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i'm dying

>>77496958
>/run/ /troon/ - Running General

DYEL general

Damn it, I don't want to rest.

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Did another madman workout today

>started running last november
>never did any events or anything
>did a few 10 mile runs
>lost motivation
>haven't run in like 2 months
>trying to get back into running
>can feel the motivation coming back
>it's been like 95+ outside
>don't want to go to indoor track because it's just as hot but no airflow
>figure I could get up early and go
>take ZMA, 5-HTP and Krill oil to dream
>ask a result my dreams are extremely vivid
>hate waking up early because my dreams give me a better reality than I could ever hope for
>the longer I sleep the more I dream
>dreaming is literally the only thing I look forward to in life
>really want to get back to running though

This fucking sucks bros and going to bed early won't help as I have that delayed sleep phase shit. I could go after dark but it seems too dangerous. I used to cycle around 2-3 AM but as I get older I get more and more skittish and i can't fathom going out after dark to run, there's just too much risk.

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>>77496967
A lot of runners troon in my experience. I used to run with picrel

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>>77496967
God I wish but:
1. fat
2. wide ass shoulders

I'll just stick to being some crossdressing twink faggot tysm

>>77497131
Nigga if your dreams are the only thing you're looking forward to you need to see someone about this pronto

>>77497195
>you need to see someone about this

Getting help for mental health would be unironically worse for my career than being a full blown alcoholic. Something about being trustworthy or w/e the fuck you call it.

>>77497249
you have a clearance?

>>77496958
Men who run and have that quintessential "I just escaped from auschwitz" look are fucking disgusting and pathetic.
Eww.
Is it impossible to be running at competitive levels but still look good and not like a wek little hoggoblin?

>>77497302
Sure, depending on what you consider competitive. "Hybrid athletes" are very popular right now. Look up someone like Trevor Giampa, 2:2x marathon and 315 bench

>>77497312
>Hybrid athletes

>>77497312
>steroid users
into the trash

Do we really have to spend the first posts in every new bread explaining why running more than 100 metres doesn't instantly turn you into a transgender gulag prisoner? It's just fat person cope. If you cannot comfortably run a 5k or 10k you are not fit, the end, stop replying to bait.

Went out rooning last night, hill reps, there's a good hill near me that's almost exactly 400 metres that I run up and down.

>>77497473
>Went out trooning last night

>>77497473
If you cannot comfortably run a 20 minute 5k or 45 minute 10k you are not fit
ftfy

>>77496558
Not until it has you running for 10 or 20+ minutes nonstop, anyway.

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Hello. Just started running for the first time in many years, want to get my cardio up. Currently doing a 5.6km run about every other day, but don't have a strict schedule. I run 5m, then walk 2, then run 7, walk 3, run 7 and walk 3 until done.

Is this a good idea? Will this help me improve? Should I be more ambitious?

>>77497930
I hope that's 5 minutes and not 5 metres lol. Sounds alright. Maybe try to job lightly instead of walking if you can. Also have a clear plan for how you're going to go from what you're doing to a continuous 5k. I've never done it but what you're doing sounds a lot like c25k, maybe look at that.

>>77497934
yeah 5 min lol

What would be a good timeframe to start upping my difficulties? A week? Two? I checked out c25k and the like, but it seems like I'd have to devote myself to following an exact plan and that just aint gonna happen

>>77497938
If you're recovering well between runs then you can probably run for an additional minute before resting every run or every couple of runs. Consider that c25k can get any unfit sod to a 5k in a matter of months and plan accordingly.

>>77497951
thanks anon :3

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>>77497930
>>77497938
>>77497954
Its good you've started, anon. I can not imagine any at least half-responsible man not able to jog 5km except for reasons of old age, illness or disabilities.

Every other day is fine and alternating between running and walking is fine. You may wanna try decreasing the run speed and increasing duration of said intervals. You will be able to finish the entire 5.6km jogging/slow running in no time. Godspeed!

>>77497249
Pilot? Zogbot? Contractor? If so and you have cash you can see a therapist under a fake name

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Hmm... Nyo.

>>77498085
Pretty gud. 1080s?

>>77498108
Yeah. I'll probably get a new pair around 1200 kilometers.

>>77497262
>>77497131

Yeah. The whole "getting help won't affect your clearance" is a huge fucking lie.

Anyway I did go out and run, 90F with a feel of 97F at 1030AM. What a mistake that was. i ended up walking most of the 5k I did. On the upside I did get over the thing of not wanting to take my shirt off and run so there's a positive atleast.

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i've been running 5k's almost daily for the last 7 weeks now so i figure it's time to ask, whats the best rooning shoes for around $200 ?
my current ones are falling apart amd i don't feel like shattering my knee's anymore.

>>77497930
personally i would aim to find a pace you can just run / jog at without stopping and build upwards from there.
eventually you'll enter a meditative like state where you zone out and without realizing it you'll start getting faster and faster.

>>77498276
Yeah, I used to have one. From what I remember, there were some issues where it was fine, but others were secretly a huge fuck no. After I stopped doing green badge shit, I tried to get help but my mental state was already too fucked. so now I just run.

>>77498278
I generally trust this website for shoe reviews
https://runrepeat.com/

For daily running? new balance 1080s.

did 18 miler today

naht reddy for that desu
fink garn lower the training load and intensity agen now

the run itself felt very good, mainly coz i was going slower den usual especially first half

but not happy wiv the post-roon injury status. not awful. just not as good as it should be at all

>temp went back up where I am
>Tried to run a 5 mile which I just did earlier this week
>Gassed out hard several times, had to walk for probably a fifth of it

>>77497930
It's good IMO.
I started out walking 12 miles 4 times a week at a 20ish minute/mile pace, eventually race-walking down to 15-16 minutes after a few months and now run 10 minute miles. This was done over the course of 7-8 months as a fat cunt.

