>Who is /fat/ for?For plump pumpkins working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqhttps://f-droid.org/packages/fr.shiningcat.simplehiit/Previous thread: >>77456302
>>77459778Remember: to lose weight, never eat carbohydrate!
Tomorrow I've finished three weeks of rolling fasts. I've gone down about 8 kg, though most likely 2 kg is just water weight and glycogen. Probably going to have another mcdonalds meal, hopefully without the liquid shit I had the last time.Starting work again next week so I'll quit my fasting for now, maybe do it during the weekends but it's a bit too hard for me to fast during work days. But I'll probaby keep a deficit until I go a bit further, I'll see. Would still like to go down 5 more kg, and even better 15 kg, but this is what I managed this time around.
Found a pretty reliable keto burger bun recipe. Now I just stuff my face with cheeseburgers all day every day and the weight is just sloughing off.
The cutting trend begins once more. Hadnt been this weight since Early June. Shall continue on with it, and especially the PSMF diet.
>>77459797Niggas still eating mcdonalds after a fast even though last time he sprayed his toilet with diarrhea jflWhat addiction looks like
How to get rid of cortisol belly
how big are my muscles going to look after i fill my glycogen storage?
should i begin recomp if my belly fat is the last thing that needs to shrinkit's not even super protruding, but it's there
>>77459778>somehow lost 7 lbs this week
I CAN'T STOP BINGE EATING
>>77459874Literally don't eat. It's simple
>same weight 4 days in a rowIS THIS WATER WEIGHT I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>77459836>cortisol bellyfirst time i'm hearing this description for potbelly. just your diet of choice. you can't specifically target your gut. i mean you can but it is inefficient and people get better results by just overall weight loss.
The sloppa is calling me.......
>made a pound of liver and onions the other night>was so damn full I felt like I was about to blow up>didn't eat for the entire next day until after 8pmFuck bros, liver really is a cheat food. I'm gonna start having more of this, albeit in smaller portions to last longer.
>>77459909>a pound of liver and onions
>>77459897check your Vitamin D levels even if you're already supplementing it, /fat/bro.i used to be hungry all the time unless i consumed 3000-4000 calories before i took massive doses of Vitamin D. now i can easily maintain 1500 calories and i am actually satiated with the normal servings instead of the double or triple servings. even slop servings.hunger associated with Vitamin D deficiency>Appetite disturbances were significantly associated with increased odds of Vitamin D deficiency, even after controlling for depression and other confounders. However, due to the cross-sectional design, causality cannot be inferred. Prospective studies are needed to clarify this association's directionality and underlying mechanisms.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1499404625002660Vitamin D helping in weight loss>After using vit D supplementation for 6 weeks, WT (weight), WC (waist circumference), and body mass index (BMI) were decreased significantly and serum vit D increased significantly compared to control grouphttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6071442/us fatties having lower vitamin D>High prevalence of vitamin D (VD) deficiency in obese subjects is a well-documented finding, most probably due to volumetric dilution into the greater volumes of fat, serum, liver, and muscle, even though other mechanisms could not completely be excluded, as they may contribute concurrentlyhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6780345/
>>77459911How much to take and for how long?
>>7745991450,000 IU per week.
>>77459916Once per week? Or divided daily?
With 3 weeks to spare. At the time of those posts I was at 251lbs. I hope the anon that said "ngmi" is still here and remembers that, I'd like to thank you for a bit of extra motivation and get fucked. 22lbs to go. To everyone else, keep going and WAGMI.
>>77459937ngmi
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>>77459937good job fatty
>>77459910Learn how to cook, nigga.
>>77459937cool story bro I had about 22lbs left on my bulk when I was that light>t lean frame-mogger
Fatty Contestcyansphere168.3 pounds
>>77459909Try this, I make it everyday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUGsb2Fcr8
>>77459894>first time i'm hearing this description for potbelly.cushings syndrome is something different, pretty much your arms get small and your center mass get huge
>>77459829well that probably had less to do with it being mcdonalds and more with fasting. but it usually doesn't happen when I refeed
>>77459938Already did though.>>77459948Thanks bro. >>77459954>that lightGood for you bro, but 197lbs is straight up almost obesity for me though.
>>77459957Keto is for fat retarded women.
>>77459973Its the only thing that actually works tho.
>>77459880At least u ain’t goin up. Water is good for you anon!!! Muscle weight > Water weight >>>> fat weight
>>77459973>Keto is for fat retarded women.so your mom's on keto huh
>>77459778started the cut, never took creatine, is it good to do it on a cut?Saw something about face bloat while on it but I doubt it.
Fatty ContestAwooga168.0lbsHad to phone post, this spur.is, mcl.io shit is driving me crazy
>>77459991She has tried it before, yes.
Fatty ContestYatagarasu181.5 lbsStarting to see the first hints of veins in the abdominal area. Stomach is getting closer to flat
>>77459995some say creatine makes you look "bloated" because it helps retain water in your muscles. creatine monohydrate has virtually no calories.
>>77460014Nice, that's always promising to see, keep up the good effort
>>77459914you need to test your current levels because of toxicity dangerand then you need to test again a couple of months into supplementing it because people respond differently. i took massive doses but that was because i barely respond to it.>>77459919can do either
>>77460049I'll just take 4000IU daily instead
>>77459909
>>77459937Good job anon
Aaaaaaaaah I just ate like at least 1500 calories above my target of 2k just out of sheer fucking depression..I don't even know what happenedToday it's a festivity, so I went to eat lunch with my grandma and ate plenty of meat; oh well, maintenance day am I right?But then for dinner I just... stared into nothingness as I cooked and ate almost double what I should have, and then just ate half a pint of ice cream on top just because fuck me I guessshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit I guess I'll do my best going forward... kinda want to try and puke it all out tho ngl
>>77460095>kinda want to try and puke it all out tho ngldon't do that, you'll develop bulimiajust don't eat tomorrow or something to make up for it
>>77460095>I just couldn't help myself, I masturbated today and then I saw a pretty lady and just ran her down into the ground and then raped her, then I saw this pretty teenager and dragged her into the bushes and raped her too, shiiit I just can't help myself, o wellYeah this this thread is not for me.
