>Who is /fat/ for?For cookie crunchers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>77459778
>>77460179
Threadly reminder, that:WAGMI
we should share more looksmaxxing stuff on this thread
>do measurements for navy fat calculator>selecting female gives me 20% bf>selecting male gives me 8% bf, with the same measurements>looking at myself i clearly am in between these twomake it make sense
>>77463143The male measurement for waist is around your navel, aka your WAIST. Too many people conflate waist with hips because of pant sizes, but pants haven't been worn on the waist in over 50 years.
status:5kg lost / 38 targetted (125kg starting weight, 120 now)5th week of gym starting, i am actually more and more eager to go to the gym every day and getting a gradual likeness for it, cardio is still a monotonous pain but i am getting by, i'm currently walking treadmill 40m on inclined slope at 5km/h and ditched the shitty bike they've got at the gym. adding a 3rd day a week of muscle training starting today. feels like i hit a really bad plateau as the scales havent moved below 120kg for quite some time (3 weeks) but i'll keep goingwgmi
Fatty ContestZatarra81.8kg
Well, time to cut 100 calories from my daily budget, didn't lose enough weight this week, really sucks.Knew this was coming, actually tempted to cut more and just go all in til end of the year doing fasting and shit, but I don't want to look like those flaccid people at the end of a fast weight loss
Exercise bike passes the time faster than treadmill
>>77463248it does but i easily lose patience with the intensity and lower it... id rather have that shit forced upon me with the treadmill where i am less tempted to touch the button (only lowering it to like, 3km/h at the midpoint to catch a breather), i sweat a LOT more on that thing than on the bike so i'll take the efficiency over less tedium
>>77463168Yes anon I measured my waist at the same place for both male and female. I measured hips at widest for the female one but the neck and waist were the same across both.
I ate like 700 extra calories today cause I was depressed Let's just call it a cheat day....I can get one cheat day after a month I guess
>>77455143>>77461064103.9 kg today after peeing+shitting+sweating in the gym for an hour
>>77463306don't bring yourself down too much, it's only going to make you more depressedjust eat 700 cals less tomorrow or something to even up
>>77463347I ate some more desu just gonna fast tomorrow -_-
is 2200kcal today too much? 120kg 183cm 29yo, just worked out idk if i should cut back or eat that amount
It really sucks being on a 1500 kcal budget in America.
>>77463143I have 4% higher body fat than the navy calculator told me (DEXA scan verified, plus claude and gemini weighed in based on photos and agreed with DEXA). I measured at the navel properly too.Still a better way to track progress than weight though.
>>77463116intermittant fasting, the end.
>>77463402low fat quarkchicken breastboiled vegetablesberries, frozen1000-1400 kcals a day, with 70-100protein is pretty cheap and easy to make
7 day fast progress. 6 pounds lost. Dont understand why you phaggots don't fast. About to feast in 2 hours. Fuck yeah
Ate a pint of ice cream, but it was low carb, a bunch of cured meat sausages that had little filler, and I might have a couple double bacon cheeseburgers to round out the night. Damn it feels good to be keto.
Been in a sex deficit for 32 years, when will my waifu become real?
>>77463440>70-100proteinnot enough
>>77463463did u not move at all? you should have lost a lot more
>>77463505this nigga thinks we are training for world's strongest man. It is more than enough
I just masturbated. Should I go for a run?
>>77463463Because my food addiction is not as bad as yours that I don’t need to ritualistically binge to get anywhere
>>77463116Remember: No carbs.
>>77463198fat
>>774635022 more weeks
i can't fucking stop this plateau at 200I even started lifting weights a bit and nothing seemed to happen. I eat rice and chicken once a day as my meal 5 days out of the week and somehow I just yo-yo between 196 and 202I'm less stringent with the diet than I was when I was going from 230 to 200 but I thought I would just slow the weight loss, not stop it entirely. Shit just makes me doom, I feel like my diet now is more restrictive than what normal people eat (at least compared to my relatives, none of whom are fatties) but my goal was to get at least 20 pounds lighter than I am now, yet my current diet is struggling to maintain 200.
>>77463565More exercise, change rice to salad, try intermediate fasting
>>77463565Are you tracking your calories? Burning more than your new TDEE? Tried eating something different…? Might even be worth eating a bit more for a few days and going back to cutting calories if your metabolism is that fucked. Plateaus happen though, don’t freak.
>>77463142Minoxidil for thicker eyebrows and thicker eyelashes
>>77463554bro... dont make me cry.. at least use the term wide...
>>77463590What if I have caveman trashy eyebrows?
I'm not fat anymore, but how do I unsubscribe from the alcoholism?
>>77463598Same logic as calories, just say stop. Alcohol cannot enter your body without consent
>10 pounds from goal weight but decide to pivot amd eat at maint and recomp>feel like a slob eating at maintwhat the FUCK
>>77463571>>77463568>Are you tracking calories?No. My diet strategy was to calculate a single meal that I liked then eat it with the same portions every single day for eternity. The monotony is easier to stand than weighing and managing different foods. Shit takes forever and I don't have the patience for it.>Burning more than your new TDEE?Evidently not>Plateaus happenThis has been months, so it's definitely a dietary problem.>Tried eating something different?I have a strong feeling that even though it feels like my "less stringent" diet is still more restrictive than most people's, I'm deviating farther than I realize and it's ruining my health. I repeatedly get comments about how restrictive my diet is, but maybe just normies being retarded normies and I'm still eating like a hog half the time.>More exerciseWhat do people typically do for lifting weights? I don't know if I can do every day, shit gets sore.>Change rice to salad / intermediate fastingI don't know if I can give up even more. I cut out sugary drinks, my fast food habits, snacks, and really most foods in general. This is annoying because chicken and rice all the time SHOULD be enough to be a healthy normal weight. There are lots of normally-sized fit people who eat like that, I'm just fucking up horribly apparently. I wish I was more retarded so I could blame it on metabolism and give up
>>77463624If that happened to me, I'd have my bloodwork done and consult a licensed dietician with a positive proven track record.
