>>77449847
The real GLP-3 is injecting sema, triz and reta at the same time.

TIRZ IS KING

>>77449847
TYB

>>77449847
Also it's worth mentioning that GLP1Forum is an advertising platform and they take money from any old vendor. Use that site at your own risk.

>>77449847
>What are you taking.
Mounjaro
>How much are you injecting
10mg. Might go up. Dunno.
>What weight did you start at and how much have you lost?
I was 120kg (265lb) in late August of last year. I am now 90kg (195lb) now.
>Questions & queries?
Not really. I'm doing this all via private prescription in the UK, so it's not exactly been cheap, but man this was all so worthwhile, and I still have like 15kg to go before I'm at like peak BMI.
I guess I dunno if I just continue on 10, or go up to 12-15. Kinda feels like I should just stick with things that are working.

>>77449947
Nice one. I was similar to you, I was 130kg late August last year, I'm now 88kg. I started on Wegovy but moved to Reta and then a Reta+Tirz stack. I have 8kg to go and I'm set.

Currently on 3.75 mg tirz a week. Will prob switch to reta the last couple weeks of diet phase because I'm on my last vial of tirz.

Honestly next cut I'm going to be looking at eloralintide. Anyone here use it? How's it compare to traditional GLP-1s subjective appetite suppression?

>>77450039
I haven't, but I've heard that it's extremely hard to get some nowadays.

>>77449883
King shit

As I'm Reta and Tirz stacking, I'm about to reduce my Reta from 5mg to 2.5mg so I can increase my Tirz from 2.5mg to 5mg. I'm only a few KG from my goal now so I'm going away from Reta's fat burn and returning to the appetite suppressor that is Tirz.

Sema is so fucking powerful for me. It's way more effective at making me not want to eat than tirz or reta (especially reta, it does almost nothing for my appetite)
I guess my GLP-1 sensitivity is much higher than GIP/glucagon

>>77450064
There's a couple sources offering it. Not allowed to link but it should start to appear on more vendors relatively soon.

>>77450209
That was my problem too, even when I went higher. When I added 2.5 Tirz, the food noise and suppression kicked in decently.
Reta was excellent for burning off the fat and weight with no side effects but I've hit the plateau for Reta now.

>>77450217
Tirz is great, don't get me wrong, but it's more of a "oh shit, it's 1pm and I haven't eaten anything today, I should probably go grab something" type of drug and I still get occasional urges to binge on it.
With sema it's kind of like that but not as pronounced, but when I do eat I very easily hit a threshold of "oh fuck if i take another bite I'm gonna explode"
Super easy to maintain a caloric deficit on sema for me.

>>77450229
Have you heard of the CagriSema blend?
It's apparently a hyper OP combination of Sema and Cagrilintide and it's effective due to Cagri being an amimo acid instead of a GLP-1.

>>77449847
>What are you taking?
I got prescribed Mounjaro Kwikpen
>How much are you injecting?
2,5 mg to start with, coming from 0,25 mg on Ozempic
>What weight did you start at and how much have you lost?
163 kg and after 3 weeks I'm currently at 159-160
>Questions & queries?
Doctor gave me 2,5mg for 8 weeks and then said we'll increase the dose afterwards. Is that normal? Relatives said it's usually taken for 4 weeks.
Also moving me from Ozempic (which I got outside my country) to Mounjaro instead of Wegovy was a surprise move, is it that much more effective?

>>77450280
It's usually 4 weeks per dose increase, it's possible the doc is having you at 8 weeks per dose for now because you skipped Wegovy. Unsure as to why.

>>77449847
My brother got on Tirzepatide and he managed to cut down from 6’1” 280 all the way down to ~175
iirc he was on 10mg/week and now he’s on 5mg/week
He’s recomping, gaining muscle to deal with loose skin. He’s at 295 3x5 on squat, etc. and weighing around 185 now

Any advice on how I should interact with him? He’s on my parents insurance/dime for now so he doesn’t have to pay $250/month for the medication but he’ll be on his own in 2 years.
Should he try to switch to an oral GLP-1 and then go cold turkey in 2 years? Or will prices probably continue to come down?
Sorry for the ramble, my brain got buttfucked by some programming at work today. I don’t know how much he has controlled his appetite, I would love to see him become a recomped version of his current self (add another 15 lbs of muscle, lose 10 lbs of fat) but idk if that’s an unrealistic goal for an ex-fat

>>77450291
Depends how receptive he is to it, I guess.
Not being a fat shit is pretty good for fixing the rest of your shit life, so hopefully he does that. But, it's easier to maintain than lose, so that probably means he'd be okay on a cheap lose dose.

In all the stuff I've looked at around GLP-1 stuff, everyone always talks about needing to increase dose because they've plateaued, or it's not going down as fast as it once was. I've not really heard of anyone actually putting on weight, especially not significant enough to regain big amounts. So I sort of just assume a low dose is probably enough to maintain it long term, and as long as he monitors his weight, he'll know if he's gaining weight again and can adjust accordingly.

DNP is queen
It is practically the ONLY weight loss medication that doesn't make you lose muscle, and has no side effects after the drug clears out of you

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>>77450284
He also recommended that I avoid lifting and focus only on cardio (cycling) at least in the beginning citing my hypertension and overall bad health.
>tfw extremely low testosterone levels (5.5 nmol/L) and I'm only 30

>>77450398
Illegal tho

>>77450525
So this is the best downside you could come up with? "It's illegal"? Kek

I want to try this whole glp-1 thing out, mainly to shed around 15kg total. Should I start with fully legal stuff first like acquiring a prescription for monjaro?

>>77450546
If you have the money to pay for a prescription per month, go for it. Depending on where you are, some anons have ways to pay for it from the pharmacy really cheap (some benefits scheme or something).
We mainly use the gray market for cost and availability of other peptides not sold to the public.

>doctor says I need to do blood test before giving me mounjaro script
>ok cool
>no labs open over weekend
>go out for a dinner and a drink on sunday
>cant have blood test after drinking
>finally try and get around to it today
>doctor didn't inform he that I have to fast for 12hrs so can't do it today either

how much longer must I suffer in this fat shell

>>77449847
I'm on my starting month and i've noticed the day I inject I struggle to get to sleep. Its fine the rest of the week. I inject at about 8pm after food. Should I do it earlier?

>>77450258
Cagri and sema are not amino acids. They are chains of amino acids called peptides.

>>77450599
Given two of three of the reasons for the delay were your own fault entirely, it may be a while.

>>77450674
Ah yep you're right, I only read part of the description, my bad. That's on me.
>Synthetic amylin and calcitonin receptor

>>77449847
S H I L L T H R E A D
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Calories in, calories out, you lazy fucking fucks.

>>77450841
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Still haven't touched my Tirz yet.

Has anyone here gotten shredded (<=10% bf) and maintained it after tapering off GLP?

Don't want to take this stuff forever.

