I’m closer to 1pl8 OHP than I am to 2pl8 bench, 3pl8 squat or 4pl8 deadlift. I think I’ll have a 1pl8 OHP for reps in a month or two.
>>77491789I hit 1pl8 OHP (actually 145lb) but only 190 bench 235 squat and 355 dl then didnt lift for 6 years.Just started again last month and have reclaimed 1pl8 bench 2pl8 squat 3pl8 dl but none of my old numbers yetbut hoping to reclaim 1pl8 OHP in a few monthsSo yea I am with you 1pl8 OHP is definitely the easiest of the fourYou're gonna get it soon anon and in two years we are both gonna be sick cuntswagmi
>>77491789When I started out my OHP was already good and my bench and other lifts were abysmal. For quite some time my bench was barely higher than my OHP and when I hit 1pl8 OHP for reps my bench was like 70kg for reps and I was even further away from the squat and dl. Some people struggle with OHP, for some it's the easiest milestone to achieve. That said, while reaching 1pl8 OHP was easy for me, I really struggled hard to get it to bw.
>>77491789You should never stop doing ohp or whatever, keep doing it once a week or so and that will allow you to grow a bigger bench by not having to get your supporting muscles up to par and can just bench all the time.
>>77491789i hit 135x4 OHP in six months and i wasn't even OHPing for most of it, just AD press and BTN press in the smithi also just started diddlying after only doing RDLs up to this point, but i think i can get 4pl8 1RM by EOY if i try (but i probably won't, i'll have to start cutting before then)my bench sucks by comparison (1RM probably around 190) and i don't back squat
>>77491789yeah, i hit 1.5 ohp before 2 bench press. its normal, depends on your build and your priorities
>>77491935bait
>>77491953nope
>>77491789I started on Phrak's and remember my OHP and squat increased most consistently of those lifts, but I'd trained squats some before (former high school wrestler), so that could explain it.So long as you're progressing at least somewhat regularly you should keep doing what you're doing.
>>77491979yep
>>77492066why dont you believe me? what do i stand to gain from lying about my bench being shit?
>>77491789Timeline of my last 8 months (starting from dyel) was like:Month 4: 1pl8 OHP for repsMonth 7: 3pl8 squat for repsHaven't hit 2pl8 bench or 4pl8 deadlift yet. Have tendonitis which is slowing progress. Hit the arm workouts with more frequency than I could recover from as a natty.
Same here. Long arms, not that big chest or wide claviculars. If someone asked me to do 1pl8 oph (obviously with good technique, just bracing a lot and grinding with triceps) I would think nothing of it even if I don't train for it specifically. A fitting difficulty standard for me would be something like 75kg oph and 100kg bench.
>>77492519Pretty gifted in squats.
>>77492784Thanks, I'm really proud of my squats. Started with SL 5x5 which had me doing 5x5 of my 5RM squats 3 days a week. Or 75 5RM squats per week. Was one hell of a grind. 2pl8 bench will probably be my next milestone, I'm up to 215 lbs for reps.
>>77492817If you do 215 for reps there is no way you cannot do 2pl8 for 1. Go to the gym right now and do a 2pl8 bench. Right the fuck now, nigger. You got this.
>>77492817>>77492840Yes if he can do 95kg for reps then he obviously already has the 100kg without a question and can just do it. Which doesn't mean you should in general go to gym to _test_ your strength instead of building it, but you can test sometimes.
>>77492849I am not saying go to the gym to test constantly, but 2pl8 bench is one of the biggest early-mid milestones that exists if not the very biggest so it deserves to be tested right the fuck now
>>77492853Agreed.
>>77492840Thanks, I'll give it a try next session.
Is 1/2/3/4 for 1rm, reps, or sets?I feel like anything under 5x5 is cheating.Anyway,OHP: 115Bench: 220Squat: 185DL: 275
>>77492931based>>77492974I have always seen the milestones as being for 1rms.