12 mile 4 hour walks 4 times a week is insane imo

>>77498298
cheers.
nike vomero plus' seem to be the most rec'd for daily but i'll look at the new balance 1080's to.
thanks anon.

>>77499113
>My life is miserable. Music is all I enjoy now and I have and having no hobbies helps free up time for trooning.

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>>77499084
My life is miserable and devoid of any socializing. Music is all I enjoy now and and having no hobbies helps.

>>77499115
Upvoted good sir!

mayn, i used to listen to hip hop and death metal when running as it helped the time pass quicker but nowadays i really enjoy just running with no audio whatsoever, its much more peaceful and relaxing.

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>>77499125
agreed, especially in remote areas/hikes but living in a dense city with car earrape fucking BLOWS

>Gale force winds and pouring rain all morning
>Clears up for a while, looks like I can go out for a run
>Try for a 5k PB
>Right at the turnaround point, get absolutely hammered with sideways rain the whole way home
>Clears up just as I arrive, and stays fairly nice for the rest of the afternoon
It was still kind of fun, maybe I should get into trail running.

>>77498085
Coming on a thousand kilometers on mine too, gel venture 11. Got them early february. I feel like they're still fine, which is good because I can't afford to replace them right now lmao.

>>77498975
Yeah same, ish. Started with a stationary bike in like november 2024, then walked around march 2025, then power walked around idk june, and when I couldn't walk faster I started running in september.

>>77499125
Never felt the need for music while running, I just enjoy pushing myself a bit.
I used to think jogging was dogshit boring and "wow I get why people listen to music while 'running'", but now jogging's gotten even easier too, it's almost like, idk meditative and restful, which deletes time nicely.
>>77499165
idk when my usual paths got destroyed by heavy rains, I went to run at and around the park in the city, it wasn't so bad. Now yeah sure, I'd rather not go there, but it wasn't horrible. I did shoulder check some dumbass who wasn't looking where he was going and nearly collided into another runner coming the opposite way, though lmao.

>>77499367
Oh yeah, speaking of being unable to walk faster.
I feel like I'm getting stuck again for the same reason as walking that I just can't move my legs fast enough, I can't quite go beyond 160 spm average unless I'm sprinting.
Any tips? I guess besides "just move faster lol". I'm 192cm tall, I understand the taller you are the lower spm, but I'm pretty sure I'm still way below average. Even on intervals when I'm trying, I'm barely at 165 spm.

>Take a break for a week after a m*rathon
>Eat hardly anything but protein and fatty chocolates and ice creams
>No running either, just upper body stuff
>Almost PB today's half mara
Carbcels...?

>>77499407
imagine how much faster you would have been if you'd eaten the c*rbs

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>>77499387
I'm on the same boat as a 5'8 manlet.
I love using a metronome and have previously kept it at 190 bpm for months but having recently increased it to 220 bpm has helped with a minor improvement in consistency.

>>77499407
As far as I know you need carbs even when your metabolism is using mostly fats. Without carbs there wouldnt be any use of the fats. So, it may be that the few carbs you've taken in, may have been enough for your particular setup... or >>77499414 (more likely, imo).

This sounds anecdotal and maybe it is at this point, but few years ago this is what I found in the back of that rabbithole

half marathon tomorrow.
Knee flareups since april.
Not much (~8) runs in august.
Wish me luck bros

>>77499387
You need to become The Chad, with tiny, beetle-like strides.
Your problem isn't that your spm is too low, your problem is that your strides are far too long. And you're probably also landing with your foot out in front of your centre of mass ("overstriding"), which adds braking force and makes you slower. Your foot should land under your centre of mass and travel backwards, NOT land in front of you.

Try mentally visualising gum on the bottom of your shoes, and that you're trying to scrape it off with every stride.
You can also try this exercise: stand on a stationary treadmill and pick your feet up and down on the spot. Trying to "peel" them off the ground, heel coming off first and then toe. Then, while still doing that same motion, start the treadmill at a super low speed. Then bring it up to a walking speed, still doing that same motion.
If you don't have a treadmill, you can do the same thing on the ground. Just try to lean forwards slightly when you start moving, bending at the ankles rather than the hips. The idea is that you're trying to teach yourself to land with your foot directly underneath you, and to have much shorter strides.

parkrunchads rise up

>>77499503
Fukken tear it up mate (the track, not your knee)

>>77499590
Ohhh, shit, very good point. I remember minding that hard trying to fix my form long ago, but I probably slipped over time, or just never managed as well as I thought I did. Going to check on that Monday, thanks Anon.

>>77499503
Good luck anon-kun!!! Rooting for ya! ^__^

i jogged a 12 minute mile without my calf popping

>>77496958
he shaves his legs

Been running 5k once a week for a few months, recently my left arsecheek has started to hurt quite a bit, not just when running but after as well. Any advice?

Bought Evo SLs and the insole feels like it came pre lubed for her pleasure. It is a horrifying experience to run in.

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Why do so many women not know how to run?