>>77450950
Not yet

>>77450841
>Calories in, calories out, you lazy fucking fucks.
Actually the old cheat code for losing weight used to be fasting combined with keto diet. Keto diet kept the ketosis you gained by fasting, and people often did rolling fasts, like fasting for 72 hours, then a keto meal, then fasting again for 72 hours. Same effects with less hunger and appetite since fasting does that naturally, and very good effect.
There even used to be a fasting general, /fast/, but I guess it got obsolete when the glp-1 meds arrived. It's still a decent alternative if you don't want to spend the money, aren't able to get a prescription, or don't want side effects from the meds.

>>77450673
yeah morning is usually better
start off with low doses so the sleeping sides wont hit you as hard as you start increasing the dose

>>77449883
I agree. Reta may be more potent but comes with more side effects aswell.

>>77450599
What kind of blood test would you even need? Tirz improves literally all your markers.

>>77450411
Take enclomiphene if it's secondary hypogonadism TRT otherwise. No need to suffer these days. If you're using a GLP people already consider you a fraudster.

>>77450599
buy it from china you stupid nigger. how low has the barrier to entry to this website fallen that we're literally giving money to kikes in robes instead of yellow jews? got to glp1forum and find the sellers tab and buy it from them it'll cost you a tenth of what you'll pay at the doctor and you don't have to talk to a retarded nigger who checks webmd for 90% of the stuff that he prescribes.

>>77450841
made the calories in part bearable for me. some of us just feel hunger a lot more intensely than others. sorry that you're going to have to compete with more people sucks to be you

>>77452003
nta but enclo basically did nothing for me although i only took 6.25mg daily and I have no idea if i have hypogonadism (i doubt it)

>>77450841
>Calories in, calories out
you'll never guess what GLP-1 helps with

>>77452329
Interesting, yeah it should have done something at least. Did you get blood tests before/during? You should be able to see the shift in testosterone levels and FSH and LH. If your FSH and LH went up but your testosterone stayed constant (and is low) then you have primary hypogonadism. If your FSH and LH were low and your test is low and both increase on it then you have secondary hypogonadism (my case). If you're on a caloric deficit the enclo will still work as long as you don't have primary hypogonadism. The reason why specifically that type causes it not to work is basically it doesn't matter how loud your brain screams at your balls to work, they are maxed out. Secondary means your brain doesn't scream loud enough. No hypogonadism means brain speaks at a normal volume and your balls do their job. Note that the average test levels in men has steadily decreased over the decades so I wouldn't really trust the current outdated ranges.

It also could be that the meds you got were bunk if they were gray market.

Personally speaking it 2.5x my total test and free test.

how much weight are you losing per week? are you worried about face sagging / ozempic face? don't you have to take this drug for life?

>>77452365
>how much weight are you losing per week?
About 1lb a week.

>are you worried about face sagging / ozempic face?
To some extent, but not more than just generally being fat.

>don't you have to take this drug for life?
It'd not be ideal, but if that's how I get to not be fat, I guess I'm doing that.

These threads are probably some of the most hostile on the entire board for some reason.

>>77452365
>are you worried about face sagging / ozempic face?
you have to worry about this regardless of the weight loss method you use. that's the nature of weight loss
>don't you have to take this drug for life?
in theory wouldn't it be easier for someone to eat at maintenance naturally after losing weight? i think it's the 1000 calorie/day deficit that's the most challenging, and where glp-1 can be the most helpful

>>77452409
>you have to worry about this regardless of the weight loss
true but from what I've seen the muscle loss with glp-1 is high which worsens the soft tissue sagging in the face

>>77452409
You don't have to worry about it with DNP
>>77452413
Maybe semaglutide but tirzepatide is better with this

>>77452413
>from what I've seen the muscle loss with glp-1 is high which worsens the soft tissue sagging in the face
completely mitigated if you eat protein and do resistance exercise, regardless of how you lose weight. glp-1 independently does not make muscle loss worse. it enables fatass retards to lose weight by eating slightly less goyslop and doing no exercise, whereas they may have failed trying to do that without glp-1, resulting in a bad outcome.. but if you have an ounce of common sense, you don't have to worry about it

>>77449847
>reta
>5mg
>130kg down to 90kg
anyone had any experience with coming off reta? it's probably a good idea to start titrating down but I'm not sure how slowly to do it. I don't really care about having to stay on low dose forever unless there's a huge crackdown on chinese manufacturing

also for all the tirzfags my mum had it prescribed at max dose for a year and didn't lose any weight, tried reta and it made her stop binge eating completely. some people have some really weird responses to these drugs

>>77452529
Exactly right. It affects everyone differently.

>>77452365
2-3 lbs a week, but I'm working out with this too.

I'm not worried about sagging skin cause it'll be easy for me to hide it. I'm injecting copper peptide also, so I'm not concerned for my skin getting too old-looking.

I don't think I'll have to take it for life, but fuck it sure helps. I take tirz, and I'm gonna stack it with a little reta soon.

1.5 mg Wegovy, increases to 4 mg next month I think. So far no impact or noticeable change.

6'2" ~215 trying to get to 190 without losing muscle, when does this stuff start working?

>>77452738
Wegovy only goes to 2.4mg max though?

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>>77452738
you've been tracking your calories and eating at a deficit right? you weren't expecting it to work by magic were you

Tirz 7.5 soon lads, preparing for nausea.

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I wish it wasn't so expensive to acquire. I just want to take a pill and stop eating.

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How long is reta/tirz good in the fridge after reconstituting?

>>77452794
>2.4max

That's semaglutide AKA ozempic

My pharmacist told me that Mounjaro only lasts 30 days once opened but my doctor prescribed me a 5mg dose so I could start taking 2.5mg for 8 weeks (yes this is me >>77450280 )
Is my doctor a quack? Will my Mounjaro last that for 8 weeks or will I be injecting ineffective slop after the 4th injection?

>>77452365
>don't you have to take this drug for life?
Yeah but orals are already on the market for maintenance once they go generic. I consider medication no different than supplements and I don't mind taking them indefinitely.

>>77453780
In bacteriostatic water I wouldn't exceed three months.
>>77453812
It starts to lose effect after two months in the fridge.

>>77453812
I believe that they're legally required to say you can't store it for more than 4 weeks, because that's what Lilly claims, and they can't say you're fine to go against what the manufacturer says about their drugs.
Even though there's an obvious interest for them to sell you the drugs every 4 weeks and not have you buy 5mg pens and just use 2.5mg for 4 weeks.

But, what you're doing is something a lot of people do, and nobody has died from it yet. My sister did it with a 10mg pen and used it for like four months. She's still alive.

So, I mean manage your own risk. But, also it's a subcutaneous injection of tirzepatide, you're not gonna fuck yourself up that badly.

Do the shots just pierce the skin or do you have to find a vein? I'm not in the medical field so I'm a bit worried about hurting myself or doing something wrong

>>77452409
>1000 calorie/day deficit that's the most challenging
>1 kcal/day deficit
>challenging
How weak are you?

