I am bulking up right now, and gaining muscle.For context, this guy has been working out for like 6 years with a personal trainer, and while he does have muscle, he does not look aesthetic at all. Is there any way to avoid this, and keep an aesthetic body, while still bulking up and gaining muscle as a slim guy?Is it all genetics? The guy in the pic eats clean and trains x3 per week, so I don't get what causes this...
>>77466016he doesnt look that bad. you would worship him if he was photo frauding
thats a power build! i enjoy being heavy over being lean, though lean is the most aesthetic that is without a doubt.
>>77466016What are you specifically referring to? And are you gay?
>>77466016I tell people I have this build when really I'm just fat.
>>77466016>Is it all genetics?
>>77466016Do cardio. I have a similar build except much leaner without even having a personal trainer.
Well he’s a photographer not a lifterHope it helps
>>77466032Stomach
this guy looks like he was skinnyfat ie had no muscles. so his bulking caused him to gain weight and fill out while increasing his muscles. it took 6 years cause he looks natty and prolly wasnt nolifing lifting. now he has base muscle with fat, if he did a cut he would look quite good because he will still retain a majority of his muscle.this does not apply to you who is probably just skinnyfat. you will need multiple recomps to get to whatever fag goal you have in mind.people have a misunderstanding on this board of your weight vs your body composition (fat vs muscle). you can be underweight but have no muscle and look terrible, conversely you can be fat and have muscle and look terrible except its much easier to cut down from being fat and having muscle then the other way around. this is why ss/gomad are recommended to dyel because there needs to be a base level of material to sculpt. you can indeed slowly increase your muscle while maintaining your fat levels but it will take much much longer.
>>77466016Kek that's almost exactky what i look like
>>77466035>if only you knew how fat people really are.
>>77466016I bet you'd like his build a lot more if he was doing photo fraud like the people you're comparing him to do.I doubt you'll look half as good as him with your attitude/outlook.
>>77466016you have to be indianso fucking stupid it's unreal
Damn this post triggered a lot of people. OP is probably just saying how can one bulk while still keeping a lean/slim ab region
>>77466016Simples 3x a week is not enough. Work out 60 minutes a day minimum 5 times a week, you'll see the change pretty quickly. Then you'll get addicted to it.
>>77466131No need to talk in 3rd person op
>>77466016>Eats cleanNo he doesn't. He's smashing a pizza every week and probably drinking a bunch of beer.
>>77466016He looks jewish. They have blocky waists and narrow clavicles and store lots of fat in their midsections.
>>77466161Zero reason to do this btw
>>77466166This nigga has a fat ass
He’s just fat, disheveled, and wearing poorly fitting pants.
> low rise baggy jeans
>>77466161>workin out more than 3 days a week as a nattyngmi dhz
>>77466166he is jewish
>>77466016mostly genetics
Fro knows PHOTO
So much samefagging itt
>>77466016>The guy in the pic eats cleanhe clearly doesnt as evidenced by the fact that he is fat
More or less in the same condition. I am unable to cut without becoming a dyel twink because I am too retarded to effectively track my nutrient intake so I'd rather go for the unaesthetic belly but have better lifts
>>77466016he literally just needs to cut, he'd probably look great at his weight minus 30 lbs
>>77466016Add cardioYou want to make yourself athleticThis guy looks like he did some generic 3x full body lifting routine, ate like shit ("ate clean" yeah right that's a dirty bulker if I've ever seen one) and otherwise sat around all dayYou should be doing some kind of athletic activity, at least jogging or cycling regularly, as often as you liftLifting = stimulus for muscles to growEating = fuel for muscle to grow + fat to accumulateCardio = incentive for food to be used directly for energy vs stored as fatThe three go togetherOr in shorter terms>lifting = +muscle>eating = +muscle +fat>cardio = -fat>result: ++muscleSimples
>>77466016who cares what froknowsphoto lifts or his bod is like. Would rather have his money and gear and body than a jacked up bodybuilder who can't afford a rebel camera
>>77466666
>>77466016He doesn't eat "clean" he likely eats the same as every fitness bro, rice chicken and broccoli, the only real nutrition coming from lean meats devoid of animal fat where most micronutrition is found.The way to avoid it is to understand that the fitness industry is largely wrong about food and diet and if you focus on eating high quality animal foods in totality (not just lean cuts) you can feel satiated and meet all nutrition requirements on fewer calories and you will have better hormones and thus a better body composition.