>>77500114
I've seen some who were serious. They were fast, had good form, and could do real distances. While pushing a baby stroller.
I think the rest are just in it to try and meet guys though.
(but they never want to meet me)

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>>77500114
atrocious, simply atrocious

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Going to try and do slightly longer runs on Saturdays now. Only added a few tenths of a mile today, but will keep expanding. It fucking hurt a lot, but whatever.
Saw 1 heron, no buns.

im goona roon

Taking part in the annual 10km street run in my hometown next morning. This will be my 4th time participating. My worst result so far was just under 46:30, but I'm probably gonna finish somewhere between 47-49 mins this time. Taking a multimonth break due to a foot injury led to me starting this year from the gutter level. Send me your energy tomorrow frens, I'll need it.

>>77500346
sending energy, good luck. What's the winning time like? There are two big historical events for my local (20k pop) town, a 5k and 10k, and I think I'll enter the 5k next year now I'm taking running seriously and getting faster.

Ran a 5k in 20:06, can I just say I can run a 20 minute 5k now or do I actually have to do it?

>>77500392
Thanks, kind anon. The winning times were between 33:30 and 35:30 for the last few years. Attendance varies a bit, and so does the overall level.
Good job on the 5k! My best is 20:21, so at least I have no doubt I have no such bragging rights here. But you might be close enough for this to slide.

>sometimes lower legs hurts when running
>sometimes its the lower back
>sometimes its both
Fuck me, I am not even old or fat, maybe I should switch running to swiming.

>>77500478
Maybe you should do strength training and fix your form?

I bike every day to work, I go as fast as I can, always, because it's fun.

I can run 4 miles ez pz
I piss off my ligaments and shit before I run out of steam.

How can I take this cardio base and apply it to running without pissing off my connective tissues.

>>77500554
Run regularly but keep it short and just add a small amount of volume every week. Like a mile or two at most spread across the entire week. I did this and can run 90 mile weeks now like it’s nothing. Took a while but it worked

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>>77500554
This is a pretty dangerous combo, fren. Make sure to be extra careful. Cardiovascular capacity is solid, but pay good attention to any signs your body may give you in terms of tendons, muscles and even bones, actually. I fucked myself up couple of times coming from a strong cycling season switching into running - I used to kind of alternate between winter and summer. Bad idea.
>>77500558
this basically

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I never feel like I'm doing well enough to post on /roon/. I used to be faster but I think I was pushing myself too much and it was doing more harm than good, requiring longer recovery time. it feels a lot better now. even though I'm slower I can roon more often

>>77500609
I find it really neat anon :-) it's cool g

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sweaty sex and pissing with Hull

>>77500740
i dont like her desu

summat bout her face and stupid voice that annoyys me

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just finished week 2 of couchto5k and i am fucking destroyed, seriously. it was only a 3 min run and a 1 min walk x5
afterwards, my chest was somewhat tight, eating/drinking felt off, and i had a sharp pain in my lower left abdomen that went away after like 30 minutes
i'm not sure how i'm going to get through next week's 5-6 minute runs, but i'm going to keep fighting

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morning joog

>>77500773
it's ok to take a few days off and then pick it up again if you're totally wrecked

>>77500773
Run slower.

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Hey /fit/, co/ck/ here. My girlfriend is running her first marathon in a few weeks. Can yall recommend some...recovery meals of some sort I could make for her?

>>77500802
>Inb4 she's some lardass doing it for a bucket list and takes 5 hours to finish

>>77500819
Nah, I'm the lardass blunt smoker.

I'm running in an actual proper race tomorrow! Woot woot!

>>77496963
Fridge

>>77500609
Yeah, I did the same early on. Eventually you can just run fast again, but this time, your bpm fell off a cliff and instead of being tired when you finish running an hour, you feel like you can just go another hour. Just keep it up.

>>77500773
Run slower.

Ive been ruuuning for some time now and i start to wonder, is it even possible to socialize in this hobby?Lets compare it to say weight lifting,you go to the gym,meet up with your buddies spot each other make small talk between reps etc but none of that is really an option during runnig,especially outdoors? You cant talk because it fucks with your breating,its annoying when you cant run at your own pace since you have to adapt to your groups pace,i really cant see this being enjoyable as a group activity

>>77501245
socialising through running is way easier than socialising through lifting, especially if you don't already have friends to do it with. Go to a run club, local races, etc.
>can't talk because it fucks with your breating
get better at running and socialise before and after the running.

>>77501247
>socialising through running is way easier than socialising through lifting
how so?care to elaborate?

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>roll ankle hiking
>no problem
>knee discomfort/pain
>no problem
>only drank 3L of water on a fucking 100F day 10 miler
>no problem
>minor cold and flu symptoms
>can’t bring myself to run
>lasts for a week
why

>>77501264
At run clubs or races most people stand about doing nothing before and after the running and talk. Afterwards in particular it's very easy to introduce yourself to someone you were running alongside. If it's a club and an easy training session it's easy to join in with a conversation while running. Plus there's always a good topic of conversation (running) to fall back to.

When I went to the gym regularly I didn't know anyone there. Nobody approaches other people, you're all doing different things, people don't want to be disturbed. Maybe this is a cultural thing but I don't see how you could meet people going to a gym on your own. At best you recognise other regular gym goers and nod at them.

Also I think cardio lowers peoples inhibitions and gets everyone more friendly.

>>77501270
i see,hell i might even try joinnig a club myself.Thanks for the info anon

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What do u guys eat?

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>>77501245
Personally, I enjoy running for exactly the reason that it can be anything from undisturbed time alone to super social. Most of the times I enjoy being alone, but like once or twice a month I will show up to a fixed time runner gathering in my village. Mostly older folks there; think 50+. Very enjoyable experience from time to time

>>77500346
Did it! 45:55 net official, 45:44 from the start line to the finish. That's above expectations by at least a minute.
Of course the last straight stretch before the finish was upwind. Blowing like 15km/h today kek.