>>77454188
Well, he's only gonna get weaker with a calorie deficit, anon.

>>77454128
It's idiot-proof. Just stick the needle in your stomach.

>>77454128
You just grab a wad of bellyfat, jab the needle into it, depress the plunger and maybe hold it there for like 10 seconds if you wanna make sure, then you pull it out and you're done.

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>>77453784
So is Wegovy.

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>>77454409

what does this do? does it make u not hungry or is it something else?

>>77454535
In a nutshell for GLP-1s across the board:
>Appetite is suppressed
>Food noise is reduced to almost nothing
>Blood sugar control is better overall
>Risk levels of heart attacks and strokes are lowered
>Blood pressure is lowered
>Kidneys are better protected
>Fatty Liver Disease is reduced
>Sleep apnea is reduced over time
Different types target different areas, but that's the basics of it. Of course, it's only a "miracle drug" as long as you're actively putting in the effort to stay fit and eat healthier at the same time.

>>77454549
>Fatty Liver Disease is reduced

I thought only Reta did this

>>77454637
They all do it to a degree, but Semaglutide is the one that helps the most with it.

>>77454549
Don't forget that it increases your body's insulin sensitivity which is huge for people (like me) with insulin resistance.

>>77454650
Yep exactly

>tfw the local warehouse has been restocked
Grabbed a few RT10 kits, feelsgoodman.

>on tirz for a few weeks while only eating whole foods
>0 side effects
>little to no hunger
>feel full faster
>eat desserts, chips and other slop one day
>day after got incredible stomach pain could barely stand straight
>also got the ''sulfur burps'' not that I ate unhealthy one day
Anyone else had this? I don't think I'll ever indulge in those ''foods'' ever again after experiencing this, my body was in so much pain it's crazy. Felt amazing while eating only whole foods, I feel like the people who get side effects on these glp-1 drugs eat unhealthy foods often, if you only eat healthy foods you'll feel 0 side effects.

>>77455301
Your stomach has likely shrunken a fair bit since starting Tirz. I had a point where after a few months, I had a burger for my birthday and not even 2 hours later I was in pain and felt extremely sick.

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>>77449883
I'm on tirz 15mg with an official prescription but I feel like I've bottomed out at 240 pounds and it feels as hard to go below that as where I used to be before tirz when I was a super fatty.
Have people experimented with upping their dosage beyond 15?

>>77454649
>They all do it to a degree, but Semaglutide is the one that helps the most with it.
First part is true, but the second part is false. Sema is the least effective (but still has a massive reduction, something like 30-40%) of the "big 3", tirz is very effective (~50-60%), reta is the best of the bunch at over 80%.

>>77455394
Your stomach can't shrink without surgery

>>77455810
Yeah it's something like stomach stretchness from what I remember

I've only been on mounjaro for a short period but holy shit guys, this is life changing for me, just having little to no hunger and not thinking about food all day, I can actually just enjoy doing things and focus on those things, or do regular work and not think about food all the time. I wouldn't mind staying on this for the rest of my life, even when I'm maintaining my weight, I will probably stay on 5mg forever. Eating is still easy, I can probably still overeat, but it's just so much easier not to. I have almost never done it, and haven't binged at all.

>>77455810
It definitely will. It just takes a long time of only eating small meals. I used to be able to eat huge volumes when my stomach was bigger.

>>77455667
I've never heard of people going above 15mg but it would be interesting. Apparently some people have mutations in the glp1 receptor that can make the drug more or less effective so maybe mega dosing could help. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10330-z

11mg triz. Still fat, but less fat than before. Stil got a good 60-65 to go. I had to stop my dose for about 4 weeks due to travel. Maintained but then drank a lot so can’t exactly tell what was water and what was lard. I crushed an 11mg dose straight up this week with no sides besides forgetting to eat. Hoping to see more progress within the next few weeks. Is 15 truly the max? I keep upping dosage every 4 weeks.

>>77450398
DNP is obsolete now, I don't see any reason to use it when GLPs exist

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>>77449849
reminder: you don't need to up the dosage and switch meds to rely on the "passive weight loss" effect. just count calories and use your GLP1 as a tool that makes it easy to stay in a deficit
picrelated is me on 1.5mg Ozempic. relied on the passive effect till the plateau, then started counting calories. haven't upped my dose for over one year now.

>>77452365
about 1kg/week
you mean weight loss face?
yeah probably but patents for sema run out in a few years then this shit will be priced at ibuprofen levels

>>77452413
muscle loss is a fucking non issue. the muscle fibers don't go away. they just thin out. regaining your "lost muscle" is absurdly easy - they want to come back once you start lifting when not in a deficit.
i wish people would stop repeating those normoid concern trolls; muh muscle loss, muh bone density, muh malnutrition, muh whateverthefucksomefatwhoreonredditcomesuptorationalizestayingfat

>>77453812
they want you to buy the relatively more expensive lower doses instead of buying a max dose pen and using that over months
i'm always buying sema max dose pen and count clicks to spread it out over 8 to 12 weeks per pen. it still works and i'm still alive. i haven't found one reason why the shit should go bad in the fridge "once opened".

>>77455301
got sulphur burps from eating salmon and bread yesterday
before that nothing for weeks
so it's either a lot of fat, or shitty carbs (i usually dont eat bread) or the combination of both

>>77449927
What about STG

>>77455667
I'd add a low dose of Reta

>>77449847
been on reta 3 months now and i still absolutely detest food. i have zero interest in food and hate having to eat breakfast.

>>77457298
It doesn't cause muscle loss like GLPs do and its mechanism of action isn't garbage like GLPs (which prevent gastric emptying, enjoy your SIBO I guess)

>>77458227
GLPs only cause muscle loss if you don't exercise and eat proper nutrients lol

also they don't prevent gastric emptying they just slow the process down so you eat less food

>>77457380

>>77443780
>>77443781

Does anyone still occasionally binge on GLPs? I can easily throw down like 5k kcal in a day even on 10mg tirz. feels bad nigga, although I naturally just eat almost nothing the following day or 2

>>77458227
There is no mechanism showing GLP 1 RAs cause any more skeletal muscle mass loss than non-pharmacological caloric deficits. It's also important to note that while all muscle mass is lean mass, not all lean mass is muscle mass.

>>77458227
Retards still push this muscle loss meme as if GLPs have some inherent mechanism to them that cause muscle loss. It's simply a side effect of losing weight. If you don't believe me, do a bulking cycle on a GLP and see if you still lose muscle.

>>77458793
Yep it happens for me from time to time. I get to a point where I've had minimal food for a while and my body can't handle it, so I have a small binge (and then feel like shit an hour later).

>>77458798
I would go as far as saying incretin mimetics exhibit muscle sparing properties, they directly increase muscle insulin sensitivity and glucose uptake for example.

>>77458801
Fucking word. It's common sense, yet these nigs are so determined to make sure people stay fat and off GLP-1s that they forgo basic logic.

