are collagen supplements worth it or should i just eat chicken with the skin on instead?
>>77449206you'd be better off with glycine and vitamin c. add biosil liquid if you really want to boost collagen production.
>>77449206>>77449219joke's on you guys, I eat ALL that stuff, kek.
boil some ox tail bones with meat on it (get it at the asian grocery stores) for a few hours for collagen soup base. use base for as soup base for soups.
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>>77449206What exactly are you trying to accomplish by taking this supplement? Sincere question.
>>77449488joints hurt less
>>77449495Yeah, it's not going to help with that.
>>77449206Im an unc millenial. I use cow colostrum which is a good source of collagen and IGF1. My skin is firmer and I have less wrinkles. If youre gaining size fast (roiding or bulking) and you get stretch marks near your arm pits, it will prevent it from happening. Other than that, it's also a borderline sleep supp too.
>>77449648No, that got /sci/'d comprehensively recently, and you're generally wrong.>https://www.sciencealert.com/collagen-supplements-may-offer-real-benefits-large-review-suggests>Collagen supplementation was linked to moderate improvements in muscle health and reduced pain in people with osteoarthritis.
>>77449722>may>suggests>linked to>multifactorial studyThanks for saving me the read
>>77449206It's turbo garbage as a food source
>>77449730You forgot>people with osteoarthritis
>>77449730>>77449748Nice try, but the mechanistic evidence dropped decades ago and treating diseases you don't have works to get rid of analogous subclinical symptoms.>Effects of orally administered undenatured type II collagen against arthritic inflammatory diseases: a mechanistic exploration.>https://europepmc.org/article/med/12837047
>>77449853ok bovine collagen is made from type 1
>>77449495Pretty sure there are better anti inflammatory things for joints.
>>77449495I've had better results for joint health with glucosamine personally, but my protein powder's a beef protein so that may mean my collagen intake's already covered? can't speak highly enough of glucosamine though
>>77449219>you'd be better off with glycineYou mean the primary amino acid found in collagen?>>77449206Absolutely worth it. There are a ton of studies showing that it's extremely beneficial to consume high amounts of glycine and low amounts of methionine and tryptophan and the most efficient way to achieve that is by supplementing your diet with collagen.Collagen supplements are how you compensate for unnatural modern diets that neglect organ meats. The only other way you're realistically getting a proper amino acid balance is if you're eating gelatin rich soups every day.
>>77449206The amount of chicken skin it would require to get even one dosage of the average collagen peptide would bankrupt you in a matter of weeks.The only reason we use to be able to reasonably hit glycine, proline, and hydroxyproline amounts is because people use to regularly ingest stews, which via broth and bone provided a much easier micro and amino acid ratio for survivability AND quality of life purposes.All studies have shown positive correlation with QoL and collagen supplementation in modern diets (smallest study 76%, most studies >90%, largest study 99% correlation).>>77449861Nope, glycine deficiency is incredibly common now days, body barely makes enough to even sustain life and amino acid ratio is basically non existent in western diets now.36% diet newfag, lurk moar before posting.Majority of your glycine is being used to just maintain brain function and skin health, what little you have left is required for organ function.What's more, lack of exercise in young adults is creating less tendon mass, the only viable store of glycine in the human body during times of deficiency.Glycine is required to quiet the immune system by suppressing multiple specific inflammatory markers. Without it the joints regularly experience damage from your bodies own inflammatory cycle. Your immune system is as damaging to the body at times as it is at saving the body in the most regular of times.Google rheumatoid factor, all humans have trace RF in their blood, it's a natural part of the human condition.Your inability to deactivate RF is what causes what we know as arthritis.So yes without collagen in your diet in appropriate amounts your joints will be damaged in more ways than any other factor can prevent inflammation.
>>77450045>The amount of chicken skin it would require to get even one dosage of the average collagen peptide would bankrupt you in a matter of weekswhat are you talking about? a chicken thigh with skin is around 2g of collagen, so 5 thighs would give the usual 10g people use for supplementation, 5 thighs is around 2$
>>77449702I got stretch marks all over my pit/underarm area as a teenager even though I barely had any mass there. My skin seems insanely cursed overall.
>>77450224collagen does not absorb easily which is why the supplements are 'hydrolyzed' or whatever. just eat glycine.
>>77449495>>77449861Don't ego lift LOL JK
>>77449748No, I didn't. I literally said multi-factorial study.
>>77449853Oh look, you're citing a multivariable study done with the incorrect type of collagen, that's also been denatured.Sorry you can't admit you're wrong and you're just posting things you Google.
>>77450236chicken thighs do have glycine
>>77451113I only eat chicken wings.