>>77496958
where to get roon gf exactly like the girl on the left

>>77496958
>dont want to go for a run
>go anyway
>feel great
i love to roon bros

>>77501368
Gotta shave your ape legs first

So I am a new runner and just realized I can consistently run 10km if I run slowly (7:30 min per km) but running slowly is so fucking boring!

how do I cope? Music isn't doing it for me anymore

>>77501281
eggs and candy
>>77501306
Congrats

anyone else run on an empty stomach? i go when i wake up, have a little water, then just eat something when i get back

>>77501281
Non-stop, all the fucking time, the appetite has been horrifying since I passed the 45 miles per week. I cut my lunch into two because otherwise I'd just snack non-stop at some midpoint between lunch and dinner.

>>77501306
gz Anon.

>>77501632
No. I run like, 1h30~2H after breakfast or so.
I eat oats, yoghurt, bunch of fruits, some bread, some jam, drink tea, to answer earlier Anon. I drink my protein shake when I get home. Then after working and/or stretching, I have some fruit. Feels fine tbqh.
Then lunch I aim for 1/3rd whole-grain carbs, 1/3rd meat (mostly chicken breast, tofu, salmon and red meat once a week) and 1/3rd vegetables, banana after because it good, some cheese and a small piece of bread. Sometimes ice cream or cake or whatever the fuck, I don't care anymore, it's amazing.
Dinner I usually have soup, egg, slices of turkey breast, some yoghurt after. I still fucking snack on like, random biscuits and stuff but not as much as before, thank fuck.

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How do you manage recovery? It takes days before my legs feel okay to run again. Do you run on beat up legs? I used to do that and I felt like it was hurting me and making me slower
The real challenge of rooning and lifting in parallel is recovery. Im not a teenager anymore with superhuman instant recovery

>>77501693
Manage yourself and build up until you can.

>>77501693
Alan thrall on YouTube has good content for this

>>77501693
When are your rest days? How often are you lifting and are you running/doing legs on the same day?

>>77500802
phwoar diss kittingtonshire is me

>>77501701
Been lifting plus "gym cardio" on either the bike or stair master 4 days a week, plus two runs and one day off.
I think part of why running is so hazardous is im 6'3 (190cm) nd 200lb (90kg)

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>>77501281
oatmeal and egg whites, broke as shit

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the greatest running gear ever created

>took like 2.5 months off running
>feels like I'm starting from 0

This shit fucking sucks man

>>77500768
ok faggot

joining a new gym that has a run club. hopefully they are not all slow middle aged women

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Apparently my town is starting a cross country club for youths (younger than HS XC), and they need volunteers as coaches. Not sure if I should apply. I like to run, but I've never coached or been coached (other than Daniels Running Formula book). I don't even like children, though maybe I could tolerate kids who run.

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I get pain under my right knee on the right side that extends down to my lower shin and idk why its happening. First started 3 months ago and I thought it was an overuse injury so I haven't been running the past couple months apart from a single run in july. This week I started running again with half the distance I was doing back then per run and the pain came back on the third run right at the start. I don't know why its my dominant leg only either. pain doesnt happen when I bike or use the elliptical but theres lingering pain whenever I have to walk or go up stairs. can't find the name of the injury to do more research

>>77501963
go for it anon. maybe something neat will happen

Tfw perma injured
Im starting to hate running

I'm running more but I'm getting slower.
This is temporary... right?

how do I get a runner gf

>>77502098
you have to be fast

>>77501977
I guess I can give it a try. Worst case is they think I'm a pedophile and tell me to leave.

>>77502099
do i have to catch her while she's running?

>>77502130
that isn't fast enough I'm afraid.

>>77501965
Sounds like a weak tibialis. Do tib raises every day until it improves.
If it's on the inside of your shin rather than the front, it could be shin splints. Fixed with a combination of stability shoes and "short foot" (high arch) drills.
If it's right up at your knee, it's the patellar tendon. Fixed with controlled deep knee flexion under load, eg slant board squats.
You'd probably benefit from some strength training in general, and maybe having another look at your running form.

>>77501963
why do you wanna apply?

>>77501963
stay away from the kids, sperg

anyone ever run a half/full marathon? how long did it take for you to train? seeing people do 10-13min/mile pacing seems so far me to reach..

>>77502270
>train

>>77502270
I ran casually for 7 years about 20-30 miles a week, then decided last year I would race, so I spent 8 months autistically obsessing over running and ran a 2:58:06 in my first marathon earlier this year. I am training for 2:48 this fall. Just build volume first and then run faster once you can run regularly without getting hurt

>>77502295
Did keep running during the marathon or do you ever take walking breaks? 3hrs is so fucking long

>>77502302
Then don't worry about it if all you're going to do is cry.

>>77502305
It was a pretty basic question, why are you so mad

>>77502302
I did not stop the entire time. But there’s no reason you can’t stop. But ideally you wait until you’re fit enough to run the whole way without stopping before you attempt a marathon. Lots of retards are signing up for them and barely training for them. I wouldn’t want to be one of those people which is why I waited so long before I ever signed up for a race.

>>77502270
I did a half a year ago. I already had decent-ish base, as I was doing a couple 10Ks per week. I told ChatGPT my weekly running schedule and current times, then had it generate a 2 month training plan for me to get up to my target pace by the race date. It worked.

>>77502207
A few reasons: I like running, and anything I can do to get more people into serious running would be good, I guess. Also, I always run alone, so it might be cool to be around other people who are into running. I tried local groups and things like ParkRun, but they were too cringe for me. Also, my whole life I've never done any kind of volunteer stuff, so why not. Also, I have nothing else going on.