>>77463565>I eat riceThere's your problem. Carbs are the enemy of weight loss.
>>77463565Rolling 72 hours fast with keto meals inbetween would be my advice. Just remember to take electrolytes. Sure to break any plateau.Otherwise I'd do something extreme like only 1000 cals a day or something, like a 200 g steak with a bag of frozen low carb vegetables and an omelette a day.
>>77463565>>77463624the truth is you cant lose weight without being hungry all the time
>>77463507Laid in my bed all day>>77463530Cope
>>77463565FAST you stupid nigger
Fuck I'm so happy today, I broke my 2 week plateau finally!
My nipples fucking burn. How do I get more resilient nipples? All I was doing was walking wtf.
>>77463685I remember when I would jump a lot at parties and my nipples would literally bleed when I came home
>>77463681Wagmi bro
Tastes too good
>>77463654You seem like a person who has never successfully lost weight.You have that inverted. The only way to lose weight is to not be hungry.
>>77463701how many kcal how much protein
>>77463706They have horrible macros but I just eat them because I can, I have like a 5-6k calorie maximum due to fasting
i shit on monday, once a week
>>77463704If you’re going from 30% body fat to 15% it shouldn’t be that uncomfortable. If you’re going from 15% to 10% most people are going to experience significant hunger no matter how they manage it. In pic rel, I doubt it is keto specifically that made her feel better, but no longer eating 700g of sugar a day.
>>77463704shes still fat.
>>77463720Eliminating carbs eliminates hunger.
>>77463143>women usually have fat around their waist last while men have fat there first>there are some distribution variations between individuals so a one size fits all calculator is bound to be wrong on at least some people
>>77463685is it due to friction, gyno, or both?i have no experience with this but maybe try finding more comfy clothing?
>>77463715lmao
fatty contestfatretard175.2
>>77463624have you tried eating less and exercising more. You are just eating more and moving less than 'normal people'
>>77463715>43g carb, 20g sugar in 79g servingjesus, that is 25% sugar.
>>77463116I've been starting and failing diets for 10 years now, last time it was last year, I took the time to plan and think things through, only to realize there's not a lot of thinking needed, just willpower.Please, God, I just want to lose weight, be normal and healthy, have my own family, please give me the strenght to not fail this time.Today is day one.
>>77463806Tell your friends and your family that you are dieting, then it also becomes a matter of trying to not disappoint your family/friends and embarrassing yourself
>>77463806fat nigga used slopgpt to write his weight loss affirmationsome of us aren't gonna make it LMAO
>>77463715May I suggest you learn to make your own? That is just way too much sugar.
>>77463565i was in a "plateau" for months but it turned out i just had to eat even less because i'm a manlet and 1500 calories are close to my TDEE of 1850 so counting in label errors, it meant i just had to eat 1200 calories max instead. weight started going down again.
>>77463624>>Are you tracking calories?>No. My diet strategy was to calculate a single meal that I liked then eat it with the same portions every single day for eternity. The monotony is easier to stand than weighing and managing different foods. Shit takes forever and I don't have the patience for it.you eat the same every day, but calculating how many calories are in that meal is too much effort for you? stop guessing and start counting, you already know what you need to do.
>>77463821Apparently decreasing calories all at once means your metabolism adapts sooner to the changes and reaches omeostasis. Seems the most effective way is to decrease little by little as you reach plateaus, aswell as add cardio. I had it described as "playing chess against your body". If you do everything from the start your body knows all your moves and acts optimally, you are supposed to take turns to "outsmart" it
>>77463765NTA but it's tight clothing+friction from movement
>>77463806watch andrew tates iron mind
>>77463830>Calculating how many calories is too much for you?Repeatedly calculating the minor variances in the same meal every day is too much, yes. I can already barely stand having to just cook, the biggest threat to my waistline is not how tasty goyslop is, it's how little of my day it takes to grab. When I fell off the wagon on my more strict regimen, I actually enjoyed it less than the rice and chicken, it was just convenient. I think eating stuff I never calculated at all is a much bigger problem.
What is the ideal rapist physique and HOW do I attain it?
>>77463831then they tell you >it's real simple, bro, just eat less and move more lmaofuck 'em desu
>>774638493g test1g trenaromatase inhibitor of choice250g protein per day
>>77463849Going by my anime, fat and bald. The fatter the better.
I wanted to give an update. So far I've lost 27 pounds. When I stepped on the scale, I couldn't believe it. I knew I'd lost a little, but I didn't realize it was that much.What started this whole thing was that one weekend (About three months ago,) I had an awful pain in my abdomen. I went to a doctor because I thought my gall bladder had burst or something. He told me that I had gall stones and that my blood pressure was through the roof. So I've been dieting and exercising ever sense.Well, a sort of miracle happened. Last week I went in to get my gall bladder checked with an ultrasound and the doctor was dumbfounded. He said that he could see where my gall stones had actually broken up and that I had begun to pass them. My abdominal pain has completely went away.I am on blood pressure medicine, but I can also tell from daily cardio that I'm feeling a little better over time. I know this is gay as fuck, but I plugged in my old Nintendo Wii and I've been playing the Just Dance series every day for about 30 minutes to an hour. One thing I didn't expect from all this is that whole meme about how your dick gets bigger for every 20 pounds you lose. I don't know if it's the bloodflow or the weight loss, but my dick is like... Significantly thicker than it usually is. When I pulled it out the other day, my girl's eyes were locked on it.The temptation to go get cheese burgers and ice cream is a little harder now than it was when I first started. But I need to keep my eyes on the prize. I want a longer life and a healthier body than I want a donut.
>>77463863God speed anon
>>77463841Being a lazy person myself, I find that steaming frozen veggies and air frying meat is probably the easiest way to cook. It doesn't take too long to prepare and you get a fairly healthy meal. Probably could airfry the frozen veggies too depending.
Straight up sausage party in here.Going back to the double bacon cheeseburgers later.
>>77463889This, also buy pic related. It is to use in air friers so you don't need to clean it.