>>77460125I mean he is kind pathetic for not having self control to not gorge himself with food but you're twice as pathetic for trying to compare overeating with actual sexual assault and rape, you dumb mouthbreathing nigger.
>>77460089Thanks bro <3
>>77460127It was to illustrate my level of disgust, that's what he sounds like to a non fatty.
>>77459785Remember: while Keto will work on epilepsy it will not work on schizophrenia.
Something I wasn't ready for once I got out of the 300s was for my armpits to start to become, well, actual pits again.
Day 6 of 7 of my fast. Homestretch.
>>77460133>It was to illustrate my level of disgustWell you should learn how to express yourself better, you sound like a nigger to non-savages, when you try and compare something like that to rape. A civilized person would've came up with a better comparison.
>>77459914I take 20.000 IU per day with K2 and magnesium
>>77460144No, you guys are fucking disgusting. It's no different from some one that has a 'sexual emergency' or a nigger that goes around stabbing people because he can't help it. You tell yourself it's okay and you excuse your actions while normal people look on in disgust.
>>77460153>sexual emergencyWhat are you even talking about? You sound like an absolute retarded nigger.
>>77460149no toxicity symptoms? i take 10k iu with k2 for a while not sure if i should stop it might helped with my binge eating
Fatty ContestBeefyWeiner185.0 lbs5'9"
>>77458582
Stepped on the scale and got under 190. I know it's supposed to get harder the lower you go but I kind of enjoy it at this range. I can just remove a side or skip a meal whereas when I was heavier I had to still eat a lot while technically being under maintenance.
>>77459995idk about face bloat but expect about 6 pounds of weight gain. more if you're muscular.
>>77460095you're me before i started Vitamin D. time to test your Vitamin D levels.
>>77460165nope. been taking it since 2016 and nothing bad to report.
The closer I get to my gw, the more depressed I'm getting...
>>77460251Well that's because Games Workshop prices are crazy.
>>77460251Post body
>>77460251low Vitamin D is linked to depression. time to check on your Vitamin D.
I’ve been loving slow and controlled weights. Only listing the working sets. But I do warmups with ~ 70% of working set weight. MENTZER FULLBODY (B)Saturday, Aug 15, 2026 at 3:16pmSeated Shoulder Press (Machine)Set 1: 110 lbs x 8 @ 8.5 rpeLeg Press (Machine)Set 1: 350 lbs x 8 @ 7.5 rpeCalf Press (Machine)Set 1: 350 lbs x 20 @ 7.5 rpeIso-Lateral Row (Machine)Set 1: 180 lbs x 8 @ 8 rpeLying Leg Curl (Machine)Set 1: 115 lbs x 4 @ 9 rpeSeated Leg Curl (Machine)Set 1: 180 lbs x 8 @ 7.5 rpePreacher Curl (Machine)Set 1: 115 lbs x 7 @ 9.5 rpeLeg Raise Parallel BarsSet 1: 10 reps @ 8.5 rpe@hevyapphttps://hevy.com/workout/UveSxEeDtOP
>>77459973Keto is for lean geniuses who are smart enough to lose weight successfully. CICO is for fat retarded people who can't figure out that sugar merchant advertising isn't a good weight loss strategy.
>weight plateau againThis shit is driving me crazy. I see good progress for a while, then a total stall for almost a month. I'm having the right amount of protein, meeting my calorie count and I've even started adding runs into my routine.Is it that I'm just gaining muscle and that's throwing it off? I've heard muscle is heavier than fat but I feel like that would just be a convenient excuse at this point.
>>77460308Check your measurements. Is your waist any smaller? How about your thighs? Your upper arms? Your neck?
what with the vitamin d talk?
>>77460308Sounds like you're eating carbs. Eventually you will regain weight.
Lose 1lb during the week, put back on 1.2lbs over the weekend. Im shit
>>77460337Take a shit
>>77460331I feel like my thighs are a bit smaller, they definently don't rub as much anymore. A pair of pants I used to wear a lot also won't stay up without a belt being tight now. But even so, I still look tubby in the mirror and it's hard to gauge how long ago I managed to accomplish those two things. I've absolutely lost weight as the scales have gone way down in the last few months but it's really slowing down now or something.>>77460335Pretty much no carbs in my diet. I don't have any sugar, I drink only water and most of my diet has been chicken, veggies and some protein supplements.
>>77460343Yes, sometimes that happens. If your measurements are going down, don't let the plateau bother you.
Got shit sleep last night, woke up late, helped my dad move 6 stone blocks at his house, and my tummy has hurt all day (could it be the cantaloupe, kiwi, 2 cups of coffee or supplements I had for breakfast?) Just did a 4 mile walk and a 40 min full body kettlebell circuit. Stomach still feels off but know I should eat something. Feeling a little bit better, but honestly I could just lay around the rest of the day. But muh calories man muh calories.4lb over what I weighed yesterday but seeing lil ab definition and new veins popping out
>>77460334anything that can be shilled, will be shilledprobably the most overrated supplement of them all
Fatty ContestFatdog95.4kg
>Got the shitsI guess this is a good thing?
>>77460379>having protein>shitting has reduced and become pretty dryAnnoying as fuck. What's your secret been to shitting more?
>>77460387Raspberries for me. I've been having a cup of them with my yogurt in the morning and now I'm super regular, and my shits are smooth and only need one wipe.
>>77460390Maybe I need to add yogurt and raspberries into things, dry shitting is no fun. I thought chugging water would help with hydration for shitting but it's done nothing.
>>77460308You need to fast
>>77460392Yeah you need some fiber to help give the stool some actual shape and encourage it to move through your body.
>>77460398How should I do that? I see various suggestions for it and I always think about that "body eating muscle before fat" thing.
>>77459937>22lbs to go.ngmi
>>77460406When you move your hand to put food in your mouth, simply close your mouth so the food can't get in.
>10kg down>but 10 more to go
>>77460423For one meal? Two? Three? Multiple days? Looking for specifics bro.
How do you guys deal with deficit insomnia? I laid awake for six (6) hours last night, even after consuming 10mg of melatonin. I can put up with the interminable hunger/ cognitive decline but the lack of sleep is psychological torture. For context, I'm eating ~800cals/ day (TDEE 1350; this is typical for me); I could consider marginally raising my daily intake but I'd rather avoid it.