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I WAS SO CLOSE AAAAAAAAAAAAH

Last time I came even close to a sub-30 I went back to the 32 min jail for like two weeks. It's gonna happen again.

>>77502270
Then don't do it? It's not complicated.
There's nothing wrong with sticking to 5k/10k races your whole life.

>>77502424
LOL
Please keep us updated.

>>77502538
I don't understand what's funny about this
But sure, I'll keep you updated if I actually do it.
And now I think I will since you laughed at me.

>>77502551
I know you don't.

Are the asics blast series really that good? I remember when I first tried them (NB5) my ankle got fucked up and was so for like 2 weeks. I initially blamed the shoes but I remembered when I used to run many years ago in those five finger shoes it was fine for ages then one day I got the same sort of ankle injury. Since everyone recommends them and rates them so highly I thought I would try a pair again

>>77502424
>>77502551

You're gonna be that weird ass dude nobody likes or trusts to be left alone before you're asked to leave and not return because people are uncomfortable assuming you even get that far.

quick what treadmill should i buy i live in canada btw

>>77502270
My long runs kept getting longer so I just did a half-marathon in the countryside alone one day. It was fun. Not a great time but whatever.

>>77502464
Good luck. Maybe don't go so fast on the first kilometer?

>>77502464
5:55 first km and you easily get it

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>>77501281
Wfpb .
Breakfast is 1c onions milk 100g oats 2c berries 2tbsp flax
Lots of fruit, ill eat either a brick of tofu or pack of tempeh or bowl of lentils as a snack every day.
Then soup based on potatoes and beans with whatever is seasonal. I eat like 3000 calories a day maintenance. Probably 10% fat max, upwards of 80g Fibre.
Never eat poison, and a lot of things are poison. Sheperd peppers and apples are in season rn so I just bought a crate of both.
No im not a horse, and fuck ketolards.

>>77501577
Be ever mindful
Abandon thoughts of self
See the world as empty
Stop having a zoomer mentality

Removed the insoles of my new Evo SLs and put in my 3 year old hoka insoles. I no longer feel like a frightened animal running on slick ice

4 months of running and I still get terrible runner's itch up my thighs. Fuck this, I'm quitting running. I'll just do jumping jacks or mountain climbers in my room instead.

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Got a 10K pr today lads.

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>>77501269
Bad diet, overtrained, poor aerobic base, bad mindset, bad technique, poor running/walking economy. Any combination of those, maybe all of them.

>>77503078
based route rigger

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Slop run. Whatever. Ran by some pawgs.

>>77497101
Holy fucking Jesus man. Wtf?
How long have you been running and how much do you weigh?

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Saw 3 buns today. Also a dead rat, which I didn't want to see...

>>77496958
Imagine running. Lmfao
So sad

>>77502270
I decided the most important things were overall mileage and maximizing carb intake during the race so I just ran easy as much as I could with 10k of subthreshold intervals every 3 days and a few longer runs to practice eating a bunch of gels
Worked just fine and I ran exactly in line with my 5k/10k vdot with even splits the whole race

>>77500951
Ywnbaw

>>77502582
They have trended to being softer as the models progress (and in turn a bit less responsive) so I haven't liked them. I loved the the NB4 but I only got about 100 miles out of my NB5s, but they were awesome for walking around in. I think there are better daily trainers out there, especially for the price, ASICS has shitty deals.

>>77502934
I felt this a couple times but only when my shoes were a bit loose. The thing that annoys me about my Evo SLs is that the laces suck... seems like such an easy and cheap thing for adidas to fix. I need to get around to ordering new laces for them.

>>77503040
buy some tights

>>77497312
You need steroids or 0.001% genetics to do that, preferably both.

>>77500114
Women are genetically less physically capable than men. This was known for all of recorded and unrecorded history up until 5 years ago. If you want a woman who runs fast, maybe you should get a girlfriend(male).

>>77501963
Sus

>>77503475
well you could say the same thing for any sport or exercise if you want to be at the top of it. regular joe with average genetics can still run a 3 hour marathon and bench 250

>>77503511
lol very few people can do either, a ridiculously small amount of people can do both at the same time naturally

>>77503532
very few are training for it. it's an odd combo but not particularly difficult if it's something you want to go for.

>>77503538
>not particularly difficult
rofl, /fit/ being fully of dumb LARPers is always hilarious

>>77503532
very few people care to even scratch the surface for one of those

>>77503543
>possessing the strength of a 17 year old JV second string is difficult

>>77503555
>proving without a doubt that you are a LARPing third world shitskin

>>77503543
rofl at you being so out of touch at what an average fitness guy can do.

>>77503562
>weak yt
oh no no no no no no

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I ran my fastest half marathon segment ever during a 22 mile roon yesterday. Faster than the fast half of my first maratroon in April. We’re all gonna make it

>>77503600
>I ran my fastest half marathon segment ever during a 22 mile troon yesterday. Faster than the fast half of my first marathon in April

"hey I'm gonna just go and run"
Said no sane person ever
Unreal, unfathomably stupid activity
Should all be embarrassed

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>>77503600
gz anon :-)

>>77503634
Your bench must be huge

>>77503678
Oh noo he thinks running is retarded he must just lift in front of a mirror on steroids all day
Typical retard insular brain dead runner logic

>>77503682
You brown
>people
bring a refreshing comedic joy to the world wide web. Thank you.

