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>Who is /fat/ for?
For broccoli broilers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq
https://f-droid.org/packages/fr.shiningcat.simplehiit/

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I ended a three day fast with a mcdonalds meal yesterday, and I got the liquid shits right afterwards. Luckily I was alone on the toilets afterwards, but that was some brutal shitting.
Man I honestly think the worst part about rolling fasts with keto meals in between is the liquid shits. Which is kind of unavoidable I guess when you don't get any fiber.
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>>77456333
If you stay on keto your body will adapt and your shits go back to being solid eventually, even with fasting
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I've revised my schedule to be more of a "mirror", with Sun-Weds having the same pace as Wed-Sat

Wanted to ask, should I make Wed a full on rest day? I basically do cardio every day otherwise. Treadmill (3-3.5mph incline of 7-10%) on lift days, and bike HITT on the non lift days 3x/week.

Again, I am the guy on the chonky side, 40% bf 6'2" LBM of 176lbs. Only recently started the PSMF diet.
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>>77456340
I should clarify the wake up times on weight lifting day, I always liked early morning > afternoon. And typically be tired after work. Its a retail job, so on foot alot, and easily getting 10k steps in from that alone.

Also big plus, After revising my routine; I can do the Anytime fitness near my job with that routine, over the old one. While its a good gym, that one compared to the one near hone, doesnt have all the equipment, like hip abductors and others.

Heres the Mentzer Style routine I plan to do, on September. Shall make it a 3x full bod routine. ABA
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>>77456361
And here is the revised vers of the old routine. More Yates style. Originally was 2 warmups 7 reps, and 1 working set of 8, and final working set of 16 reps; same weight. Changed it up to the opposite

High reps as the warmup, and 8-10 or 6-8 for the two working sets.
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>>77456369
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>>77456337
fasting is pretty much just an extreme form of keto if you think about it
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>>77456327
Keep it up bro, 34 more hours for me to finish mine
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>>77456420
I’m 30 hours into my next rolling 72 hour fast. I’ve pretty much achieved my short term goal now getting below bmi 30, so I’m going to plan out how to lose weight afterwards. Probably going keto, but it’s kinf of hard to combone with work lunch, so maybe just regular cico.
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21 days until godskinectomy
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>>77456482
Grim.
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>>77456482
Based. How much will you pay?
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>>77456482
top surgery for cis men
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>>77456482
>This will make women like me
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>>77456482
I would legit kms if I ever got fat enough that I needed skin surgery. Thank God I didn't.
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>>77454299
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>>77456567
What bmi is the cut-off point?
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>>77456572
Idk, but I'd imagine 300+ lbs would be the point of no return.
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>>77456572
Varies, biggest factors are your particular skin elasticity, largely dictated by genetics, age, and how long you were fat.

But usually if you stay out of Class III and don't keep the weight on for more than a year you should be fine.
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had a day off today, my first in 6 months.
3 beers in and im already feeling lightheaded
what have i done
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>>77456582
What if I had the weight for 8 years but was at mostly very low in the first obesity class
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>>77456504
15k for the actual surgery, another few grand for flights/hotels in eastern europe and a home nurse. I’m in nyc so it would have been like $50k to get it done here.
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>>77456590
might have a little, 8 years is awhile.
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>>77456550
True
>>77456564
Idgaf about that, it gets in the way of everything and hurts when I run
>>77456567
…why? It’s just a few scars.
>>77456572
I don’t think it’s really related to absolute numbers. If you don’t have overhang now you probably won’t have it.
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>>77456597
>15k for scars
lmao
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>>77456619
Scars are cool actually
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>>77456482
Good shit man
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>>77456597
Damn, that was more than I expected, but surely it'll be worth it. Which clinic?
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>>77456692
Nordesthetics. It’s because I’m getting a lot done — chest, arms, 360 fdl.
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>>77456597
I'd have to request they specifically don't scar the underside of my mantits.
I don't wanna look like a FTM tranny.
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>>77456597
>ugly scars AND tattoos
Zamn...
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>>77456643
>scars earned in glorious battle with terrible monsters
vs
>scars earned from obesity
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>>77456597
>It's that expensive
Jesus christ.
Guess I'm rawdogging it and doing strength training for years after.
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>>77456643
>>77456919
The scars would transform from cringe to kind of cool if he just gained 20lbs of muscle and stayed lean.
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i'm officially down just over 40 lbs today !
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>>77456597
they did a really good job of moving his chest up into his chest piece and making it look intentional from the beginning
>>77456609
>>77456731
wish you the best of luck anon and smooth recovery! hope everything goes well for u
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I drank two glasses of milk with chocolate powder today and some crackers, I also ate an instant ramen noodle because I was craving it so bad, I’m 5’6 140lbs, I might give up on trying to stay below 15% bf
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had tendies and fries and pepsi
gained 8lbs today
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>>77457001
This is disgusting
>>77456989
This is based
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i ended yesterday at 1500 calories and started today with 1000 calories
my weight went down despite the slop yesterday
wagmi
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>>77456989
I had 3 slices of bread cuz I haven't eaten carbs in 3 days and lost discipline
2 slices after I had a 1lb ribeye for breakfast then the last one just now when I had an open faced chicken salad sandwich
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>>77456482
>>77456597
could have waited until you thinned more but great progress
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>>77456583
just get back on the grind
>>77456984
nice
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>>77457016
No-carb never worked for me, I did psmf once and lost 10kg, I went from 160lbs to 130, was in the best shape of my life but eventually I started eating normally again and regained it, I’ve been been obese but I might have a mental illness to always be wanting to chase that 10% bf look, because I looked like a model having hollow cheeks and jawline, now I have a puffy bloated face
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>>77457016
>2 slices after I had a 1lb ribeye for breakfast then the last one just now when I had an open faced chicken salad sandwich
I dont think the bread is your problem retarded ketolard
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>>77456989
>I might give up on trying to stay below 15% bf
why? it's ok to treat yourself from time to time as long as you're generally disciplined.
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>>77456989
>I’m 5’6 140lbs, I might give up on trying to stay below 15% bf
you're giving me hope if i can reach that percent at only that weight, manletbro. i thought i needed to be 130.
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>get home from exhausting day at work
>hungry
>need to work out
>eat a small amount of greek yogurt and some fruit to get energy for lifting
>hunger is completely gone
>work out
>still not hungry