>>77463831Yeah this, your body adapts by lowering your metabolism to starvation mode if you go into a massive deficit. I'm eating 1200-1300 calories right now and gaining muscle while losing weight. No cardio either, just doing 2 weight lifting exercises per day. Down about 10lbs so far so it's roughly 1lb per week.I'm not eating any less either, I've just cut out snacking between meals and replaced instant food with whole food. If I do get hungry between meals I eat some fruit, greek yogurt, watermelon, zucchini with salsa etc.
>>77463934Starvation mode is heavily exaggerated, your body can't dramatically reduce the calories it needs.
>>77463942It absolutely can, you stop moving around, you stop exercising, you feel cold all the time, you have no energy to do anything except lie in one spot all day long.You don't notice the significant reduction in activity because you're in agreement with your body, you notice it if you fight it and it feels like you're trying to climb up a mountain with willpower.
>>77463954Then it is not a magical starvation mode, it is just you being less active.
>>77463970Your willpower is tied to what mode your body is in. If it's trying to protect it self because it thinks it's starving then you being less active is counter to what we're trying to achieve here.I know you're just trying to achieve an argument because you'd rather do that then lose weight, but the rest of us are here for a different reason.
>>77463818It's just once a week no big deal
we're back
>>77463942>it has never happened to me so it's not realfuck off
Fuck whomever said plain greek yogurt tastes good. Shit tastes like spoiled milk and goes awful with fruit.I should've bought the one sweetened with stevia.
>>77463942You're delusional. Metabolism can drop by a huge amount. Pic related.
>>77463831>Seems the most effective way is to decrease little by little as you reach plateausThe most effective way to lose weight is eliminating carb from your diet. It boosts metabolism instead of lowering metabolism. +50kcal/day average per 10% reduction in carbs.
>>77464042you need to quit the sugar m80
>>77463118
>>77464113I don't eat sugar, salty, savory, sour is my jam. But plain greek yogurt is just bleh without something to pair with and it does not go with fruit like regular yogurt.I might try putting it on zucchini slices or see how it goes with salsa.
>>77464063I am going to be honest, I think slowing metabolism is probably the secret to longevity. Considering how breathing oxygen slowly kills us to burn stuff inside us for energy, logically speaking you probably want to prevent as much oxidative stress as possible.
>>77464184Some amount of oxidative stress/free radicals are healthy for you, reducing it down to zero is also bad. Also humans literally cannot produce ATP without oxygen.
>>77464127that's weird but you can just add your own stevia
Fatty Contestfatpornstar 94.1 kg
>weigh myself>go take a shit>weigh myself again>lost 2.5lbs
Are these any good?>PrimeYes I know but they're on sale right now and I'm tempted
>>77464218the weight goes to next line
>>77464233Just buy a protein powder
is maltodextrin ok as a sweetener or nah
Down to 160lb from 170. Still got 25lbs left to lose and it sucks, couldn’t imagine having to cut from the 200s. Thank god for modern medicine though cuz my doc got me on dat new jewish alien medicine. #GoingThroughChanges #BuildingBackBetter
>>77464228>2.5lbsand you didn't take a photo of the specimen you left in the bowl for us?
>>77464274whats wrong with regular sugar? you're not on keto are you
>>77463116reminder to test your Vitamin D and to supplement as needed even if you're already supplementing it.hunger associated with Vitamin D deficiency>Appetite disturbances were significantly associated with increased odds of Vitamin D deficiency, even after controlling for depression and other confounders. However, due to the cross-sectional design, causality cannot be inferred. Prospective studies are needed to clarify this association's directionality and underlying mechanisms.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1499404625002660Vitamin D helping in weight loss>After using vit D supplementation for 6 weeks, WT (weight), WC (waist circumference), and body mass index (BMI) were decreased significantly and serum vit D increased significantly compared to control grouphttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6071442/us fatties having lower vitamin D>High prevalence of vitamin D (VD) deficiency in obese subjects is a well-documented finding, most probably due to volumetric dilution into the greater volumes of fat, serum, liver, and muscle, even though other mechanisms could not completely be excluded, as they may contribute concurrentlyhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6780345/current daily supplementation recommendation is bullshit>This regression line revealed that 600 IU of vitamin D per day achieves that 97.5% of individuals will have serum 25(OH)D values above 26.8 nmol/L rather than above 50 nmol/L which is currently assumed. It also estimated that 8895 IU of vitamin D per day may be needed to accomplish that 97.5% of individuals achieve serum 25(OH)D values of 50 nmol/L or more. As this dose is far beyond the range of studied doses, caution is warranted when interpreting this estimate. Regardless, the very high estimate illustrates that the dose is well in excess of the current RDA of 600 IU per day and the tolerable upper intake of 4000 IU per day [1].https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4210929/
2nd week of Maintenance came to an endI have to regulate. I have to fast today
>>77464200That's kind of the conundrum, we need to burn shit for fuel, but it wears down the machinery.
>>77464274Worse because it metabolizes even faster than sugar does. Has a higher glycemic load and index too. If you want a sweetner that's similar to sugar, I would advise allulose.
Got in a fight with my wife, ate 3000 calories of fast food. I'm so fucking dumb.
>>77464424r u the same anon who complained abt his wife the other day?
When I measure my body for the navy BMI calc, how exactly do I measure naveldo I puff the gut out for a worse case scenario measurement or what>Just be natural retardI've sucked it in every minute of every day for decades, I don't even know what natural is. anyone got a video of a somewhat-tubby individual (5 11, 200) doing the measurements?
>>77464458>I've sucked it in every minute of every day for decades, I don't even know what natural is.just don't suck it in lmaopushing out the gut is its own distinct feeling. lie on your back and take a deep breath through pushing out your gut. that is diaphragmatic breathing. you don't want to be pushing it out nor sucking it in. just relax the muscles.
>be 88kg at 178cm and still losing weight>mom says I shouldn't lose more weight and should just keep going to gym because I'll look worse at a lower weightI knew I'm the only person I could trust but still, it kinda makes me sad I was right, why are parents like this bros?