>>77460455>TDEE 1350Show bobs and vagene
>>77460406Start with OMAD and increase the days to 7 days. That's what I am doing anyway.
Might as well ask, how goes learning to cook for everyone?
anyone here ride an e-bike? what models could you fit your fatass on
>>77460455weed
>>77460457Why don't you answer my question first?
>>77460481Unfortunately illegal here but it has historically worked before. :(
>>77460462Already knew how to cook, just didn't know how to choose good food. I only eat chicken, eggs and oatmeal now (note: not the goyslop instant oats, I do rolled oats with flax seed), all of which are fairly easy to cook. The cute stuff (soup, stew, pasta, steak) is stuff that I must only eat if I am cooking for others and everyone else is eating the food that I made.
>>77460455I don’t know, I just… deal with it. Try to find ASMR or accept that I’m up and try to be productive I guess. It sucks and I want it to end. My sleep is suffering. See above post of shit sleep.>>77460462Loving it and enjoying the challenge. Cooking good meals for myself and my folks is very rewarding. My dad loves it, my mom is resistant but oh well.
>>77460483Drop coffee, cola. Don't eat too late. Take daily walks. No phones in bedroom
>>77460466Ebikes are a waste of money and do not provide any degree of serious exercise. If you're too fat to ride a road bike, ride a mountain bike (both can be procured easily by either Craigslist or the Forbidden Nigger Method). If you're too fat to ride either, use exclusively a stationary bike and walk to go places. Treat both as your punishment for being fat until you are human-sized enough to ride a mountain bike on a road. Never ever ever get a fat bike or an ebike.
>>77460455melatonin is a meme, its really only meant if you work nightshifts have need to force your brain to shutoff.
There's a new clinic for treating binge eating disorder that's opened near me recently, should I go there bros? I have bad experience with therapists from before, but this is a private clinic so I guess maybe they care a bit more. I assume most of their patients will be women, so I'm worried they'll look down on me for going there since I'm a man. They have pretty good reviews. What do you guys think? I'm just so tired of fighting this fight alone and always failing.
>>77460455I simply accept that I will not sleep and find a bunch of other stuff to do (chores, reading, schoolwork). If I am too delirious to do anything, I simply scroll 4chan or, if all else fails, I watch YouTube. If I have engagements on the next day, I don't sleep, caffeinemaxx all day long, and fall asleep at 8 pm. If I don't have anything to do, I keep on finding things to do until I fall asleep before ultimately nodding off and waking up at 10 am
>>77460500What have you got to lose fat boy? Go get help if you need it
>>77459778>mfw my face is visibly changing due to fat lossit's an abstract sort of feel. i wouldnt say i look better, just thinner.
>>77460455How is your TDEE that low? Lift weights before dinner/bed and avoid cardio.
>>77460500What do they even do, sounds like a scam. Is it like alcoholic meetings
>>77460500Therapists steal your money, try to bluepill you and, at worst, railroad you into taking antipsychotics to ruin your mind. Failing is a natural part of the process, and you'll be able to make it just fine without therapy.
>>77459937Good effort. We're all capable of making it, but not all of us are going to make it. Our journey is extremely hard, though always possible, and the weak fail while the strong succeed. You have made great progress along it already, and are fully capable of making even more. Keep going
>>77460515It's just therapy, only for fat people who eat too much.
>>77460509this is my biggest anxiety of weight loss, everyone looks like they age 15-20 years
you can be literally medically obese and amerimutts will still say "why are you on a diet you're not fat"
>>77460491>Don't eat too lateInteresting, isn't that counter-intuitive? >>77460489>>77460505At least I'm not alone in my suffering. It certainly helps that I'm /neet/ right now, I suppose. >>77460511>How is your TDEE that low?4'11 and female (woman). It's incredibly unfair, and the alternative is losing weight at a much slower pace to retain intake above 'standard' levels. My timeframe isn't permitting so that wouldn't work, either. Would you count walking as cardio?
>>77460509Nobody looks good fat, it's likely that you're simply getting used to your improved face. Keep on going
>>77460527Being fat just removes your humanoid features, doesn't really make you look younger. You just become a blob and it becomes hard to tell your age or even gender
>>77460529are you an islander by chance?
>>77460455stop screen time 1 hour before bed, no coffee in the afternoon (caffeine has a 5-7 hour half life), journal if i'm really stimulated, then read for a bit. feel better, anon
>>77460540Nope, just unfortunate. I'm within regular BMI range too (~21-22?), which doesn't help.
>>77460500test your Vitamin D and try supplementing it before trying therapy. especially if you're hungry all the time.see my post here >>77459911
>>77460455There's something called a "paradoxical reaction" where a drug creates the opposite effect of what it's intended for. I sleep better with 1mg melatonin than 5mg, for some odd fucking reason. With 5mg I just get restless. It's uncommon, but you could try a lower dose and see if that helps. Also remember that both green and black tea has a not insignificant amount of caffeine in it. If you avoid coffee and instead enjoy a cup of tea before bedtime, that could be keeping you up. I struggle with insomnia from time to time, I have been my entire life really. It does a number on your mental health no doubt. I've had so many nights throughout the years with 1-2 hours of sleep that I find comfort in the fact that ultimately it's just uncomfortable. I'll be tired the next day, but a good night's sleep will come eventually.
>>77460455>I could consider marginally raising my daily intake but I'd rather avoid it.why would you rather avoid it? i get insomnia when fasting so i just stopped fasting.always do what works and what you can stick to.
chicken goes kind of crazy for the calories
>>77460529Being a NEET is both a blessing and a curse for weight loss. While commitments decrease your total available time for exercise, a regular schedule provides a solid framework for consistency, onto which exercise may be added with surprising ease. Having a job/being in school also takes time, which means that a non-NEET will have less time available for unproductive activities.> t: former NEET
Guess the weight - 193cm.i am thinking about starting steroids, my life sucks anyways. Test E 250mg every 3.5 days plus aromatase inhibitor
>>77460562lmao bro
>>77460562300lbs?