>>77458761
>>77458798
>>77458801
Retards, I didn't say that GLP-1s have some special mechanism that makes you lose more muscle than "just eating less"
HOWEVER DNP has been shown to cause less muscle loss than "just eating less"

>>77457213
It is.

>>77458871
tirzepatide never cooked anybody to death

>>77458871
DNP has a zillion more side effects than GLP. Muscle loss doesn't happen on GLP if you eat protein and lift, which is something you should be doing anyway if you're mildly serious about your health. This is a no-brainer.

>>77459066
>I'm a retard that doesn't know how to use drugs properly
I accept your concession
>>77459127
All of DNP's side effects go away upon discontinuation and you really don't need to be on it for long anyways

>>77459140
>I'm a retard that doesn't know how to use drugs properly
I accept your concession

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>>77459140
>t. red line bird

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Lily has to be fuming that all their shit is just compounded and the FDA does nothing but finger wag, lol

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>>77456521
Bruh this is exactly how i felt being able to activate my knowledge of knowing i have unlimited will power without having to do anything or take any drugs, my freaken hunger just disappeared and i stopped being addicted to food or thinking about it all the time

sucks you have to pay shitloads of money instead of activating it within yourself for free lmao

Been on GLP-1s for ~9 months now, and one thing I've noticed is that I can be hungry, but the thought of eating anything is just disgusting. There is basically nothing that I want to eat.

Again, I'm hungry. I would like to eat something, but there's no food that appeals to me.

Is this a common experience?

>>77459922
Repeating digits!
Yes, extremely common.

>>77459416
Why? What happened?

>>77459922
I've been on it for 1 month and sometimes that's the case yeah. Good to force a protein shake down your throat to avoid muscle loss, anon. Easy calories in. Tastes great with milk/yoghurt and a banana.

What's the best site to order from in Canada? It's so expensive up here.

>>77459922
I get this but usually the hunger is quite dull. When I was dieting without the food noise was super hard to ignore and I would be uncomfortably hungry. So this is preferable despite not being ideal.

>>77459922
this is not my experience. i am still hungry and want to eat, it's just not overwhelming and i can still focus on normal life things and sleep while hungry
>t. 7.5mg tirzepatide

do you guys have a method for keeping things cool while traveling? I have to go visit family and A i dont know how well HCG will do in the car drive 2.5 hours and B i cant put that shit in my mothers fridge. I guess I could disguise it or something? is there any merit to these expensive little 'insulin fridge' things?

>>77449847
Or you could just not eat as much

>>77460181
just order from china boss

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My provider just denied my mounjaro reorder after 8 months of orders and - 70lbs, bm is 23..is it over?

>>77460710
get switched to another GLP1, and if they won't cover it there are options. Zepbound has the savings card from the manufacturer or the direct-from-manufacturer option

>>77460641
I use a small portable fridge for my driving, as I'm on the road a lot. It's a little bit expensive but worth it. Mine has a cable which connects straight to the cigarette lighter socket.

>>77459416
Won't anybody think of the big pharma profits? They could be making trillions instead of hundreds of billions.
I personally think the Novo and Lilly CEOs and board of director members each deserve twenty new yachts each year instead of 5. It's an outrage.

>>77460641
Is it lyophilized powder? if so, it'll be fine without refrigeration. They sit in hot as fuck chink warehouses for weeks or months then hot as fuck shipping containers/trucks. If it's already liquid then i'd just put a vacuum thermos in the fridge for a few hours, then put in the compound, close it, and put it in a cooler with ice for the trip. dunno about when you get to your mother's house, maybe you can keep it in the fridge there undisturbed.

>>77460652
I promised the wife that I'll only buy domestic unfortunately.

>>77461062
>>77449847
STG has a vendor list for domestic warehouses. Don't buy single vials, they're dodgy and dangerous as fuck. Get kits of 10 vials.

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I'm thankful that this medication is making me feel like shit after I've had shitty foods such as high fat/sugary foods. It's just more motivation for me to quit them. My food has been whole foods for a whole month now, every time I think about eating garbage, even just a few bites, I realize how shit I will feel and don't do it. Some people also hate that they don't enjoy food anymore, but I'm glad I don't anymore, food is just fuel for me now and I have stable energy, can still lift the same weights and walk lots every day. Food was an addiction to my everyday life and now it's a nourishment for my daily life.

I was on this for a year and am now off it for the last 6 months. My food noise came back but not as strong, but my discipline for diet and control has remained.
I'd be interested to see what 3-10 years of GLP-1 usage does for the mental and chemical rewiring of the brain, especially if long term users stop taking them.

>>77461533
I don't even go to them anymore, I know I'll just be disappointed, all the breads just taste too sweet to me now and the food is usually way too fatty for me to enjoy, my family members don't even ask to go out to eat with me anymore, they know the answer

>>77452529
Yeah, I switched from reta to tirz. Didn't titrate down at all. Wasn't really necessary, didn't suffer any negative effects.

Tirz is shit though, so I'm switching back to reta. I suppose tirz might be good for maintenance, but I still have another ~25lbs to lose.

>>77461514
>>77452529
You guys need to include timeline otherwise this means nothing

>>77452529
Has reta been FDA approved yet? Not worried about side effects just want to wait for more common suppliers to show up.

>>77459922
Only fast foods and sugar. I literally get repulsed when driving by a McDicks and the thought of eating anything sugar related has me gag. it's fucking wierd.

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What are the downsides to just running this stuff indefinitely? Tirzepatide has changed my life for the better and I wouldn't mind running it for a lean bulk after my cut to keep my calories in check

>>77462549
Just low dose it. Like half of the smallest recommended dose at 1.25mg and spread it every 9 days instead of 7. Far less "impact" but still suppresses food hunger while letting you eat a normal amount.

>>77462549
i cant imagine what the downsides would be in terms of health would. cost/money is the only downside i can think of

>>77462527
The closer it gets to FDA approval, the fewer stateside suppliers there will be. Just get used to buying stuff from the Chinaman with crypto.

>>77462549
Pretty sure GLP-1s are intended for indefinite use. Semaglutide was originally a diabetes medication, and diabetes never goes away.

>>77462527
It's got approval from "Joey" in China what more can you want

>>77462520
it was 40kg in 6ish months for me

>>77462549
no downsides unless you're one of the people to get bad side effects. GLP-1s have been on the market for a couple decades at this point, and the first one to be approved specifically for weight loss was in 2014. If there were any long term downsides to GLP-1s we would've found something by now

if anything there's evidence and studies supporting staying on them being a net positive for your overall health

>>77462759
>diabetes never goes away.
>he doesn't know

You niggas are pathetic, just lose weight natty without fatty shots lmao

>>77462820
Feelsgoodman

Can I still continue my gallon of BBC cum a week while on tirz? I’m a white woman, if that matters.

>>77463050
I'm stronger and less fat than you because I'm not too pussy to fraud.

>>77462793
11 months for me.