>>77492974>Bench: 220>Squat: 185>DL: 275Well that's one way to say you skip leg day
i'm 1234 for reps, 2pl9, dyel, 1rm, natty
>>77493097if your bench isnt higher than your squat are you even a gymbro
>>77493097I do marathon training, so I purposefully don't max out legs because I'm already running 6 days a week.
>>77493166Thank you for giving me an excuse to quit squats again nigger>>77493348basedCurrently I am squatting a bit more than I am benching but I hate squats so my long term intent is keep squat and bench 1:1, will I fuck up my proportion if I do that for many years?
>>77491789I got 1 OHP in less than a year.It took me 5 years to get 4 DL, mainly because I kept getting injured (bad form)
>>77493356If you are interested in a normal weightlifting progression, squats will be higher than bench. You only see T-rex proportions when people are squatting like 5 times a week.
I'm over 1 and 2 plates for OHP and bench respectively and hit 3pl8 squat but I'm stuck on 3pl8 deadlift. It's maddening.
>>77493365Right but I enjoy lifting in general but I hate squats so I prefer to minimize squats so I dont hate going to the gym. I just wanna know if I will end up as a leglet if I go light on squats and keep them 1:1 with bench. I love pushing my limits on bench but I fucking hate it on squatsI go heavy on deadlift and do some cardio if that matters
>>77493373Why is deadlift so hard for some people? I am at lmao1pl8 bench and lmao2pl8 squat yet I am at 3pl8 dl (shit numbers yes but I just started lifting again a month ago, used to be able to go heavier on all).Do you use mixed grip? I find mixed grip makes deadlifting heavy way easier than double overhand or double underhand.I also add weight each rep after warmupsi.e. yesterday my deadlifts were 135x5, 225x3, 245x1, 275x1, 295x1, 315.My 315 was an imperfect rep but later this week I am gonna do a perfect 315I am a dyel noob so dont put too much weight on my opinions but I am adding 10+lb/week to my dl and this is whats working for me
>>77493374Try cycling then. I wouldn't overthink it.
>>77493386No clue, makes no fucking sense to me. I do use mixed grip. I even tried sumo to test and that felt worse. I've had people check my form and everything.
>>77491789for some, 1pl8 OHP is the easiest milestone to reach. for others, it's the last one in the 1/2/3/4
>>77493386>yesterday my deadlifts were 135x5, 225x3, 245x1, 275x1, 295x1, 315.sounds like you're progressing, try to bang out more reps in the 225-275 range before adding weight to the bar.
closer to a 2pl bench than I am a 1pl ohp. Cant seem to make progress with my ohp. at 185 rn for bench while only at 80 for ohp.
>>774917892 pl8 bench is actually more equivalent to 4pl8 squat, 5pl8 dead and 1.5pl8 ohp
>>77492420He's coping. Don't mind him.>>77491789Keep going as hard as you have been on OHP. Someday your other lifts will vastly outpace it eventually anyway.
>>77491789I can do 1pl8 OHP for 4 and have done 2pl8 medium grip bench for 1 (probably had more, maybe 2-3 reps is my max); squat is at 2pl8 for 6 and DL is like 3pl8 for 5-10 (I barely do it)Moral: don't waste time with calisthenics for legs, just LIFT FUCKING WEIGHTS
>>77491953nta, i was the samei also think good ohp can stunt your bench form if you're new and not careful because you'll put too much weight on your shoulders instead of using your chest like you should
>>77494474>squat=benchHOLY FUCKING BASED
>>77493386After 3pl8 deadlifts get exponentially harder. You can get completely gated on grip strength and just not be able to hold the bar for all your reps. Also it can cause spine pain if you go too fast.
>>77494755Nah I don't think it's good at all. I have to atone for my past sins by squatting extra hard now
you got it bro
>>77491789I'm convinced that 90% of the people who say this stuff aren't strict pressing.