>>77460562>steroids after chronic obesity bro is speedrunning heart failure
>>77460565Wut?i will give you a hint. I started at 190kg
>>77460562fraud poster passing by. i'd reconsider that and do a glp1 like retratitude instead.
>go to gym at 1 AM on a public holiday>no one there>fuck yes.png>1:50 AM>nearly done with session>some fucking young toned bitch comes into the gym driveway with her car>I can see her through the window parking>the moment she gets out of her car she looks inside >sees me and rolls eyes>I roll my eyes aswellFuck you too bitch, can't an ugly(ex-fatty) chud work out in peace alone inside a gym on a Saturday night?
new diet>one costco protein bar>3 eggs + mustard>1 can of tuna (200 calories)>one mozarella cheese stick (100 calories)>2 cups of coffee, + ~60 cals of creameach day
>>77460461I might start a bit smaller. Currently I'm trying to sit around 1200-1400cal per day (which includes weight lifting at least 3 days per week). I have some freeze dried Japanese food that's about 20cal per meal, so I might have those as my "fasting" meals so that I still get to have the sensation of eating.The meals are also basically just water and some celery, but they're tasty enough.
>>77460574redpill me
>>77460562Based keto enjoyer.
>>77460669This sounds terrible
>>77460690its a little better than straight fasting
>>77460653Should've just gone up to the window and made a giga chad pose.
>>77460669>>3 eggs + mustarddo you dip them or mash and mix them?
>>77460669People who eat protein bars must be masochists, it's like eating a brick
made a shake with two skewps of chocolate protein powder, a banana, water, and ice and now I feel like rich piano
>>77460681He's just an idiot who thinks any gear at all means you're on the same level as a mentally ill carded bodybuilder on stage. Modest roiding can still have negative health effects, but certainly not life threatening even if you're retarded. 500mg/week TRT and nothing else is minor. Go for it if you really want.
>>77460455Melatonin didn't work for me and I've had problems sleeping the entire year. You need to fix the other areas of your diet. Limit your caffeine intake later in the day, move your meal window a little later to combat hunger at night, exercise daily, manage your stress etc.
>>77460455you need to push your meals back. fast in the morning with black coffee, have a very small lunch, then just OMAD dinner. you’ll probably feel like shit at work though but you do get kinda used to it.
Never ask a ketolard what their triglyceride levels are.Never ask a highcarbnigger what their A1c is.Never ask a fasttard how much muscle they have.Never ask a CICOnigger about their calories in.Never ask a vegan about their B12 levels.
>>77460808Lmao
>>77460808>Never ask a highcarbnigger what their A1c is.it's hbA1c
You may not like it, butWAGMI
>>77460808fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK
>>77460808Never ask /fit/ to post body
my pitfat got even smaller to the point i don't see it unless i'm flexing me nonexistent pecsi can't wait until my bitchtits are gone toowagmi
>>77460822>it's hbA1chb is just short for hemoglobin
>>77460757>only two scoopsRich currently powering a generator with how fast he's spinning in his grave man.
>>77460854looked again and it's still there it's just smaller.it's just that i forgot what the normal look is lmao
This is the last stretchI have 10 kilos to goI wanna reach it in two months
>>77460868>I wanna reach it in two monthswhat's your deficit?
>>77460869I’m not sure but it’s big cause I fast some daysLike today I’m fasting
I have decided to postpone my alternate day fasting in favor of 4-8 hour daily hikes until I can freaking fall asleep at night.
>>77460873based fooster
>>77460873Based faster
Going to sleep, another weigh in in the morning after 6 days of eating nothing. God I love fasting, scale is guaranteed to go down a pound or so
how long until working out and dieting becomes a habit you don't have to force yourself to do?
Got a new job three months ago and lost 21 lbs. I am now in the normal BMI category. Fun fact, fatty cutoff at 6’3” is easy to remember because it’s exactly 200
>>77460529I dont know about walking, my experience is with running and long bike rides, both cause high metabolism for the next 24 hours and make it really hard to sleep.It's exactly fair, the amount of food is proportional to your size. I'm a 6ft man and I'm eating 1300 cal right now, I'm hungry, were all hungry. Just the amount of entitlement needed to say that it's not fair, yeah you're a woman.Eat boiled potatoes, eat things that are filled with water and have low calories. Green beans, broccoli, zucchini, pickles, watermelon. Eat chicken, greek yogurt, oatmeal with protein powder. This is my diet, I haven't reduced the amount of food I normally eat, it's just filled with things that are low in calories and slow to digest.
>>77460928Yeah senpai, just eat some grains nwah https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=986SxWVuoJI
>>77460917It's going to take a while, and you will have lots of setbacks. Only constant checks on your dedication will keep you grounded. The addictive forces that allow you to continue being fat rarely fade completely. Think of becoming /fit/ as ending an addiction to a highly addictive drug, particularly one that is socially acceptable and even encouraged to use. It will take as long as it will take, and there is no true way to know how long that is. The only way that you can shorten it is by unyielding dedication, and then it may be as short as months.
>>77460521Thanks man I appreciate it. Hope you're doing great progress yourself.
need some advice:I lost 20lbs over the summer following a 6-week PHUL program and eating well. I’m a teacher heading back in to work next week and while going to the gym is easy, the dieting aspect is going to be difficult given my schedule. Can you guys give me some advice/ideas for breakfast and lunch. Here’s what my meals would be:>breakfast3 Bridges Egg White bites120g 90/10 ground beefcoffee (8oz) with vanilla collagen peptides>lunch Taylor Farms Green Goddess or Mediterranean120g 90/10 ground beef or shredded chickencoffee (8oz) or Alani Nu canI occasionally skip lunch depending on how busy I get. I’ll sneak in a bag of chips or a Barebells protein bar if I can. I just want to stay consistent. Over summer, I was able to regularly cook all my meals because of the extra time, but now that I’m going back, I don’t want to lose the momentum and want to aim for 50lbs total over the course of the year. Want to see what has worked for you all to stay satiated and keep it as easy as possible.