>>77466016No joke, if I was fit that is exactly what I would want to look like.Who gives a shit about aestethic
>>77466046The answer to OP's question is "don't get old." The guy in the pic is over 40 and has a good amount of visceral fat that naturally comes with aging and requires very strict dieting to overcome.As for building muscles: if you want to bulk, do steroids. If you want to get stronger, lift weights. SS / GOMAD just makes you fat. Your body natty is going to do whatever it does, and if you weren't a varsity athlete in HS lifting weights as you hit puberty then you already missed your natural bulking window.
>>77466167Other than the ABCABCx brosplit is the tried and true way to build strength and muscle with optimal 72 hour rest periods per muscle group.Roid trannies are the ones who can get away with 3-4 days a week.
>>77466016He looks great, what are you on about
>>7746601620kg overweight
>>77466631make an excel, build 4 meals, stick to them, lose weight, never go back
>>77466042>>77466016Lower your BF% by eating at a deficit if you don't want excess fat. Did you really need a whole thread for this
>>77466631>because I am too retarded to effectively track my nutrient intakeWhy not just eat the same, ideal nutrient dish everyday ?
>>77469766Nta but i work on my feet moving and lifting things and my caloric needs are different every day.
>>77466631>stretch marks on armsMy guy, you clearly just eat like a pig. stop coping.
>>77467839All he as to do is cut. He could easily be somewhat bloated also. When girls say dad bod even though some are disingenuous I feel this is kind of like what they mean can be acceptable to them. Males prioritize leanness more than females because it's just how we work. Anyway the limit of how much muscle you can put on is always going to be smaller if you're not fat - the duality of bodybuilding. In theory the ideal would be to spend years bulking up to the maximum possible, maybe 4-5 years training maximum all that time, then to cut at the end, and hope that your body will hang on to as much muscle as possible, hope muscle memory works for you.
>>77466016by losing weight
>>77466016Don't go for the dirty bulking, OP.You can keep whatever you're doing at the gym if it works for you. Then just eat clean checking your macros.
>>77466631Nowhere near the same condition as the OP guy, come on now
>>77471604What does eating clean even entail? is it really just as simple as don't eat mcdonalds and shit, or is there more to it?also why does it matter what you eat as long as you aren't going overboard on calories and getting enough protein and carbs?
>>77466016what's wrong with him?
>>77466016that's how I look after 20 years no gym
>>77471646Mostly everything is fine but he has a gut/non lean stomach. he would not really look too in shape if you covered his arms
>>77466016>how do i avoid thisdont get caught up in lifting numbers too much>bro i need to get a 3pl8 squat at all costs!is a quick way to get fat in pursuit of said 3pl8 squattrack calories even on a bulk so you're not overeating. There is more wiggle room for bad foods on a bulk but it is a slippery slide and the cleaner you eat the better. Your surplus should be ideally around 300 calories per day. Do a mini cut whenever your bodyfat is getting out of control. Going from 18% down to 10% makes a world of difference and can be done in maybe 2-3 months. Do a proper cut to get lean as possible down to 8-10% first. This gives you a good runway to bulk as you have 5-10% of bodyfat to be gained before you have to think about cutting again. You can live between 10-20% bodyfat. Guy in OP is probably around 20-25% and if he did one cut hed look great. The difference between OP and the body you want is maybe 3-4 months of cutting tops. Youre only ever 90-120 days from a good body if you arent a complete spherical lardass.
>>77466131yeah when you say something literally anyone who isn't some third world monkey who's never used a camera before knows is retarded a lot of people are gonna call you retarded that's crazy
>>77466042What is wrong with it
>>77466046>this does not apply to you who is probably just skinnyfat. you will need multiple recomps to get to whatever fag goal you have in mind.just cheat, take some ozempic to stop being skinny fat then immediately hop on trent. eggspert
>>77466035Love to see some >fellow white people
>>77466016He looks good, he just doesn't control his mid-section. He might benefit from vacuums.
>>77472645he is at least 25% bodyfatare you blind?
>>77466046If you are lean you can't look bad. No, your shitty picture won't convince me
I'm 5'7" 230 lbs but doing LOMAD to bulk up to 300 lbs and achieve a 700 lb deadlift. My PR is 575 lb deadlift when I weighed like 195 lbs
>>77466016That's basically what you should look like on a bulk. Maybe the tail end of a bulk for a lot of people here.
>>77466016Tom?