>>77496687I actually got to 1pl8 OHP for 4 while my bench is still 205 lb for 6. AND I've trained bench more often than ohp.
People who squat >1pl8 are skinny dyels or fat powershitters
>>77494755>225 x 1 = 225 x 6
>>77496687>strictAlways a way to gatekeep, eh what?>you're not doing exactly the thing I think is right so none of your numbers are real
>>77496687>I'm weak in this movement so you must be cheating
>>77491789I'll have 3pl8 squats in a month or two at most, but i am nowhere near 2pl8 bench -80 kilos- or 4pl8 deadlift. what do I do? My squatting strength far surpassed my other lifts
i do 1pl8 ohp and 2pl8 bench for reps, 3pl8 squat for 1rm, and i dont like deadlifting
>>77498313I guess you should quit bench pressing. Maybe turn around on the bench so you're doing it as a laying leg press instead.
>>77498421my friends all say that my proportions fucking suck for bench pressing but whatever, I'll have a 2pl8 bench no matter what lol. I OHP 52.5 kilos as opposed to my 80 kilo bench
>>77496687why are you convinced of this?
>>77493386>Why is deadlift so hard for some people?my dainty wrists i can't grip what my legs could push
>>77491789I had a 154 lb OHP before I was near 2pl8 bench lolJust one of those things
>>77494755Not that anon but similarly I broke my back and currently my squat for reps is the same as my OHP (200 lb)
1pl8 OHP standard is stupid, it's too easy of a goal
>>77498949Yeah it should be 1.5/2/2/4 (unironically)
>>77498978That squat has to be a typo
>>77491789Currently bulking, approaching 1/2/3/4 for working sets>OHP 5x5 @ 55kg>Bench 5x5 @ 95kg>Squat 3x5 @ 142.5kg>DL 3x5 @ 170kgAt the rate I'm going, I'll hit 60kg OHP then 100kg bench and hopefully 180kg DL before the end of the year185cm, 109kg
>>77498984nope fuck squats and fuck you
>>77498989>refugees per knife rapes instead of bullets per bald eagleanon this is a board of freedom
>>77498989>185cm, 109kgC H O N K
>>77498989I'm kinda freaking out. I can currently OHP 5x5 @ 70kg, but we have basically the same bench, what the fuckSame height as you, way fatter tho
>>77499081>fatter but higher OHP:bench ratiouh thats not normal is it?
>>77499081Do you do dips?I can do 2x5 at BW + 2plateI guess if you're heavier than me then weighted dips would be tricky, but I feel like smashing heavy sets of dips have been great for my bench
>>77499093I stopped benching when I did 5x100kg. I can currently do 1 or 2 100kg ohp and can probably bench more but I think it's funnier if I say I bench and ohp 100kg
>>77499137>europoor has never benched or OHPd 2pl8 but probably claims he has done bothgrim
>>77499142Bench doesn't help my clean/snatch, why would I do it
>>77499106I'm fairly certain I can't do dips at all. I'm currently about 115+ kg, maybe more. I will definitely add some more chest work though.>>77499093I don't know, man. When I was benching 2pl8 I OHP'd 90kg for two singles. I can do strict lat raises with 20kg. I think I legit neglected chest compared to shoulders and triceps. I do like 8 sets of chest per week, that can't be good right?