>>77459778Does anyone else occasionally look at the calories of meals that they used to eat, simply to remind themselves of what they have worked to escape?A few of my own lowlights:> Full Domino's ExtravaganZZa pizza, pan crust, extra cheese + full order of chocolate lava cakes (4,720 kcal)> Full party-size bag of Doritos (2,250 kcal)> Dozen Kroger donuts (bare minimum 3,960 kcal assuming 12 glazed, actual totals were higher and varied)I'm down to 168 pounds @ 5'11", WAGMI
>>77460963Why not do those instagramTikTok meal preps? I do those occasionally, some sort of sweet potato beef bowl with ???veggies??? And I love them. Make a bunch at a time, Tue an out great. What I’m saying is meal prep on the weekends and rip it during the week
>>77460963Breakfast looks good except for the egg bites, fried or hard-boiled eggs work better (as a fellow teacher, I'd recommend fried eggs, as they're quite easy to cook in a few minutes and can even be meal prepped a few days in advance). What you have for lunch now sounds okay, but if you want to minimize the side snacking I'd recommend adding in about 100g of rice and always opting for coffee over the energy drink. If two meals is enough for you then that's great, if not then another 100g of chicken for dinner works well with your setup. Meal prep on the weekends, don't eat anything outside of your plan, and you should be good
>>77460963Are you doing keto? Because you got no carbs in there, you're going to be really low on energy.
forgot to add that I drink a 16oz smoothie consisting of pineapple, kale, spinach, green apple, and celery and have that either at breakfast or throughout the workday>>77460977there’s a local meal prep place I like but I’m trying to cut down reliance on them. Plus I’m trying to reduce my spending on fast foods.>>77460982I have dinner at home before I go to the gym. My dinner varies, but typically it’s about the same as lunch though I’ll add in some rice, quinoa or make tacos with low calorie tortillas.>>77460992no keto, which is also why I drink caffeine twice a day. I usually have my first cup around 8am and the second around 12:45PM to help give me some energy to deal with my hardest class period after lunch.
>900 calories breakfastpreviously, i would say it's over but after Vitamin D, i know this will last me until night and that i won't go over 1500 calories.reminder to check your Vitamin D even if you're supplementing it because the daily recommendation is bullshit and fatties have low Vitamin D
Bros... over the past couple of years I have gone from 220lbs to 180lbs. It's been a long journey. I faltered at many points. Would either stop going to the gym or start eating unhealthy for periods of time. I always hit a plateau at every 10lbs too, it was always frustrating and I wouldn't lose a single pound over a few months. I have simple routines. My main goal is weight loss. I do mostly cardio: running, rowing, elliptical. I put in some weight lifting just to keep toned, but keep it simple: pushups, dips, abs, pull-ups, chin-ups (less of the last two recently), chest fly with not too much weight (max 40lb dumbbells). I recently added sumo squats and hip thrusts because the back of my legs and ass were pathetic. It actually helped a lot with lower back and hip pain. I was amazed. I have learned that weight loss and health goals are not a linear process, and over time my fitness and diet have gotten really good despite some small downturns. I am still considered overweight (just... ALMOST THERE) for my height. I still don't like the way I look in the mirror. I have pockets of fat in my stomach and chest that seem to just not want to go away. It's not gyno, it's too soft and it has improved ever so slightly. I suspect this will be the last to go. I pretty well lost my double chin, which I am happy about.While I am still not entirely happy with how I look in mirror naked, it has greatly improved my life in all areas. I sleep better, I feel better most of the time, I have less joint and back pain, my mental clarity is the best its been in a decade, I have become very disciplined, etc.Just keep at it, anons.
>>77461023forgot to add that Vitamin D's effect on hunger is so powerful that i don't have to use the mighty potatoes anymore. i haven't ventured into slop a lot but i am eating a lot less even if it is slop.but a lot of zero soda does cause me to go hungry and do 2000 calories so i had to quit it
>>77460527i don't look older. if anything i look younger
>>77455143im 104.5kg today, pretty much always hungry, have trouble sleeping
>thought exercise, losing weight and getting healthy would make me happier>was actually feeling really good for a long while>now gradually sliding back into depressionI don't feel so good bros.
how long to lose 35kg with gym 6 times a week and not going past 2000kcal?
>>77459778super cute OP>>77459937great job! keep it up anon
Man, these keto burger buns I make now are a game changer. They look a bit off, but they scratch the bread itch and make good burgers. Now I have 2-4 double bacon cheeseburgers a day and I'm still steadily losing weight.
How many tuna cans a week max to avoid any possible long term mercury risk? Can I afford one?
>>77461120>2-4 double bacon cheeseburgers a day and I'm still steadily losing weight
>>77460373I'd put the guy shilling cow piss as a more overrated supplement. Because its literally piss.
Fatty ContestHedonisticFucker83.3 kg
Does it ever get easier? On day 5 of counting calories and I'm feeling almost sick and my mood sucks. Wife is generally being a bitch about me not being at 100% too.
What's the optimal amount of time for a fast? 48/72/96 hours? I don't want to lose muscle or do anything long-term (maybe every other week or something) I Just want to reap the peak benefits
>>77461173Just gotta push on bro, the thing that'll make you feel good is when you start doing weigh ins and seeing the progress. The first two or three weeks are when you'll feel like it's not working and you'll want to give up, but you have to push on.
>>77461120>Now I have 2-4 double bacon cheeseburgers a day and I'm still steadily losing weight.giwtwm
>>77461173get a better wife
>>77461173>>77461180How much of your mood is your wife's behaviour to you souring things? Why is she not supportive of you being healthier and is she always this unsupportive if you are unwell? It gets easier, when you see progress. When you have to buy new clothes. When you don't sweat on a gentle walk.You're going to make it buddy. We love you, even if your wife doesnt.
>>77461125take the deenz pill just squeeze lemons on them>>77461173>>77461064>>77461073time to test your Vitamin D. it cured my constant hunger and it being low is associated with depression>>77461089depends on your TDEE1 kg of fat is 7000-7700 calories. do the math
>>77461199>time to test your Vitamin D. it cured my constant hunger and it being low is associated with depressionPossible. I was taking Vit D supplements daily to deal with being indoors most of the time but I'd lapsed on taking it over the last week or so.
Fatty ContestLonDon98.9kg182cmBig fluctuation this week but still keeping to 0.5kg down per week. Am also carrying a 1,243 calories forward from a fuck up last sunday. Only got to the gym once this week for stength training as there's been a heatwave here but have managed to walk 85.33km/16h 47m this week.Waitin' on the next Whoosh.