>belly fat pinch is even smallera woosh is incoming. i can measure it!
fatty contesttimetolockin243.40
>1200 calories deficit at end of night>not particularly hungry>eat anyway out of fear of malnutrition Why can't I get some bullshit eating disorder
>>77464588what are you doing, bro
>>77464477It's possible they simply don't know or understand anything.>get told to stop cutting at 163lbs>cut down another five pounds>they tell me I look greatIt was like my family completely forgot I was losing weight in the interim. They have no idea what anorexia or an unhealthy skinny weight actually looks like.Ignore them, try not to talk to them about it, keep going.
idk anonsit's true that fat is super satiating so i've been trying to make diets out of it, things like salads with dressing and soft boiled eggs, drumsticks with skin on and whatnot.But i've been thinking, how effective would just a half cup of oil be a day? Dare I dream to spawn a meme of fatties shitting themselves trying it out for themselves, of anons shrieking about saturated oils and heart attacks, of an easy and cheap diet?
>still at 240lb since the start of the yearI do look slimmer so I guess the lifting is working.
>>77464063Isn't that just because they lost the weight? Fat itself is a living tissue that requires calories, never mind the weight of some fatties making them do Olympic level deadlifts just standing up.
where is Dzonathan? i miss his blogs>>77464629way ahead of youi tried it before. it really is satiating but it is also super hard to drink. it tastes really bad and i didn't find foods that go very well with it.best i found are boiled eggs mashed with seasoning of choice (https://www.loveandlemons.com/zaatar-spice/). but it really needs bread to taste good.
>>77464635>never mind the weight of some fatties making them do Olympic level deadlifts just standing up.lmao
>>77464635Preclinical research on animal models and human heart cells has shown that successfully correcting these mutated genes can cause the heart tissue to naturally remodel itself, shrink back down, and lose its diseased characteristics.These therapies are transitioning into early human clinical trials.While highly promising, they are not yet widely available standard treatments.
I think I may legitimately be possessed by one of those Chinese hungry ghosts. I'm always hungry whether I've eaten or not, no matter how much I eat. And I swear if I hear another "lel just eat when you're hungry, sometimes I have to force myself to eat" from a skinny mf I'm gonna
>>77464639I wasn't expecting a serious reply but I was going to eventually try it out myself so thanks for the link. It's nice to know there are pioneers in stupid stuff before I try it.I'm thinking it'd be easier if I used a fat thats solid at room temperature right out of the fridge like tallow and just swallowed it in chunks before it melted, or just mix a bit into coffee and drink it slowly all day. Obviously i'm going to have to learn about which fats are, in fact, healthy, or if that really is a thing or not before I try.I'll experiment and then post my results.
>weigh this morning after pissing and before shower>189 lbs>go to work and eat 460 cal parfait and 2 sugar free red bulls>come home and weigh self>183 lbsAlright this isn't adding up. I did morning weigh in with 2 different scales, used same scales when I came home. You telling me my body retained 5 lbs of bullshit for no reason?
>>77464680are you dehydrated? how much did you drink
>>77464704Not dehydrated. I drink water periodically throughout the day even have one of those jugs with the time stencils in but I piss about as much as I drink too
>>77463198its me againlost .6kg (thats like 1.2lbs?) today, a bit hungry but i feel good about myself, this plateau might finally be ending as i break through the 110kgs territory. hoping to near 118kg by the end lf the week!wagmi
>>77464658do you have a moment to talk about our savior, Vitamin D?test your levels. dieting used to be torture with the constant hunger until i fixed my Vitamin D levels. it took a lot of high doses but now i can easily maintain sub 1500 calories. i feel full and satiated and can only eat when i'm hungry like the memes.i'm unintentionally doing OMAD because i'm full for ~24 hours.although i have not found a solution for thinking about food, i can't actually eat the food i think about since i'm so full. my body refuses it.i think i can even eat slop although i have not tested it thoroughly.what i do know is zero soda makes me hungry and reach 2000 calories to be full so i had to quit it.>>77464729good luck! no need to feel hungry unless you're in a big deficit. join my Vitamin D cult by getting a simple blood test done!
>fried chicken but I made the crumb out of pork crackle and almond flour so I'll still lose loads of weightMan, keto is awesome.Gonna smash a couple of double bacon cheeseburgers later to kick back after a hard day of getting high and playing WoW.
>Reduced my calories intake yesterday as weight loss stalled for a week>Got the woosh today and lost all the weight I should have by yesterdayFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK but I'll keep this reduced intake for the week
>>77464839I'm on a plateau right nowI hope my woosh comes soon
>>77464839how much weight loss to classify as a whoosh
>>77464839i always compare my longest plateau to my current one before cutting intake because as soon as i'm starting to get annoyed with it, it breaks.>>77464868fingers crossed for u anon
>>77464477She's not wrong, size makes you look stronger, and it actually does make you stronger. Though 88kg is a bit much for your height.
>Weight stalled in the low 70kgs for about 10 days>Today 76.4Lets gooooo!
>lose a ton of weight>looking way better>still desperately crave that calorie raping chocolate that I used to eat every night
>>77464477I think its just that people don't realise you go from Clearly overweight > a bit excess fat > lean > too lean > skellyI think she's worried you'll take it too farat 178cm and 86~ kg you'll be in a position where you could just fuck the diet and recomp for 5 years but even that's not really ideal.
>>77464911I'd say .5 kgs or more after a week plateau is a woosh
Is there actual proof that fat is more satiating than carbs per calorie, over the course of say 24 hours?
>>77464477She like every layperson starting out doesn't really know how fitness works and what different weights look like on different people.She probably sees her son losing a ton of weight and (seemingly) hyper focusing on loss.She probably just wants to you be "healthy" and strong so that's why she's suggesting you focus on lifting and getting strong vs very slim. She likely isn't familiar with a lean and fit body type for you. She can only imagine overt muscle since you've always been a bigger person.The bigger take away is that she likely has good intentions and cares, and you are also an independent adult and can choose what you want to do with your life and body. You have bodily autonomy.If you want you can reassure her about the process and that you're being careful etc. That might assuage some of the worry.Either way, wish you luck with it all.
