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You lift? Aww that's cute...
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I lift and have a gun to shoot homosexuals like the ones in op pic
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Oh God here we go again.
Just agree with OP so he can go back to sucking Brazilian dicks.
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>wait not like that, you're supposed to grapple
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>noo that's against the rules
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>>77489771
Wog. Tranny sicko. You dont lift or jujitsu
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>>77489936
I like how he immediately sits in the autism position right after destroying some guys life in an effort to win a tournament nobody cares about
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>>77489771
Man with Natural power and skill will always dominate
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>>77489953
its the natural reaction of every spastic that has tried to rip my limbs off in sparring
had a guy dive into an ankle lock on me and crank it like it was ADCC finals
after i tap the guy looks at me sheephisly like fucking urkel and asks
>sorry u good?
yeah thanks for taking my health and well-being into account
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>>77489953
>let me put my arm around your ankle and position my head and neck directly under your entire mass
winners all round in that fight
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>>77489953
BJJ is a game.
Wrestling is a game.
Boxing is a game.
The sooner you faggots realise this, the sooner we can just have fun doing what we want. Nobody gives a fuck about how deadly your martial art is, just like how nobody cares whether basketball or soccer will be more useful in WW3. I think BJJ is fun, and I don't particularly care if you disagree.
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>>77489936
just why the fuck would you do this
clearly the guy has to know that's not a legal move, why would you drop a guy on his head like that at a fucking bjj tournament what?
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>>77489771
I am fairly confident I could beat most trained amateur grapplers in my weight class without training grappling.
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>>77489773
>>77489867
Cope
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>>77490005
Boxing isn't a game
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>>77490078
Please try and take a video :)
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>>77491158
>This thing which I play with my friends isn't a game
>We have structured rules, specialised equipment, and refereed competitions, but it isn't a game
>The entire goal is to get points, but it DEFINITELY isn't a game
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>>77490005
>>77491290
Weightlifting is a game. Also, war is a game. Modern dating and marriage set by feminist standards, is indeed, a game. Going to work is a game. I actually play a lot of video games at my job, so I'm gaming a game within a game.
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>>77491290
Boxing isn't a game
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>>77491966
Its like fencing with fists so yes
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>>77489771
I lift good and I fight good
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>>77489771
Oh yes you are a slouch at lifting but I am the slacker.
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>>77492040
Boxing isn't a game
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>>77489936
my fucking god that is brutal. bjj == injuries. there is always that fucking guy. you can't even just train lightly because you have to roll with strangers. boxing is so much better sans repeated sparring. nothing better than running 4 miles a few times a week, heavy and double end bag work, and shadow boxing. every now and then spar 3 rounds. even doing plyos for that fast switch check hook, so smooth.

to every anon in here lifter or not, have your son do wrestling in high school. even if they dont get matches, they will still be able to take down 99.999% of other men and then take them to a boxing gym a few times a week. that is all that is needed fuck this getting your knees shot and shoulder yanked out of socket by some hot head.
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>>77489771
Guys I got my black belt in BJJ. I'm very happy about it

I started because I wanted to fight like characters from my favorite shonen animes. People respect me a lot more than when I have 4 stripes on my brown belt.
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Yeah I definitely think I need to learn how to fight. I've made it 31 years without an altercation and I plan to keep it that way, but the idea that someone COULD beat me up in front of my kids makes me really stressed out.
What's the best martial art for an unc like myself?
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>>77490005
This. Nothing more ridiculous than martial arts fags.

>Ugh, I could beat you up if we got into a fight
>What if I just follow you home from work and shoot you in the back of the head as you get out of the car? Can karate save you from that?
>nooooooo that's not sportsmanlike, I don't want to get killed
>okay what if we just leave out combat entirely and have a powerlifting competition to see who's stronger, that way no one gets hurt
>noooo we have to settle this according to ultra specific sporting rules only I choose which I specifically trained for, with levels of violence I deem appropriate
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>>77492656
Gratz dude
Any advice for a beginner?

