269>>77432362>>77435010Japan, similar to Korea, is full of skinnyfat people with organ failure and stomach cancer from nightly consumption of fried chicken and binge drinking. They look skinny in suits because that's what suits do to the human form.Tokugawa Ieyasu's death is rather infamous as he apparently died after eating a heavy fish tempura fry-up. You might notice something about him in the pic rel
>>77435860I don't know about Korea, but in Japan this simply isn't true. They learn about nutrition at a really early age, have balanced school lunches all through junior high school, and although going to the gym isn't quite as common the majority of people have some kind of sport or hobby where they stay active. Daily life includes far more walking, portion sizes are limited, and even processed foods are made with way less cancerous slop. Do you think they have the highest life expectancy just by accident? I'm not one to glaze Japan, but they simply have America beat in this regard.>but muh IeyasuLiterally just one person with a health issue.
>>77433393It's the supersize McDonald's you're eating alongside the diet soda that makes you fat, you utter drooling retard
Life in Japan is expensive, the meals are small, they walk eveywhere, drink themselves to death and have fat shaming.
>>77436127Oh I guess it just isn't true if you simply say it isn't then
>>77436507Oh I guess it just is true if you simply say it is then
>>77436564Right because I'm quoting a PhD head of department at Fukuoka University Institute for Physical Activity
>>77432242healthy carbs and healthy fats
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>>77436564>>77436817I'm sorry it bothers you that your fantasy isn't real
>>77436817He's right though. South Korea and some areas of Vietnam have started to develop their physical culture which will benefit the people who practice it there but traditionally modern asian country physiques are skinny fat and meek. Getting in shape there largely is starving yourself and going for long walks so you fit smaller clothes or slow bike riding or some sort of liss cardio. Their diets have good and bad points but they are, at their core, skinny fat diets with proper portions.
>>77436958>mass measurements are fantasydon't (you) me again, retard>>77437004skinny fat diet is just a buzzword. it doesn't actually mean anything, nor do your speculations on modern asian physiques. and even if it did, you'd still be wrong, since these countries have among the least skinny fats in the developed world. that's literally what it means if your population has average bmi of 22.5 instead of 25+. it shifts the entire distribution lower. god i fucking hate this board
>>77437283>mass measurements are fantasyDon't recall saying they were >skinny fat diet is just a buzzword. it doesn't actually mean anythingIt means the average physique is a dumpy, fragile and unathletic one with womanly spindly arms and an almost distended-looking stomach with organ problems. It's "thin," because that's how it appears outwardly when they wear a suit, but without vigor and still with proportionally high fat. It's the problem that the aforementioned Dr. Tanaka was prescribing exercise as a solution.
>>77437403How the fuck would these people have the same bf%? Like 1 in 100000 fat fucks would be built enough to have the same bf% as a 155 lb person at 250. And that utter retarded cope tells me that the person who made the cope graphic and the people who circulate it are definitely not the 1 in 100000.
>>77437403Americans were skinny fat back in the 50s, 60s and 70s too. no body worked out but BMI was low
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>>77436127Japan uses some of the most chemicals and preservatives of any country. Including several that even the americans ban. Combined with the ubiquitousness of seed oils in japanese cooking and comically high salt consumption. The fetishistic narrative about japanese food being uber clean falls flat on its face. Meanwhile the statistical fact that japanese on average consume 15~25% less calories daily on average gets swept under the rug
At some point people are no longer skinnyfat, just skinny. Only fat fucks itt with no concept of what a bmi in the low 20s even looks like, it seems
from not combining foods and eating in order protein first then rice then veges
>>77437625That's literally common sense to not eat a pound of cake and then protein and think you are at max protein.
>>77432242Sumo was almost like mr Olympia though except I am not a fan of soups as much ad they seem to be
>>77432269Amerifat here. Can you elaborate on the baby portions? For context a usual amount of rice for me would be 4-5 cups cooked
>>77437696Per day? I can't even imagine how much rice I'd eat just to lose weight with no alcohol candy etc
>>77437625projecting much? unless east asia also was mindbroken by the protein psyop, i don't see why people there would obsess about their intake. recommendation targets are trivially easy to hit. not getting enough is not a thing on even a semi-decent diet, unless you live in thirdystan. if anything, most people should probably worry more about restricting certain EAA like methionine.
>>77437696That's a shitton of rice you fat nigger
>>77437699In a meal, but I do OMAD so yes, per day>>77437720I know. What’s the proper amount of rice?
whats with the "traditonal" japanese breakfastseems like a fuckton of food and weird shit toogrilled fish? miso soup? veggie sidesat 8am? the fuck bro, who can slam down that when you wake up
>>77437708i never said anything about protein targets. i was talking about the order of eating the foods. meat has the most yang, rice next less yang than the meat then vegetables which are yin. ancient chinese/ oriental ball knowledge
>>77437734That is still in a day lmao but it is basically like eating more throughout the day almost because you use less. I never liked fasting it makes progress take longer.