Man what a powerful combo, I can feel I don't have enough food in my stomach, but the hunger signal is completely absent. It's more like I need something to settle the acid in my stomach now. Going to force dinner down my throat.
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>>77457046
I’m mostly disciplined and have been lifting for 4 years now but I’m always scared of getting a treat and opening the demon portal that never closes until I’m up 5kg on the scale

>>77457052
Usually 140lbs is 15% for me, I can see my abs and my face starts leaning, after that the true war begins though, I’ve only been 10% once and I was dickskin peeled at a whopping 115-120lbs, it wasn’t sustainable for more than a few weeks
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>>77457069
>It's more like I need something to settle the acid in my stomach now
Probably just low level stomach acid. If you actually want to feel full after work try eating beans for lunch.
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It’s a fasting day
Lord give me strength
btw WAGMI
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I didn't make it...
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>>77457169
>49minutes
lmao
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>>77457169
600 calories per day is basically fasting, anon.
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>>77456302
reminder to test your Vitamin D before and after supplementation because it helps a ton with cosntant hunger, fatties have low Vitamin D by default, and the recommended daily dose is bullshit.
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>my fat pinches are slowly but surely getting smaller
wagmi
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>my legs are getting thicker and thicker but weight stays constant
wagmi
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>decided to try a "And now for something completely different" route by beginning Pilates group classes
Honestly fun and helping fix my shitty posture after I lost weight (I lean forward far too much)
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>>77457238
> Pilates group class
I couldn't stand all the middle aged women brapping.
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Any anons knowledgeable enough to let me know if at home workouts, thinking of stationary bike + calisthenics + some dumbbell exercises but only got one for now, is enough and can give the body some firmness in mostly shoulder/chest/core/arms after losing ton of weight and being a flabby piece of tub with zero muscle? I mean absolutely ZERO muscles anywhere, I haven't worked out or even stretched in 15 years.
I don't care about getting ripped, I just want some firmness and not be a flabby piece of shit.
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Fatty Contest
oldskinnyfatbastard
157 lbs
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2nd week of maintenance comes to an end.
It’s a battle man. But I’m prevailing.
I swing around 2 kilos a day, which is normal according to AI
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>>77457262
join a gym and do a proper workout program under a barbell with progressive overload. Youre wasting your time at home with this fluff bullshit.

>I don't care about getting ripped, I just want some firmness and not be a flabby piece of shit.
you sound like those women who say "urmmm i dont want to do weights because i dont want to get too ripped". You arent going to get ripped by accident anon. Get to the gym and do your squats faggot.
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>>77456731
I've been looking through some of the results from them, some really amazing stuff. Neat to think about in the long term possibly going here.
Make sure and keep us updated with your experience with them.
Will you be doing anything fun while in the country or will you mostly be in surgery/recovery only there?
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>>77457262
sure, you can get a decent workout that way. it’s going to be somewhat of a stopgap method, but it can get you going. people get jacked in prison with calisthenics alone. although having adjustable dumbbells help a lot
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decided to start OMAD to speed up the fat loss. Will update this in a few months time.
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Walked on the treadmill at gym today for 30mins. 4.5kmph at 5% incline. What is the /fat/ approved incline for fatloss?
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>>77457409
based ketochad
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A little bit into being keto and I don't get nearly as hungry as I used to. In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony CICO math, but because I am purely fueled by my copious fat stores.
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>>77457427
based ketochad
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>>77457427
Keto worked well for me for about a year personally. Definitely important to learn to eat normally (portions, not gorging yourself etc.) at some point.
If you need a snack some grilled chicken is always a good worry free option :)
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>>77457427
try fasting, it’s pretty much the extreme version of keo. rolling 48-72 hours fasts with keto meals in between is the old cheat code for weight loss before glp1
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Losing fat and making gains on very low fat high soup diet. 0 hunger, tons of energy. Just peas, spaghet, vegetables, lean meat.
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Today I'm going to put paprika on my chicken breasts to try and break my monotony
What am I supposed to do: massage the chicken with it before grilling?
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>>77457427
Keto isn't bad at all, it's just that our resident retard thinks you can eat 5kg of meat and not gain weight
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The diet that works for me is eating ~600 grams at lunch and a cup of cereal with milk at night.
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80.6 kg this morning.
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>>77457465
I don't think he really believes it. He constantly misquotes and cherry picks even from the stuff he spams constantly.
I'm convinced it's just schizophrenia fueled shitposting.
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>>77457453
If you want to season your chicken breasts I'd pat them dry, place them in the pan then sprinkle some salt, pepper, and paprika. Cook, then flip and season the other side and cook.

Or if you're baking them or something you could rub all the seasonings into them by hand, yes.
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>>77456984
Good shit dawg
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I’ve got back into rolling fasts. Did a 72, then a 48 and now I’m trying to settle into 72s for at least a month. Yesterday and the day before that were hell due to keto adaption but I have the feeling I’m out of the valley. Refeeds were keto but a lot of garbage, will focus on clean refeeds with steak and broccoli to train myself to eat more healthy when I eventually stop fasting.