>>77492722
Try bjj spar against blue belts and ask yourself would you rather be a blue belt or not in a fight
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>>77492806
He can still beat you up though
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>>77489771
thanks uwu
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>>77493038
And he is still weaker and can't lift as heavy as an actual weightlifter

Martial arts are for the morons mentally stuck in their edgy teen years
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>>77489936
lmao that kid got fucking owned
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>>77492722
>What's the best martial art for an unc like myself?
Any good quality MMA gym's around you? If not, maybe Muay Thai?
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>>77493148
>Martial arts are for the morons mentally stuck in their edgy teen years
>t. fedora wearing, sheltered life having, chronically online, retard
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>>77493555
bjj, you don't as a grow adult want to go to actual fight gym. Its not worth the head trauma and injuries, you need to have some kind of actual inferiority complex from being beat or something to do it as an adult without the want to be a fighter.
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>>77489936
>>77490054
I teach BJJ and have to correct shit like this all the time. People are absolute fucking retards. Even experienced guys put themselves or someone else in dangerous positions all the time without thinking about it. Luckily in our school I've improved things a lot but there will always be new people. It gets old
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>>77489936
this is the stuff i don't like about jits, that kid should have bailed. People get too comfortable with the game aspect of it, that dude probably banned for life, what a shit thing to do.
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>>77489989
This shit is why i always try to roll with the higher belts, man. For longevity you really need to find decent partners.
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>>77489936
Kids legs can't move. Arms are dying. Fucking hate this garbage. Pieces of shit like that are why I never did BJJ or other grappling sports. I knew someone who had their arm fucked during "light practice" by some faggot who couldn't stand losing in a practice. Too many ego driven cocksuckers and impulsive sadists go in to massage their psychological deformities if they can get the upper hand in a situational drill or some podunk tournament.
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I wrestle too
https://youtube.com/shorts/p7_r-4r0hCY?si=bCjinCXwftncQd0s
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>>77493573
If I ever accidently basically murdered someone I would be running to get medical aid. That fucker just knelt there staringcat the other kid's face screaming, "Look what I did. I'm a fuckin beast".
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>>77493031
1) You have to show up, be there a couple minutes early, and pay attention. Do extra curricular study, ask questions, keep up hygiene. If you don't and you get complacent, you'll eventually find your way out of the gym.

2) You need to ditch these ideas that you got from 4chan about whether you're destined for greatness or failure. You are cut from the same cloth and bleed the same blood; you are not built different. If you do not then you'll take losses personally and clench up when you believe you have a chance to prove yourself. Competition will be painful instead of playful, you'll avoid it, and therefore you'll be mediocre.

3) Combat sports are a small village. "omg BJJ has no stand up." but it's like I know people from both nearby judo schools, the muay thai team comes to the same place, and the MMA teams come through sometimes. I know where to get TRT, a hair transplant, or peptides and it's not like I was seeking them out. This idea that BJJ players who apply themselves don't know their way around a gym or couldn't find a place to do striking/judo/wrestling/MMA ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO A LAYMAN is hilarious

4) Remember that fighting is more fun than anything else you could be doing. If it's not for you then that's fine. I have seldom see one of those street fight videos where the fight wasn't over something stupid and couldn't have simply been prevented by apologizing and walking away. There's a whole lot you can do and tools you can use for self defense (like staying in well lit, populated areas and carrying pepper spray) before martial arts ever becomes relevant. If you're not enjoying it you're not missing out on much.

The technique will come as long as you apply yourself, enjoy yourself, and work hard over a long time.
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>>77493581
it looks like hes taking a position to show a sign a respect. You'll see it sometimes when an opponent gets actually injured instead of celebrating, kinda like how in football every one takes a knee. i agree he's way too close and it looks retarded.
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>>77493588
Brazilians are all about fake respect and humility
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When I was a bouncer we had a guy in our staff who was a BJJ black belt and taught classes the local MMA gym. He used to talk tough all the time whenever fighting would come up. Like a year went by and somehow anytime a fight broke out he was nowhere to be found, and then one day he got into it with a guy that played football at the local university and he got his ass completely handed to him. Like 2 months later he got his ass kicked by some drunk frat boy. BJJ is literally completely fucking useless and an extremely gay sport. The people who do it are obnoxious and retarded and nobody can convince me otherwise.
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>>77489936
did he snap his neck? Legs are noodles after the slam
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>>77493644
Yeah, he's paralyzed from the waist down IIRC
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>>77489771
You trained your whole life on a comfy mat, with people you knew, in a controlled environment, and now you think you are a tough guy who can throw down with people you don't know nothing about on the street? Aww, that's cute...
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>>77492438
Videos like that prove bjj doesn't work in reality. Tough pill to swallow for a lot of guys, mainly the mmgay crowd. If that was a real fight the smaller guy wouldn't have even gotten in that position to begin with. As far as grappling goes wrestling has been the only thing that can give a real advantage but you're only as good as your strength.
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>>77491163
they're all dyels
try arm bar me bro i'm just gonna slam your frail body into the floor where you belong
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surely you could wrestle your buddy in the park and eventually bjj bros would give you free training right?
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>>77493644
he used his neck as a pogo stick so it would be a miracle if it didn't break
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>>77493038
Nope, not if I carry a weapon. So his entire raison d'etre is pointless now. I could challenge him to a friendly lifting contest but oops he can't do that either.
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>>77489771
Here's Larry demonstrating why weight classes exist
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>>77493567
It depends on your sparring partners. You will not be given a chance to go slow and easy out on the street. You need the experience of throwing people or being thrown by people, who will then proceed to either submit or continue to punch/kick you on the ground. You also need to know how it feels to fight stand up and still risk being clinched and thrown by a much bigger guy. A beginner will not fight with veterans in a proper MMA gym, and if he does 99.9% of those experienced fighters will go easy and will adapt to the beginners style and pressure. Also, most places, especially Muay Thai gyms, have boxing bags.
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>>77493620
Generalizing much? Maybe he was drunk? Maybe he wasn't as good as he claimed? Maybe he took a cheap shot to the chin unprepared? Maybe the adrenaline got to him and he froze up? Doesn't mean he does not have the capacity to be dangerous. You won't know, until you're alone and feel your legs freeze up, just how badly it can affect you.
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>>77493668
Shouldn't have brought that little knife to a taser fight, pussy. Now you've needlessly escalated and gotten hit by my prod like a common cattle. Gonna cry much?
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>>77489771
50% of jjfags have torn tendons and knee/back/shoulder/neck pain

