It really all comes down to this, this is really the reason we all lift, right?
>>77513686Physique is the first thing you'll notice and it does say something. I'm way more impressed when I meet someone with strong biblical conviction that they live. I work around a lot of Amish Lite people (they shun the Internet and flashy things) and to see someone so truly living what they believe is a thing of beauty.
>>77513691What are they like socially?
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>>77513691I feel more pity than admiration for people that structure their lives based on a book of fairy tales
>>77513706You sound lost
>>77513753You sound like you structure your life on a book of fairy tales which is kind of embarrassing
>>77513758Not the one who wrote that, but you should have some moral/ higher power type compass
>>77513760You can be moral without subscribing to religious wackadoo business, as for a higher power that's not necessary but if you insist you can believe in the magic of the probabilities of the universe or something
>>77513686eh not really, i know a guy whos jacked and looks healthy yet youd never be able to tell he paid ladyboys to cum down his throat in thailand, its a resume of your habits but definitely not your private ones
>>77513686Yeah also how you die is a public resume of how u lived
>>77513686The only reason I lifted was to increase my strength. I would actually be embarrassed to look like a bodybuilder if I had a desk job or something.
>>77513807U assume it means bodybuilding "physique", also my corollary, >>77513807, takes care of that
>>77513780You can pretend and hide all you want but you will have to pay for all that shit you did. Just the way it is champ.
>>77513810>Believe in the heckin fairy tales or the good sky fairy will make the bad sky fairy be mean to you!!Incredibly low IQ and embarrassing way to live life
>>77513810Develop self esteem, Anon.
>>77513811You can bloviate all you want but we all know you're just scared. It's how it always is. I wonder what skeletons you have in you're closet that led you to your current pitiful state.
>>77513817I think it's more pitiful to be so dumb and scared to think for yourself you have to give all your agency away to a fairy tale book and a religion run by pedophiles
>>77513824Yeah that's true
>>77513780>You can be moral without subscribing to religious wackadoo businessNot telling you what to believe, but give some of Andrew Willson‘s arguments a listen. I used to think like you, but he makes a compelling case of why you can’t have morals without a higher power.
>>77513871You definitely know when someone is reddit-brained when they tell you to listen to an argument that changed a fundamental conviction that they had without being able to articulate what the argument was or why it was compelling.
>>77513871you're a bitch
>>77513686One of the very few things in life where the outcomes are fair (steroids aside, who cares what roiders do).I wish salaries and relationships would be as fair.>>77513706Sounds like something I would have written when I was 13.I came to realize that materialism is even more retarded than the world's religions when I was in college.Sure, religions have been tainted by the ruling parties to tweak/taint their message to be able to rule. However, I believe that they all contain honest glimpses into the Truth.Consciousness is fundamental.God bless.
>>77513886What about death?
>>77513886Lmao. Just world fallacy copium. Everybody's potential sits on a bell curve. It's no more or less fair than income.
>>77513879It’s all good, mate. God loves you all the same. The anger will go away when your older.
>>77513691you a fan of the taliban too?
>>77513879You’ve articulated this phenomenon perfectly.
>>77513910Waking up from this dream?Read the Tibetan Book of the Dead, study people's near death experiences, etc.>>77513919The absolute result of exercise may not be fair since people's potential sits on a bell curve like you say, but the link between effort and results is a hell of a lot more fair than relying on Stacy's judgement of your contributions to the company's profit and therefore your salary adjustment/bonuses>but they can and should use quantitative metrics to determine your salary / bonusesWe all know that's not how things work.
>>77513686I'm fat and ugly and an embarrassment to my family
>>77513949You can fix two out of three of those things and that might even lead to fixing the third.
>>77513706Not being able to help mentioning your disdain for something because something you dislike it because it's actively taking up space in your brain instead of simply ignoring it is honestly more pitiful.
>>77513706Yet you go to suck on muslim cock
>>77513706>book of fairy tales and invisible person controlling everythingOversimplification. Ever heard of Goedel’s Incompleteness Theorems? Basically, you cannot invent a language or a fundamental set of basics truths that can explain everything logically. There are always some things that are unknowable. This “unknowable” is God’s realm. Now disregard that entire realm because it isn’t in your purview as a human. What is in your control is the other more practical parts of the Bible. Like being aware of the 7 deadly sins. Sins are just self serving behaviors that may seem to benefit you in the short term but ultimately cause yourself and those around you suffering especially if you take them too far. There you go. A blueprint for living a better life. But it’s just a fairy tale, right? A simulation ran by God.
>>77513871>give this Ethan Ralph Killstream lolcow a listen dude Christ Is King LMAO
>>77514310>can an all-powerful God create a stone massive enough that even He cannot lift it?>if He can create it, then he isn’t all-powerful because he cannot lift it>if He cannot create it, then he isn’t all-powerful because he cannot create itYou may think this implies God cannot be all-powerful, but actually it illustrates a problem with human logic.
>>77514310Based, thank you brother
>>77513686I'm not gonna lie and say I'm not vain, but I keep lifting because my father suffered significant quality of life decline as he aged due to a grease clogged circulatory system.Basically I got scared skinny.
