What's even the point anymore?
>>774849962 is already more muscular than 99% of men
1 - normal guy2 - 1+ years going to the gym3 - 5+ years of going to the gym4 and 5 - steroids
>>77485001"normal guy" is much higher bf% than 1, 1 is skelemode
>>77485039your thinking of a "normal goy"
>>77484996Post arms. 4 is not even natty, so 2 is only one tier bellow the natty limit.
>>77485046normal goy might be the cause of a normal guy being high bf%, but a normal guy is still high bf%
>>77484996Stated vs revealed preferences
>>77485001"Normal guy" is clearly working out to some extent. A few months in the gym, I'd say.
>>77485056Would.
>>77485074nah someone untrained will genuinely have arms like that if they are at low bf%. you will gain arm muscles like that just from swinging your arms while you go for a run or occasionally going swimming or playing tennis or whatever. sure if you are a complete shut in neet who just never eats you might not have that level of muscle, but if you are just a normal active person you dont need to go to the gym ever for muscles like that.
>>77484996I don't like this image because all of those have more definition than the average guy so it's difficult for hoes to compare. If they all had less defintion at the same size they would probably lean towards 3.
>>77485089no shit you need more muscle development to compensate for higher bf%. but being higher bf% comes with all sorts of other downsides.
>>77485001retarded. There is no singular dose of steroids and enhancing changes the speed and level of results you get from the same amount of training while also boosting training capacity.You can be 2 on 300mg test while only lifting once or twice a week at light intensity. Or you can be a 3-4 with moderate volume on a 1g blast. It's not a binary NATTY-ROIDED
Trooned wog spam
>>77485161are you the same autistic guy that posted in the other thread when people were talking about "low doses" of steroids? you're autistic as fuck lmao
>>77485161of course its binary you fucking moron. you're either on roids or you're not. and you cant reach 4-5 without being on roids. the fact that some subhuman pussy like yourself roided and still struggles to reach 3 is beside the point.
>>77485161>retard claims steroids don't work actually
>>77485138Then it's not actual size preference they pick.
>>77485278what the fuck point are you even trying to make bro. you just sound like your mad that you lack the discipline to maintain a low bf%.
>>77485247he's right in the sense they won't magically make you bigger. if you take them then proceed to be a lazy retard who doesn't workout properly or diet you'll still look like a natty or lanklet or bloatlord or whatever
>>77485283I am that lean and my arm is pretty much between 2 and 3. The point is that the idea of the graphic was to ask women about their preference of muscular development but it used a level of leanness that at higher muscularity looks less aesthetically pleasing to them. Had they picked the same level of muscularity at a slightly higher bf% for the graphic there is a good chance women would have chosen a bigger arm. This is why I'm pointing out that the graphic is not ideal for that survey. What the results don't rule out is that it's simply a combination of muscle size and leanness that dictates whether it's appealing to them or not, not muscular development on it's own.
>>774850013 is good genetics + lightning + pump + natty limit
>>77484996most of this board doesnt even have 2
>>77484996Who cares. Just don't be 1 or 5 and women won't care.
>>77484996Is this supposed to be while flexing or relaxed?
>>77484996ceps floating somewhere between 2 and 3. maybe 3 with pump. my shoulders and wrists are closer to 4.idgaf what women think about my body lmao 99% of them couldn't train themselves to deadlift my bench without pissing themselves.
>>77484996she said 2 but she meant 3
>>77485056it infuriates me when bulbous piggies wear low cut tops thinking their fat saggy udders are real breasts
>>77485056Ur a pussy bro my arms are huge natty nigda
>>77485233nah>>77485238Ok you fucking retard. Guess I can just take 25mg of test a week only to end up with 200 ng/dL testosterone levels then lift once a week, but since I flipped the binary "roid" switch I'm actually going to be jacked. You cracked the code. Thanks.>>77485247>pretending to not be able to readhere's your (You), now fuck off
>>77485056Slap those udders on my shoulders and start doing calf raises
>>77484996for me its 34 and 5 are roid tranny territory
>>774849961 is skellington2 is natty lifter (notice the big power gap between 1 and 2)3 is either elite natty or more commonly, on roids4 is on tren5 is on ludicrous cocktails of roids and synthol
>>77485056Would
>>77485303what i don't get is why this is treated as some sort of "women don't like muscular guys ackshually" gotcha when like two out of the eight or so women said they liked 4/5.also what i don't get is this need to be as broadly appealing to women as possible. the fags here who pin their self-images on what women say they're attracted to (often on tape, and often after this discourse having made its rounds on social media, no less) is fucking pathetic lmao
>>77484996wog status?
>>77485161you are a massive fucking moron
>>77486970thought this was bullshit but i'm starting to believe