More jjfags have died competing, training and using their jj in self defense than have people fighting jjfags.
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>>77493148
He can still beat you up though

>>77493775
Test your theory my dude


>>77493852
>B-but what if I had a rocket launcher!
He can still beat you up though
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>>77493580
Cool
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>>77493620
He would still beat you up though
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>>77493860
Thread got real quiet after this one looool
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>>77493958
You're right... What happened?
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Got facial stiches and I've been taking 5-6 days off already but I'm itching to get back in the mats. Can I go as long as I take it light and just skip open rolls? I asked two doctors and one doctor was like "ye go for it" the other one was more "hmm....maybe wait till the stiches come out".

I'm starting some light cardio for now but want a little bit more technique going.
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>>77494405
mass is irrelevant against pro technique, but MMA fighters, especially UFC top ranked guys are like 0.001% of the planet.
Just because you took a few months boxing and have some meme jew jitsu belt doesn't mean you should attack dudes twice your size.
The best fighting technique is walking away.
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>>77493668
>You spent your whole life in an air conditioned gym with perfectly engineered machines to train your muscles and now you think you can pick up heavy things and put them back down? Aww, that's cute
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>>77494449
Just wait till the stitches come out
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>>77494464
A purple belt 30kg lighter than him is still fucking him up
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>>77494535
damn it my body itching as fuckkkk
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>>77494466
>WRYYYYYY
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>>77494561
Finally, a martial art we can agree on
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>>77490054
He's American.
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>>77489936
I am sorry, who is at fault here? The small dude literally put himself in a position AND tried to cause thay fall. The big dude did not really slam him or anything, he dropped (heavily) on his own knee. He didnt like fall on the attacker or anything.
I only see fault at the small guy part.
Bjj sucks ass srs, mich like taekwondo its just a sport of technique not real lofe force. That is why all bjj fags are owned when someone with real hard grappling fights them like Khabib in UFC vs all bjj guys fucking mauled them>>77492040
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>>77495611
Khabib trained sambo. Sambo evolved through jiu jitsu. Doing judo and jiu jitsu is basically sambo.
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>>77495611
Imo the big guy is at fault wrt the rules. It is illegal to neck crank in fuji rules. He did a neck crank. The smaller guy was unwise though, you should always be aware that people may break the rules and harm you very badly. Not only was it unwise, it wasn't even good BJJ technique. He should have swapped to something like a k-guard.
>Bjj sucks ass srs, mich like taekwondo its just a sport of technique not real lofe force. That is why all bjj fags are owned when someone with real hard grappling fights them like Khabib in UFC vs all bjj guys fucking mauled them
Totally misinformed. Every MMA fighter is essentially doing BJJ. Almost all have BJJ coaches, except for a few of the guys from the Caucasus. Even those who don't have BJJ coaches are training with BJJ guys. BJJ is an essential component of MMA. But it is incomplete.
Notice that of Khabib's 5 submission hold wins, they're basically BJJ-specific techniques.
3 by RNC - RNC is basically illegal in judo, and irrelevant due to the gi. The RNC is irrelevant in combat sambo due to the gi. Extremely common in BJJ. If you want to know RNC, ask a BJJ guy.
1 by kimura - kimura very rare in judo, and rare in sambo. Very common in BJJ.
1 by triangle - much more common in BJJ than judo or sambo. About double the finishes in BJJ compared to judo.
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>>77495815
I thought judo invented rnc