Lost 4 kgs in the 5 weeks. My cock looking larger cuz of less pubic fat and my triceps being much more visible unironically boost my confidence more than having less belly fat.
>>77464965Yes.
I'll attempt my first 72hrs fastOh Lord, grant me strength
Do you ever stall on your fat loss?
>>77464991ganbatte>>77465045you mean like hit a plateau? ye
>>77464965I am not a ketolard, the fat on its own is not really that satiating, which is why when I did try keto I was actually gaining weight since cheese is keto and you can't eat as much as you want.But when it comes to, stuff which is very fatty while also having a good proteic component like bacon or salmon, it's not necessarily satiating but psychologically it is much more fulfilling, right now I have about an equal caloric intake of carbs and fat and probably the carbs will go down a bit more.
>>77465049>ganbatteArigato Anon-sama
>>77465065ofc!
>>77464639Eww brownslop
>>77464680Not seeing why you're weight twice at different times during the same day
>>77464991Good luck bro
>only gained .6 lb after my refeed yesterday. After fasting for a weekFeels amazing mang
how to increase wrist size while losing weight to not look malnourished/sick
Does a caloric deficit fuck with your sleepI've started sleeping like shit like two months after starting my weight loss regimen, most I'd get out of a night are 6 hours while I could easily sleep 7-8 before that
>>77465120yes
>weight increased half a pound it's over
>>77465120This happened to me too, quitting caffeine fixed it.
>>77463116Lost 8.6 pounds since my last weigh in. 285.4 pounds currently at 6'2". See you nerds at the end of the month when I lose another 8
>doing really good with weight loss and diet for months>break down and buy my old favorite chips or candy one night>gorge on it>tastes like sawdust and gives me no positive feeling at all>afterwards feel angry at myself for failing and disgusted with the massive calories i ate>six months pass>rinse repeati'm starting to think i have brain damage
>>77465174not him but how am i supposed to stay in deficit without the caffeine?>>77465098>>77465180good job>>77465105your pic is mostly bullshit but he photoshopped his forearm muscles so do deadhangs. one armed if they're too easy. next level is weighted one armed.
>>77465195can we fatsos even do such exercises?
>>77465195Thanks mang
>>77465180I lose 8 pounds in a week step it up bud
>>77465201good pointthe problem is forearm curls are setting yourself up for carpal tunnel syndrome so the training options are limited.i guess holding a stick and moving it left and right also works.i can't find the video but basically you hold a broom pointing upwards then you let it drop to the left or right and bring it back to neutral slowly.if it is too hard, remove the broom head and only use the shaft.
I hate the guy who talked about dark chocolate almonds in here. Idk why I bought them but they taste like chit
>>77465120Taking magnesium pills fixed it for me
>decided it was enough after a decade and make a lifestyle change>reach healthy weight>people around you keep saying ''dont get too skinny!!!!''What the fuck is this? Anyone else experience this? Do people have such a warped image of what a regular body is supposed to look like? Instead of being complimented that i don't look like a 6 months pregnant male anymore, i get this as feedback instead.
>>77465230Don't read too much into it anon. They are probably trying to be nice but they don't want to be weird
>>77465230my family tells me to lose weight and that i'm a fatty. my bmi is 28.
>>77465230>Do people have such a warped image of what a regular body is supposed to look like?This and/or crab bucket mentality.
the fat on my tummy looks even more disgusting now wtf
>>77465230Depends on how they're saying it, in a concerned way or in like a tongue in cheek way
>>77465250how so? is it more squishy and less firm?
>apparently have to do some strength training while losing weight>blessed with fucking poland syndrome and am missing an entire pecFuck this I'll just do cardio and be a dyel. If I ever get into a fight I'll just run away.
>>77464629>it's true that fat is super satiating so i've been trying to make diets out of it, things like salads with dressing and soft boiled eggs, drumsticks with skin on and whatnot.so try this - get an untrimmed brisket from costco or your butcher. trim the fat off put that in one pile, portion up the meat into whatever sizes and freeze those. take the fat trimmings, put them into a saucepan with a bit of salt and turn it on low, cover and let it render a few hours until you have cooked protein chunks in oil. strain, freeze the oil (tallow) and press the oil from the cooked remains which you can put into a baggie and into the freezer.
>>77465255i work out at home and did lateral raises today and it just looked disgusting, probably also because of loose skin or somethingi wanted to chop it off
Why am I so sleepy all the time? Is 7 hours a sleep not enough?
>>77465260part 2 - thaw a chunk of brisket, cut into 1 inch cubes, salt them and fry in a bit of the tallow until brown on the outside. add beef stock and turn down low to simmer for 2-3 hours. drain the juice from the meat into a saucepan. put some of the frozen fat remnants into a blender with a bit of the meat juice/soup stock, then pour the blended mixture back into the remaining stock. this should thicken up into instant gravy, add salt+pepper+whatever side you want to gravy up and serve.this gravy, containing lots of collagen and gelatin, is super tasty and keto af
I weighed in at a new low before work this morning after a 2 week stall, and I just took a massive shit once I got into the office. I wonder how much lower my weight is now
>I got sick>I slept poorly>I lost weightCertainly, some misfortunes turn out to be blessings in disguise.
A can of tunaA can of beans100g of cooked rice420 calories with 30g of proteinnot too shabby for something that takes about 3 minutes to prepare, right?
>>77465294>cooked rice>3 minutes to prepare
>>77465297I just assumed everyone kept a bunch of rice cooked in their fridge to dispense in random meals like thisI cook rice once or twice a week max and then keep it ready
>>77465271You need more iron
>>77465299only restaurants have a bunch of cooked rice ready to go
>>77465299you're eating bacteria
>1400 calories of slop yesterday to feel full>1100 calories of non-slop today to feel fullit seems eating slop really makes you eat more
>>77463440He said America nigger. Quark doesn't exist here really. I've never seen it
>>77464477My parents say the same shit to me, meanwhile my mom has a bmi of like 20 lol. Stones and glass house
>>77465303More nutrition
>>77465312Slop is usually higher in ingredients with higher glycemic index. Blood sugar rise and insulin in tandem then cause the effect of feeling hungry despite already eating.
