Is recomp a real thing if you are an intermediate lifter or is it just a meme?
>>77468635>Is recomp a real thing if you are an intermediate lifter or is it just a meme?recomp is bulking without excess food - up roid dose but don't up food intake as much it's all in the sticky >>77468482>>77468514
>>77468635It is a meme, people cut down to abs then are too attached to them mentally so they don't want to lose them but you can't make progress without bulking.
>>77469055I just finished a 10 pound bulk and I’m not sure I gained any muscle at all it just looks like I got fat for no reason. Been lifting 6 years natty.
>>77469055Bulking as normies understand it is a meme at best and pseudoscience at worst. You're not trying to get fat, you're upping your calories by a few hundred (protein incl) and lifting hard to get your muscles growing, there is no need to gain fat
Recomp just means gaining muscle and losing fat. So yeah, it’s a real thing for everyone.
>>77468635It is but it's not how it's portrayed by influencers or youtube. It's something called a cyclical ketogenic diet. It's small cycles of bulking and sprints of carbless fatloss. With specific exercise and carbloads to manipulate glycogen. It is hellish to do if you're not really on point with diet and able to force yourself to exercise when you feel like death for a couple weeks.
>>77469559Natties really only have 3 maybe 4 years of muscle growth
>>77468635if you have fat you can use it to build muscle. fat is a store of energy. if you signal to your body that you need increased muscle capacity via strength training that reaches failure, your body will use the energy stored in your fat to build the muscle. its common sense.
>>77469606lmao this is exactly why people go the gym every day for 2 years and sill look the same
>>77469616explain what is incorrect about what i said.
>>77469625lol post body
>>77469628i see no reason to until you actually make a single criticism of the actual content of my statement.
>>77469635Nothing what you said actually works.You can even build muscle on roids to any meaningful degree without a calories surplus.Any strength you gain during a "recomp" or cut is just newb gains which are mostly neurological adaptions to make the movement more efficient.Any way you're fat and dyel so I am wasting my breath
>>77469641typo You CANT even build muscle on roids without a calorie surplus
>>77469641https://www.ovid.com/jnls/nsca-scj/fulltext/10.1519/ssc.0000000000000584~body-recomposition-can-trained-individuals-build-muscle-and?an=00126548-202010000-00003literally the very first result when i typed "body recomposition" into google scholar
>>77469670You're being asked to post body because you are claiming a thing that natty lifters know doesnt work. You will spin your wheels if you are not on a small bulk and trying to add muscle as a natty. Period. We know you look like shit and will look like shit 2 years from now going nowhere because you cant accept that you need to put mass in your body to gain mass on your body. Its real shrimple you little faggot.
>>77469895>>77469670>>77469643>>77469641bot, it's explained already in painstaking detail: >>77469050>recomp is bulking without excess food - up roid dose but don't up food intake as muchthose are code words for roid use, it has zero to do with real life experience of natural human beings
>>77468635Total meme. A great way to spin ur wheels. Just look all the dyels at your gym that never put on weight.
>>77469670I'm not reading a gay study by some dyel egghead.You cant even recomp with roids, let alone natty to any meaningful degree>but muh high dose trenmaybe, maybe not. but that's not what we're talking about here
>>77469566Ideally yes, you will gain a little bit of fat regardless but if done right not too much. People assume you have to pig out and eat as much as possible which isn't true.
>>77469641you can build muscle even in a deficit lol
>>77471360post body
>>77471371I accept your concession
>>77468635>recompTell me you're on gear without telling me you're on gear. Recomp means making gains, which means eating like a mf, while burning fat, which means eating like a birb. It's mathematically impossible without gear.t. just finished a cy- I mean just did some "recomp" myself
>>77471455Wtf that's my girlfriend
>>77469559I gained 14 pounds and only saw my back and traps grow. The goal was bigger arms but they look the fucking same but more fatty than before.
>>77468635There's no physiological purpose of fat for muscle growth. The process of losing fat and gaining muscle are entirely different. Muscle growth is a response to a stimulus of mechanical tension, fat loss is a caloric deficit. Caloric balance doesn't really matter that much for muscle growth and if it did, then you wouldn't easily observe noobs gaining muscle while on a cut.It's true that more and more size will bring fat with it. The fat itself helps with strength due to mass moving mass (elite shotput athletes are fat for a reason). High school linebackers are not Ronnie Coleman levels of jacked. For lots of people, packing on some added fat is worth the added muscle mass and strength."Recompers" generally are grifters who sell the idea you can grow 20lbs without added fat. Unless you're on roids, if you have a high muscle mass goal (the anti-bmi cope for example) you will gain fat. You can't "leanly" gain 30lbs of muscle because everyone's body has these biological inhibitors restricting muscle growth, like the famous cases of myostatin deficiency. Roids are the main reason someone can be lean and huge, because they (by design) turn on those anabolic signals to induce muscle growth without any sort of dietary adjustment or even a mechanical stimulus (though the latter makes it more effective). They were created for bedridden patients for a reason.A hard cut loses more FFM because the body is so depleted it starts burning the protein a carbohydrate. The proteins are then unavailable for various functions and it'll take it from the muscle, since dietary protein is NOT stored but rather excreted in urine. This is the problem with bullheaded ideas like Lyle Macdonald's "protein-sparing fasting" which is just rabbit starvation.Bodybuilding a (homosexual) beauty pageant so pretty much all of it is predetermined genetically/pharmaceutically. This gets said all the time but novices and instagram "fan" gremlins don't want to hear it.
>>77469559isn't that the fun part? and yet a woman still thinks that henry cavill as superman has a dad bod easily obtainable by going to the gym once a month casually.meanwhile natties work for years in the gym for scraps of muscle growth.t. natty, been at it for a decade (since freshman year of high school). when I hit 30 I'm going to slam var and mast even if I don't have kids by then because I'm just so tired of getting mogged by roiders younger than me who just have been "working out" for a year.roids really are one of those things where the benefits outweigh the negatives, I think.
>>77471956lots of words to sound fat and stupid
Bump
>>77472777>where the benefits outweigh the negatives, I think.Yes aging 3 times faster, going bald, permanently fucking up your internal organs, cutting your life expectancy in half and giving yourself mental disorders is worth it to get more muscular
>>77469050You can make progress especially if you eat more
>>77469559Lift harder than you are with also more defined goals for many different kinds of liftimg all the time until you need a few days off or so. After doing this you will need more food to get less diminishing returns.
>>77468635You can push so much more weight when you're in a surplus, there's no comparison, bulking is just better.
>>77468635Bulk is the best thing you can do. Everyone natural who’s jacked has had a big boy bulk at least once. All these forever intermediate and novices are too attached to their abs or afraid to put on weight. Or they suck at cutting. If you have Belly, cut to 12-14%. Then bulk to 20%. Ideally you bulk over winter and fall and cut through spring where you maintain in summer.
>>77469625Muscle tissue is an entirely different chemical composition than fat and the compounds it’s oxidation for energy production leads to. Muscle is nitrogen rich; fat is simply a hydrocarbon
>>77468635No you are probably doing something entirely else right and are falling for correlation vs causation. This is physics, you can't cheat god. Try as hard as you want.