>>77513686>It really all comes down to this, this is really the reason we all lift, right?No, that nonsense is for the self-conscious who have failed to eliminate their ego.You are in no way, shape or form validated by the outside world which will strive to hate you no matter how well or poorly you perform.
>>77514064>Why are you discussing something brought up on an internet discussion forum>>77514303You might, I certainly don't >>77514310I always have a proper laugh at people trying to intellectualize themselves into their belief in a magic sky fairy, thanks
>>77514342>Complaining is discussing Ok
>>77513686I work out because it's fun.Sorry if you don't understand.
>>77513810>karma This is the way it is, whether you like it or notThere is no way to "escape", perhaps ironically the best thing you can do is to live as impeccably as you can. And that absolutely involves how you interact with others in life.
>>77514321He can create it, then He can lift it anyway>>77513780If we're nothing more than muh chemical reactions then why does it even matter if you're moral?
>>77513686I know a dude in my gym, very dedicated, very strict in his routine and form. Impeccable haircut and whatever new shit Gymshark or Puma release he will get it. Acting like a gymthot minus the non-stop selfie and makeup, let’s say.After the gym party last year some of us landed at his apartment with some girls and you cannot tell all the dirt and rubbish this fucker was holding there. The smell just like opening a waste bin’s door on a hot summer day.So, no.
>>77514469Your first reply doesn't make sense, if he can lift it then he didn't create something he can't lift. But these nonsensical paradoxes don't really matter. For your second point, put on your critical thinking hat and think for a minute why one would like to lead a life where they conduct themselves morally & honorably
>>77513686>I substitute talent for hard work>better eat that thalad or I'm gonna thlap you thilly Op before you hurt yourself a lot of people who can fuck you up with 0 effort do not look like it. No brainlessly starving yourself does not make you better at karate.
>>77514489God damn you’re an idiot>if he can lift then he didn’t create something that he couldn’t liftExactly, meaning he isn’t all powerful because he couldn’t create the unliftable rock. Fucking brainlet.
>>77513686>lift up shirt to reveal rock hard abs, "here is my business card"I would like to be able to do that.
>>77514538Your retarded circular reasoning and nonsensical paradoxes still don't really justify the existence of a sky fairy
>>77514558>circular reasoningAw, you learned a new term. Now learn how to use it properly.
>>77514558Dude, go back to heckin reddit to own the "christcuck chuds". No one cares about your gay bs anymore. Post body (You) won't.
>>77514564>>77514560Butthurt christcucks threw all attempts to intellectualize their nonsense out the window (you can't reason your way out of illogical beliefs anyway)
>>77514575A fallacy that exists within the human experience does little to prove anything either way.When we approach the infinitely large and small, we cannot tell for certain what will happen.An example layman's fallacy of the atheistic start of the universe:> There was nothing> The big bang happenedFallacy: If there was nothing, then there was nothing to create a big bang, and therefore, the big bang could not have happened.This shows that, at the extremes, the universe behaves in ways so unknown, that we cannot make definite conclusions about god based on the fallacies of a riddle.
>>77514740Uncertainty does not mean a sky fairy did it and it certainly doesn't mean we need to go and live by a book of tales to keep the goyim in line
>>77514756Not saying it does.Just saying your fallacy doesn't prove the contrary.
>>77514782Fallacy implies error in logic, there is none, since the onus of proof lies in the person making grand claims
>>77513824>Nuhuh, no you!Oh I don't follow those religions, any of them, lol, good try though. Nor do I care what you think, you are just by far the most respulsive retard in the conversation you were having. I am just stating you faggots always run on fear, always, and hope that if you say it loud enough (or type it hard enough on 4chan lol!) you will be right. I can't help but look down on you, you probably don't even have, or ever will have, kids of your own.
>>77514818>>Nuhuh, no you!>Oh I don't follow those religions, any of them, lol, good try though. Nor do I care what you think, you are just by far the most respulsive retard in the conversation you were having. I am just stating you faggots always run on fear, always, and hope that if you say it loud enough (or type it hard enough on 4chan lol!) you will be right. I can't help but look down on you, you probably don't even have, or ever will have, kids of your own.
>>77514791>the onus of proof lies in the person making grand claimsyou got an onus of proof for such a claim?
>>77514846YesNo, I won't show it to you
>>77513706I feel pity for morons who ignore 3000 years of philisophy and think they're geniuses who were the first to ask "why should I believe in something I can't see?"
>>77514939There's tens of ways to approach the empirical analysis of our existence and exactly zero jeebus has been found in any of them, philosophical approaches to explain ooga booga don't mean much
>underage frogposting trannies discussing religionkek classic
>>77513706>>77513780People need a book of fairy tales because the average person is still biologically speaking a monkey that only cares about itself and belongs in the jungleThey need to believe that they only get to go to heaven if they behave because the vast majority of people wouldnt ever do good things for the sake of itYou don't need to genuinely believe in Christianity to realize that it is the best religion for humanity. If asked I consider myself a Christian and follow Christian morals even though I don't really believe in a God (in the traditional sense), or go to church or ever actually sat down and read a Bible.