>>77464941Was doing a carb loading day the other day and combined it with a cheat meal (doing psmf like diet) and I decided to do it with taco bell which was historically my slop of choice. Spent 20 dollars on it and it was just not that appetizing anymore when I used to eat similar multiple nights a week, and it took me like 3 hours to finish it. It gets better. I'm not craving it at all after that
Fatty Contest Eumenes 89.7kg192cm
>>77464477I'm just under 90kg and 192cm / 6'2 and I still have a bit of flab. I could get down to 80 before I'm even remotely undernourished. You, therefore, have a lot of space to play with. Ignore them.
>>77465352>>77465355never lifted?
>plateauing after just 2 weeks of dietingDIETOVER
>>77465400Just quit carbs
Can someone tell me where the waist is? It should be above the navel no? Yet half of the stuff online says it's below the navel where the hips are? Which is it?
>>77465412I've always thought it's where you want your pants to sit. Women are stupid and wear stupid high pants, don't listen to them.
>>77465412I'm pretty sure it sits right above the hip. Like the bottom of a belt is touching hip bone.
>>77465400The initial massive weight loss is mostly water. Right now you're still burning fat if you're in a deficit, but it's essentially being replaced by other water, which will whoosh out again after the psuedo-stall. Just keep going. Soon you'll start pissing nonstop and lose 5-10 lbs in a day.
>>77465230It's a courtesy notification from NormieOS that your actions are disturbing the previously established social order.
>>77465412that picture is correct, measure at the navel. pants are true waist, they just say that because it's what people are accustomed to. retards would be confused if every pair of pants became a nazi showing H/H for height and hips.
>>77465259I just found out about this. I’ve had this weird chest shape for years: one manboob, one not manboob. I really hope it’s just gyno in the fatter one desu… my entire left side is for sure weaker than the right.
>>77465435pants aren't true waist, fuck
Fatty Contesthitodenashi137lbsended up without food for a while and ate like a starving animal when i got some and undid any progress in the end. oops
>>77465423>>77465426So what do you call this then if the waist is down below?
>>77465447women body shapes are a meme, just absolute chaos with no standards anywhere. for women the waist is measured at their thinnest point. all modern pants and shorts sit on the hips for both men and women, unless they are intentionally wearing some high riding hipster shit
>>77465400And this is why I don't use scales
>>77465412If you're measuring your waistline it's at the bellybutton. If you're very fat you will get the most accurate measurement laying on your back so your belly isn't pulled downward by gravity.
After all, why shouldn't I?Why shouldn't I just throw out the bathroom scale and never deal with plateaus ever again?
>>77465195>>not him but how am i supposed to stay in deficit without the caffeine?I started sugar/caffiene-free chewing gum and drinking crystal light instead of caffeinated sodas.
>>77465475Yeah. It's just that easy. Weight loss is inevitable. The numbers just fuck with your brain.
>>77465475It’s a useful metric anon, but it only shows up or down… and the finish line is in front of you
>>77465092>>77464704It was solved. Body had insane water retention the day before. Weighed in at 182 this morning. Gonna cut another 500 cal starting today. I just want to get down to 155 and call it there
>>77465294What kind of beans
I'm 314lbs today. I vow to be below 300 by Sept 1
I've been walking every day for the past few weeks. Feels good, and I think sun's doing small favors to my face.
>>77465437It's fucking over for us. Don't let that stop you from getting fit anyway. Good luck nigger.
>>77465558Are you like 3m tall and going on a two week fast
>>77465583I've just been eating my meat and veggies.
>>77465351Isn't taco bell responsible for killing everyone with their salmonella death lettuce?
>>77465554Good job anon. You look very handsome
>>77465312>+700 slop dinner for a total of 1800 calories>can fill my gut more and have to pull myself away from food>still haven't had dessert yetit's over
>>77465412depends what you're measuring for. navy calculator specifically says navel.
>>77465693Don't eat dessert. Also try doing extended fasting to help break your food addiction
I need some kind of plan. I got a fitbit thinking it would help me but it's only useful for tracking. I eat like a glutton one week then fast another, exercise 6 days one week doing 4 or 5 mountain hikes for one week, and then the following week I spend sitting on my ass. How the heck do people manage to be consistent?
>>77463519Sure, but next time jerk it after a run. Makes it a lot more satisfying.
>>77465475If you're not seeing a drop every other day when you wake up then you're not dieting hard enough
For food cravings what does it mean if I crave oats? I really just want a big bowl of unsweetened oatmeal after work most days.
>>77465783Nigga had to drop in the unsweetened part lmao
>>77465796Is there something funny about my post anon?
>>77465810ROFL
I vowed not to shave my beard until I lost a kg but now I'm kinda digging it after my longass plateau, not sure I want to shave it anymore.
>he's eatingNGMI. Starvationchads are the only ones that will make it.
what will happen to my skin once i lose my weight, God willing? will it be all flappy and stretched out or will the repeated gym routine help it tighten back in place
>>77465852depends how fat you were to begin with
>>77465857going for to 125 > 88kg, with gym every day (3 times cardio, 3 times muscle training every week), looking to lose that over the course of a year
>>77465859Probably nothing, as far as I have seen if you never went as high as halfway through obesity class 1 your skin should turn out fine.
>>77465848Based
>>77465810i really really, really like this image. i have saves it to my desktop. thanks -Dave
>>77465871my top bmi was 33 and my skin is fucked
>>77465900you were probably much more than bmi 33
>>77465916i'm short so i didn't weigh nearly enough to be out of the valid range of my scale, calculating it again to check it comes out to 33.7
>>77465898It's all yours my friend!