>>77456984
Congratulations
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An eye for an eye, and the world goes one-eyed.
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>>77457262
You should add in rucking as your cardio. It helps build a lot of core and leg muscles.
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>>77457465
I would say Keto is pretty mandatory if you're any sort of diabetic or if anyone in your family is.
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DESU I think good portion sizes are the true key to weight loss.
We actually taste and have pleasure in our food within the first few bites, after that it becomes just an animalistic instinct to finish the meal.
If you make yourself three smaller dishes rather than a big one for your meal, psychologically you'll feel very satisfied.
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>eat six double bacon cheeseburgers a day, but still lose weight because I put them on keto rolls
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If I sit on my fat ass all day but walk 10k steps in the evening am I sedentary or lightly active ? I'll keep calculating my TDEE with sedentary in any case but I'm just curious.
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>>77457576
If you don't do 30 minutes of cardio every day or not do a blue collar job you are not lightly active.
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>was sick last week so took the whole week off from the gym
>could've went in last Friday but just decided to be a lazy faggot
>went every day this week, including today
>literally was trying to talk myself out of going and just staying home and sleeping
I still got my fat ass up and went but how do y'all stay motivated? I was hype as fuck the first 2 months, but now 3.5 months in and fuck me it's such a drag to get up and get in the gym. I have no problem once I'm there and I genuinely like the feeling I get after a workout but it's like I have zero drive to wake up and go now. Shit sucks.
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Holy shit guys I think I always overestimated the amount of olive oil I use. I normally measure it by "tablespoons", which the app tells me converts to 13g. Yesterday I actually bothered to weight 2 tablespoons for a recipe (which is more than I usually use) and it turned out to be barely 19g. What kinda spoons do amerilards use lmao
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>>77457613
19 is a bigger number than 13.
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>>77457617
>2 tablespoons
>turned out to be barely 19g
do i have to write like this for you retards to pick up what I'm saying or will you bother to learn how to read
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is eating at maint for a week or two an actual thing for people who've been trying to eat at a defecit for a while but having long stalls on the scale, or is it a cope?

how does one even know if their cortisol is out of whack?
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>>77456327
I’m also doing a 3 day fast
WAGMI
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I've been sinning. I've strayed the last couple of days, I've just been eating too much because I don't have much to do. How do I get back my motivation
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Theres no point in losing weight if I'm gonna have gyno and loose skin anyway
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>>77457700
the point is higher quality of life and living past your 40s
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>>77457700
gyno surgery is like 2k in china bro. you can do it with local anesthesia so you don't have to worry about them stealing your kidneys.
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>>77457700
wrong, you look bad if both case but you are healthier when you aren't fat
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>i tweaked by back on sunday
>still havent recovered
>sittiing down for too long hurts
>lying down for too long hurts
>walking hurts
>bending down hurts
fuuuuuck im missing a whole week of gym so far, FUCK THIS SHIT WHY
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>>77457495
72s suck. It legit takes two days for you to hit a new low. So you only actually see a lower number on the last day of the fast. At least for me. Shit sucks. It's why I do 5-7 day fasts because you have more days to see the scale drop, plus you can eat more during the refeed, can actually feast

Anyway sorry wagmi good luck man
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Ever since(months ago) I started low carbing and intermittent fasting I don't feel hunger but I'm somewhat puzzled by the fact that I'm on the edge, like little issue with a computer and I'm ready to explode.
I'm back to normal dimensions however, it only takes about 4ish months if you have sports background.
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>7 kg to go
>my motivation to lift is bad
>i have been eating like a FUCKING FAT PIG the past 3.5 weeks
jesus christ man
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>>77457825
Just do interval training 2 times a week. Deadlift for 12 minutes with a weight you can do for 8. Rest 30 seconds, drop weight immediately when you can't lift more. You'll throw up but it'll make you burn everything in your body.
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>>77457831
is that going to motivate me though?
my lifts have gotten so bad and the only way to get that up again is eat more
but i have to and want to get rid of those last kilos
i discipline myself by showing up but most times i cant do all 5 sets or have to lower the weight :(
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>>77457837
There's no motivation, you either do it or not. I know this, this is why I'm trying to whip you. Eventually things will change and you'll get angry enough to do something about it. Not today but some day.
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>>77457854
fair
gonna chugg my pre workout and drag my ass into the game
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Ate 1700+ calories yesterday, burned 200+ from running for 30mins, but today is my weigh-in. Fuark...
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Anyone doing 8 weeks cut calories, 2 weeks maintenance, repeat?
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>>77457639
Just quit carbs. Carbs lower metabolism by -50kcal/day for every 10% of your diet that is carbs. By quitting entirely you will get a 250kcal/day or greater boost in metabolism.
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>>77457867
>Just quit giving your Body Energy
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>>77457855
It's like being an alcoholic. Every day is an opportunity to drink, some days you'll drink and that's fine, it's not the end of the world. Move on and compartmentalize.
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>>77457880
>but doctor we have to eat carb
>our bodies need more energy
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>>77457811
Thanks man, I feel your sentiments. Daily weighing is rough psychologically for me as well. I haven’t done anything longer than 72 though, how do you handle refeeds on these longer fasts?
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>>77457894
NTA but when I did a 9 day fast I broke it with bone broth and then an hour later I ate creme fraiche mixed with salmon. No problems at all.
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Fastards are shitting the general up
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>>77457894
NTA as well but for me I break my 7 day fasts with tomatoes. Cutting them up and adding salt, taste like fucking heaven.
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fatty contest
fatretard
177.5
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>>77457643
Take off your shirt and look yourself in the mirror.
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>>77457613
a measuring tablespoon is different from a dining tablespoon
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>>77457639
i tried eating at maintenance and it didn't work. i just had to eat even lower and suffer.
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>>77457939
Too many carbs.
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>>77457943
Tomorrow I will defeat you fat retard.
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>>77457979
Shut the fuck up ketoschizo.
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>>77457980
good luck!
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>>77457894
Yeah daily weighing is a bitch honestly, but when you hit that new low it's like a shot of heroin or something.