Hadake jime
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>>77495828
>choking a nigga out was invented by Kakashi Hatake
bro I think strangling things was invented by the first ancestor that had hands.
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>>77493871
Every BJJ/MMA guy is inevitably exposed as a fraud. These people coast on playing a sport and beating up retarded people on subway cars or fat dads in bars and airports. When their skills are actually tested in a do or die, do or the lights turn off scenario they get their asses handed to them. Martial Arts are a meme. They’ve always been a meme. Their popularity is driven by Hollywood and sporting events with highly regulated rules and conventions. They have never, ever been reliable methods of defense or attack in real situations.
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>>77494464
> mass is irrelevant against pro technique
…in a sparring match….

Goddamn you guys are retarded
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Genuinely, if you really believe any amount of jiu jitsu can overcome the advantages conferred by sheer physics and nature, you are a fucking retard. You could spend your entire life training jiu jitsu only to find out it won’t help you when a big fast rugby player breaks your skull off the pavement as you go for an arm bar. That’s just the reality of these sports. And they are just sports.
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>>77489771
switched from bjj to wrestling and its for me more fun albeit harder on the body
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>>77495943
Dude a rugby player actual rugby player I know is now doing bjj and he's getting mauled by 70kg blue belts
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>>77496096
bjj fights have a lot of restrictions
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>>77495937
>Martial Arts are a meme
Post body. I want to see the man behind this post. I want to see the fat, floppy tender flaps underneath your neck, Jabba.
>They have never, ever been reliable methods of defense or attack in real situations
Again. You're generalizing based on seeing 1 random guy underperform. You cannot move weight around and think that you'd out box a guy that has been drilling proper foot movement, hand speed, combination speed, striking power, overall strength, and has felt what it means to take strikes to the chin/liver/plexus/legs. You are 100% completely retarded if you believe you can take on a guy that has trained how to throw punches and kicks for a decade, and win assuredly.
You are most definitely retarded if you believe a guy who knows what it feels like to get your liver blown out, would act as recklesly as a guy who never stood against a sparring partner that could easily showcase just how little force a punch to the right portion of your body can strangle you. Only way to learn is to either go out every night and get beat up, or through sparring/drilling movements.
All in all, you are either a child or a heavily sheltered sperg.
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>>77495943
Ahem. Observe: >>77493860
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>>77495943
>sheer physics and nature

so the thing you can learn which uses body mechanics and physics (momentum, fulcrum, force multiplication, displacing center of mass, redirection of energy, rotational force) to your advantage will always win?
thanks for proving you're retarded
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>>77495943
Jiu Jitsu is a meme sport for reddit software engineers yes. If you train boxing consistently for 2 years you could beat pretty much anyone in a fight including those who are bigger than you unless they are also a boxer or an MMA fighter.

This will go in one ear and out the other on this board because trying to convince white american dudes to take up boxing is like getting blood from a stone

>umm boxing is for niggers!!

Okay then continue to walk around terrified you could get your ass beat at any moment
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>>77495940
in an actual streetfight, a 75kg khabib would swiftly just poke your eyes out and feed your teeth to you right after
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>>77489936
Lmao, this would never happen to a wrestler or a judoka, bjjtrannies are all pencil neck dyel faggots, good riddance.
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>>77495815
>Rnc is illegal in judo, kimura is rare
>Double the triangle finishes in bjj than judo or sambo (in bjj you only win by submission, in judo you win by throwing and only enter the ground if the throw fails, in sambo is the same plus striking)
Yeah no fucking shit retard ofcourse bjj has more submission wins THAT'S ALL THEY DO ANIMAL.
Not only you're wrong about everything you said it doesn't even have anything to do with what the anon you quoted said, bjj still gets cucked by wrestlers, not only in mma, whenever wrestlers, judokas or mma guys enter bjj tournaments they dominate.
Bjj is a relic of the pass, just another tool in the toolbox at best.
>>77495828
Basically the only thing that bjj might have invented is the rubber guard and is still niche within bjj, literally everything else comes either from judo or wrestling.
There's even old footage from tsunetane oda doing de la riva sweeps, berimbolos and even pulling guard back in 1910 before Helio was even born.
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>makes your grappling irrelevant
does any grappling art have an answer to the eye gouge?
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martials arts really is humbling, you could squat 315, deadlift 405, and some 165lb twink who has been training for 2-3 years will outbox you and knock you out.
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>>77492040
You can play basketball, you can play soccer, you can't play boxing. You have to fight.
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You fight? That's cute.
*pulls out huge cock*

There's always a way someone can emasculate you.
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>>77496511
If dude just bridged he would knock him off balance at least...