>>77435860>tokugawa ieyasu died from bad diet>monarch who didn't do any physical labor and sat around feasting all day died from eating lots of fried food and drinking heavily>somehow this disproves the average dietImagine being this retarded
>>77437708You still need carbs for protein to even do anything or else you just kind of barely hold on to muscle while trying to gain fat and a starvation diet is needed to lose fat
>>77437762He was probably eating shrimp tempura and fried fish and chicken for literally every meal
>>77437743Something like steak and shrimp is pretty good
>>77437762>inadequate nutrition>virtually no physical activity/labor>fast most of the day, feast on fried food and booze Quintessentially Japanese
>>77437696Curl your hand into a fist. That’s how much rice you should be having
>>77437755uh, sorry? i thought you were talking in terms of priorities. i don't really get how order of eating foods or if you combine them is super relevant for weight management, but good for you if you do>>77437764good, i love carbs. are you sure this was meant for me???
>>77432242In the military I dated my division officer, like 95lb 5'3" flip right out of the academy. we had to go across town to go out and sneak around at work. She took me out for sushi (and paid for everything because she made 5x my salary) one time and I witnessed this first hand as I watched her eat no fewer than 8 rolls of sushi while I struggled with 3. Fucking insane
>>7743224because rice is low in calories
>>77436578Your source is a guy saying Japanese people have a beer after a long work day? Nigger, I actually live here, stop talking out of your ass.
>>77439269Pvt. Gomez, then you know the Japanese are skinnyfat and unhealthy.
>>77437807Bro thats fucking nothing and I have big hands :-(
>>77439278>the country with the longest average life expectancy is unhealthyyeah ok
>>77439304Life expectancy =/ health or good physiques
>>77439304The longest lived Japanese eat the most fat and animal protein, and the least carbs.>High intakes of milk and fats and oils had favorable effects on 10-year (1976–1986) survivorship>survivors revealed a longitudinal increase in intakes of animal foods such as eggs, milk, fish and meat>Okinawa Prefecture where life expectancies at birth and 65 were the longest in Japan ... the proportion of energy from proteins and fats were significantly higher ... Intakes of carbohydrates and NaCl were lower.https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/026010609200800312
>>77432242Look at that food. If you are like that every day, youd lose weight too. When I go to Thailand, I'll lose like 20 pounds as I eat a Thai diet. Its just freash and non processed. And you walk a lot too I guess. And bang bargirls.
>>77438902Sex with Duna and Yuna
>>77439312>people who eat well tend to live a good life
>>77439311>Life expectancy =/ healthno but it's a pretty fucking good indicator>>77439312your point??
>>77432252explain diabetes rates in asia thencarbs are evil
>>77439342Same with the west increased automation less general activity if someone who solders components for a living eats the carbload of a laborer from 70 years ago they'll probably get diabetes if they're predisposed at all.
>>77439336>no but it's a pretty fucking good indicatorEasy, easy, private. Don't get upset. You were just wrong, that's all.
>>77439346I'm not in the military and it's very sad that you have to cope like this just because Japan healthmogs your fat American ass.
>>77439342Explain Japan.
>>77439351Pvt. Gomez, this thread wasn't about comparing Japan to America, obviously in comparison the Japanese are 'thin,' the point I contended with OP was that the Japanese are largely 'thin' themselves with the positive connotation, which they aren't. You jumped in excitedly to our discussion to tell me I'm wrong and so are Japanese university professors and athletic trainers, because you live in Japan. If you've lived in Japan, then surely you've seen it for yourself and your anecdote would only support what we were saying, but then you start waffling about some abstract factoid about life expectancy. To reiterate the point against the OP, the Japanese are dumpy, skinnyfat, and nonathletic. They aren't the forest spirits in your imagination that eat wildflowers and fish and have anime physiques.
>>77439355>china and usa: high fat, stupid portions>japan: low fat high carbs, normal portionsit's really that simple.
>>77432242You can eat all the fat and carbs you want if your calories are at or under you TDEE.
fat in - fat outeat low fat stay leanyoutube durianriderhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/2pt3M3t7gys
Those bowls are way smaller than you think that's like 4 bites of rice
>>77439355>north korea has more diabetes than southwtf bros I thought they wuz starvin n shieet?
>>77432242Bunch of cardio bunnies
>>77433393>If it's CICO then why (shit I made up)
>>77432252I bet you believe the Food Pyramid too, fucking idiot kys
>>77432242I remember traveling there. I saw maybe 3 fat people. Im a 5ft 3in 240lb retired body builder. They only eat about 400 calories per meal. I felt weird asking for a 3rd meal while i was there.
>>77432252While that is true, macronutrient manipulation has a lot to do with metabolic rate and thus calories out even if caloric intake is held constant and also with hunger which obviously effects caloric intake. So this idea that’s implied by this statement which suggests all calories are equal in practice is literally objectively scientifically false.