>>77503634
Many people say this. Just like people say "I'm just going to go round the block on my bike" or "I'm just going to to the park for a walk" because it's a natural human activity that we've done for 10,000 years. Go outside.

got me some nice Adios Pro 4s. they feel fast as fuck

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IT'S JOOGING TIME

>Been trying to train a bit harder lately
>Started feeling absolutely exhausted on Sunday
>Yesterday my heart rate was dropping down to 49bpm at work
>Last night my resting heart rate was 46bpm
Usually the opposite happens after a big effort, but I'm going to take this as a sign to rest for a few days.

>>77503738
I got a pair of for like $90 by stacking promo codes a few months ago. Still haven't put them to use yet though, forcing myself to get to around 7 min miles until I wear them (which might actually be now when the weather cools down a bit)

>>77503784
it's the opposite, you want to rest when your rhr rises

anudda gud speed sessington today

hairftae be careful not to push myself too much

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I love this salty mf like you wouldn't believe.

Dusted the neighborhood 8 year olds in 100m races while they used their bikes
I run this street

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good moaning this moaning fanbuddies today i will be going for another roon. that is all. kpeaceoutbye

>>77503693
Yeah let me go for a run, so i feel like I'm doing something in my life and not a pathethic unthinking fucking subhuman with no skills, athleticism, or anything else, and know absolutely nothing about actual vitality, health, or nutrition.
But if I just run, everyone will think I'm fit and take care of myself, and at the end of the day that's the most important thing, that people know that I run and that they see me running

>>77503468
Correct since I am a man. I just point out Jews when and where they appear.

>>77503784
my resting goes down to 36, concerned my doctor enough to give me an ecg

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switched the watch from km to miles. gotta keep the legs guessing

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Does it count if I did it on a track doing 1K repeats in the middle of a 20K run (no I didn’t stop like a bitch, I just slowed down slightly for 600m between each rep)?

>>77503469
I bought serrated laces as well in case changing the insoles didn't help

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To those anons that do high weekly miles (like 30+) how are you with buying new running shoes so often? Supposedly shoes are good for 300-500 miles, so with 30 mile weeks you're blowing like $100-200 on shoes every 2- 3 months? It's not a crazy expense but having to bust out cash for new shoes so often doesn't sound pleasant. Also do you get the same shoes all the time?

>>77504995
Stock up when you see a good deal. Also they last longer when you rotate pairs. 3 pairs is easily enough for 2000 miles

>>77504995
so sad to read this shit.this is the peak of the pathethic runner
bro if u wanan run, find a track, pick a meter bracket, and make progress
dont' fucking run, on a road, for distance, you pathethic moron what the fuck is wrong with you

>>77496963
I'm dieing to wife one of these hotties in a 2 piece. I seriously jog just to hope to see them.

>>77504952
Yeah.

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Man, today did not feel good. Could be the cold weather... had to get out my long sleeve pull over finally.
Saw 1 heron and 1 bun.

>>77505076
is this a retard AI gone wild?

do you roon every day? i would like to but i find my tendons in my calves cant handle it. will it get better as i keep rooning?

>>77505374
Yes but I couldn’t handle it until I had been running for like 8 years. I started 4 days a week, then 5, then 6, then eventually 7. But you have to moderate your effort. i only run “fast” 3 days a week

>>77505374
Just 5 days. I used to do 3 then 4. I don't think I can do more, and then every few weeks I gotta slow down for a week because fatigue just accumulates. rip

>>77505374
You work up to it slowly, with most of your runs easy or even recovery pace. After q few moths of adding cca 10% you can start introducing light speed work.

The simplest way to set this up (if you just want something to hold your hand and help you along) is to get a Garmin and follow its daily suggested workouts. You can even set a race with a goal time and it will adjust the recommendations accordingly.

Otherwise something I always recommend is one heavy gym leg day a week: squats, rdl, bss, and heavy seated and standing calves. This is (at least for me) the recipe for pain free high weekly mileage.

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>start taking antidepressants and antipsychotics again
>everything tanked
running gains > mental health imo

>>77504765
Your doctor seems retarded.
Mine is 38, I run a 22 minute 5k.
Theyre so used to dealing with fat sick people.

Are Novablast 5s a steal at 150 Canadian dollars? Keep seeing people whine about them dying early.

>>77505683
>AD+AP combo
Bipolar or severely depressed?

>>77505723
it's pretty lame but severe depression. dropped my meds for a short stint as it i'm spooped for long-term organ damage but it's been rough the last week or so, dropping milage from 40 miles to 12 a week.

Hitting a wall, not only in the lack of improvement.

Now running just does more damage to my body, it does not recover.
My kidneys are not doing well I think, my hemoglobin is tanking, gut is as irritable as it has never been.

Losing motivation to go out for runs.

>>77505749
You shouldn't have long term damage if you stay on top of your diet and exercise, though I am surprised to see it's affecting your mileage. What exactly is wrong for your mileage to drop?

>>77505782
What's wrong with your kidneys and why is your hemoglobin tanking exactly?

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>>77505790
Loneliness, recurring thoughts of an ex and best friend whom cut ties with me, and constant thoughts of roping in December on some hike far out for my birthday.

Living as a nomad abroad without any friends or a partner for 10+ years gets real lonely. On the bright side, there's some pretty views out on runs.

>>77505683
Dealing with something similar. On antibiotics for something right now, and they're fucking with my joints. I want to run like I used to... but I also want this other issue fixed.

>>77505858
Godspeed anon.

>>77505883
Good luck to you too, wagmi

How is it running in the rain? If it's raining outside do you still go out? When I used to cycle riding in the rain was complete ass and required a full at home service after the ride.