Honestly the longest I've done is 5 days. I'm almost 100 hours into my current 7 day fast though. But with my 5 day fast I just ate normally after it. I don't think you need to worry about any issues eating normally unless you're fasting for like 10+ days or something. But don't quote me on that man. Maybe experiment, see how your body reacts, obvs don't eat an entire pan of lasagna after a longer fast, but yeah
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The more weight I lose the more I resent fat people. I get done with a workout session, deep into ketosis, and I see fatties, living carefree lives, waddling around content to flaunt their obesity in public and I silently seethe. I hate them, I hate what I used to be. I hate the part of myself that allowed me to blindly live like that for so long.

How do I contain this?
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>>77458001
Read the book of Job
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>look into keto because of the shills
>told I can't eat it vegetables because they'll make you fat
Oh it's a scam
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>>77458010
You can eat unlimited non starchy vegetables if you want.
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Why can't sweets, chocolate and crisps just have no calories
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>>77458020
>you have to heavily limit basic vegetables like onions, carrots, green beans, peas, beans, broccoli and squash
>those are definitely what's making you fat
Mental illness
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>>77458035
Carbs are so extremely fattening that low carb with unlimited calories works better than restricting calories with carbs.
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>>77458020
>>77458039
Is this a bot?
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Fatty Contest
FuckSingleMoms
270.3
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>>77458043
No.
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Genuinely how do you recover from this mentally?
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IDK man, I think I might just fap to it
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>>77458055
She's still fat.
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>prep and freeze some chicken
>made a large portion of soup from collected liquids and some cooked chicken
>ate it as yesterday's omad
>still very full
I have been using mounjaro for three weeks now and it didn't really feel that effective until yesterday.
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>>77458068
No. You will always be fat, though.
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>>77458043
he is our local schizo, apparently spamming these threads since dawn of /fat/
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THE SLOPPA IS CALLING ME
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My "main" meals today were especially low calories so I actually ate a significant quantity of sweet stuff.
Don't do it guys, I am now shitting diarrea
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WE MARCH.
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>>77458082
lmao
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>>77458082
post body
I'm genuinely curious what you looked like before this fast started and now.
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>>77458010
you can eat vegetables that don’t break the ketosis, like cauliflower, broccolli, that kind of thing. You’d have to eat like two kg og vegetables to break ketosis, about 50 g of carbs.
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>>77458024
You can actually make your own sweets and cookies though that are lower calorie at least. The sugar replacers have gotten much better than they were 3-4 years ago. Allulose especially is a ridiculous, I can't believe this is real tier.
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>>77458087
No chance I'm posting body, Im still over 300lbs

>>77458083
You defo need to kys
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>>77457900
there’s not enough doing fasting to warrant an own /fast/ thread anymore
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>>77457495
if you refeed non-keto meals the keto flu on rolling fasts aren’t that awful, it’s mainly when your glycogen storage is empty and you start up ketosis you feel awful, but you’ll be a bit more tired than usual
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>>77458096
>Im still over 300lbs
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>>77458103
>there are fat people in /fat/
wow, shocking
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>>77458103
Keep laughing while the weight falls off buddy
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>>77458010
Yes you can, just make a salad and eat tons of broccoli. I eat often greek style salad with iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, red onion, olive oil, lemon juice, feta cheese. With 0.9 lbs of chicken with cayanne pepper or other stuff like spic spice mix. It's literally a mountain of food.
I only eat two times a day though. Once you learn how to make a tasty salad for (your) taste, you'll begin to crave it eventually if you just keep eating every day. No more pizza shit or crisps.
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>>77458105
>Eat one meal
>Back to 329lbs
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>>77458108
To add: even if you add lemon juice and couple of tomatoes and spice mix, it's literally impossible to get more than 20 grams of carbs from this.
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how do cut so i can get a twink boywife
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>>77458109
Lmao horrendous ciconigger cope. Usually gain 1lb after my refeeds
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Are the anti-fasting retards retarded or genuinely shilling against the most natural weight loss?
If you're so jealous, just stop fucking eating.
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>>77458108
>iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, red onion
high chances you are over the carb limit
>>77458111
a medium onion is >10g
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>>77458113
>Usually gain 1lb after my refeeds
>Says the 317lbs whale
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>>77458118
Ok bud. Just know that in a year I'll be sub 200
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>>77458120
post fatty contest entry, if you don't I will ridicule you
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>>77458108
I feel like anyone who says they like salad is a liar or really delusional and good a self deception. Eating some air fried broccoli, yeah, that shit is good, but eating that shit raw and mixed in with other raw veggies, fuck that noise.
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>>77456408
and keto's just an autistic form of CICO
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>>77458124
My daily meals are salad + some kind of protein and salad is the more delicious part of it.

You are probably not adding enough salt and lemon. Balsamic does wonders too
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>>77458124
People who like salad tend to like loads of dressing, croutons and other shit on their salad. I doubt most people would actually eat a salad that is just veggies.
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>>77458114
I’d bet they’re glp-1 pajeet shills. You can pay a pajeet to shill anything for you these days. They get more paid for that than a minimum wage job in India.
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>>77458128
I would actually avoid Balsamic simply because of the sugar content.
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>>77458127
you change your metabolism to mainly use energy from ketones, which main purpose is to reduce hunger and increase function. it’s not exactly complicated.
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>>77458133
yeah, I am not very happy about it either but it makes salads taste really good. It is the only real sugary thing I eat really.

You don't really need much for a salad
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>>77458116
Yeah but that's about it. No one says you need 0 carbs... There's no need to be religious about this either.
I time all of my carb intake to that one meal. For breakfast I might take a protein drink (which has trace carbs) or bacon and eggs with coffee.
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>>77458129
This is why you are fat in the first place. you have unhealthy relationship with what you are calling 'food'.
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>>77458148
>Yeah but that's about it
Well, you also mentioned tomatoes, cucumber, lettuce, and lemon juice twice a day. That will very likely put you over even the upper end of the keto carb range.