>risking osteoporosis instead of just microdosing meth like we did in the early 2000s
Scene girls solved obesity decades ago but y’all are too afraid of the truth

>>77464292
Microdosing meth doesn't really work for hyperfatties. We already tried it in the 80s and 90s, it's called phentermine

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Weed 100% cancels out trizeptide bros if any of you were wondering

>>77449847
Oh my god being off of this shit BLOWS SO FUCKING HARD
I’m off for the first time in like two years, because I have to be for my godskinectomy, and my entire brain is just screaming “FOOD FOOD FOOD ACQUIRE FOOD EAT EAT” 24/7 and refuses to even let me think about any other topic for any period of time
Fuck this so much

My mom has been trying to lose weight for a while but the GLP1 she tried made her extremely nauseous and she could barely get out of bed on it. Anyone here have the same thing happen and if so what worked for you?

>>77464697
It all depends on what she's taking and how big her dose is per week.

>>77464324
Another reason why I am planning to stay on for life, are you going to, after your godskinectomy? I feel like the only time I'll ever be off is if I'm going on vacation or surgeries. I don't mind gaining a few kilos again if I'm on vacation, I can easily lose it again with this medication. I'm maintaining my weight quite well for the past few months with 5mg mounjaro

>>77464699
To me it depends what kind of food I'm eating, if I'm still eating garbage often with this medication I'll always feel like shit, you really have to try and eat clean as fuck

Anybody else using this with a healthy BMI? Just trying to reduce food noise and wanna feel full faster, I'm trying to maintain my weight and it's so easy to do with tirz

>>77460181
>>77461062
Go to stairwaytogray, vendor promos china + eu , search term Canada. There is a vendor with a Canadian warehouse

>>77465668
That's me, but I'm on Cagrilintide. It's not a GLP-1 but an Amylin Analog. I'm only on 0.5mg because it's so overpowered for me with food noise and appetite suppression that if I go higher, I have some extreme fatigue. I got on this after losing 43kg in a year on Reta and Tirz.
Tirz will work well if you're just after appetite suppression and feeling full, but it's ultimately up to you what you want to pin.

>>77449847
Lost 80 pounds on mounjaro but my dick shrunk like half an inch so I got off it and gained almost all the weight back. I’ll never trust medjews again

Bought some reta from a Chinese vendor and feels like it might either be bunk or underdosed... have been taking 6mg for 2 weeks now after running out of my previous supply and getting more food noise than I previously did. Is there a reasonable way to self test vs sending it to janoshik.

>>77466121
Self testing is expensive, see if anyone on STG's Testing channels has that batch from that vendor in the testing results. Some blokes have entire groups dedicated to just one batch where they all chip in (voluntarily of course).
Reta is also known to be much less effective at food noise than Sema and Tirz, but everyone reacts differently.

>>77466128
Im thinking more like if double the dose and see if ft fucks me up and makes me not eat at all or can I do some cheap test that would show its working or not (keto/glucose strips).

Ive been using reta for 3 months so know it works on me just feels like this dose is less effective than my previous batch

>>77466143
Yeah see how you go.
The other options are to lower Reta and stack Tirz at 2.5mg-5mg, or stay at 6mg Reta and stack Cagri at 0.25mg-0.5mg. I'm on 5mg Reta and 2.5mg Tirz (Reta every Sunday night and Tirz every Thursday morning), so far it's a godsend.

>>77466149
Not sure how that is relevant if the batch is bunk

>>77466157
That's assuming it's all good. If it's a bunk one, then yeah disregard stacking.

>>77466121
Janoshik is like $150 don't listen to that other guy, just get it tested
>>77466144
Dear god I can't believe people are buying unfiltered vials, anything to lose weight huh

>>77449847

This thread belongs on adv. There's nothing fit about you fat ticking time bombs.

77466208
Cope harder faggot

I had to stop mounjaro for 2 weeks because I was on vacation, how low do I restart at? Was at 7.5mg for 3 months

>>77466208
>There's nothing fit about you fat ticking time bombs

Weight loss — GLP-1 drugs can produce substantial, sustained weight loss by reducing appetite, increasing fullness, and decreasing calorie intake.

Improved blood sugar control — They lower blood glucose by increasing glucose-dependent insulin release, reducing glucagon, and slowing gastric emptying.

Reduced progression from prediabetes to type 2 diabetes — Weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity can substantially reduce the likelihood that prediabetes progresses to diabetes.

Type 2 diabetes remission in some patients — Significant weight loss and metabolic improvement can allow some people, particularly those with relatively early diabetes, to achieve glucose levels below the diabetic range.

Reduced risk of heart attack — Large cardiovascular trials show that GLP-1 receptor agonists reduce heart attacks in people at elevated cardiovascular risk.

Reduced risk of stroke — GLP-1 receptor agonists reduce the incidence of stroke in several high-risk populations.

Reduced major cardiovascular events — They reduce the combined risk of cardiovascular death, heart attack, and stroke, including in some people with obesity who do not have diabetes.

Reduced cardiovascular mortality — Clinical trials show a reduction in deaths caused by cardiovascular disease among high-risk patients taking GLP-1 receptor agonists.

Reduced overall mortality in high-risk populations — Large meta-analyses suggest GLP-1 receptor agonists modestly reduce the risk of death from any cause.

Lower blood pressure — GLP-1 therapies typically produce modest reductions in systolic and diastolic blood pressure.

Improved cholesterol and triglycerides — Treatment can lower triglycerides and improve several other lipid and cardiometabolic risk markers.

>>77464292
Meth these days is mixed and cut with all sorts of poisonous shit these days. I tried microdosing it and it completely fucked up my bowels and digestive system. I remember anons talking about how it gave them stomach ulcers too.

i keep hearing that reta will have heart sides and quiet food noise much less than tirz, and that switching from tirz to reta ends up making the food noise reduction from reta nonexistent. how true is this?

>>77466450
That happened to me.
Everyone's different though.

>>77464292
microdosing meth is much more likely to lead to osteoporosis

>>77466208
so, funny story, i'm not fat anymore..

>>77466227
2 weeks? just restart it as if nothing happened

>>77466476
Same

>>77466476
>>77466760

Lol, yes, you are, stupid too. All your fat cells are just lying in wait, cause you took the lazy way, and didn't address the real problem. So the moment you cant get it, you'll be yelling at your pharmacist that youre gaining all your weight back.

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>>77466229

Youre just describing health benefits of not being a fat oinker. Which you are cause you literally need a pill, cause you can't excercise self control.

Diet and excercise come with the same health benefits, but unlike your fat pills dont come with a list of the following side effects. Get some willpower

>>77467188
4 of these are avoidable by not making retarded choices while on the drug and thyroid cancer risk hasn't been shown in humans

This guy is really seething about this

>>77465668
Yes. 2.5mg blunts some of the food noise for me and most of the hunger but I can still end up feeling hungry/low blood sugar. In the 3.5-5mg range is when it really starts to completely cancel out all cravings. I don't feel hunger at those doses like a normal person would either. It's like there is a brain signal that my stomach is empty but no blood sugar drop, shakiness, etc.