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>>77506010
I always keep a waterproof poncho in my hydration vest for such cases. As for outdoor (city) conditions, streets are empty so that's nice and well, expect puddles or lakes depending on yer city's infrastructure.
Generally it's fine as long you don't mind leaving out your shoes to dry overnight IMO.

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60 VO2MAX HERE I COME (been sick)

>>77504952
it counts if you didn't stop your watch, well done

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>>77506010
If its 15c or above i run with normal shorts and half zip underarmour technical long-sleeve
Under that I add a windbreaker on top.
Way under, like edging on freezing rain, underarmour heat gear base layer

My best runs mentally were in the rain. It's nice to be smug, disciplined, and tough while the fats and lazies are stuck inside or perpetually jammed into their trucks and cars.

Tried for a good 5K just out a bout of illness. Was stupid, barely lasted 2k and my heart rate shot up worse than on my last 5K PR a few months ago. I wanted to try for a 10K PR in a few weeks, outlook bad. I guess I never really tried for 10K so basically anything will beat it, but I'd have liked a good time.

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>>77506584
But i live in SEA

>>77506349
How do u even measure this

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>>77506623
Been there.
Don't sweat it. It is called endurance sport for a reason.

>>77506755
Yeah... After that I kept going for a bit at a good pace (just not 5K pace) until it got me to well, 5 kilometers, and then cooled down for 20 min or so, ig that was doable.

Still, I think with that shitty illness, I'm going to take it easy until September ends, should do me good, right?

I still can't stop my foot from going completely numb around 30 minutes. I've tried different lacing, newer extra wide shoes, etc
Noticed it can kind of get triggered when I run up an incline or hill. Think the problem might be height, but am unsure. What is the move here?

>>77499590
Checked this a bit now I could run (couldn't on monday and yesterday actually, rip). I'm pretty sure I don't overstride and my foot does land right below me, but trying to lift the heel off first does feel different so I'll try to mind that. ty Anon.

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>>77499590
Using your achilles tendons to return elastic energy and speed up by lengthening your stride is the superior way

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I don't think you should force changes to your running stride. You can change it naturally by doing drills and strengthening weak muscles and improving mobility. But consciously contorting your body every stride I don't think is a long term solution.

I could run 5k very comfortably just last week, why the fuck do 5.5k feel so heavy now that I just increased it this week?

>>77507177
sometimes you just have a bad week, your body is a complex and mysterious organism. Last week I was frustrated that running felt harder and thought I was somehow getting worse after weeks of improvement, this week I'm doing great and finding long runs very comfortable. As humans it's very hard to consider the average rather than the instant, don't lose hope.

>>77506807
You can determine exactly which nerve branch is being impinged. The nerves of the legs have been mapped since before Colombus landed in the Americas.

I wented for a le run in le zone 2
It was rlight

>>77507296
wasn't aware nerves get better within 10 seconds of taking the shoe off

>>77506807
hey I used to have this problem. It just went away lol. Run more and lose weight if you're fat.

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Had to go out later in the day because of a morning appointment
Holy shit it gets hot, wtf, i don't like it

>>77506807
stop being a pussy

>>77507329
Yes but all the pretty girls do their 8:30 km 4k runs in the hot sun, maybe you'll meet one anon

>>77497168
>looks exactly the same but with tits

Do run clubs live up to the hype?

>>77507360
yeah he needs to get facial surgery ASAP
and a different set of glasses

>>77507361
sausage fest

>>77507371
wait, you're straight? And you run? lmao.

>>77507361
i never understood how people run with others. the faster guy has to probably constantly watch his pace and the slower guys are probably pushing themselves into zone 3.
running has always seemed like a solo activity to me. its not like lifting where you can shoot the shit in between sets.

>>77507385
most run clubs group up based on speed, so at worst you're running at a slightly slower pace than you'd like, or more likely you're working harder to keep up with a faster pace than you'd normally run.

Also a lot of interval training works on times or distances and not speed, so everyone can run however they want and all group up after each interval.

>>77507150
idk it works for me. I just force it for a week, maybe two, and then I just do it without thinking about it.

>>77507358
I only saw one today and that was after I finished my miles and was cooling down walking, so she probably thought I was a casual... She looked at me with such disgust.

>>77507371
Damn I thought they were the best way to get laid now

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>>77506584
huh, me too. my best times have only been in rainy days but i suspect it may be the insoles of go-to shoes having worse traction/fit when dry

>>77507385
>mfw "warming up" while my HR is pushing 180 and I'm trying not to sound out of breath

>>77506816
>trying to lift the heel off first
That wasn't really a cue I was trying to teach you. It was just a part of the very-slow-running exercise.

>I'm pretty sure I don't overstride
165bpm without overstriding would look like you're doing plyometric bounds down the street. It would be absolutely ridiculous, and I severely doubt it. But I'll take you at your word, and give you another cue. Make sure your head isn't bobbing up and down when you run. Reducing vertical movement makes you more efficient, and in your case it might help to make your running look more like running rather than jumping.

Just to clarify, we are talking about an actual running pace here, right? You aren't running at 8:00/km and wondering why your spm is low?

>>77500554
collagen supplement

>>77496958
how long for you to recover between marathons

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I remember when someone in this general said that running shirtless is considered “low status” among serious runners. Just change /roon/ to /pathetic fat fuck general/ at this point.

>>77508258
Why would this matter unless you’re doing it every week. And knowing that there are people like David Goggins who actually do marathons every week for a certain amount of weeks should make you feel like a bitch for even talking about some gay fag shit like “recovery”

>>77508297
i did it for the first time yesterday cuz i like how my upper body looks. plus i like the cold on my 6AM runs

>>77508194
Yeah I mean I was going easy at like 5:30/km.