Your
>literally impossible to get more than 20 grams
>yes you can... mountain of food...
claims are plain false. A reasonably sized salad with ingredients you posted will likely go over 20gr of carbs
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Couldn't go run today because of the diarrhea.
Tomorrow I shall
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>12 hours before I end my 7 day fast
>open my window
>some cunt is barbecuing the most delicious smelling food outside
Fucking end me
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>get on hrt
>weight loss stagnates
Fuck
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>>77456302
Hi fatbros. Just visiting but I'm curious, what is the significance of the ducks and nuns is the OP's image?
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>>77458175
Make a noise complaint and tell them you saw drugs
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>>77458183
They are cute.
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Idk if it’s the 2lb of cabbage I ate over the last 3 days or my new squatty potty but I let out some weight today I tell ya
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>>77458175
>12 hours before I end my 7 day fast

Mirin
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>>77458185
Can't make noise complaints until 10pm plus I have no idea who it is and the cops wouldn't give a shit anyway. Shit just makes me hungry.
>>77458190
Ty bro, one more week until next Saturday and I'll be free from the 7 day fasting hell.
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>>77458001
maintain your weight loss for 4 years before allowing yourself to resent them
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>>77458056
lmao
should've stayed down
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>started at the begging of 2024
>reached my goal late 2025
>decided that i need to lose 5 more kg because i still looked chubby
>only lost 2 additional kg so far
it feels like to lose the remaining 3 kg i need to put more effort than i did past 2.8 years
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>>77458179
What the fuck are you doing getting on HRT before losing all your weight you want to be an ugly hon? If I ever decide to do it is after losing all the weight.
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>eating a minimum of 600 cal under TDEE
>scale jumps up and down the same 2 pounds throughout the week
The scale is my enemy
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>>77458112
maximize protein and minimize starchy carbs
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>>77458179
Imagine being fat and a tranny on top of it fucking lmao what an embarrassment of a life you should kill yourself
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>>77458188
>my new squatty potty
qrd?
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>>77458204
correct
the less fat you have, the harder it is to lose fat.
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>>77458183
Ducks represent out fatty brains, they just want to be eat and be fat.
The nuns represent our discipline and self control.
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>>77458179
Wtf are you doing anon you should always lose weight (ideally cut to skelly) before going on hrt so you can gain it back in the right places
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>>77457427
Keto is great if you have substantial weight to loose. Not the best idea below 20% body fat tho.
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>>77458179
>>77458234
Retard who destroyed his body with food to satisfy his gluttony proceeds to destroy his body with drugs to satisfy his degenerate sexual fetishes
Learned nothing award
I'm sure your bones will enjoy trying to support your massive fat ass when you both never lose weight and inevitably develop osteoporosis from fucking around with your hormones
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>>77458246
isn't it the other way around?
you can easily lose weight if you're massive in any way but the less fat you have, the harder it is and the more extreme methods you have to use. right?
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any ninja anons mind posting their favorite recipes
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>>77458252
Keto mostly works if you have massive water weight, past that it only as good as the calories you'll save by getting satiated faster by protein and fat.
When you'll get so thin, the advantages will be so unsubstantial the strategies to lose more weight mostly just involve pumping your muscles to squeeze a couple calories more of TDEE
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>>77458225
Those saars got one thing right and it’s shittin, they do it so much they even do it in the streets and I can’t blame em if it feels that good every time
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Fatty Contest
ngmitbqh
123.1kg

Insane week and bretty happy so far
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>>77458258
so you got the little footrest?
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Think I'll give up on nutella
I can have it every day and stay within my cals pretty easy, but I think it's not good for my bowel to eat it frequently even if within cals and macros
I think I'll cut it down to once a week and sub it for cheese or something the rest of the days.
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>>77458289
>Eating slopella at all
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>>77458170
instead of a run you had the runs
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>>77458292
Nutella and Peanut Butter are a good filler when you planned the rest of the day, filled all your macros and have like 200 cals or so you could put into a snack
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>>77458303
lmao no
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>>77458289
>>77458292
nutella is mostly sugar but peanut butter is good i'll give you that
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>>77458289
>>77458303
nutella is one of the worst things you can put in your body it's almost entirely palm oil and sugar.
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>>77455183
hey you bitch! hey you bitch!

while it's true i'm a hamplanet, i am tracking my calories, you bloody benchod. I am eating the 100 calorie packs basterd. You are probably a dhalit or something, so you don't know any better. bloody bitch basterd
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>>77458112
>lose weight as fast as possible
>dig hole outside gay club
>lay in hole belly up, spread out excess skin around rim of hole
>bait trap by tucking cocaine and poppers into belly button
>capture twink by shooting excess skin up and around when he steps in
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Oats or some type of healthy fibrous cereal in the morning
1/4 plate Lean meat, 1/4 plate rice/potatoes, and 1/2 plate of veggies for dinner
Lift 4x per week
This is my diet plan, does anyone have suggestions? I'm sick of being fat
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>>77457013
>tfw still full from the 1000 calories i ate 20 hours ago
wagmi
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>>77458391
test your Vitamin D levels because i've been suffering for months trying to stick to the diet to no avail until a month into high doses of Vitamin D. i am now full at 1500 calories and have been keeping it this way for over a month.
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>>77458105
You have enough excess fat to support the daily caloric needs of 2 people.

