I genuinely do not understand how anyone regularly sleeps on regular beds. I sleep on a bed occasionally and wake up with muscle pains, asleep limbs, and whole system feels out of balance. Not to mention how giant and hard to move and clean and spacetaking the average bed is. I sleep on solid hardwood floor. Seriously, fuck beds.
>>77433846but anon, bed id da picture fills entire room
>>77433870When your whole floor is bed, then your whole bed is floor
When I sleep on the floor I wake up in pain. Sleeping in my comfy womfy bed I wake up feeling amazing.
>>77433846>i cant understand how anyone doesnt want bugs and mice crawling over them
>>77433896>bugs and mice cannot crawl on a bed
>>77433896strawmanning dirty-house having nigger. Anyway I actually personnally sleep on a foldup plastic table with a big piece of plywood laid on top, so this argument doesn't even work
>>77433893You and aparently 99% of humanity. for me its the exact opposite. Though, it did take a good couple years to become adjusted to floorsleeping, but i see this as deprogramming myself from the culture of excessive comfort agenda of the west
>>77433914You are mentally ill
>>77433920Why would you say that?
>>77433926Nta, but you sound a diet vegan>muh don't understand>muh deprogrammingAnd let's not forget the>it took me a good couple of yearsHow the fuck do you not understand since you used to sleep on a bed? Something that has existed for about 5000 years. Peak mental retardation
>>77433935>Muh it has existed for 5 brazilian yearsGo flavor your juice with lead and eat some mercury to cure your syphilis then. Of course i understand why people do it, just like how i "understand" why a mentally disabled person may eat their own shit. Its a metaphor, for me thinking its retarded. People have been sleeping on floors for all of millions of years of humanity existence before beds were invented 5000 years ago, which is why i mentioned deprogramming, because I've only ever slept in a bed my whole life before becoming a floor sleeping chad, so learning how to sleep without one felt like reclaiming my ancestral abilities to survive without the imposed modern comforts.
>>77433949just buy a hard mattress instead of sleeping on the floor like a dog lmao
>>77433958Shan't
>>77433958Nice try mattress jew
>>77433949Do you really think humans went from sleeping in tree branches to lying on the cold hard floor for hundreds of thousands of years? We've been using bedding for about as long as we've used fire
>>77433980ah yes the stone age elevated wooden frame, 2 foot tall boxspring, and 3 foot tall matress. a couple of deer skins laid on the stone floor of the cave is a far fucking cry.
>>77433846Generally it's only good if you sleep on your back. Unless you have more cushioning, floor-sleeping on your side will KILL your shoulder.t. have slept on the floor/a wooden board for several years
>>77433980It's fairly common in japan to sleep on a flat mat on the floor. Not saying you should do that but the few times I've had back/neck issues from sleeping the wrong way on my mattress sleeping on a flat mat on the floor did wonders for my back.
More important issue - how the fuck you lie down so you won't snore? When I relax, I can feel tongue obstructing airflow, so I end up doing acrobatics to fix that, pillows seem to make it worse.
and yet the jannies insta purged my thread and banned me
>>77434070Sleeping is a part of fitness, retard.
He doesn't know that hard metresses exist...
>>77434073lifting for pussy isn't?
>>77433949That's not what a metaphor is. I think you may be retarded, Anon.
>>77433983you're dumber than a mouse
>>77433926Nta> Deprogramming myself from the culture of excessive comfort agenda of the westAnon, it's important to realize when something is a part of the Zeitgeist. But it's also important to realize that doesn't mean everything the west has done has been a net negative for humans on an individual level either. Choosing to sleep on the floor when you can find a bed that fits your criteria of "comfy but healthy" comes off as embracing counter culture too aggressively. Which is why anon says you are mentally ill. Like with most things, there is balance, and you still willingly chose the extreme
I've been wanting to upgrade the mattress the gf and I sleep on for years. How do I go about finding a good one?Btw price is included as a variable in a good one. But also, if the answer is "all the good ones are pricey, I'll accept it"
>>77433846>whole system feels out of balanceYootoober promoting retarded fads talk.
>>77433949Did not read lmao. Keep seething, brainlet
>>77433846I'd do it but I can't not sleep on my side
I sometimes sleep on my bedroom rug as a treat but only once every couple of weeks
>>77433846>open the thread>several hours later check youtube>pic related in recommended wtf get out of my head
>>77434575You are precisely the kind of brainwashed nigger that I will go to war on this front against. Look at the very first results for a image search of "koreans sleeping" that took me 2 seconds to find. Beds are actually the counterculture. To me, you are the mentally ill choosing the extreme of luxury. To me, you are the one out of balance. Of course, in the picrel they are sleeping with a small mat or tatami, which i do most of the time too especially in winter. but that is a far more balanced and healthy sleep system, closer to the floor too, than the 5ft tallx8ft longx6ft wide 500 pound behemoth, token of sloth, perfect symbolism of the hedonism of the modern day, the modern bed. And who the fuck are you to strawman me implying all this shit about western civilization? If I'm in the hospital for example, you best believe I'll be in a comfy bed. Give me the western life every time. Yet because I think because its fucked up to raise a child dependent on beds, that we need a little more balance in our sleeping culture, that everything the west has done has been a net negative on humans? That is nigger tier logic.
