Now that these 24hr bands are finally affordable (subsidized by your health data) do they actually provide any valuable insight to most people?They're HR sensors, but most people who use HR sensors when working out just use the $20 chest straps that are more accurate.They're sleep trackers but what value does knowing>your sleep was 67 pointsprovide someone? Can't you just feel how you slept?
youre a grown man, if you want to buy one, do sodo you really need the input of an obese brown virgin to guide your life?
>>77436121I only respect the input of obese virgins, now speak
ignorance is bliss
>>77436054>Can't you just feel how you slept?you absolutely can'tI thought I was sleeping "fine" after drinking if I got plenty of hydration and didn't have to get up early and, and if I felt worse later in the day I just chalked it to a hangoveronly getting a smartwatch helped me realize how much drinking even a small amount of alcohol fucks with your sleep, I quit nearly completely since
>>77436054I would say no for most people. For people who are prone to losing weight unexpectedly or run near the limits of their recovery they're extremely valuable
>>77436201>people who are prone to losing weight unexpectedlywhat does that mean because that describes me pretty accuratelyNot completely on the "unexpectedly" part but sometimes my appetite is just shot and I just don't eat so I lose a lot of mass
>>77436054most people have them for motivation>only 2000 more steps today or you will lose your STREAK>Can't you just feel how you slept?yeahbut it's a lot easier and less time consuming to just look at 5 key numbers every morningand even a top of the line Garmin/Polar or similar Fitness watch are only like ~500€ over 4-5years lifetimemost people rather spend the 10€/month instead of spending 5min every morning documenting their sleep>but most people who use HR sensors when working out just use the $20 chest straps that are more accurate.chest straps are a niche outside of actual athleteswrist watches are accurately *enough*and usually they're off consistently, which doesn't matter for any casual training
Any recs on cheapo HR monitors compatible with the C2 rowerg bros? I feel like I'm overdoing it in pace and thus HR(feel like passing out sometimes after a session) but have no way to actually tell
>>77436181All studies show that alcohol helps you to fall asleep, but eliminates important phases of sleep.You still needed a tracker to find that out?
>>77436054>They're sleep trackers but what value does knowingSleep trackers are a scam. It is impossible to monitor sleep accurately without recording brainwaves. Only one device I know of, the Muse S Athena, does this; but it has bad reviews and its marketing strategy makes me suspicious. Most of these devices that "track sleep" are just using fancy algorithms and proxies like heart rate and movement recorded via an accelerometer to determine whether you are sleeping. I've tested this with my Garmin. If I enter my bed time and wake up time in the app, then it tells my I was sleeping from about ~23:00, when in fact I had spent more than half an hour lying in bed awake; same thing in the morning. >>77436345He needed daddy to tell him as much, yes.
>>77436297if only they had a PM5 to show your pace :(
i always wanted something like this but seem useless for actual lifting weights (besides track heart rate and maybe sleep)
>>77436297any chest strap (cheapest on your favorite marketplace), the coospo hw5 is a great hr band and still cheap, not too sure about other cheap bands if you don't want chink then get whatever from polar
>>77436356i just use them to keep track of when/how much i sleep, so i can monitor my sleep patterns (it's complicated), but i still have to manually export/import the data to turn it into something useful for me. although i may have found something that can make sleep diaries at last, so i might just ditch trackers completely since the only useful feature on them aside from logging sleep is the watch/timer. thanks for reading my blog
>>77438069>>77436054
>>77438069>i just use them to keep track of when/how much I am in bedFIFYAs I said in my previous post, sleep trackers seem to be incapable of, or unreliable at, distinguishing between lying in bed awake and actual sleep. The only thing they might be good at doing, as others in this thread have pointed out, is detecting abnormal physiological states with elevated heart rate that might be caused by sleep apnea. But you'd then still want to get a polysomnography done in a lab.
>>77438103i didn't mean to respond to 77436356, sorry if that was you. you're right that sleep trackers do overestimate your sleep a bit, some more than others. i even had one once that i felt was quite accurate, at least for me, but the company went boom. what you'd really want for accuracy is an actigraph, but unless you're a researcher or a medical professional, they're not so easy to obtain. anyways, just don't go to bed when you can't sleep and adjust time when you lay still in bed for too long, if it bothers you. it's not like i would do a better job logging my sleep manually, so slightly scuffed semi-automatic isn't such a terrible compromise. being off by like 10 minutes isn't a big deal to me, especially since the error is more or less systematic. but to each their own
>>77436054 Apple Watch here:I like being able to navigate my music apps without having to pull my phone out. Same with being able to call someone or send a text while keeping my phone in my bag. It's nice to be at the gym without my phone. The health and HR stuff was neat but not something all that important to me. It's nice to get an idea of what your sleeping behavior is like, but after awhile it become redundant.