So 2.5mg is better for overall life enjoyment and I could basically just eat efficiently without any tirz. 5mg makes it nearly impossible to eat maintenance so I'm going to use that to cut.

>>77466450
I haven't hit heart sides from reta but tirz itself has nuked my HRV and increase my RHR. Tirz is stronger for appetite suppression. To explain this, each mg you inject is some blend of 2 things in tirz and 3 things in reta. On top of that IIRC glucagon was a "surprising" addition which counter intuitively made reta more effective at overall weight loss due to it maintaining a higher BMR. I forget why exactly I'm just vaguely pulling that from memory.

>>77466227
Yeah like >>77466477 said. Half life is 1 week. So missing 2 doses isn't that bad. You could also take half the dose twice a week for 2 weeks to ramp it up more gradually.

>>77467170
>All your fat cells are just lying in wait
This is what happens on normal weight loss as well though, lol. I've lost it the normal way before, gained some back, repeat repeat repeat, just tired of that, got enough money to pay for this to maintain my weight loss permanently.

>>77467188
>Diet and excercise come with the same health benefits
But I do this while taking 5mg of tirz

I moved up to 5mg Tirz today. I have four kits (40 vials but now 39) of 30mg vials, so I decided to increase the concentration of the dose with lower BAC water - instead of reconstituting 3mL for 30mg, I've done 1.5mL so my injections remain at 2.5mg rather than injecting 5mg of BAC water.
I've done this with Reta; the effects are the same. There's no difference outside of the fact that your BAC water amount is lower and you do 25 units on the syringe instead of 50 units.

>>77467805
Nice, Tirz is king.

>>77459922
This sounds like hell.

>>77468587
it's nothing compared to nonstop food cravings

>>77466208
>guys please go back to talking about snake juice please please

>just took my first hit of 2.5mg tirz

This is it lads, anyone got any advice for what I can expect and when it starts kicking in?

>>77468783
If you ever overate, highly suggest you don't, also cut down on foods with lots of fat/sugar, you'll feel fucking terrible for hours, depending on how much you ate it can last extremely long. Today I was reminded why I should not eat 2 large plates of pasta, even though it was within my daily calories you really gotta space out your meals better. Was on the toilet for an hour afterwards.

>>77467531
If you don't exercise your ass off as well, you're losing 30-40% of the weight as muscle, btw

>>77469454
>you're losing 30-40% of the weight as muscle, btw
So we're just making up numbers at this point? Lmao, also this only happens to retards who don't know how to count calories, don't eat enough protein and don't know how much to eat to lose a normal amount of weight per week.

>>77469603
No, you NEED to lift heavy as well, or you WILL develop sarcopenia, you absolute mongoloid

>>77469727
Ofcourse, I thought that was obvious about our conversation, yes I still do that and many people here do too.

>>77464697
Try micro dosing 2x a week and drinking electrolytes. I started at 0.125 mg tirz 2x a week , am at 0.5 mg 2x a week now (so my weekly dose is 1.0 mg which is below the 2.5 mg starting dose) . lost 80+ lbs since jan. No side effects

>>77468783
How are you holding up? Any nausea yet? The food cravings and hunger pangs gone?

>>77470400

Update. But I don't really feel any different? Woke up this morning and maybe felt slightly bloated but otherwise not too bad, had my morning coffee and felt normal and went about my day. Then had lunch about 12pm and same thing, nothing out of the ordinary, maybe felt slightly bloated after but didn't get any of the nausea or the feeling of being physically unable to finish like some people have documented. Cravings and food noise seem slightly reduced but again not really on a noticeable level, like I ate a few hours ago but still definitely feel like I could go for more.

Is this normal, was kinda expecting more desu unless it takes awhile to build up in your system

>>77470544
It took a week for me personally. See how you go tomorrow with it.

>>77449847
275 -> 235 in a lil over 3 months on reta
goal weight is 200-210 at 5'10

i feel significantly lighter but im kinda tired of the anhedonia
stress + low pleasure not the best combo

>>77471056
The what now

>>77470544
It can take weeks to build up in your system, 2.5 was considered the loading dose, to monitor for side effects in the trials. Super responders it hits within 24 hours but that not true for most people despite what you see online. One day it will be 5 pm and you'll realize you've eaten nothing all day, but that might be next week or 6 weeks from now.

Is there anything more cucked than taking GLP-1s? At least with test you put on serious muscle and gain BDE. Grim!

>>77471608
By taking GLP1 you lose undeseriable fat mass.

TnT (test and tirz) is GOAT

>>77472216
DYNAMITE

Been on 2.5mg, losing weight for a month now, should I even go up to 5mg? I have 0 side effects, food noise is less, hunger is less, I feel full a bit more easily now. I can just control myself easier with this

>>77472672
Eventually the effects will most likely wear off and you'll need to up the dose, but for now just stay at 2.5mg for as long as it works

>>77449847

>Been on Ozempic for 35 weeks
>0.5mg a week
>Starting Weight = 540lbs
>2500cal - 3500cal a day (not too strict)
>Noticing it's wearing off near the end of the week where I splurge my cals
>Lost around 100 pounds (46kg)
>Moderate exercise (3 - 5 times a week)

Do I need to up my dose to 1mg a week? Or just exercise a bit more? And cut prob should cut my cals to 2200 or something.

>>77465668
>using this on a healthy BMI
Yes, that's me. I started at about 24% body fat and am dropping about a pound a week on 1.5 mg a week of reta. As I get lower, I seem to need to raise the dose a bit, but there's plenty of headroom there, so I want to get down to 15% and just maintain there long term, even if it means never getting off this stuff.

>>77472765
>540 lbs

Why are you pussy-footing around? Get on reta and titrate up to 8 mg a week right now and don't lower the dose until your weight starts with a 1. Lift heavy to retain muscle and bone mass. People say that for the loose skin you might try GHK-CU and/or HGH.

>>77471595
>anhedonia
Anhedonia is a mental health term for the inability to feel pleasure or joy from things you once liked.

Reta rewires your brains reward system and causes you to feel flat emotionally. It's part of why people are able to quit their addictions while on reta because it no longer gives them the same amount of pleasure.

>>77449847
Not asking for sources, just asking how much does everything generally cost you? I see Chinese vendors selling the powder itself at okay prices, but you need BAC water, syringes, a whole lot more, right? Or apparently you don’t need BAC water if you’re reconstituting for one-time use?

>>77473423
Budget for 300/USD on average

>>77472760
The effects only ''wear off'' on low doses right? Many people have been on these stuff for 3-4 years and it still works, for maintaining their weight loss

>>77473423
i go the proper prescription route and it is $450/month

>>77469454
>>77469603
30-40% of your weight as muscle is a ridiculous and fantastical figure. the studies that showed this state LEAN MASS. This does not mean muscle exclusively. This is EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT SUBCUTANEOUS BODY FAT. It includes visceral/organ fat, intracellular water, muscle and liver glycogen, bone mass, etc, The average fatty normgroid in these studies does not even have 30-40% of their total body weight in muscle mass to lose, it is a ridiculous assumption. They would look worse than holodomor victims 1 week away from starving to death if this were the case.