>>77461208Kidding aside, good work, but it's going to take longer to really see some difference.
>>77461208just in case you're short on time next week I went ahead and made this for you.
>>77461217Next week would have "4 weeks" not "3 weeks" you spastic.
>>77461179ngl, it's kinda great
>>77461224Based. Keto is the way.
>>77461228They're saucy girls too. Slathered in mayo, and I got this low carb ketchup and bbq sauce and I do those with mustard as well. It's a delight, the buns are cheesy and delicious. Who knew losing weight could be this delicious?
ok i swear this shit is just random, or im in a simulation and someone is fucking with me>spend 2 weeks going to the gym>walking 15k steps EVERY DAY>800 calorie deficit>weighing every single nanogram of thing i eat and drink using a drugdealer type accurate scale>track it all on app>lose weight first week>gain it back 2nd week>get pissed>stop walking for a week>stop gym for a week>last 2 days of the week eat a bunch of sweets, dont track>lose weight again???????
>>77461228Looks so juicy, keto is king.
>>77461008…cook them Yourself at home….?
This site is dead, fph is barely moving
>>77461314Weight loss is not linear at all and experiences a lot of randomic fluctuation. Usually some progress is seen weekly but even there there is a lot of noise. Monthly difference is when the progress is truly reliably observable
Like 15lbs till I'm below 300lbs. Let's fooking go. Should take me three, or four weeks since I lose 5-7lbs every week
>>77461353Yeah, fuck scales. They lie a lot. I'm just gonna keep doing my deficit and going to gym. I'll weight myself maybe once or twice a month to check whats happening but I will not care what the number says as it clearly is bullshit and not at all accurate. If I weigh myself every week or day and see big fluctuations it will make me lose motivation and make me paranoid that I need to eat even less.
>>77461353this is even true for fasting, even if you don’t eat any food and measure yourself right after being on the toilet, it still fluctuates a lot, probably because of water weight. most likely it’s better doing fewer measurements and tracking them on a sheet
>>77461352have you seen the stats of traffic of /fit/ on 4stats.io? it’s pretty abysmal. he other boards pretty much are active just because of paid pajeet shills, but otherwise 4chan is nearly dead
>>77461378The only reason I’m weighing myself every day is for the data point bc I wanna make one of those cool graphs and track the data
>>77461175I do 72 hours, I get too dizzy and light headed on longer fasts.
>>77461403thats a lot of weight lost in a month, nice. what deficit are you on?
>>77461401>>774613524chan lost a lot of aura when the Epstein files showed this site was used for a psy-op designed to break up the 99%er movement because it was scaring the billionaires.
>>77461418It’s mostly water weight. I just do -600kcal or so. Eating about 1900kcal a day at 5’9 180.3lb.
Fatty ContestBearerOfTheCurse129.3kg
>>77460496Anon I don't own a car and walking isn't an everyday option for places I have to travel 40+ miles. lots of models exist for 400lb riders but I'm curious if anyone here owns one
Fatty ContestYatagarasu179.3 lbsActually whooshed again overnight
I could honestly go for longer than 7 days fasting but I don't want to have to refeed over multiple days, plus the fatigue is insane
FattycontestCrisco174.8Keeping my gains. Slowly still losing weight. I started before my initial entries, and im 1 lb from losing 50% of my body weight.
>>77461524Post pics.
Operation long fucking walk has commenced. I have a pbj, a half bag of chips, an apple, two powerades, bug spray, my favorite Mario shirt and my oak walking stick.
>>77461563How long we talking?
>>77461564almost 20 minutes
>>77461564Going for 6 to 8 hours
>>77461580Schizo tier
>>77461563>>77461580>I have a pbj, a half bag of chips, an apple, two poweradesAll the calories burned on your walk? Gained back with this shit you wating
>>77461563>Mario shirt
i usually get a pb&j sandwich before workout, is it a good or a bad idea? it also doubles as my breakfast with some coffee or skimmed milk
>>77461352>>77461401>>77461422I think a lot of people also realized that spamming TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY at everything is just some eastern european or indian trying to cattle prod you into taking idiotic anti-human positions.
>>77461314if you've never lifted before, your weight won't change for months but you'll notice less fat and more muscle.
>>77461641>idiotic anti-human positionsno actually it's just biology, trannyism is the from same vein of facts and science that says being fat is acceptable. ywnbaw
>>77461711Anon, what he is saying is that this website devolved into indian promotion of any luddite or philistine opinion by downvoting any opposition spamming the word tranny at them
>>77460251gw should be lower than current weight. this is a fat loss thread
>>77460425>30kg down>but 15 more to go
>>77461173wife is probably about to crab bucket your fat asswatch out
So, I know I should lower the calories if I'm not losing enough weight, but how do I know when I should raise them? Like, when my metabolism isn.t working good because there are too few? google tells me to increase if I have weight loss stall...
>>77461755Stop looking for an excuse to eat more
>>77460758>500mg/week TRTlol
>>77460968I look more at the sugar than anything else. I see 30g and make pic related as my face when I think about it.
>>77460808>Never ask a ketolard what their triglyceride levels are.Are you implying ketolard pushers don't actually eat keto and thus their triglycerides are high? Because low carb demonstrably lowers trigs. Ask them to post apoB.
I honestly think i might be diabetic, everytime i eat i just feel spaced out afterwards, like i can't focus and i get super tired
>>77460928Yeah you're right.1300cal at 6ft is rough, good luck dude.
>>77461580I've walked 4 hours around a city but that seems a bit much unless you're hiking which I assume you are doing.
>>77461120This the chaffles I think were talked about in a previous thread? Seems like a pretty solid food to add since it's just eggs and cheese.
Gave them little potato chip they didnt want apple
>>77461802Probably time to start doing keto and paying attention to blood sugar. It sucks, but diabetes is reversible.