~150 extra lb of fat
1lb of fat can donate 30 - 35 calories a day
Thats ~4650 calories from fat a day

No shit it's easy to fast with that amount of fat on you. Anybody over 80lbs overweight should just straight up fast as hard as possible because you can do weight loss on easy mode.
Keep up the good work but also keep in mind that it's going to get orders of magnitude harder as you get thinner, the real weight loss begins when you're only 80lbs overweight.
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>>77458264
Yeah my hips are pretty tight so on top of mobility work and strengthening I think it’ll help me get a nice primal/asian/russian/h. neanderthalensis/third world/natural squat. I wanna smoke cigs chillin on my heels w da boyz and my rifle
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Fatty Contest
FatCertified
113.7kg
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Lads I weigh less than a bitch
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Been doing the actual Mike Mentzer way, and shit was the most intense for the dips and leg extensions. 4 second push/pull, and 4 second negatives go crazy.

Idk if this is the best place to discuss workouts, but I’m down to share, incase others have knowledge. Already posted both routines here >>77456355


I am tempted to do this full body 4x like the ULUL thats Fri-Mon
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>>77458549
And ofc, diets been on point. Even tho it is a cheat day today and tomorrow. I do gotta invest in sugar free/low cal sauces tho. The baby ray cups at stop & shop are like 100 cal for 5oz
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>>77456571
Fatty Contest
The O
178.5
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Fatty Contest
WrapEnjoyer
310lbs

Yeah, it is what it is.
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>>77458591
Don't feel too bad, statistically speaking 90% of fatties end up like this within 5 years of losing it. Losing it is the easy part, keeping it off is the part most will fail at.
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>>77458603
Das rite
I did two weeks of maintenance and it is more taxing than losing weight
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>>77458591
time to quit wraps and enjoy meat as it is
>>77458614
have you tested your Vitamin D levels?
i went out woth friends the other day and i could only eat 4 of the 12 tendies i ordered.
it is a miracle i tell ya
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FattyContest
BostonBeachedWhale
290.8lbs

Getting closer, lads. Almost out of the Class 3 Fatty range.
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>>77458591
Kek why are you pretending to be me?

How do you even remember my fatty contest name?

t. WrapEnjoyer, still enjoying them
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>>77458591
Holy shit, now theres a name I havent seen here for a while. When I was losing weight a few years back you were someone I was always seeing doing really well. I am back up like 35lbs now, and trying to get back into that fat loss mindset. We've done it before, we can do it again, lets fucking go.
t. endless
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>>77458635
kek, ah snap. I fell for a fake wrapenjoyer. Good to see you anyway my guy.
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>>77458635
>>77458591
Prove you're the real wrapenjoyer
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What type of meat, which cut, and how should I prepare it if I want to lose body fat? Something that’s easy to make and not expensive.
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>>77458647
70/30 ground beef. Make it into patties. Patties are more appetizing than loose ground beef.
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>>77458639
I remember you. Could be worse than 35lb up. A few months of strict diet and you should be good. Hope everything else is well.

>>77458645
I always posted my weight saturday/sunday morning euro time. Never on a friday night. Also I always used kilogram because Im euro kek. And I posted my omad as a picture.

Kinda amused that quite a few people remember me. Im also up 30kg from my lowest weight, thats why Im currently lurking.
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>>77458639
>I am back up like 35lbs now
>>77458660
>Im also up 30kg
Shouldn't have done CICO. It always causes weight regain.

The solution is unlimited calorie low-carb.
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>>77457700
Maybe if you live a shit life, but if you have the potential to lead an actual happy/successful life you can always make the money to afford the surgery to get rid of the loose skin.
>>77458056
Would.
>>77458647
>>77458659
This. But you can also make it into loose ground beef too. The grocery I went to didn't have ground turkey so I used ground beef, but I just grilled a bunch of bell peppers, red, green, orange, yellow, etc. Cooked some rice. And then threw in some black beans. Mixed that shit all together and it you have a pretty good, stomach filling meal. 1 cup of rice, 1 cup of beans, 1 cup of ground beef/mixed peppers/onions. You can also top it with a little cheese to spice it up. It's like making your own chipotle bowl but like 3x cheaper.
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>>77458715
Rice is carb.
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>>77458718
Where in his post did he say no carbs?
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>>77458722
He said:
>I want to lose body fat

Carb adds body fat.
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>>77458722
Ignore the schizo.
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>>77458725
I totally forgot every general on this site, regardless of board has schizos now, that is my fault for forgetting where I'm at.
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>>77458723
So does dietary fat you retarded nigger
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>>77458750
Dietary fat is slimming.
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please Lord help me shed all this fat. not weight, fat.
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>>77458756
This is why God gave you the gift of low carb.
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>>77458755
How is dietary fat slimming?
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>>77458764
It's the most satiating macronutrient.
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>>77458771
>Cholecystokinin
>Peptide that specifically promotes fat breakdown
>"Suppresses hunger" but nothing else does
Kek nice try
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>>77458771
How is that better than just not eating?
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>>77458778
Not eating is ketogenic. It works great, too.

Best combo is fasting and low carb.
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>>77458763
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>>77458289
Try cooking with hazelnut flour. Or just eating hazelnuts.
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why is fat so high in calories? everything tasty is fat
>cream sauce with garlic, mushrooms and herbs
>hot honey bacon
>fried chicken
>beans and pork
>greasy tacos
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>>77458855
none of the foods you listed is especially tasty except maybe beans and pork
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>>77458855
the reason they're tasty is because they're fat anon. you're programmed to think fat is yummy
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>>77458855
Because fat is the primary source of calories for living things. Only issue is that we're not meant to have such readily available vast amounts of it.
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Had 350/750 calories burned on my fitness tracker, just walked like 4 miles to burn the rest of it and hit my goal. Hit the gym today too and did a workout but never track the calories on those. Only walks count. I like night walks. Cheeky Skyr bar before bed too :-)