>>77435163>koreabooOpinion discarded
>>77435172Yeah they all drink themselves to death on weird asian liquors and 99% are circumsized, and they all live in a country the size of a small U.S. state. Like I said, give me the Western life every time. They do sleeping better though.
>>77434681>it has existed for 5 bajillion years therefore it is le good
Floor sleeping has (in separate occasions) given me the best sleep I've had in years, but also excruciating cervical pain that lasted for over a week.
>>77434449Me saying its a metaphor is a metaphor too.>>77434514kek
>>77435121>not getting tracker blocker extensionBruh
>>77434587What the fuck do you think I'm trying to sell you? A floor?
Sleeping on a soft bed is like taking the car instead of walking. Comfortable on the moment, but weakens your body over time if you do it every day.That being said I don't recommend sleeping on the floor for hygienic reasons. A firm mattress or those japanese futons are fine. Keep them cleaned and aired.
>>77433846>your western practices are strange to me, baka gaijin >I stoically laugh at you from my spiritual homeland of Nihon (Japan)I thought you tedious fedora tippers died out in the 2010s
>>77433949So stop using the Internet then you fucking hypocriteWhy do you "retvrn to natvre" faggots choose precisely one (1) aspect of your bourgeois 21st century to go without, and then never shut the fuck up about it>muh cold showers, this must be what my viking ancestors experienced >le raw meat, I'm a roman legionnaire>I sleep on a tatami, I don't mean to brag but I'm basically a samurai SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>77434580Keep mattress Upgrade gf
>>77436174>>77435172I only turn to the nips and koreans to show it has precedent somewhere. I could only wish there was a western culture of floorsleeping. No instead we have shit like picrel, thomas jefferson's monticello house with the bed inside the wall like a burial crypt. granted it's based in its own autistic way but OP pic is so much more comfy>>77436187>muh cold showers, this must be what my viking ancestors experienced >le raw meat, I'm a roman legionnaire>I sleep on a tatami, I don't mean to brag but I'm basically a samurai this but unironically. you couldn't handle hearing much less experiecing for yourself how many things i go without. comfort makes you soft
I have an extra firm mattress on the floor. It feels like sleeping on a folded woollen blanket but still has enough dynamic support for when I'm fucking your mom.
>>77436207Is that before or after the 500 different men you clearly service for needing whatever the fuck sweet nonsense "dynamic support" is?
>>77436142Yeah let me just walk 74 hours to my moms house instead of driving 5 hours >>77436213>I dont know what things are and im a retard so lets just call it gayMouthbreathing mongoloid
>>77436193Comfort is a reward for hardship. After working outside for a few hours it is good to come inside to air conditioning. That is why humans have engineered comfort. Choosing to not be comfortable is an active choice and a convenience of our modern society.
>>77436281This nigga needs to be dynamically supported
>>77436288Above certain temperatures even healthy people will die without cool air or water. A healthy person will never die from sleeping on a harder surface.
>>77435163>giving your kid a bed is child abuseand here i thought fit wasn't funny anymore
>>77433949>sleeps under a roof with AC, 4 walls, and carpet or hardwood your ancestors are not impressed breh
>>77436281Why do you go to your mom's house that's 5 hours away every day?
very good thread all around do kontinue pleaseveriification not required well and there it goes
>>77435163> deprogramming myself from the culture of excessive comfort agenda of the westI'm not strawmanning you when I directly quote you. If you're making a specific point about a specific thing, then be specific. Otherwise your statements are doing exactly what you claim they aren't (implying all this shit about western civilization).And for some context, I slept on tatami + 3 inch futon for about 2 years. Nothing was worse for my back, and sleeping on a regular bed has helped me recover. There are plenty of things you can criticize with respect to overindulging in western culture. You just chose one of the most retarded things to criticize because having a nice comfy bed can be a huge improvement.
>>77437243>um actually you NEED to be le specific otherwise i will (purposely) not understand you>uhm ACSHUALLY when you say that there is an obvious agenda and culture of excessive comfort in the west (supported further by the fact that 40% of american adults and 20% of american children are obese, entire neighborhoods and cities are planned primarily for car use, our health minister is a fat alcoholic) that actually means that you think the entirely of western civilization is a le net negative !!! (even though all of this is simply the result of the MIRACLE of the production of resources that western civilization has given us combined with people's weak willpower to regulate themselves which is not necessarily anyone's fault at all and can be overcome)>um, actually, here's a left-field anecdote that completely recontextualizes my seething as coming from a weakwilled underling who needs a whole team of soientists multiple years of study and RND to develop the perfect softness mattress for me to even have the chance of falling asleep
>>77433935>How the fuck do you not understand since you used to sleep on a bed? Something that has existed for about 5000 years.Beds as we know them today, with a thick mattress, haven't existed for very long.
