ITT: "Healthy" foods that aren't
>>77522089They are healthier options than the alternatives. Meme cookie is objectively better than a standard cookie it's size. Margarine is healthier when used instead of butterNature valley is just a granola bar. I would say it's a lot better than a lot of other snacks.
>>77522101>Margarine is healthier when used instead of butterWrong
>>77522101>margarine is healthierOh look at the retard who knows nothing giving "health" advice. Absolute mouth breathing moron
>>77522089There's no such thing as healthy food, food can't undo damage or give you more life. There's regular food that gets you to baseline and then there's unhealthy food that hurts you, anything that is processed to take the fiber or moisture out is unhealthy.Like this >>77522110Made from natural ingredients and then processed to turn it into fiberless, waterless slop. Sugar without fiber is essentially poison.
>>77522089Every protein bar I see is like 12 grams of protein and 20 grams of fat. It should be called a fat bar.
>>77522136Protein bars are 100% meme may as well eat the Lennylarry cookie at that point. Shakes are much better but cost a stupid amount now. Best bet is some slices of deli turkey and some cheese but it could be argued those have draw backs too I guess.
>>77522089>Nature Valley unhealthyIts a granola bar and granola is healthyIts just not a protein bar and should not be eaten for proteinIts for carbs and some fat if they have chopped nuts/peanut butter
>>77522123>>77522116I'm wrong based on what? I don't think I've ever seen a replacement study that showed butter doing better than pufa.
>>77522089
>>77522126Your first statement is objectively and demonstrably incorrect. Your second statement is just explaining what the picture is, which is stupid, because that's the entire point of the thread.
>>77522136Where on earth are you finding protein bars like this?
>>77522169>Sample size is 46 people.Lol try again.
>>77522197NTA, not linking articles either, the difference in outcomes between butter and substitutes are so marginal now that there's really no point in arguing over either side though the butter substitutes now tend to have modest benefit
>>77522197Uhh okay, feel free to provide any evidence on your end. >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9180239/>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5480968/>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8048052/On this one the abstract says they were both worse than olive oils but if you look at the data the margarine still does a lot better than the butter. >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121943/Unless there is some weird high-transfat-margarine study showing butter is better, there isn't any evidence that shows that butter is better. Standard low-transfat margarine has better health outcomes than butter.I don't think margarine is healthy btw. I think it's worse for you than liquid fats like olive/seed oil. But still better than butter.
>>77522089https://www.amazon.com/Natures-Path-Frosted-Pastries-11-Ounce/dp/B000P52FO4/Amazon search result for "healthy pop tart"the 30g added sugar of pop tarts is the single least healthy part. People who fear marginal poisons find this and get even more of the worst poison.>>77522110oh, hey>>77522136/fit/ pointed me to built puff which are indeed tasty because they have 6g of added sugar12g of fat would be better
>>77522153it's a sugar bar with granola flavoring
>>77522169I will eat the margerine now
>>77522153btw conflating 'carbs' and 'sugar' is exactly like conflating 'carbs' and 'vodka'. Fructose should be budgeted completely separately from glucose and consumed with care (ideally in the form of the original fruit with its fiber, which means no cane sugar unless you want to chew on something that looks like bamboo). The CICO-schizo point of the Japanese being fit on a diet of rice is because of this. 100 jokes about uranium and that guy never just linked Robert Lustig, what a bitch.
>>77522297Sugar cane is great tho
>>77522089Have you tried eating real food?
>>77522245>NTA, not linking articles eitherThanks for saving me the trouble of reading your post
>>77522247>I googled "pubmed butter bad"dont care. Next time quote your evidence to prove you read the studies (you didnt) or dont respond
>>77522320I know you read the whole post, no reason to be buttmad because you can't into independent thought
>>77522326Whatever you say Lil bro
>>77522328>Whatever you say Lil bro
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>>77522333>he doesn't use 4channel with a thread watcher
>>77522337>I use specialized tools to post wojacks when I lose argumentsWeird flex but you do you bro
Watch this hed gunna reply again in a minute because he can't let it go that he got called out
>he keeps reading
>>77522339>>I use specialized tools to post wojacks when I lose arguments>Weird flex but you do you bro
>>77522324Shame you don't have anything to the contrary to combat me with so I win by default without having to explain anything.