>>77461850american squirrels
Stomach still fucked up today, not hungry at all and not much motivation to get up and move. This would be my first day in a month/on this cut not doing anything. Do I take the “rest” day and rot in bed, or do I sack up and at least get my 10k steps and kegels in? Every hour or so I rip a nasty fart that’s quite a gamble…
>>7746188210k steps pussy
Feeling hungry?Good. Your cut is working You burn fat
>>77461882You gotta take a walk. Walking helps with digestion and you might as well fart out that gas.
fatty contestfatretard176
>>77461802buy a glucose monitor device from your pharmacy, Amazon, or wherever.look adround for one with cheap test strips because many of them have super expensive ones that cost more than the device+strips first purchase combo.
>>77461802in some places they call this siesta
>>77460134It literally does work on schizophreniaacademic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article-abstract/52/4/sbag082/8725541pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38547601/
I wonder what happened to the /ck/ fasting anon that was posting his progress here every Sunday. My guess is he gave up on the diet.
i want to snack so badly but i will stay strong for you my brothers
>>77461835nibba...
Should I get Greek yogurt or yoplait?
>>77461932neither
>>77461945Yeah I can't even get either anyway
About to add iced honey buns to my refeeds, need more sweets. Not sure coffee cakes or iced honey buns. Might as well get both
>>77461952>need more sweets
>>77461954Nigga I can eat whatever I want lmao after fasting for so long
>>77461932Make yogurt based dips for your meat and it makes even the driest breasts edible. I often eat yogurt alongside with my meal
>>77461958>Make yogurt based dips for your meatThat sounds gross man
>>77461957>Fastinglmao of course
Why do the mods keep deleting my threads about how ketolards are niggers?
>>77461932Any flavored yogurt has tons of unnecesary sugar. flavor it with honey or something.
>>77461969I made a yogurt-based buffalo sauce the other day and it was fantastic. Part of becoming not fat is learning to cook and being open to new foods. Goyslop has ruined you!
>>77461996honey isn't any "healthier" than sugar, they have the same calories
Yess 156.8lb this morning, started at 165 a few months ago. Stomach is shrinking while muscles are getting bigger, body recomp works and I don't have to starve myself.>>77461969You've never had chicken and tatziki? Tandoori chicken? Butter chicken? Kebab? There's lots of different meat dishes that use yogurt.
>>77461932Get pic related, greek yogurt sweetened with stevia. Goes great with a few pieces of real fruit.
>>77462022Am I the only one, who thinks plain yoghurt is tasty enough?
Well I gambled on a fart, midway thru the dice roll I realized I wasn’t hitting lucky and shit my pants a little bit on my walk. ‘Bout a mile from home… but my stomach knot has loosened. Managed to stop the full flow before true disaster struck, but the cheeks are definitely moist.
>>77462032I don't eat it by itself, I will usually mix it in with something.
>>77462022>bro eat my cancer inducing sugar replacement instead of sugar its good for you!kek
>CAAAAAAARBS!!!!!!!!!!
>>77462032no you're not. i found plain Greek yoghurt better tasting than flavored ones and can eat it alone just fine. although i can understand why people add something to it.
>>77462038Stevia is an extract from a plant that naturally tastes sweet because it is actually sugar bound to some other molecule, we can't digest it and release the sugar which is why it has 0 calories.Aspartame is the artificial sugar replacement. Also I hope you didn't take the vax.
>>77462034were you fasting?
>bro im fasting i got this weight loss down i tell you this is LEGIT>proceeds to eat goyslop after not eating for 2 days>yeah so im gonna get so fucking shredded bromeanwhile on ketoschizos weight loss journey>bro im telling you bacon and cheese and butter this is how you lose weight bro its all about the carbs bro i tell youlmao. you guys are so pathetic. can you not have a balanced and controlled diet with excercise? do you all need to fall for the meme diets like the low iq subhumans you are?
>>77462085You forgot to add the Vitamin D schizo high on pills in his basement swearing he isn't hungry
>>77462091I was not aware of such a schizo. Elaborate.
>>77462095Just ctrl-f vitamin D in the last 10 or so threads
>>77462099Oh lawd, whats with these mongs man.
>>77462085>controlled dietnaturally thin people do not need to control their food other than maybe cutting out the goyslop but. they eat until they're full then they simply cannot eat any more food. if you know any naturally thin person irl you know it's true.it's all about fucked up hormones but it is not profitable for big pharma to find the real reason so we end up with GLP drugs that don't address the root of the issue.>>77462091i am indeed not hungry. try testing your Vitamin D and supplement it if it is low to find out for yourself.
>>77462085In losing 5+ pounds a week fasting, why would I do your meme ciconigger nonsense?
>>77462105This is real. I used to have voices in my head telling me to break open my walls and find the little mole-men inside that are spying on me. But when I started taking more vitamin D, the voices changed, they now instead talk about crypto, and tell me how smart I am. Also I'm pretty sure I can hear better now, I see different color frequencies and if I keep increasing the dose I'm certain I'll be able to read people's thoughts and I can achieve a state where I receive my required calories through sunlight.
Of course the fasting retard is an ESL. o i am laffin.
>>77462113do not forget to test your levels in a lab to avoid toxicity
>>77460108yeah yeah I won't, today I went back to eating quite well, it's just a slow-down I guess>>77460207I already tested them, they are critically low, like 6 ng/L lowdoc gave me 2k IU per day to supplement for a few months before retesting, it's been 3 weeks of supplementation for now and there's been 0 observable differences in anything at all
When will fastards realize fasting is CICO?
>>77462135It obviously is but you know what people mean, stop being a le technically faggot
>>77462128>it's been 3 weeks of supplementation for now and there's been 0 observable differences in anything at allthe recommended daily dose is calculated wrong according to this study>This regression line revealed that 600 IU of vitamin D per day achieves that 97.5% of individuals will have serum 25(OH)D values above 26.8 nmol/L rather than above 50 nmol/L which is currently assumed. It also estimated that 8895 IU of vitamin D per day may be needed to accomplish that 97.5% of individuals achieve serum 25(OH)D values of 50 nmol/L or more. As this dose is far beyond the range of studied doses, caution is warranted when interpreting this estimate. Regardless, the very high estimate illustrates that the dose is well in excess of the current RDA of 600 IU per day and the tolerable upper intake of 4000 IU per day [1].https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4210929/and fatties need an even a larger dose because it gets diluted into all the fat. see the last paragraph here >>77459911keep supplementing and test it again to show the doctor that it is not increasing as much as expected. the doctor should know that some people are resistant to increasing their Vitamin D levels even if he doesn't know the recommended dose is bullshit.