>>77508297
Running shirtless is an American thing and therefore automatically low status.

>>77508258
one week completely off. then one week very easy. then evaluate from there.

>>77507385
It's fine for easy runs unless there is a really big gap in ability.

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>>77508297
Short shorts going commando + shirtless in the summer is peak running, imo. I'd advice anyone in halfdecent shape to at least try it once. Cap and sunglasses optional.
Also, I was surprised how well the whole sweating mechanism works once you get rid off the fucking layers of shit fabrics on your body.

How do I ROON sub 30 5k? I have been running casually for 5k twice or thrice a week but it never seems to get easier. If I only ROON twice or thrice a week, what types of runs should I be doing to improve my timing?
Also I seem to notice imbalance/less drive on my left side due to always running in the same direction I don’t know how much it is contributing to my lack of growth but I can notice a difference in the leg muscles. Should I add more auxiliary exercises for the weak side or just ball with it?

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easy 10k

>>77508535
I'm almost to a sub 30 5k, I only do that one 5k a week and I've been going for about 3 months. Started at 44 mins, down to 32, but that is with a big 80m elevation climb hill at the end, so I think on flat I'd probably get under 30 now. Other people that get a similar time to me seem to do under 30 elsewhere, I probably need to really find out.

Only benefit I had was starting at a normal weight, 183cm 78kg when I started, ~74kg now. I got some decent-ish shoes, some shorts, that's about all I've changed. Maybe the hill is what helped me improve relatively quickly, or perhaps it's that it's at a parkrun so there are other people to chase/help pace me.

>>77508465
how's that gut doing anon?

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>>77496958
going for a run now
hopefully I get hit by lighting and die

>>77508535
You need Nike vaporflys , a strava premium subscription, integrate your strava with a Runna premium sub, drink three or four Maurten gels, four if youre 150kg or above.

Make sure you heel lock the shoes. Run on cinder, or youre ngmi. Try for a blustery day, so that the wind has a greater than fifty percent chance of being at your back. PRAY HARD to Ben Parkes, to Keltie O'Connor, Sacrifice a cock to Bill Rodgers, smudge yourself under the nearest birch tree chanting Oh Amby Burfoot, Be forever my Guide.

You can't miss your sub 30 if you put in that much effort

Do you run outdoors during bad weather (cold, rain, snow)?

>>77509320
Yes. As long as it’s above about 12 degrees F (-11 C) I layer up and go. I tried a run at below 10 degrees last winter and it was a mistake, your muscles stop working properly

>>77509320
depends how bad. cold or light rain is ok. heavy rain or ice on the roads then treadmill

Are u guys all still my friends even though I ruthless dissed ur sports?

>>77509320
Yeah as long as it's not pouring rain or icy

Today someone's fucking dog snapped at me

>>77509409
>sports

>>77508535
What's actually stopping you? Do you hit a wall at a certain point? Are you getting winded have to slow down? Do your legs turn heavy?

Missed Week 2 Day 3 of C25k because of a bloodtest. I guess I’ll do it tomorrow morning.

>>77508535
You run four six minutes kilometres and one 5:45.

Without more context not much can be said. You have a working brain, presumably, use it to think.

>>77509320
light or intermittent rain yes
heavy constant rain no
snow yes
cold no
but I'm in a mild enough climate that cold and heavy rain are only like 5 days/year so I just move around a rest day and there's no real i impact on training

what happens if you run without lifting?

>>77509913
virtually nothing

>>77509913
the middle-aged woman at your office who got into really running during COVID (lots of cute running outfits, 4:23 marathon PR) will tell you you're risking injury

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Sauce on girl? This is the most perfect belly button ive ever seen.

>>77509680
I'll take that as a yes!

>>77509913
You get faster.
>You don't have to balance recovery from lifting and running
>You can run more often
>You weigh less, without any muscle

The downside is that your life expectancy drops, you're more susceptible to injuries, your quality of life plummets in old age, and you generally look like shit. It's a double-edged sword. But all of the fastest runners barely do any strength training at all, and what they do isn't effective at building strength or muscle.

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>>77510052
natalie rule

>20 minute 5k
meh
>40 minute 10k
better
>60 minute 15k
not bad
>80 minute 20k
good

>>77510150
I have a 40 minute 5 k :)

>>77510153
impressive

>>77510140
Wow thanks. Didnt realize she was a pro.

>>77510104
Mostly this for me.
Almost 40 now and I would agree at younger age it really doesnt do much, but last few years overall I feel much better and more stable, balanced and also less fatigued spending a day more on strength. I had felt so drained over weeks when I focused solely on running last year. Felt good at first, weight came down, felt leaner, but then turned quickly thereafter.
Mind, I work a classic office job, though, and feel that really isnt helping in the long run (heh).

>>77510104
>>77510165
This is why I never lift, only cardio. I'm short (5'5) and am probably the ugliest person you will ever see. I'm going for that gaunt, ghoul look.

Wait, you gents don't lift?

i thought lifting and running was THE way

Even swimming or biking at times. Go pick up heavy stuff. Fuck sluts, bang butts

>>77510327
>ghoul look
Ride on, fren. Personally going more for that slender alien look. Little bit like pic >>77508510

>>77509320
Yeah unless it's the sort of rain that soaks through anything in minutes.

I've been in by running clothes for an hour and still haven't left the house to run. I don't think I can today. I'm way too stimulated and distracted by work and other bullshit. Someone help me

>>77510537
just get out the fucking door and start running