>>77515016That's fine, I acknowledge your average person is goycattle that requires the control and structure of religion, I just don't want this nonsense imposed on me or my kids
>>77513686No, that image is dumb & is anyone who believes that. Unless you exercise exclusively in private this couldn't logically apply at all. Not to mention everything else you do in private. Yes your physique says something about your work ethic & discipline IN FITNESS. But beyond that it is a weak indicator of parallel traits in anything at best. I know totally ripped guys in the gym who are in all other aspects of life complete degenerate bums/neets/literal hobos.
>>77513693They're kind and genuine. A handshake is a binding contract. They work hard and are surprisingly good at basketball. Humble. Strength under control, aka meek.
>>77513706Cringe>>77515016Cringe>>77515024Based
>>77513886>>Sounds like something I would have written when I was 13.>proceeds to sound like your average enlightened one with an added popular concession to make his mediocre mysticism look more acceptable
>>77514939>I feel pity for morons who ignore 3000 years of philisophy and think they're geniusesThe irony of this statement is almost palpable.
>>77514310That's weird, you don't hear this kind of word salad at masses.
>>77513686This is so gay. Capitalism male motivational culture is unbelievably cucked. I lift expressly to fuck my girlfriend better and then to fuck other women too later. That's it if u think it's some kind of resume for your character that you can rep 5 of 250 on bench then wait around scrolling softprn in public for 3 minutes before doing 5 more reps is somehow "hard work" or determines that you have some kind "work ethic" is a fucking joke. It just shows you're an aristocratic fag. Gym is gay shit. Didn't you know that lol fucking faggot dude.
>>77514310>There you go. A blueprint for living a better lifeThat is just crazy dude. Moral lessons in a book? Man that is insane, what a concept. This totally explains serving a cult to some god in the sky and in fact makes it mandatory. It cannot be done otherwise. Let's not talk about the parts of the bible or any other holy book that are a bit um morally debatable however right? I mean it's uh um to create a contrast and test the believer! teehee~Kill yourself.
>>77514834>greentext copypastaKinda what I thought. Good luck in the future anon, I'm sure you got things handled. kek.
Looking at this thread is almost making me think I took a time machine back to the Bush era.
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>>77515200>>greentext copypasta>Kinda what I thought. Good luck in the future anon, I'm sure you got things handled. kek.
>>77515210>I vill try again
>>77515218>>I vill try again
>>77515140It's not just moral lessons, you could fill a book with what the NT teaches.
This could actually be an interesting discussion but like pretty much every thread on this site nowadays, the whole back-and-forth mainly comes off like a bunch of teenagers trying to score points against each other and not really having a discussion. Maybe I've just outgrown this site, though.
Explain all the gay muscle bottoms with top tier physiques then?
>>77515263Nobody is going to take the time to spell it all out when the words will be gone next week, I'm busy working out. I can give you 2 or 3 sentence replies.
>>77513686most of the low iq goy masses don't think twice about other people or anything beyond what's in front of them, they generally only care about themselves, people like us that judge the fatties and the ugly are outliers
>>77513780You can't tho as evidenced by nobody who's not religious being in any way moral
>>77514529there's always some manlet karatefag who has post to every thread how working out is pointless because he can still beat you up
>>77516309This is true, most of society foolishly judges people by the content of their character, but only us enlightened 4channers rightly judge people by outward appearance.
>>77514939Religion is not philosophy you colossal cock sucking mongrel
>>77514939I reject Plato.
>>77513706You have to be 18 to post
>>77513782Isn’t that why we all lift though? Or am I doing something wrong?
>>77516933For beginners look up Aquinas.
>>77517029>For man has his uppermost part, namely the head, towards the uppermost part of the world, and his lower part towards the lower part of the world.I'm a /his/ lurker.Are you an actual retard? Like, for reals?
>>77513824>run by pedophilesWhat's wrong with being a pedophile?
Sup dogswhat'd you think of that comment here I made, that the way you die is actually the definitive resume of your private habits? I think that's such a great insight
>>77513782>he paid ladyboys to cum down his throat in thailand,imagine the macros...
>>77513686I am acquiring mass
>>77513782tell us more about your vacation in thailand anon
>>77514529Yusaku Matsuda
>>77513824>>77514342>>77514575The fucking irony of a jew like you talking about paedophilia when the talmud is basically a handbook for child rape and thieving. My fucking God you disgust me so much.
>>77514310>Goedelpseudointellectual hack
>>77514740>There was nothing>The big bang happenedthat's not what the big bang theory isthere is no scientific theory of the start of the universe
>>77513686Gay dogshit thread.Kys OP
>>77513686I don't know. I was effortlessly thin until about 31 and had no concept of calories or nutrition. I drank beer and ate chips almost daily and thought spaghetti with ketchup was a balanced meal. Now at 36 I live on steamed broccoli, eggs, EVOO, skyr and salmon and count calories meticulously - 2.3g/kg of protein - and I've gone from skinny to skinnyfat.