>>77473698
I think it depends on how much you're eating. If you're in a caloric deficit yeah you'll most likely have to bump up the dose eventually, if you're eating maintenence or lean bulking 2.5mg might be fine because the more food you're eating is keeping you satiated better than if you were cutting

>>77454637
You can do this by laying off carbs, avoiding hepatoxins, and letting it heal. Liver has a lot of resilience.

>>77473999
Yep.

>>77473423
Tirz30 kit $100 for 6 months(maxing out dose)
Reta30 kit $200 for 6 months (maxing out)
Syringes $15 for 100
Bac water
hospira $40 for 2 vials, use for 90days each
Genetek. $15 for 5 ampules through a reseller, or $30 for 100 ampules direct
Alcohol wipes $2 for 200
So $25/month tirz, $40/reta
>Best practices
Group testing $50-100
Individual testing $400
Filtering supplies $75

>>77473423
you have chatgt to ask al these dumb fucking questions bro
just get some fucking needles, some bac water, and some vials of reta

why the fuck do you retards overcomplicate this shit

>>77473423
There are varying levels of legitness from an FDA approved, prescribed med to trust me bro vials from some dude. I'm going with Tirazo (Bangladeshi generic tirzepatide from a legit pharmaceutical company)

>>77449847
My 16 year old fat disgraceful son is 5'9 and 205lbs. Will GLP-1s work for him? If so, any recommendations? He cannot lose weight on his own, and this is my last resort.

>>77476300
yes tirzeppy
but you should also get him a personal trainer or some sort of way to get him lifting

>>77474214
>laying off carbs
You can actually do this by just losing being in a caloric deficit. You don't need to cut out a specific macro.
>hepatoxins
Sure if your ALT or AST are elevated, but if they're normal, than losing weight is how you get rid of it.

>>77476300
youre a disgraceful parent
the only way he can get fat is from the food you feed him and the fact you didn't put him in sports

teach him how to cook his own food or else he will be fat and rely on drugs his whole life

>>77476312
How much should I start him off with?
>>77476387
I have tried for almost 4 years now. He was playing football 2 years ago and he was always on the sidelines. The one play he did get in he got injured. I wish I would have worn a condom.

>>77476416
2.5mg, you increase does +2.5mg every 4 weeks until you reach satisfactory effect. max dose is 15mg.
also the other anon is right, it's the parents fault if their child is obese. obesity is both food and activity, so you need to cut the goyslop out. if he was bad at football you should have had him doing something else. thankfully there's time to fix it, you can get him working with a personal trainer and get him lifting.

>>77476416
>>77476429
It's also worth noting that if he is losing consistently on a lower dose, it's better to keep him on that dose until it stops working. Don't just increase as a race to 15mg.

>>77476300
>He cannot lose weight on his own
He can and you're just a nigger. He's fucking 16, you should be able to restrict his food intake so he loses weight.

I just cant take a shit anymore, and the laxative isnt working. send help.

>>77476489
>Fleet liquid glycerin suppositories
>32 ounce Gatorade with 2 caps of mirilax
>Stay home

1 cap of mirilax in 8 ounces of water every 3 days to prevent reoccurrence or magnesium oxide 300MG at bedtime everyday. Drink 64 ounces of non-caffinated liquids per day

>>77476416
he is 16 his body literally a fat burning machine
stop feeding him shit food and teach him how to cook

Thanks to the anons who recommended Cagrilintide. I know it's not a GLP-1, but holy fucking shit it's overpoweringly effective with purely food noise elimination and appetite suppression. The only downside is the heavy fatigue the next day, but I'll take it though (I pin on Saturday afternoon so it's perfect timing for a lazy Sunday).
>2.5mg Reta every Wednesday
>0.5mg Cagri every Saturday
>2mg GHK-CU (100mg vial) daily
THE stack, gentlemen.

>>77477891
Just do DNP at that point lmao how much of a loser do you have to be to need BOTH reta and cagri together

>Obsolete DNPnigger posting again

>>77477911
Your GLP-1 muscle loss? The GI side effects? The fasting response and low energy?

>>77457324
>>77458761
>>77458801
>>77459127

>just lift in a deficit
>just carefully monitor your protein intake
>just handle the GI side effects
>just let your body wither away from extended fasting
All this to avoid a little sweating

I'm on wegovy 2,4mg and am having serious muscle loss and skin sagging, lost 15 kg in 8 months, I buy it at pharmacy/prescription and pay around 190 €/month
its wonderful otherwise once u figure out the side effects, but the skin sag and muscle loss ... I can't

>>77478607
losing weight without lifting and eating protein will do that to you

>>77478607
I lost over double that in less time and didn't have any issues with it. Your doctor didn't tell you to eat enough protein and lift?

Say it with me

Tirz
Is
King

>>77458871
this retard is promoting outdated shit compounds from bodybuilding forums 20 years ago when tirz is a miracle drug that leads to weight loss, rapid visceral fat reduction, massive decrease in whole body inflammation, cartilage regrowth (previously thought to be impossible), reduction in alcohol consumption. get with the times, old man

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I've been on 15mg zepbound (tirz) prescription since maybe last July but my food noise returned a while ago and consequently I have plateaued in my weight loss at 270 pounds and food cravings once again govern my life.
Where do I go from here?

Why should I do tirz over reta

>>77458227
Muscle is lost because fatasses don't work out while taking GLPs. GLPs cause muscle loss like fasting causses muscle loss.

>>77478853
Sigh I'll take your bait
>outdated shit compounds
Well, I'm only leaving breadcrumbs. There are better versions of DNP now.
>rapid visceral fat reduction
So does DNP
>decrease in whole body inflammation
...just like in a deficit
>cartilage regrowth (previously thought to be impossible)
Nonsense
>reduction in alcohol consumption
Right, this is the issue. It decreases calories in. If you want to fast just fast.
>>77479649
Yes, and DNP doesn't cause muscle loss at all while it causes fat loss. No working out required, just sit and let yourself sweat a bit.

>>77449847
I'm getting some tirz for my aunt. She tried it for 1month last year n lost about 3kg, but got a case of loose stool.

Any way to combat this?

>>77478882
You have several options.
>Try to go 2-3 weeks without a single injection, and then resume it by at least half of your dose
>Temporarily change to Sema (Wegovy) and see if that makes a difference
>Look into the gray market and give Cagrilintide a go

>>77479813
Imodium and Pepto might help. Electrolytes too possibly.

>>77479591
It's personal preference at the end of the day, but overall:
>Tirz is more readily available and can be legally obtained if you don't use the gray market
>Tirz has significantly intense proven results across the board
>Tirz is a dual agonist
>Reta is still experimental but is currently the world's strongest weight loss injection
>It is currently only obtainable via the gray market or closed testing groups via Eli Lily
>Reta is a triple agonist
Some people have less food noise reduction on Reta compared to Tirz, some people have more intense side effects on Tirz, etc etc etc. Again, it's all personal preference.