>>77462135Fasting is cico and keto mate.
>>77462082No, was eating normal til yesterday when my stomach started feeling upset. Had some fruit for breakfast and immediately felt like shit. Had a bowl of chicken, rice and cabbage that night and woke up this morning feeling a little better, but I guess not quite. Still haven’t eaten anything, but just did a 4 mile walk and drank a big bottle of sugarfree Gatorade. It was soon after this that disaster struck. I regret to inform you fatties that I did not make it all the way home before disemboweling at least 3/4 of my stomach contents in a way that would only make Nurgle himself proud. Made it home and just showered and threw my stuff in the laundry.I’m wondering what caused this stomach bug: the only changes I’ve made lately is I’ve been taking 20g of collagen every day which I’ve read can cause upset stomach and diarrhea, and a rather suspect banana I had in my yogurt (also with the collagen). My dad and I have eaten the same foods, generally, since I’ve gotten sick and he feels fine.Stats: 180.3lb this morning, 178.1lb after evacuating my stomach contents via the rectum… damn near killed me.
>>77462159Oh, and I was taking 2,000iu Vitamin D as per Vitamin-D-schizo to try and attain a small level of crypto-savvyness as my family is lower middle class. Could also be that?sage goes in all fields
Just a reminder, If you are a ketotard, you are on the same IQ level as cooking with jack. He went keto, and look at him he's stil a fat retard that cannot cook.
>>77461711funny how you say that when the vast majority of rightiods are literally obese.
>>77462177Eating animals is morally right,
r8 my keto meal bros. im eatin so healthy rn. i cant wait to be skinny and get so many bitches!
Veganism seems to be the diet of the mentally ill.
>>77462122sorry to rain on your parade but that guy is legitimately schizophrenic. D-vitamins won't cure his issues, pretty much only anti-psychotics will
>>77462095>I was not aware of such a schizo.He hijacked the thread and put D-vitamin in it a short while ago as well.D-vitamin is overrated, but it has been shilled hard the past ten-fifteen years or so. I'm surprised it's still a thing.
>>77461908>buy a glucose monitor device from your pharmacy, Amazon, or wherever.don't do this>>77461802just go to your doctor and take a hba1c. it measures your blood sugar the past 2-3 months. far better measurement than spot measurements
>>77462159i'm sorry>>77462172i always tell you guys to visit a lab before supplementing but no, it doesn't cause diarrhea.must be the other supplement or the sus banana>>77462203but anon, i am what you describe as the Vitamin D schizo.why do you think i'm psychotic?
>>77459778Going to stop jacking off until i start eating right, loosing weight, and going to the gym.
>>77462189What is that shit m8
>>77462250What url blocker do you use? i tried appblock but you only get to block three fucking websites with the free version.
>>77462372Just don't touch your peepee bro lmao
>>77462372Do I really need one? Going to start tomorrow, need to get one last wank in.
>>77462212fasting glucose measurements are right next to HbA1c for diagnosing the beetus and i assumed he is an American with no insurance so a trip to doctor would be expensive
>arguing with retards about cico and ketoJust eat less move more dumbfuckst. Keto chad who has his hair
the jews dont want you to know this but you can just live off a pack of string cheese a day. 720 calories, 72g protein
Went to mcdonalds to end my 72 h fast (well technically 77 h, I was a little late in refeeding) and I didn't have the liquid shits until I got home. Starting work next week so I'll probably have to quit fasting, but I'll try keeping on with CICO, and keto if it's possible. Keto is hard because of work lunch though, so most likely not possible. But I can keep the carbs otherwise to a minimum, and eat somewhat healthily instead. Planning on about a 1000-1500 cal deficit to get rid of the last kgs, only 4 kg left to hit 90 kg which is my second goal. Went down from 102 kg to 94 kg in 3 weeks, albeit 2 kg of that is most likely glycogen and water weight.
>>77462544I lived eating only pasta more or less for a month once. With ketchup. It worked.Honestly biggest issue was constipation.Probably cheapest month I've ever had.
>>77461835>regular size bag of chipsIf the purpose was a caloric deficit from walking you fucked upMy house is a temple and chips do not pass the threshold into my domain
>>77462608Im doing alternate day fasting and have lost 10lbs but before I continue I want to fix my sleep schedule because I dont want to exacerbate my issues. Its always some combination of wide awake/not comfy/weird heart problems every few nights or so and I constantly wake up in the middle of the night but that was partially caused by a noisy environment which im not in anymore. Ive disregarded my circadian rhythm my whole life and i think my brain is just being autistic about excepting that night time is sleep time now even though ive been getting in bed at 10pm every night for 2 years now. Walking for six hours should let me sleep for at least 7 hours straight right? I barely made it home I cant walk anymore.
>>77461952>iced honey bunsare those just doughnuts with honey in the dough?
>>77462751A honey bun has twice the calories of the typical donut. It's one of the least healthy things you could possibly eat.
>>77462765weware they twice as tasty as doughnuts though?
Weight goes down WAGMI
Is 9 lbs a month a good/healthy rate of weight loss? I started ozempic a month ago and it's been really helpful for avoiding impulsive eating.
>>77462781They are just a very thick heavy pastry with a shitload of sugar and a tiny bit of honey flavor. A single one makes an ordinary man feel sick afterward if he eats it all at once. They are also very cheap, and found in every gas station and vending machine. They are a meme with fat retail and manual labor workers in the US, because they are the go-to bang for your buck convenience option for a break snack.
>>77462837docs recommend ~7lbs per month. depending on how fat you are, you can go higher.first month would probably have more water weight loss so you're still within "normal".
>>77462837Losing 9lbs in a month is healthy
>>77462842grim
>>77462844I'm 230 now looking to get down to around 170, so it seems like a good start
>>77462849It's not grim, they're so fucking good
>weight loss is too slow>can't handle hubger so can't make it fasterit's over
Can one of you niggers make a new thread
>>77462975Coward
ashmatic anons, did losing weight help you with asthma/breathing/lungs?
>>77463116>>77463116>>77463116>>77463116
>>77462032i like it too