>>77498860A few reasons1. OHP is one of the most "cheated" of the big six>dropping hips>bending knees2. OHP is one of the slower progressing of the big six because the muscle groups it uses are much weaker>so if you're progressing from "can't do 1pl8 to doing 1pl8 for reps" in a month, you must be using a stronger muscle group3. OP is a faggot
>>77499290so you think 1pl8 OHP is measurably more difficult than the rest of 1/2/3/4? because i definitely don't
80x6 bench130x6 squat140x4 deadlift52.5x6 OHPmy goal is to hit 3pl8 squats, 1pl8 OHP and 160kilo deadlifts -all for reps- before the end of the year. Hopefully those are doable, im bulking to 85 kilos which should helpt. 178cm 78 kilobw
81x7 bench131x7 squat141x5 deadlift52.6x7 OHPt. 179cm 77 kilobw
>>77499448kekked
>>77499439Measurably more difficult? NoMeasurably easier? Absolutely not, and that's what OP's and others' posts imply.>I’m closer to 1pl8 OHP than I am to 2pl8 bench, 3pl8 squat or 4pl8 deadlift. I think I’ll have a 1pl8 OHP for reps in a month or two.>i hit 135x4 OHP in six months and i wasn't even OHPing for most of it
>>77491953It is possible to super suck at bench and to be good at getting the weight moving on ohp
>>77499450i AM the second poster you're quoting and i assure you my form is strict. legs together, 0 hip or knee drive, maybe just the slightest bit on the last rep where i'm allowing for a little cheat. and yes, the only times i OHPed for the first 20 or so weeks was when the smith machine was broken. though an AD press (what i was doing) is basically just an OHP with leg drive taken out of the equation and strict form enforced by stabilizing the torsothe simple fact is that we are all built differently and have different strengths and weaknesses. some people can rep 135 on bench the first day they walk in the gym and get to 2pl8 in 6 months. it took me 2.5 months to get 135, and i probably won't hit 225 until around a year. virtually no one hits 1/2/3/4 all at once. your assessment that OHP is or is not measurably easier doesn't say anything except about yourself. in my case, yes, it literally is *measurably* easier than 2pl8 bench. i've measured italso>>I’m closer to 1pl8 OHP than I am to 2pl8 bench, 3pl8 squat or 4pl8 deadlift. I think I’ll have a 1pl8 OHP for reps in a month or two.there's nothing ridiculous about this statement at all. if you're close to a 1pl8 OHP there's no reason to believe you can't be repping it 1-2 months from now. it's not like it's a 3pl8 bench where there could be half a year between when you first hit it and when you're repping it for volume
When I was 4 years old I saw something like a strongman competition on TV where they were doing the single dumbbell press and I was so fascinated by it that I started doing it with my Mom's gymnastic dumbbells and I kept doing it all the way until my teens. At that point I already had heavier adjustable dumbbells but was completely clueless about lifting or any other lifts for that matter. I was mostly just doing curls, Arnold press or the single db press. By the time I learned about lifting and touched a barbell for the first time I could already strict press 110 and that was almost exactly my bench, too.
>>77491789My OHP best is currently 3@60KG & 1RM@65kg while I struggle to bench 85kg, what gives ?
I felt like a God when managed 65kg 3x5 strict.
>>77493094Update on this: benched 225 for 2 reps last session. Thanks for the inspiration brother.
>>77500598Yeah and the foids miring you is insane because most can't lift 1pl8
I started out as a weak fuck who could barely OHP just the bar a few times. Now I do 8x45kg which is still crap I guess but hey at least it's improvement and only took a few months. I could maybe do it with 50kg but I weigh only 80kg and feel like my form would suffer.
>>77501814Keep it up anon, congrats on the progress. You can easily get to repping 1 plate with strict form at 80kg but it will take at minimum a few more months if not a year, but you'll get there
>>77501772Based as fuck, congrats bro.
1.5 months back into lifting after 5.5 years off and I am now up to 105 OHP, 145 bench, 225 squat, 315 dl1pl8 OHP is going to come way before 2/3/4
>>77503795your bench form is gigashit with that ratio
>>77503798What? Are you saying my bench should be higher or lower? As far as I know my form is fine, yesterday I did a 145 which was easy then attempted 155 and got it half way up.What should my bench be at next to my other numbers?
>>774917891 plate OHP is the bare minimum warm up weight if you're a male.