I saw this fantastic charger on a walk the other morning.
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>weight not changing at all for a whole week
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>>77458755
Hi retarded ketolard. Still scientifically illiterate, I see!
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27385608/
>>Subjects lost weight and body fat throughout the study corresponding to an overall negative energy balance of ∼300 kcal/d. Compared with BD, the KD coincided with increased EEchamber (57 ± 13 kcal/d, P = 0.0004) and SEE (89 ± 14 kcal/d, P < 0.0001) and decreased RQ (-0.111 ± 0.003, P < 0.0001). EEDLW increased by 151 ± 63 kcal/d (P = 0.03). Body fat loss slowed during the KD and coincided with increased protein utilization and loss of fat-free mass.
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>eggs
>yoghurt
>600 calories
>full
reminder to test your Vitamin D levels even if you're supplementing it already
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>>77458904
Your gut biome is going to be a toxic waste pool and you're gonna be letting out some nasty BRAAAAPs. Enjoy atherosclerotic scarring in your veins from all that cholesterol and saturated fat.
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>>77458904
I’ve been supplementing vitamin D bc of your posts. Haven’t gotten tested tho. However, today I found myself having to force myself to have my nightly yogurt and skyr bar just to get my macros and collagen in, not because I was hungry. Wild stuff.
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>>77458909
i wanted to have nutella since anon mentioned it but opted out and was surprised to become full with no space for it
i used to have another stomach for desserts
>>77458910
based
>Haven’t gotten tested tho
you really should, anon. Vitamin D toxicity also has the side effect of reduced appetite so you won't know for sure if it's good or bad until you've tested.
the other more severe side effects include msucle cramping/weakness, constipation or vomiting, and kidney stones.
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>>77458179
Trannies are grosser than fat people lol
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Going to sleep good knowing tomorrow is another weigh in after eating 0 calories today. Love seeing the scale go down, it's better than pussy
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>>77458913
I’m only taking 1 pill a day, 2000iu. Plus natural sunlight. You think that’s too much without getting tested?
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>>77458923
honestly both of them are pretty gross, and I'm fat myself
still if someone was going to give me a hug I'd rather it'd be a fatty than a tranny I guess
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>>77458929
i don't think it's too much, no.
i even think it is too little but you can never guess what peoples' condition is without testing.
you might be a freak case with normal Vitamin D and don't need any supplements at all. who know?
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Why are ketolards so provably scientifically wrong about literally everything? Why do they persist in their error?
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>>77456482
>>77456597
All these pics show is that you NEED to build muscle to have a good result after the lose skin surgery, or you just end up looking like a weird skinny fat.
You don't need a lot but still have to get a decent amount or you WILL end up skinny fat
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>>77457700
>living longer and with less complications, aside from looking a lil gross without a shirt on, is worse than looking awful WITH a shirt on and having a ton of complications
You're a troll or retarded
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>>77457894
Weigh yourself once a week, not daily
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>not weighing yourself hourly
ngmi
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>>77458973
I never understood why people say this.
For me daily weighing is the main motivator, seeing the weight go down almost every day, even a little bit, is just a great feeling.
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>>77457453
i don't think you need to massage it, just dump that shit on
BUT fucking tenderize your breasts. get a tenderizing mallet and beat the ever-loving shit out of them before cooking. it makes a HUGE difference. the last time i didn't beat my breasts i really realized how much of a massive difference it makes.
for me it's minced garlic and cayenne pepper in the air fryer, try that, just dump it heavy on both sides. it's fucking delicious
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>not vegan
Ngmi
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I could make a really mean fettuccine alfredo right now and none of you could stop me
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>>77459063
Nonsense eating disorder misinformation is where it is from. This weird claim that following numbers too closely will give you an eating disorder. You'll see it even in discussions about tracking calories, fattie will insist that is disordered eating. The claim you'll obsess about the numbers, stress when they dont go down and purge or something stupid. Its fearmongering and nothing else.
The main reason to not do it more, is weight fluctuates across the day so it makes things inconsistent. Doing it the same time every day and tracking the average and lowest gives me useful data.
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Fatty Contest
PortuFat
83.4kg
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>>77459082
>always beat your meat
Noted, thanks anon
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>>77459082
I got some all purpose seasoning without salt in it. Does the job and I dont need half a dozen different jars of seasonings. Always keep my eyes out for something more interesting when I empty a jar, but just end up buying the same thing again.
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>>77459063
>seeing the weight go down almost every day
It is a good feeling, agree, but it doesnt always go down, and seeing it go up some mornings can be demotivating.
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>>77459164
i recommended 2, neither of which are in your lame premixed concoction
even if you to season with a half a dozen, which you seemed to say that as if it's some big deal despite simply being 6, are you that lazy to spend a few minutes sprinkling those on? it's not some monumental effort
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>>77459114
>>77459166
Just do a rolling average
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Fatty Contest
fuckinghippie
99.5kg
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Fatty Contest
Boobs
121.30kg
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i can pull myself to the pull up bar now from a standing position, but from a hanging position is still too hard
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>>77459189
I do three. Daily weigh in at the same time every morning, rolling 7 day average, predictive weight based on exersize and food entered. The third tells me if i'm being honest in my reporting, if i'm reporting 2000 cal and a gym session and my weight isn't decreasing over time I know i'm lying to myself or the food entry is.
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What's considered "the last and hardest stretch" in terms of lbs to your GW? 10? 15?
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>>77459284
For me its the time after hitting GW because I am still fat and want to see my abs so I need to lose probably another 10 lbs
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>>77459096
I could stop you
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>>77459266
Or your metabolism has been suppressed by doing cico, which will happen for certain if you eat carbs.
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>coworker reccomended these
>43g of carbs
>34g of protein
>360 calories total
>holy shit thats amazi-
>1330 fucking grams of sodium