>>77455667
There's research going on up to 20mg

>>77450950
Every amateur and professional bodybuilder in the world?

>>77479860
thanks for the detailed response. I've been getting on fine with reta so far, 20kg down.

>>77479968
Nice work. I switched from Sema to Reta after 5 months on Sema, and I haven't looked back for the last 7 months.
20kg down on Sema, but it got way too expensive in Australia and that's when I found the gray market, and after doing Reta (on 5mg at the moment), I lost another 23kg. One year for 43kg is pretty good.
I'm aiming for 50kg total, which will keep me at a flat 80kg, even with the muscle/gym I'm doing at the moment.

>>77449847
Just started Tirz at like 1 mg dose

Dont really feel any hunger pains or cravings so maybe that was more than enough for a starting injection.

>>77451699
Yeah, I had pretty quick results from Reta, but the side effects really made me not want to keep going.

Tirz so far has been a lot smoother and more manageable.

if im on max dose of tirz right now and i get reta from STG can i just start with the max dose? or should i titrate up over 2 months?

>>77480041
Always start at the base dose and titrate up over time. Going all out, especially combined with the max Tirz dose can be very dangerous.

>>77480041
Personally I'd try to go clean for a month or 2 to get some sensitization back, but I'm a retard.
In any case, start from the lowest dose, reta is a completely different compound that you may respond completely differently to. You will fuck yourself up with the glucagon agonism no matter what if you go too high too fast.

>>77460710
Time to go gray market. Insurance covered Mounjaro and gray tirz are actually very comparable in price these days.

>>77480076
when i switched from wegovy to tirz my doc started me on half dose. so one month half then second month at maintenance. i was maybe planning on getting off tirz fully then rolling into reta but thanks for your reply

>>77449847
>There is no such thing as GLP-3. It is a common ignorant and uninformed term spread by social media influencers
Damn fucking right, and anyone who unironically uses this to describe Reta to their friends should kill themselves.
The same goes for GLP-2. It does exist but it's completely and utterly unrelated to anything weight loss; it's for a separate medical issue (Crohn's Disease).
In the Stairwaytogray Telegram, there's some fag who listened to a podcast (retard) which claimed there's an upcoming "GLP-4 and GLP-5". Holy fucking retards, I hate you gullible dickheads so much.

>>77479993
good shit mate, how are you finding lifting?

>>77480184
Not too bad, it was a struggle at first but I'm maintaining reps right now, not increasing my weights and reps for a while yet. This is the lightest I've been in a decade so I'm savouring this for a while.

>>77479704
> There are better versions of DNP now.
??

Don't engage the DNPtranny

Any of you tried psyllium husk while on mounjaro/tirz? I don't want to take actual laxatives, I had good results on psyllium husk in the past before I used glp-1. Wondering what it's like when on a glp-1. I barely go to the toilet at all, drink a lot of water and eats lots of fruit and veggies.

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https://www.bacteriostaticwaters.com/?country=US

ledditors are saying their shit tested at only 0.11% instead of 0.9%. Been using for 2 months and no issues. Should I spend 5x more for real pharma grade shit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PeptideSelect/comments/1p1u5mh/amazon_bac_water/

>>77480583
I take 5 700mg capsules a day and have no issues shitting

>>77480746
Yes.
Only use Hospira BAC, never anything else.

>>77480794
AU Hospira BAC water:
https://aussiebacwater.com.au/product/bacteriostatic-water-for-injection-2x-30ml-hospira/
US Hospira BAC water:
https://bacteriostaticwatersupplies.com/
Some AU and US stores have 10ml bottles, grab those instead of 30ml due to shelf life after you puncture the seal.

EU Hospira BAC water is hard to find, so if you find somewhere selling some, hammer it hard. The alternative to that is Genetek. Be advised that it is made in india, so be warned there. Ultimately it's up to you

>>77479993
firstly massive grats on the weight loss that is huge. whats your bf%?
wow 5mg. I'm doing 2mg which is alright, but 5mg would mean I'd blast through £150 every 4 weeks, which would be doable if I wasn't being rawdogged by my divorce.

>>77480901
Cheers mate.
I'll admit I don't know my own body fat percentage. I've never been a huge gym-goer or anything like that. I do plan on getting measured soon though.

>spend 300 dollars a month on tirz
>expect this to hurt my bank account
>3 months later don't even notice, if anything I have more than I thought I would
>turns out tirz was saving me money since I no longer eat fast food 5 days a week.

tirz truly is king.

is it hard to inject?

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Whats the cheapest way to get these without insurance?

>>77481195
find someone at the gym who has reta and rob them

>>77481181
not at all they had to retardproof it so the average american can do it

>>77481195
Read the OP.

what about MOTS-C?

>>77481195
>>77481256
Go to your local gym and talk to the leanest guy there

>>77481322
Not a GLP.

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I'm on 2.5 mg Tirz and tonight will be my third dose, I started supplementing creatine (15g/dag) last week since I read that it benefits memory and processing and noticed that I haven't really lost any weight this week. It's most likely water weight right?
I consume around 2000~2500 kcal per day, a lot of that is protein (60%-70%)
Protein shake in the morning with the creatine and milk (500ml milk, 15g creatine and 30g of protein powder myprotein).
Weight is currently 158 kg, and I started at around 160 kg.

>>77481398
sucking the creatine out of your gyno titties

>>77481195
see
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>>77480583
I started taking psyllium recently, just before I started taking tirz, actually (been on tirz for a week today, 2.5mg, psyllium for a little over a week). My decision to take psyllium had nothing to do with weight loss, I've just always had difficulty getting enough fiber, but I was worried how those two would interact. Overall, I feel like it takes longer for me to have a bowel movement now, but their quality is so much better now, I really wish I had found out about psyllium before. Highly recommend.

>>77481073
My exact reasoning for deciding to spend money on the stuff. I'd be saving money overall.

tirz arrives tomorrow. can't wait to never feel hungry again

>>77481073
Shit adds up. Been eating nothing but Deenz, Nina plain chips with cottage cheese and Tuna, did the math and I'm up a hundred even after buying the drugs.

>3kg gained in a week from presumably water weight
>While still clean dieting and doing cardio every night
Goddammit. At least Reta is burning the fat still.

>>77480802
why does nobody do 3ml bac vials why the FUCK do I have to puncture a 10ml vial for 1-3mls of water

>>77481398
Yes creatine loading causes you to retain water

>>77481398
measure your waist in addition to weight since it's the actual measure of fat loss you should be caring about

>>77482327
I'm in a similar situation, but my Reta is back to 2.5 and my Tirz is at 5. I'm going to go up to 5mg Reta on Sunday and reduce Tirz to 2.5.

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How many extra calories do you burn a day on reta? Does higher dose = more cals burned?

>>77482547
ok