>>77465944Let me know if you need it back
bros, i think Vitamin D's effect is wearing off since i ate 2400 calories today to feel full.it's been a bit over 2 weeks since i stopped supplementing and i planned on getting another test a month after not taking any.time will tell but i'm dreading the upcoming 2 weeks
>>77465871my starting BMI is 35, this is the part i'm most worried about i dont wanna go through some frankenstein surgery to remove the excess skin
>>77465954Stop falling for obvious /fat/ psyops/trolls and just plan your diet like normal human beings.Well, I know normal human beings today are so dumb and lazy that counting calories and macros feel like advanced engineering to them, but you know what I mean.
>>77465447>So what do you call this then if the waist is down below?midsection
>>77465958>my starting BMI is 35, this is the part i'm most worried about i dont wanna go through some frankenstein surgery to remove the excess skinI'm coming from 350lb 6'3". I'm still about 17% body fat. Aiming for 10-12%. Mainly because it will give the skin a chance to sit on muscle. It won't retract fully, but it will somewhat. In the end, a lot of it is genetics. I'm 47, and skin hasn't been too bad. A lot of people mistake loose skin for subcutaneous fat. This fat pools into pockets of loose skin, so the skin doesn't get a chance to retract at all. Which is why it's important to go low body fat, and let the skin sit on muscle for a year. A lot of horror stories on loose skin are just subcutaneous fat deposited in loose skin pockets that can be overcome with lower body fat. Other times, it's just loose skin and you need surgery. Roll the dice anon, good luck. I recommend taking collagen peptides (10g) and glyzine (3g) daily. Make sure you're getting L-lysine from your diet; if not add that as a supplement too.
>>77465981>I recommend taking collagen peptides (10g)I bought this but got told here it was useless if I eat meat
>>77465954>since i stopped supplementingWhy did you stop supplementing? What part of no one gets enough vitamin D in the western world did you not understand?
>>77465983It's one of those things where it's a precaution. You may not need glyzine or collagen peptides as a supplement, but you may. It's a reasonably low risk safety net, basically. Protein, and gradual fat loss matter more for sure.
I gave in and had some kraft dinner, have been really low on energy from my potato, chicken and vegetable diet. I tried putting in a few spoonfuls of plain greek yogurt in the KD, it was... palatable. Turned it sort of sour, is all greek yogurt sour?
>>77465969but anon, i am the Vitamin D shill.>>77465981based old man>>77465985i hit 85ng/ml (toxicity is at 100) and i wanted to know my maintenance dose. so in order to get a "cleaner" reading, i planned to skip supplementing for a month before testing again.but i might just do the tests now to know at what levels does the hunger start.but then again, today might be an exception since my weekly and monthly averages are still below 1500.thoughts?
>>77465981thanks a lot for the returns anon, congrats on the weight loss. i am currently hitting the gym 6 times a week (3 times cardio 3 times muscle training) hoping this will help alleviate the flappy skin problem... i'll have a look at L-lysine but i am a big chicken / beef eater so hopefully i'm already getting my fix
>>77463545It is more of a glycemic index thing plus fiber and not necessarily just no carbs. Keto is a jackhammer when all you need is a basic hand held hammer.
>>77465997Dunno if I'd call it sour per se, I have heard people use it in place of sour cream but I also wouldn't call that sour but I also can't really describe those tastes. You could try a spoonful of yogurt alone, it may have gone bad?
I will be breaking my 48 hour fast with ribeye and scrambled eggs tomorrow
>>77465707if cutting the gluttonous/lazy behavior is not happening right now, it's still probably good to cut the extreme and excessive self-disciplined behavior even on days when you feel like you can tolerate it, like try to just eat at a small deficit instead of fasting and jog for 30 minutes 3 days a week instead of hiking 5 days a week. that way you're oscillating from a negative extreme to normal and back instead of a negative extreme to a positive extreme, and therefore getting used to what it feels like to have normal days. severe undereating and intense exercise can help offset bad behavior in the short term but you're making yourself excessively hungry and tired, which is highly liable to make you snap back dramatically to overeating and being sedentary to get relief from the difficulty of it. if you fuck up just try to reset to being normal instead of going for the ascetic punishment type behavior
>>77464118
>>77465247Your family is right.
Best part about doing 7 day fasts is that you basically have 6 guaranteed days of the scale going down and showing a lower number every day. Actually glorious. Too bad only god tier humans can do it, such as myself.
>7 day fastLmao enjoy your muscle loss retard
>>77466112Seethe harder while I cut more weight in two weeks than you do in a month lmfao
>>77466024Yea.. basic hand held hammer isnt enough for me. Im wanting a jewish space laser to vaporize the rolls off my body
>>77465055>you can't eat as much as you want.This is CICOsis at its worst.
>>77466112>>77466102>>77466113only women should water fast cause they don't need a muscular physique. If your goal is to be skinnyfat tho, continue fasting and don't eat protein.
>>77466138This is how niggers cope with not having the discipline to fast kek
>>77466155this is how terminally mentally obese people cope with the inability to just eat ordinary portions of food every day
anyone here done lipo? how was it how much did they scoop out
>>77466114Fair enough
>>77466165It's just way faster. That's why I do it. I lose a pound a day. Who wouldn't want that?
>>77466201Nah but in 2006 me and my cousin stayed up until 2am and there was a liposuction thing on TLC looked pretty disgusting man I wouldn’t do it
>ate 2000 calories>didn't go for my walk because I really wanted to draw
>>77466271pyw
>>77466271drawing is pretty awesome anon I would call this a successful day
>>77466228you won't want it when your bmi is 22 and you still look like this
>>77466275Fine...
>>77466289oc or anime character?
>>77466299Well it looks like an oc but it's suppossed to by Hiyori from Bleach in a dress
>be 168cm manlet>trying to lose weight but was hard as fuck and in August 2025 my weight was ~82kg>gotten sick (probably typhoid fever) on September>somehow getting fat loss easier afterwards and now my weight is 75.6kgAnyone can explain what happened to my metabolism? My consumption intake and working out routine are basically similar before and after September 2025. or is it just a coincidence?