>>77496535
Blue belt 60kg victim weight guys control me like im a baby and I weigh 25kg more mostly muscle ....
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>>77496204
Boxing is good but you really should know some grappling to be complete

If someone tackles you or grabs you and pulls you down, boxing is useless
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>>77496119
It would be the same in MMA. It would be the same in a street fight.

Being able to tackle people + throw a ball doesn't mean you're a great fighter. There's that video of two huge football players getting clowned by two dyel bjj guys in a club toilet. Real Ogs will remember
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>>77496309
Okay cool but look at what judo is now.. everything is banned and you can't do anything because they don't train it


So you may as well do judo 2.0 aka bjj where you can actually scramble and not rely on le magical ippons

>Wrestling is better

Yeah that's because they train every day from school to college.... No shit they're going to be dangerous. They still get subbed by bjj black belts
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>>77496309
>Yeah no fucking shit retard ofcourse bjj has more submission wins THAT'S ALL THEY DO ANIMAL.
that's the point. they all train BJJ. I never said BJJ was complete. In fact I said it was incomplete.
>whenever wrestlers, judokas or mma guys enter bjj tournaments they dominate.
false
>judokas
judo's mediocre for fighting, as evidenced by the lack of judo fighters in MMA. elite judo fighters have only been banned from MMA since 2014 and they weren't great before then so that's not an excuse.
>Basically the only thing that bjj might have invented is the rubber guard
You mean to tell me judo guys had advanced systems for:
- fishnet
- tren lock
- woj lock
- high step passing
- inside sankaku
- inside camping, outside camping
- higher ground
- sidequarters
- false reap
etc
You mean to tell me they knew this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRn3PKdsdQ
and countless other unnamed techniques

Besides it's not important what BJJ invented. It's important what is ACTUALLY PRACTICED in the sports. And in judo and sambo and wrestling you will not be learning RNCs, or at least good ones. The single most important submission in all of fighting. etc

People who say this kind of thing are totally unaware of how new these techniques are, or at least how recently they were adopted. Sorry man, but old school wrestling and judo looks shit by modern standards. A lot of what judoka do in jujis didn't become mainstream til the 80s. The modern russian tie system didn't get mainstream til the 80s. Guys in the 80s were still pinching their knees on high singles. The funk systems are very new. Double knee drops being mainstream is very new. It's the same for BJJ.
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>>77497362
>fishnet
- tren lock
- woj lock
- high step passing
- inside sankaku
- inside camping, outside camping
- higher ground
- sidequarters
- false reap


I have close to 100 hours training time and have no idea what any of those are

There really are levels to this lol
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>>77492438
I'd love to do boxing or muay thai but I'm afraid of CTE. Does it make any difference which one I choose? I'm not particularly smart but I don't want to become a drooling retard because of my hobby.
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>>77489936
Obviously paralyzing someone, even if they are stupid and lack self preservation, is wrong.
But what is the right move here when someone is clinging to you like that without killing him? He can't just let go because the dude is clinging to him. He can't lift him to try dislodge him safely.
In my eyes the options are for him carefully drop onto his ass without breaking his neck or to forfeit for the sake of his opponent.

t. Non martial artist.
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>>77496284
Finally a good reply to that webm. Bunch of fucking crybabies in the other replies
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>>77497563
all contact sports equal cte, even in sparring.
Just get a ccw license
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>>77497563
MT is more hobby friendly
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>>77496511
>Makes your eye gouge irrelevant
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>>77497617
I'll probably do that then. I'm not trying to become a professional fighter, it just looks like a fun thing to do.
>>77497606
Yeah of course if my goal was self-defense I'd get a gun, I just want to learn a striking martial art and not fuck myself up too bad.
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>>77497606
>Just get a ccw license
And end up in prison for a decade, bacuse you've killed a man needlesly.
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>>77497792
just shoot them in the kneecap, goofy
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>>77491153
cope
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>>77497812
He can still beat you up though
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>>77489771
>90% of fights end up on the ground***
>***all cop arrests count as fights

