>>77524794
It's crazy isn't it. I feel like that's the 'cns gains' part of it going away. When you lift hard and eat and gain tons of strength and weight you sort of 'overclock' your cns. Then that goes away quickly when you stop. That's my theory at least. Maybe like 5% of your strength? Is that about right?

>>77524794
>>77524804
skill issue

>>77524794
>mild cut and I already lost an exorbitant amount of strength
Not mild then lol
I've lost 18lbs since the start of the year (200lbs down to 182lbs) and my numbers are all just where they were pre cut - 155 x 6 OHP, 275 x 5 bench, 315 x 8 squat and 450 x 1 deadlift. No PRs during the cut but maintained all my best sets
A cut should be slower, if you're dropping like 10lbs in a month no shit you lose muscle and strength. Skill issue like the other guy said

bulking and cutting isnt something you should be doing

>>77524794
How much is exorbitant? If you were benching 2pl8 for 8 and now you bench 2pl8 for 7, you're literally fine and making a fuss over nothing. If you've legit regressed by 20lbs on your lifts then you've cut too aggressively and starved yourself. Need more info bro.

>>77524794
This is either not as mild as you think, or entirely psychological in effect.

>>77524794
>1 week into
Missed this part. Definitely psychological.

Is his career over brahs

>>77524819
/thread. A "bulk" should be like ten pounds max.

Something about Ed Sheeran makes me hate him to an irrational degree. I don't know why or what it is, but he is very repugnant to me.

>>77525094
Something about his vibe seems deeply unsavory and impersonal
>>77524947
The yews would never let someones career die out for standing up for them, if it comes to it they'll pay people to go to his concerts

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>>77524794
Dont get caught in the ego lift loop anon. Let your lifts go down and dont sweat it. If you are constanlty worrying about your numbers you'll forever yo-yo between like 20-15% bodyfat without really gaining much strength nor getting to an aesthetic bf%. Hard commit to the cut and genuinely ignore your numbers until you get to your target bf%. Obviously try and at least keep them up as much you can but if they go down its no biggie, you'll get them back in no time once the cut is finished. Remember why you're doing it.

>>77524807
Wow you really added so much

>>77525090
You sound pretty small and weak though?

>>77525108
>If you are constanlty worrying about your numbers you'll forever yo-yo between like 20-15% bodyfat without really gaining much strength
That makes no sense. Why would he not gain strength? Worrying about your numbers + being willing to get somewhat fat = how every big strong guy ever has gotten big and strong

>>77525234
that anon added the very important implication that it's not a muscle issue.

>>77525242
>lose weight
>lose muscle tissue
>lose strength
Yes it must be SKILL. He just got worse at doing the lifts or something

>>77525090
Dyel Nattys will NEVER learn rofl EVER

>>77524819
If you are a natty and you don't do bulk and cut cycles then you will NEVER EVER be anything but a dyel. Ever. You should hop on roids

>>77525507
>>77525511
You're both going to tragically drop at the ripe old age of 40, if you're lucky. RIP!

>>77524794
>mild cut
then you're cutting too hard, don't call it mild if you're not counting calories and your weight and controlling the deficit based on those values, also dont expect you can train with the same volume if you're taking less calories

>>77525282
its definitely skill. I eat less and i dont lose strength i in fact get stronger.
Because thats not now strength training works you fat ass delusional retard.
>>77525511
if you arent competing as a pro bodybuilder you should not ever be "bulking" or "cuttng" which is a completely different concept for a pro bodybuilder.
Simply getting fat and gaining weight then trying to drastically lose it wont achieve anything but make you unhealthy

>>77525733
>Because thats not now strength training works you fat ass delusional retard.
Yes, the laws of thermodynamics is how strength training works. You build strength by building muscle. You build muscle by eating excess calories. When you lose calories, you lose both fat and muscle, so there is no possible mechanism for you getting stronger unless it's just some really belabored programming for marginal improvements based on neural adaptations.
Why don't we just cut to the chase and you tell us how big and strong you are and what you look like

>>77524794
It’s all in your head

Is his career fin?

I'm so fucking sick of the kike vs mudslime drama.

>>77526099
thats not how strength or muscle works you retarded faggot
Getting stronger and hypotrophy are different things.
Bigger muscles doesn't mean stronger you fat delusional moron and it has nothing to do with thermodynamics you illiterate monkey retard.

>>77524804
it comes back pretty fast

>>77525238
because OP wants to cut. he just has to understand thats the price of cutting. aesthetics vs strength

>>77526548
this isnt how any of this works you people are so fucking stupid

>>77526549
less calories = less energy the fuck do you not get retard? do you think your car can run without gas too?

>>77526550
Retard when people talk about cutting its pro bodybuilding. The reason they lose strength is because they cut their body fat to nothing and dehydrate themselves
Its mostly to do with water

You idiots talking about this shit arent probodybuilders you are clowns larping and were never string in the first place.
You arent going to become weak eating a standard meal plan for an adult

>>77526553
ok so we established youre weaker on a cut thanks for walking all around the fucking playing field to end up at the same goalpost jackass

>>77526555
you arent cutting you larping dickhead wog.
btw theres strength trainers and bodybuilders that have proven you can increase lifts even on a "cut"
Because thats not how strength training works as long as you are eating high protein you will gain strength from strength training

>>77526099
When you strength train you are basically refining the muscle, making more stronger muscle fibres, you don't have to continually gain muscle to get stronger. Your muscles just become stronger.
You are an idiot

>>77524819
please stop spouting garbage like this

>>77526570
no it literally is not garbage and you are a moron. If you are not competing and you are talking about bulking and cutting you are a clown

>>77526550
you dont need a lot of carbs to weightlift its not an endurance aerobic sport.
Also fat is useless for weightlifting it doesnt get released fast enough. You need a minimum of half an hour cardio before you even burn fat.

You people are so insanely fucking stupid and ignorant about any of this

every tome these fat ass permabulker powershitter threads pop up i like to point out theres literal skinny 50 kg chinese women deadlifting over 200kgs without a belt and doing strongwoman competition
That are objectively stronger than every lard ass on here

>>77526542
>Getting stronger and hypotrophy are different things.
Ok, explain the difference. How do you get stronger? My explanation is by increasing muscle size. What is yours?

>>77526568
This is magical thinking. You "refine" a muscle by "adding more muscle fibers?" How is that different than "hypertrophy"?

Muscles expand and contract.That's it. A larger muscle (one with more fibers) offers more contractile force.

You people have a fucking voodoo tier understanding of this stuff.