FUCK I knew it was too good to be true bro why the fuck do they have to add fucktons of salt to everything?
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>>77458957
would plastic surgery hide the stomach stretch marks?
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Does a 1000 calorie deficit ruin my metabolism? I eat 150g of protein a day minimum, around 100ish carbs and 65 grams of fat. I also do some cardio and lift weights (dumbells)
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>>77459308
just drink a bunch of water ez
>>77459309
stretch marks are tears in the skin, they need to be cut out to be truly gone
with time they fade and flatten though so it's not that big of a deal imo
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>>77459313
Drinking a gallon of water doesn't magically flush out consuming fucktons of salt
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>>77459243
The good news is it's probably just technique holding you back. The top of a pull up is the hardest part, so you're definitely strong enough to do it. You probably just aren't engaging your lats properly.
Try the following cue:
>Break the bar
If that doesn't work, you can also try actively pulling your shoulders down (scapular retraction) at the start of the rep. Also, try assistance with bands. They give the most support at the bottom of the rep, which is where you're trying to get stronger.
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>>77459311
Whether your metabolism is ruined or not depends entirely on carb consumption. That might be a bit too much. Might be okay if you're eating them all in one meal and they are whole food. Ideally just eliminate carbs to be sure.
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>>77459308
Lmao hes scared of sodium
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>>77459308
>more carbs than fat or protein
>worrying about sodium
NGMI
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>>77459327
So why do carbs have the magic power to ruin your metabolism?
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>>77459296
Oh Ketoschitzo, how I enjoy your nonsensical ramblings. Your strange un-cited charts of anecdotes and sillness and your refusal to post body.
I do hope you have people in your life who care for you, that this incessant posting on a moldovian taxidermy forum is not your only way of making human contact?
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>>77459327
I pretty much eat like 70% of my carbs in my first meal right after my workout and the only carbs i consume are potatos, rice, or sometime low carb pasta.
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>>77459331
Carbs block fat burning.
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>>77459331
Through the power of ketoschitzo's wizardry. He has a powerful spell he casts that changes how physics and chemistry work.
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>>77459331
please don't reply to him
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>>77459311
If you are losing more than 1% of your weight it's too much
>>
80.6 kg this morning again.
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>>77459328
>>77459329
well when you're in your 40s with high blood pressure that's kind of an issue
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>>77459311
depends if you're on keto or not, the body breaks down muscles instead of fat if you're not. keto and fasting keeps muscle breakdown to a minimum because the body choose fat and ketones as the primary fuel source
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Fatty Contest
FatGermanFuck
86.9kg
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>>77459355
High blood pressure is easily cured with keto and/or fasting.
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>filter: carb, low carb, keto
What other words?
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>alternate day fasting week 5: 179.9

Fuck. I was on leftover cleanup duty all week but there no way I had 4000 calories every day right? I haven't pooped yet ill way afterwards. Still on track to being under 150 by week 20. I cant believe I lost to fatretard....
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>>77459398
lmao
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>>77459398
Why do alternate day fasting that shit sucks. Just do 3-7 day fasts

>>77459399
Someone kill this faggot
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>>77459403
I like it, it's as simple as can be and I dont have to worry about my kidneys failing or anything. I probably lost a pound compared to Saturdays where I fasted Friday. As long as im at 169.9 week 10 then ill make it.
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>>77457709
>>77457783
>>77458715
>>77458970
>get a surgery worth 5 figures or look like a disgusting, melted monster for the rest of my life
are you guys serious
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>Hit goal weight
>GF breaks up with me shortly after
>Relapse for 2 weeks
>Gain like 5lbs

It's not the worst, can lose this in under 3 weeks. Sadly sleeping like shit because I'm mass consuming caffinated diet soda to fight binge urges. Not even hungry my brain is just screaming for stimulation.
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the ketoschizo is still replying to hours old posts hes already replied too
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>>77459444
Unlimited calorie carnivore gets rid of loose skin.
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fatty contest
fatretard
176.8
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>>77459395
CICO. word that's never invoked in good faith
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>>77459355
high BP can be solved by losing weight and exercising, and quitting drinking. Basically don't be a fat goy and you can keep your BP low for life.
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>>77459438
48 hour fasts are fine, especially if you combine it with keto meals so you don't lose ketosis
the only argument for longer fasts are bro science about autophagy, and that's speculative at best. that you avoid the worst side effects like lightheadedness and fainting from shorter fasts is a major reason to not do it
I prefer 72 hour fasts myself, but longer than that and I get ortostatic hypotension, BP fall when I stand up. it's not very serious but annoying.
you also don't really need to worry about electrolytes with just a 48 hour fast really
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hello bread maker? bake for us fatties please
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>>77459609
>Eating bread
ngmi
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>>77459609
bread machine broke
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Make new thread nigger
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I hate these jiggly ass upper arms.
134lbs lost, another 130ish to go.
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>>77459707
hasn't even hit page 10 yet
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>>77459707
wow, rude
>>77459778
>>77459778
>>77459778
>>77459778
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>>77459594
72-96 hours fasted is when you get stem cell gains.
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>>77459781
I think its all bullshit thats done in mice.
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>>77459780
>wow, rude
Thank you kind sir
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>>77459395
you will lose posts when anons are talking about their macros
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>>77457414
As high and as fast as you can without having problems. You should be aiming to do bursts of the maximum possible incline i.e two, three, five minutes but this takes weeks to work up to. The more you push the more you benefit. Go a little harder every time. In addition to the immediate day-to-day impact of exercise there is a subtler long-tail cognitive spiritual element that builds over extended periods of commitment i.e four, six, twelve months which is not spoken about enough but it is the key to victory. Know that you are in a spiritual war and those forces manifest within the body. Whilst every day's exercise is a singular battle that must be won you cannot lose sight of the overall campaign and must act with the big picture in mind always. If you are to succeed you must understand yourself to your own agent of change and own the field of battle entire. God watches always.
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Fatty Contest
FatGermanFuck
87.0kg



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