Brazilian Blowjob is the biggest psyop to normalfags. Any juice goose or decent size natty could one shot these dyels
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>>77489953
id get folded immediately thats the funniest shit ive seen all summer
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>>77489771
What is your point, faggot? Every serious combat sports athlete lifts weight too.
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>>77498077
This, isn't the best bjj guy some jacked, openly admitted roider? Gordon Ryan or something.
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>>77490078
That actually happens a lot at least with more casual martial arts guys. They fucking hate it when it happens. They'll compliment how strong you are as an insult.
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>>77496204
>Okay then continue to walk around terrified you could get your ass beat at any moment

Do people really do this?
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>>77499280
It's called reality
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>>77489771
>>77489953
What's stopping somebody from just turning 360 degrees and walking away while these retards roll around on the floor?
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>>77490054
Why do nigs jaywalk? Because they can
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>>77499589
Rules. The guy flailing around on the ground is actually winning.
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>>77493562
Nice projection bro
Nobody really cares about your gay little "sport", you are still weak and any trained weightlifter can easily mog you
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>>77499589
Once these guys grab you it's over lol
>Id just stand up

Yeah sure you would pal. I'm sure the MMA fighters caught under a bjj fighter all just stand up easily. With clothing you're especially done
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>>77499984
What is he gonna do? Bicep curl him to death?
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>>77499984
>Talking like the majority of MMA/BJJ fighters don't do weightlifting/calisthenics
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>>77489771
>gets kicked in the head by the buddy of the guy he's trying to grapple
>dies
>>77492722
a gun
>>77499589
why would he do that if he could just stomp on his opponent face?
bjj is the best martial art only when when you are fighting with rules
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>>77500290
Stomping or not, he can still beat you up
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>>77496511
lol wtf, what event is that?
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>>77497592
He should have not got in that situation in the first place or forfeit and fight again. Not break his neck and paralyse him a over sporting competition whilst being disqualified and banned, it was pointless. It's criminal what he did.
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>>77501495
King Of The Streets, it's a no rules cage fighting promotion in Sweden. All the fighters are ultras.
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>>77501565
>ultras.
ultra retarded?
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>>77503356
They will still beat you up though
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>>77503417
Being a stupid thug is not something to be proud of
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>>77496204
try-hard beaner with CTE detected.
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>>77503445
He can still beat you up though
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>>77489771
martial art is for dumbasses. Adulthood is realizing is takes more intelligence being a good weightlifter then mma fag.
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>>77504031
They can still beat you up though
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>>77500225
And they still can't lift as heavy as actual weightlifters
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>>77499589
Literally nothing. If you’re stronger and faster you can just manhandle the BJJ fags. Smash their head into the concrete. Whatever. It’s all cope from these buffoons.
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>>77493955
Nah
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>>77496238
You fuckers are so delusional. Next you’ll tell us BJ Penn would arm bar a grizzly bear.
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Iff BJJ worked, then in theory a good enough BJJ practitioner could submit a Grizzly bear. And yet, nobody sane actually believes this. That’s because everybody knows deep down sheer power trumps skill and technique. That’s just a law of nature and if you don’t get that as an adult man you’re unironically a fucking retard.
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>>77493038
So why didnt he?
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>>77489771
I've lived like a nigger, so take my word with a grain of salt. You're fighting one guy? His buddy was out grabbing a bite with him so you're fighting two. Not that you'd know, his buddy is acting like a bystander and is circling around behind you so he can sucker punch you and they both will jump you (yes, like niggers). The guy is on his own? Not quite, he carries a weapon with him at all times so your martial arts mean little unless you are built different or also have a weapon. He beat you fair and square so that's it right? Just dust yourself off, take the l, and walk home ashamed right? No, you're fighting a total baboon that wants to break all of your limbs for no other reason other than the fact that he can and he might get some street cred as "that crazy mofo you don't want to fight". You beat him fair and square and you live in the area? He is going to grab his friends and jump you on the way home and beat you half to death, if not finish the job. Martial arts teach you how to fight, but not what a real fight is. I've seen a boxing motherficker get flattened by a retard named after a sound effect just because he kept throwing haymaker after haymaker while the boxing dude just sat there and tried to block everything. I'm no professional fighter, but I've been involved in enough real life situations to know that I prefer living in the south among white people now
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thread full of hobbyists that think jiujitsu works because gordon ryan is on enough gear to supply a small battalion overestimating their ability vs an actual athlete and people that don't train that think if they ran his cycle they could just slam anyone that dares to pull guard in the street attempting a triangle downplaying the fact that anyone with more than a year of training would hook the leg here >>77489936 *before* the guys already holding your life in his hands. both ignoring that the slam would be legal under existing adcc rulesets as long as the sub was locked in. train because its fun. if youre strong enough to pull that shit off you'll be the one saddled with any actual athlete or powershitter that comes in for a trial class because 46 year old brown belt desk jockey that hasnt touched his toes since high school is scared of "spazzy" training partners.
the majority of people in the gym might dick around with kettlebells om their own time once or twice a week, hit a yoga class once or twice a month. if youre strong, in shape, and well trained you can get more hard rounds in. you can stick around for striking too when you have the lungs for it. do that too. theyre both fun. neither of them make you immune to bullets but its not like a 405 bench does either. you spastics not shitting on rock climbing or mountain biking or surfing or whatever but acting like anyone that practices martial arts is a moron because "it doesnt work if i poke your eyes or youre fighting a bear" just come off kind of pathetic
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A little off topic, but something I'm proud of
>be me, fat guy trying to gain muscle and lose weight
>friend makes me go to a concert and go into the mosh pit
>pit isn't at all what I expected, just people bumping into each other softly and pumping their fists
>some autist squares up like a sumo wrestler on a dude, but the guy walks away
>I take his place
>little did he know, I watch sumo matches for fun
>imitate the stomps and little intro dances
>other guy shouts "fuck, alright"
>knuckles touch the ground and we bull rush each other
>feel he is wearing a sturdy belt, grab it and flip him onto his back
>another guy immediately lines up for a match
>mosh pit has become a sumo ring at this point, see performers looking at us weird
>beat him and move on
>rinse and repeat I don't know how many times
>feel like I'm dying, feel my heartbeat in my throat
>wobble over to the edge and ask buddy to grab me water
>guys I wrestled come over to hi five me and tell me how the mosh pit was legendary because of it
>performers throw a guitar pick at me
>I am the American yokozuna
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>>77504294
11/10 would sumo
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>>77504190
He can still beat you up though
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>>77504187
>He thinks a bear and a human male are the same thing
>Calling others stupid