>>77522353I don't link any research on here because I am convinced (and probably correct) 95% of anons are too damn stupid to appraise the literature
>>77522363Tnd AI can provide sources for any position as well. There's plenty of bad and sponsored research out there. The food pyramid and low-fat diets also all had research sources. A random pubmed isn't the same as a random expert carefully breaking down the random pubmed for public consumption in a persuasive way, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM which nails fructose so hard that you might stop giving a shit if butter is marginally better or worse for you.
>>77522371AI is pozzed and frequently hallucinates research findings. As for the food pyramid and low fat diets angle yes though this was understood by independent nutritional science. There's a lot more interesting nuance re: the food pyramid including a lot of political jewing going in in the background. Even RFK jrs new modern food pyramid is pretty retarded for health purposes
>>77522363It's actually because it doesn't exist. The only time butter does better than margarine was back when they put trans fats in margarine. Cry all you want about AI summary but I literally loaded it for you to get it to show any contrary evidence.
>>77522395First off stop using AI it will turn you gay and retarded and frequently hallucinates data and makes up findings. I can confirm this because I tried using several of them for research papers and the information was straight wrong. Plus there's actual research confirming this. Second off I am this anon >>77522245
>>77522395>LDL, or "bad"this is a conflation of two kinds of LDL, the actually bad of which comes from fructose (or ethane) metabolism. It's inconvenient to distinguish the two kinds so the pubmeds also conflate them.
>>77522363>I'm so much smarter than everyone even though every major dietary organization in the world apposes my views and is only shared by a select niche of internet schizos and Facebook moms. The others just don't get it. They obviously haven't seen the same Youtube videos I've seen revealing the truth.
>>77522401>ethaneethanolfuck I should've just said 'alcohol'. Even citation-level LARPing is immediately punished.
>>77522403the 25M view video from a university from 12 years ago is indeed right and every major dietary organization is indeed wrong. All discoveries are like this: there is an entrenched prior order that needs to be displaced, usually by dying.
>>77522403I think you're confusing me with the butter is healthy retard, retard. I recognize that margarine has (modest) benefit from my own literature review
>>77522395Checkmate neuro>inb4 cottage cheese isn't butterIt's the only dairy I eat so what now homie
>>77522417Negro***Fkin autocorrect
>>77522417>He eats jew cheese and uses a jew browser
>>77522418use words, it's not many: the only relevant point is that cottage cheese has 95% less fat so it wins on slop #1's own basis of the issue being saturated fat.
>>77522423Homedawg how u say use words when u don't read the whole pictureMargarine has no protein why would u ever eat it might as well eat cardboard hoping your false fiber gods will grant gains
>>77522423Plus it's got calcium so all u gotta do is megadose some k2 for frame gains
>>77522110I miss poptarts so much, I wish them and all the alternatives weren't such slop
>>77522089What is the angle of the Lenny & Larry's cookies? I've had them many times (the taste is good) but didn't analyze the nutrition that much.The total carbs and calories do seem high (per whole cookie). As stated they do have 10g fiber, and 16g protein. Total sugar is still less than a Snickers bar. I'm thinking them being vegan is a big selling point, but I'm not vegan myself.
>>77522556Here's the nutrition info for a standard Snickers bar. As you can see, the cookie has more fiber and protein. Less sugar. Less fat.But the Snickers is 250 cal vs. the 440 cal cookie. And has far less carbs.
>>77522568Snickers has marginally more fructose and a lot less fiber, and that's all that matters. That CICO fixation and carb-counting would actually lean someone to the more-fattening Snickers is a pretty good argument against both of those practices. Excess glucose alone would stimulate more activity and less eating; a high dose of fructose hitting the liver turns directly to fat and interferes with dietary self-regulation.
>>77522556>What is the angle of the Lenny & Larry's cookies?Conning the goyim>>77522568That Snickers bar actually has the same amount of protein as the cookie. They got caught lying about the protein content of the cookie
>>77522169>5 weeks
>>77522089Whey
>>77522403>every major dietary organization in the world apposes my views Please answer this yes or no question with a yes or no. Did the vaccine prevent transmission? Because thats what every single Health Organization claimed
>>77522498Pop Tart is a brand name. Those aren't Pop Tarts.