>>77503808Good thing I'm female and warm up with 155 then, heh
>>77503813Woman (male) isn't a female
>>77492974>I feel like anything under 5x5 is cheating.You aren't even close so why are you saying that?Anyways, for actual 1rms it counts. Not for 'theoretical' ones.
1pl8 OHP x 10 (today)2pl8 bench x 10 (2025)3pl8 squat x 24pl8 diddly x 12still look DYEL at 83 kg
>>77503817I am ftm, I have xx chromosomes, and I don't take hormones I just dress like a man and identify as a man, but I am female
>>77503825>4pl8 dlis that 12 singles or 12 nonstop?
>>7750382912 with a little touch-and-go at the bottom (on a deadlift platform) so it bounces and cheats a bit
>>77503831Nice, thats a lot of reps for 4pl8, keep it up bro
>>77503826Tits or gtfo
My best strict OHP was 210. Best bench was 315. My shoulders have been fucked since I was a kid though.
>>77503855why do you want to see my man tits? are you gay?
>>77503861Follow the rules, tits or gtfo
>>77503863rule 31 only applies to women though
>>77503863>>77503874You guys are both unfunny, please stop this gay slapfight
>>77504021ok
I am going to hit lmao1pl8 OHP by Halloween.
>>77503825Absolutely no way you look dyel if you can pull this off
>>77505711most people still look dyel at those numbers
>>77505713Nope. You're just comparing yourself to roiders
>>77505797most people hit 1/2/3/4 before they have abs
>>77505868Most people with abz are 150 lbs and can't touch those numbers, or are roiders, don't worry about that it's a dumb criteria
>>77505868Abs show up at 12% bodyfat even if you're a dyel.
>>77507001no they dont retard, look at any auschwitz moder>>77506174>fit>no abslaughing_girls.gif
>>77491789I can strict press 130kg and bench 200kg. Closing in on 3/5/6/6.5
>>77507198post body
>>77491789That's fairly normal, I hit 1pl8 OHP before any of the others too. I find as long as you OHP consistently (most don't) you'll rapidly progress to 1.5pl8 but then hit a brick wall, and then it takes months to add a few pounds. But the thing is, you also quickly regress when you stop OHPing, i didn't train it for about a month and half (I don't drive and my local gym was closed, bullshit renovations) and could only do 70kg for 6, when before stopping I had 90kg for 4For me the hardest of 1/2/3/4 is the 3pl8 squat, where it only counts if you hit depth, I think most people don't even hit parallel which is why so many claim to have massive squat numbers yet their legs are tiny
>>77507165I WAS an Auschwitz moder when I was a swimmer. I never touched weights and had amazing abs.
>>77507532>swimmerthere ya go
MY STATS:>240 BENCH >150 OHP>320 SQUAT >360 DEADLIFTWhy is deadlift so hard brosDeadlift feels so far away...
>>77491789My ohp is dogshit. Shoulders are easily my weakest lift. Deads & bench are okay.
>>77508307do mixed grip then stop being a faggot and lift it
>>77493386some people have proportions better for certain lifts and trhey come a lot easier. plus when someone makes gains on one lift faster than others they tend to train that more.
>>77507649What the fuck is that supposed to mean? You should kill yourself
>>77508307pls be kg
>>77498313Shit dude are you me?>t. hit 3pl8 squat a week ago, bench stuck at 80 whilst OHPing 1pl8 and scared to do deadlifts stuck at 130 kg like a pussy
>>77508576how about you kill yourself instead faggot
>>77509529This shit just goes over my head. But I guess it just shows how different people are built. I hit 2 plate bench with about 6 months of serious lifting, 275 in a key a year, but squats, shit took for ever to hit 3 plates. Finally got a 315 squat when my bench was 295. I now bench 315 with a 345 squat and 400 dead lift. I yes I do work out all lifts equally.
>>77509938How long have you been lifting now? How much could you bench day 1? Are you a manlet?