Kek
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caring so much about fighting is something that people that got super bullied, molested, or whooped by their alcoholic dad care about. in fact, if you look at pro fighters, about half of them literally fit those categories.
fighting is largely athletics and weight prep.
most people have no reaosn to give a shit about it, they live in a civilized society. most people quit the first spar.
caring so much about who you can beat up as an adult is psycho behavior. if you care about self defense just carry a gun.
if youre trying to get pussy at bars by starting shit with people, you are probably somebody with not much to live for.
like alright bro you can beat someone in a fight... when you get your black belt is that gonna lalow you to travel back in time and fight your step dad? that gang of n'ergooders in that fateful summer of 92?
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>>77504920
Curious cope. They can still beat you up though

>I'm richer
They can still beat you up

>I'm stronger
They can still beat you up
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I'm 30 years old. I have never got into a fight. I've never had a reason to. I've never tried to prevent getting into a fight nor have I backed off when tried to get intimidated.
I'd rather look good than win imaginary fights.
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>>77504944
>I never got into a car crash so I don't wear a seat belt
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>>77504935
ok but so what
i live in a constitutional carry and stand your ground state

i dont think i would ever be persistent about stand your ground but ultimately if someone threatening tried to attack me, i have people that depend on me being alive and healthy. im not gonna run any risks because some bully victim decided he wants to try his adult karate out on me
you will understand how asinine and childish the idea of caring about a "street fight" is when you get older and further removed in time from being in public school. public schools are straight up prison social dynamics, which is why i think so many guys in their 20s care so much about "STREET FIGHTS"

most people decent at fighting arent going around starting shit with people for the most part anyway. all the gyms ive trained at will kick you out if they find out you do anything like that.
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>>77504240
>but not what a real fight is

What makes what you're talking about any more real or any more of a fight? This sounds fucking stupid
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>>77504935
When you're an adult man with a real job you have a lot of shit going on in your life. "Yeah but I bet that big buff guy can't beat me in a fight tho" should be the last thing in your little head.

Most of the big roid bros/dedicated lifters I have met in my life were very chill to be around. They only cared about their own discipline/sport. But a lot of fighters/martial "artists" I've met were insecure little shits, always trying to compare themselves to the big lifter guys saying things like "I could beat all of them, they are weak". The worst part is when these guys are well into their 30s or maybe even older, you can tell they are genuinely mentally stuck in their highschool years or something.