>>77437340Seek help (sleeping on a bed counts)
>>77437379conseshin accepted
>>77433846I've also found that my lower back problems disappeared when I started sleeping on the floor. I can also breathe better. The only downsides are that I have to fold up and set out my blankets every day, and the floor is colder in the winter than a raised bedframe.
>>77433896Beds do not make you immune to bugs or rodents, retard. A clean house is the solution to pests.>>77433926He's one of those faggots who trolls /fit/ to call anyone who isn't a turbo normie "mentally ill." Ignore him.
>>77433958Not OP, but I tried a firm futon on this exact advice, and it was a complete waste of money. The floor is objectively better. You should either get a comfy mattress or go full hunter-gatherer and sleep on the floor. The middle ground is utterly pointless.
>>77436142>That being said I don't recommend sleeping on the floor for hygienic reasons.There's nothing unhygienic about sleeping on the floor unless you never clean your house. Just lay a sheet or two on the floor and sleep on that, wash weekly the same way you would with any bedsheet.
>>77436187Imagine being this buttmad about a complete stranger sleeping on the floor. Maybe your chronic back pain from your shitty mattress is making you miserable.
>>77433846You're a fucking retard and I don't believe you. It's infinitely more likely your just a lying faggot shitposting.
>>77433846Dogs sleep on the floor.
>>77437638>Goy just give us a measly $5,000 the average yearly salary for a Cambodian for a slab that takes up half the room, is impossible to properly clean past the surface, and weighs 6 million tonsIs it some kind of humiliation ritual? I genuinely don’t understand it.
>>77437637I may be retarded but I'm honest, lying will kill you like poison
100% chance op has never done a day of labour in his life
>>77438162I'm being very honest in the OP, i seriously don't understand how people can regularly sleep in beds. There is literally nothing better after a long day of intense physical exercise or labor than taking a shower and then laying flat on the solid wood floor wrapped in my feather and wool blankies. Maybe I'm autistic or something, its just a sensory nightmare. i swam like 5 kilometers one day last month and laying down flat on the floor was heaven. dont get me wrong it took a while for my body to adjust but i will never regualarly use a bed again, maybe when im 80 years old
>>77433949>the floor in question Even 50iq apes understand how to make a bed
>>77437613Not so much a concession as just an acceptance of the fact that you're objective is shitposting.
>>77437638what if I just want a 100x100 mattress at that point?
>>77434240anon, all lifters are gay
>>77438188Lying on a hard surface, on your back, allows you to completely relax all muscles. Beds don't do that.I agree with you it's heavenly. I can lie on a solid floor and experience immediate deep relaxation. I would suggest all naysayers try it and understand the profound comfort of it and at least acknowledge that it might be beneficial to sleep on the floor.
>>77438712It did become that once it was clear you don't actually give a fuck about learning the basedness of floorsleeping see >>77438946 and >>77437628and >>77436006 and just decided to latch on to my throwaway line acknowledging the culture of excessive comfort in america (which you yourself acknowledge: >There are plenty of things you can criticize with respect to overindulging in western culture) as some sort of woke gotcha that because i think its braindead retarded to raise children reliant on something they might not always have and don't always need, that i think coolsville sucks. Now do you have something constructive to add to the conversation or just another retarded one liner
I fall asleep easier on my sofa but wake up feeling like shit.
>>77439327You bring up a good point in that I a accept that I won't be a floor sleeper. But this largely stems from 2 facts. I've already tried futon sleeping at some point in my life and it didn't seem to help me much, and I know my girlfriend will never accept sleeping on the floor. I'm open to the idea though that our current way of sleeping is flawed, which is why I'm still here. And I'm waiting to hear constructive arguments as to why floor sleeping could be useful because even if it's something that I won't try, it's something I could recommend to people in the future if I like the arguments you have to make. The problem is that if you're going to try and convince people in general to do a thing you don't do it by calling them braindead and retarded. You do it by providing arguments as to why your options may be better and then recommend people try it for a time and to ultimately make the decisions for themselves. Kinda like how >>77436006 or >>77437624 did. The thing is, is the perspective of "it's difficult at first and it may permanently be less comfort but comfort isn't worth damaging yourself in the long run" is a valid point simply because people will actually take what you say into consideration. Whereas, "You're retarded unless you do this" is something people will just always ignore. Which is why I stopped seriously engaging you, because I think that other people articulated your own perspective better than you ever could.
Bumping to spite the mattress jew