>>77466329did you take antibiotics?
>20 kg to goI'm gonna be here for a while.
>>77466333I think I did. Did I just get a jackpot?
>>77466346there is a rabbit hole for the effect of gut bacteria on weight.in the Netherlands, they have Fecal Microbiota Transplantation in which they take poop from healthy thin people and insert them in the gut of fat people. then the fat people start losing weight.
>>77466339same
>>77466355But it should be random right for my case? so it was just a lucky occurrence and hard to replicate then?
>>77466373you got lucky with the ratio when the bacteria repopulated your gut after you nuked it with antibioticsidk exactly how lucky though
>woke up at 2amThis is comfy. Ate some soup.
>>77465954>to feel full.you're supposed to be starved not full
>>77466379Really lucky, it had been really hard to lose my weight (or fat) prior to that. I started my fat loss journey from early 2024 but it just started to kick off well after October 2025 with the same routine, diet and calories. Like, holy shit so losing weight is that easy.
What do you guys do when you feel that urge for a dessert? Drink water?
>>77466403keep some candy on hand that's negligible calorie-wiseif i eat one of these it feels like i've completed the ritual of dessert but it's only something like 20 calorieswould only recommend if you can take a small portion of whatever candy and not exceed it and be satisfied i guess
>>77466403>What do you guys do when you feel that urge for a dessert? Drink water?Get up and drive to the park then walk around. Walk by qts and smile.
>>77466403Eat some fruit
>>77465475measure your waist faggoat
>>77466403I simply don't keep any of that shit in the house.
>>77463863Congratulations
>>77464274AS a sweetener, no, IN a sweetener, its fine, its like 1g of carb per serving
>>77464606Let's be real you ate because you wanted to nobody gets malnutrition over one day, And you know that.
178cm88.5kgPhysically active job, do a bit of callisthenics every day.Goal Calories 2350, decreasing a little bit each weekGoal is to lost 0.5kg every week until the end of October. 2 days in. Feels sust1ainable, but I have to work out what a 350 calorie dinner is tonight. No idea how to calculate calories on lunch because we have a work canteen with cooked meals so I'm probably overestimating a little bit. So far lite milk and fat-free mayo both taste fine.
Does creatine kill weight loss? I healed my injury and started playing 3 soccer games a week (2 pickup games, usually lasting about 2 hours and an 11v11 90 minute game in a coed league) and some guys are telling me creatine helps with recovery. Does it cause cancer or have other side effects?
>>77466630>Does creatine kill weight loss?No, but it will add 3-8 lbs to the scale while you're on it.>creatine helps with recoveryIt helps you get out a few more reps which can lead to increased muscle growth while feeling less fatigued overall.>Does it cause cancer or have other side effects?No. Tell your doc if you take it since kidney tests will look a bit weird (creatinine will be elevated, which is normally bad, but ok if you're on creatine).
>>77465228Thanks for the idea. I'm already taking them but I doubled the dose out of curiosity yesterday and would probably have slept for a full 8 hours if it wasn't for my alarm going off. Now I need to check if it was a fluke or not and how much this shit is going to fuck me over long term.
>>77466630Makes you gay, sorry.
>lost .5 kg tonightoh yeah feels good
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>>77466552I got shin splints and bad feet after an aggressive cut + bad footwear. Was happy how quickly I was losing weight before a maintenance break to heal. Still at a deficit but it was nice losing nearly a kilo a week before realising it was hurting me
>>77466383i disagree. i spent over a month feeling full on sub 1500 calories while still losing weight.this hunger goes hard after experiencing the bless of piss easy weight loss.and see this >>77466389 anon.naturally thin people do not have to count calories or watch their food.they stop eating when full and still maintain their weight.
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79.7 kg this morning.
>>77466732What was the deficit during your aggressive cut?
>>77466552You should use punctuation in your texts.
How accurate is the Navy bodyfat calculator in the OP? Should you just add like 5% to be sure?
>>77466808Not accurate at all unless you are in the Navy.
>droped 45lbs>gained an inchCool, always thought it was a myth/cope.
Regaining some weight I lost from when I had that stomach virus. Up 1.3lb in the past 2 days and burned ~1000cal yesterday. So it goes! On the plus side I’m my usual active self again and feel fantastic rather than shitfarting every hour. My calories are down to sub-1900kcal, so that marks the end of delicious Greek yogurt at night, unless it’s been a huge day. Having trouble getting to my calories and macros now. I’ve actually gotta plan things out more. I’m going to get a ninja creamy when I get to my goal weight.Pre-diarrhea: 179.4lbAfter diarrhea: 177.4lb2 days post: 178.7lb
>>77466289cute drawing, keep it up bro
Keto pizza tonight. Back to the keto burgers tomorrow.It's great, I can eat like I usually do, but the weight keeps sloughing off.
>>77466800I was eating aiming for 1400-1600 calories a day (and likely going under because I overestimated my portions) and with my activity at the time tdee would've been 2500ish. Like I said, Bad footwear would've have compounded the issues I was having.
>>77466800>>77466976For whatever extra reference it's worth, I lost 5kg in 6 weeks and didn't gain any of it back while I recovered in maintenance so i'm actually happy all things considered, just annoyed it felt like I couldn't just continually ride the momentum but back into cutting again.
>>77466978>>77466978>>77466978>>77466978
>>77466732Weird how you didn't address literally anything I said.
>>77467142You might just be retarded honestly
>>77467297I'm sorry that you can't admit what you did, and are getting viscerally upset at people pointing it out.
>>77465297Hope this helps, my friend.
>>77467308cool. i didn't know such a thing existed.
>>77467305>what you didIf you're trying to bait fatties into roping I'd try to be a lot less obvious about it
>>77467318Now you know :)
>>77467354Sorry you're so upset.
I do OMAD 1000 calories a day and at my job I walk 24000 steps each day 4 days a week, have good muscle from training and working out in the past, opinions? Currently 23% body fat tdee is 2300.