>>77523415>I wish them and all the alternatives weren't slop
>>77523662Congratulations
>>77523414It did at the start for about one year until further mutations hit, then it only sharply decreased serious illness and mortality rates. More concerns you'd like cleared up?
>>77522101low quality bait
>>77523747Every single health organization said that an intervention would definitely have a particular outcome, and then that outcome didn't happen, and you accept this because an inevitable and easily foreseen thing also happened? Do you remember any of those organizations adding "for about a year" qualifier, or "unless there's a new strain like we've already seen continuously"?>sharply decreased serious illness and mortalitymathematically rather than medically: if you got sick and then died too soon after a shot that filibusters your immune system with the actual toxin + information about an already ancient mutation of the disease, then your death was counted as unvaccinated.
>>77523759I'm not going to debate the finer points of epidemiology with a moron, sorry pal go try your luck on /pol/
>>77523766oh damn, you can really spite me by adding more sugar to your diet
>>77523747>rewriting historyThe discussion is over
>>77523788Weren't all you tards claiming all us vaxchads were gonna die? Whatever happened there?
>food>healthyJust stop eating food brost. thinspo
>>77523791Cringe
>>77523791It would be pretty funny if there were a bunch of anorexics (or bulimics) covertly hiding on /fit/
>>77522089>a cookie isn't healthy Gee wiz, who knew!
>>77523790if your building was on fire and alarms are telling you to leave, I could get you to stay in it and die, just by telling you that the fire would kill you in the next five seconds. When that doesn't happen, well obv. the building is safe.many of you vaxtards died, especially from cancer, because cancers naturally form and naturally get eradicated, and an overwhelmed immune system can't keep doing that. Your immune system doesn't have an infinite capacity for action so it's actually very harmful to distract it so much. Many of you also died from heart problems because "every health organization" also lied about the mRNA remaining at the injection site and only reprogramming a small number of cells to only pollute your body with spike cells for a small window of time.
>>77523815Embarrassingly low IQ post, thanks for the laugh though
>>77523414Not a single one claimed it completely prevented transmission. It drastically reduced transmission and greatly reduced the chance of hospitalization. >>77523752Still zero(0) evidence posted in this thread proving anything is stated was wrong.
>>77523964all that happened to covid is that the virus kept mutating to become more infectious and less deadly, like it did obviously and repeatedly before the vaccine even came out. You poisoned yourself while accomplishing nothing at all to stop the pandemic, which stopped on its own, which it would've done anyway. You may as well have performed a mass human sacrifice to "stop covid" ... oh, you kinda did!
>>77523964>Not a single one claimed it completely prevented transmission.Lololol
>>77523795they're all in /fa/
>>77524011Yeah I'm sure it was just a coincidence that Covid hospitalizations fell off a cliff as soon as the vaccine became available. >You poisoned yourself lol two more weeks buddy>>77524013If you actually had any evidence to the contrary you would have just posted it. But you know you don't. Just like everyone else in this thread who believes things on vibes instead of evidence.
>>77523964Still zero(0) evidence posted in this thread proving anything you stated was right.
>>77524120see>>77522247And thats just the evidence for Margarine. There is a shitload more for vegetable oil in general compared to butter. For the cookie came you can compare>>77522556to my pic related. Much better macros on the meme cookie. Which is larger than the standard cookie. Granola is objectively healthier than potato chips. Thus is better than a lot of other snacks.
>>77523964>Still zero(0) evidence posted in this thread proving anything is stated was wrong.You didn't provide any actual evidence for your claim, so there's nothing to refute.
>>77522395Post body.
>>77524622Looking up one post sure is hard.
>>77524684>I don't actually have evidence for what I believe.Predictable>do my work for meNah
>>77522089>>77522110who the fuck actually thinks this stuff is healthy? are mutts retarded?
>>77522089This is healthy though
>>77522089>ITT: "Healthy" foods >sweets>lardAmericans do, really.
>>77526404>"Americans" out of nowhere