This is one of the reasons why bullying seems to work, because fighters were usually bullied in school and completely buck/mind broken for life. Must be really sad to spend more than 20 years trying to prove "you're the badass" to cope with all the suffering and humiliation you experienced as a teen
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>>77493031
>>77493587
>Graciefags actually believe this
Grats on the black belt though
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>>77489936
>>77490054
>why would you drop a guy on his head
maybe the retard on the ground should have just let go and conceded defeat instead of ending up with a broken neck like a retard?
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>>77493952
>He can still beat you up though
the only reason any of those reatrds can "beat up" anyone is because theres a ref preventing people from injuring themselves. in a fight. kek what a bunch of fucking pussies "martial artists" are. watch king of the streets and tell me any of those judo faggots could beat a single one of those street fighters
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>>77491750
kek youre so fucking butthurt. yes all sports are games, retard. youre playing at fighting, not actually fighting, otherwise one guy would die in the ring every time. but youre too much of a fucking pussy to try that for real.
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>>77491966
all sports are games. youre a faggot who likes touching other men
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>>77505065
>>77505460
>insane diatribe about why you refuse to try a new hobby
look at it as just something to do thats a little more exhilarating than playing call of duty 27 or watching the next spin off from the sheldon cooper cinematic universe. i promise you even if you dont stick with it you'll feel better for having tried it
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>>77505817
Scared cope
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>>77505460
They can still beat you up though
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>>77505812
Most of them train MMA and do judo throws and bjj techniques

I love it when soft clueless people talk like they know something
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sometimes it feels like gymgoers are the least annoying hobby athletes
looking jacked speaks on its own, if you lift and look like shit you usually keep it to yourself unless asked
other hobbyists have to be much more vocal about what they do hence they always try to make it their personality and end up being one trick ponies socially despite doing something often way more complex than lifting
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>>77504815
It’s an argument by analogy retard. If the dynamic exists with bears it exists with all animals. Why would you lose to a bear? Or a gorilla? Or a wolf? Is it because they have better BJJ skills. No dumbass. It’s because they have 10x more strength and speed and claws and skills can’t beat those.
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>>77507163
>It’s because they have 10x more strength and speed and claws and skills can’t beat those.
Who are you even arguing with? Fucking moron. There are literally weight classes. Size and strength matter, but it can definitely be mitigated depending on the size/skill gap
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>>77507163
Not me, I'm a black belt
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>>77507163
Yet a bjj blue belt kicks your ass regardless
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>>77489771
Just be white and carry a gun. If it's life or death, you have a gun. Otherwise, you're white. Just walk away. As shrimple as that.
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>>77509470
Gun is cope you can't use it when a bjj guy grabs your arm
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>>77507413
No, it literally cannot be mitigated beyond a point that is much lower than what you think it is.

>>77508028
Pure cope
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>>77509774
Scared cope
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>>77509470
Anon, a BJJ blue belt would just disarm you and then flying arm bar your gun arm off.
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>>77489771
This is what you actually look like
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>>77509713
>>77509782
>Meanwhile, in reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCZ9sIrjXpM
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>>77489953
I wouldnt had given a fuck about the rules of that gay ass tournament and i would had full blown football kicked his nuts at full force. Just for the lolz.
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>>77510432
No you wouldn't. Stick to reading about "lolcats" on the internet
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>>77499538
Trying too hard.
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>>77510464
Try me nigga
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>>77510578
You don't train so youd stumble over your foot and break your ankle or something as soon as someone got into a vague boxing/bjj stance
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Brown people know that the ultimate martial art is to always travel in gangs.
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the real secret is to be heavy
300kg lardass could eat a 60kg world champion brazilian
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>>77489771
>closeted gay and insecure about it, with extra steps
no thank you.
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>>77511151
ONE scramble and the fantasy is done
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>>77504814
>>77493038
prove it
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>>77493860
weak arms, I peeled some niggers arms off me in a backyard match and he kept sperging saying "YOUCANTDOTHAT YOUCANTDOTHAT"
Look, I pulled your hands apart because mine are stronger, much stronger, there are no rules against breaking your hold with raw power.
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>>77496835
tackling someone means youre a great fighter, yes. get over it.
in a fight if you one-shot someone with pure BVLL energy, the fight is over.
tactics came into combat when mass warfare began, where you couldnt just tackle and pummel someone because their kinsman would come along and club your head.

1v1 "tactics" are a fisherian runaway from practicing large unit tactics.
otherwise in a pure 1v1, one-shot potential is all that matters.
the throw-pummel method is the unrivaled king and if youre too weak or too light weight you lose every time and theres nothing to be done.
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>>77511573
Someone trained in fighting will beat up someone untrained
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>>77511586
Yeah sure it could work. Of course a heavyweight rugby/football athlete has an advantage over the everyday man

But a trained fighter is on another level. Size and strength matters but my money's still on the skilled guy
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>>77505772
Thank you

But that advice literally worked for me and they asked.
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>>77512290
Couldn't beat me up though, I have a black belt



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