Previous >>77504922 What are you taking? How much are you injecting? What weight did you start at and how much have you lost? Questions & queries? >What is GLP-1? GLP-1 agonists are medications that help lower blood sugar levels and promote weight loss. They are available with a valid prescription (commonly known as Ozempic, Wegovy, Mounjaro/Zepbound, etc) or via the gray market in the form of peptides. >How do I get on GLP-1? For the legal brand-name products, you need to have a valid prescription, but it can be very expensive. If you want them as peptides, they are available via the gray market, which is a much riskier area for a siginifcantly better quantity and price. >How do I get into the gray market? Stairwaytogray's main website at www.stairwaytogray.com is the one and only place to start. There are many great guides covering all areas for new players to the scene. Several points to note: >Mods will ban you for positng direct links to gray market sources, so don't risk it >There is absolutely no such thing as GLP-3. It is a common ignorant and uninformed term spread by social media influencers. This includes GLP-2 (which is unrelated to weight loss and is for Crohn's Disease), GLP-4 and GLP-5. They're all false and uneducated terms >NEVER follow the advice of any social media influencer on any mainstream platform under any circumstances. This especially includes Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and YouTube. The consequences are disastrous and even fatal >The gray market is volatile and legally risky. Do your research, learn basic cryptocurrency and focus on your personal security and privacy, and never spend more than you are willing to lose As always, stay safe and be smart.
Know the difference between the agonists. This image and a simple Google search will prevent you from looking stupid in front of everyone. MAINSTREAM GLP-1 BRANDS Semaglutide >Ozempic, Wegovy, Rybelsus Tirzepatide >Zepbound, Mounjaro LESSER KNOWN GLP-1 BRANDS Liraglutide >Victoza, Saxenda Dulaglutide >Trulicity Exenatide >Byetta, Bydureon BCise Lixisenatide >Adlyxin Orforglipron >Foundayo Albiglutide >Tanzeum (cancelled by the manufacturer) UPCOMING GLP-1 AGONISTS Retatrutide >Still in the experimental/testing phase, highly proven results Mazdutide >Dual agonist Survodutide >Dual agonist Ecnoglutide >Single agonist "biased GLP-1" VRX-0075 >Quintuple (five) agonist NOT A GLP-1 AGONIST Cagrilintide >Amylin receptor Eloralintide >Amylin receptor Petrelintide >Amylin receptor
And finally: >Ignore all non-GLP-1 substances...within reason (Cagrilintide, for example, is fine). /fraud/ exists for other substances>Filtering your peptides is optional but is recommended. It won't purge any potential endotoxins, but it'll clean up other particulates>No one cares if you don't like or need GLP-1 injections. Go have a sook in another thread if it irritates you so much>Do not engage with the DNPtranny. DNP is fine, being a total fuckwit about it is not>Go to /fph/ or /fraud/ if you feel like a morally superior faggot. We get that the world is becoming skinnier and you're losing your pathetic bullshit bullying powers as a result, but pick your fights elsewhere, as we don't give a shit about youTIRZISKING
>>77543164Yeah, people lose muscle because they jab and don't exercise or gym it. Surprising that you kept muscle on Tirz though, most GLPs that aren't Reta don't help retain muscle mass.A win is a win.
>Dropped my Reta vial>It shatteredGoddammit
>>77543349Who the hell is at 15mg Tirz? Holy fuck.
Cant you just stop eating though? I mean what happens when you stop taking it?
I am on reta 1mg E3D and i can barely eat some soup plus some baked chicken. Feels amazing bros. I should have started glps years ago
>>77543549You'll get the hunger pangs back, but people are reporting that very slowly titrating down to nothing over a long period helps the initial hunger pangs. Plus, if you've maintained good discipline with exercise and diet, you should be able to manage well.I suspect users of GLP-1s over many years will have had their brains rewired so I guess we'll see.
>>77543558It's awesome, same here.
>>77543380>Surprising that you kept muscle on Tirz though, most GLPs that aren't Reta don't help retain muscle mass.What I meant to say is that before going on a glp, I was apparently already protein deficient if I'm supposed to be getting close to 100g a day.
>>77543436went from 275 to 215 in 4 months only at 4mg a week but tired of feeling like shit. my goal weight is 195 but I'm gonna start titrating down cause I want my quality of life back.
>>77543860Holy shit close to 7kg per month. Wtf was your diet brother.>>77543751Yea man its a godsend. High protein+gym+reta dosed oke is so fucking great. I would say all my friends and family to hop on but i know better sadly.>>77543380>>77543789How is reta supposed to keep muscle? Genuinly asking.
taking mounjaro for diabetes, the thing i noticed is I didn't start losing weight on it until I cut out sugar and bread
>>77544089That's just weight loss in general
>>77543356TIRZ IS KING
Just dropped from 15mg to 7.5mg of tirz. Goddamn I’m hungry.
>>77544089can’t relate. I dropped 160lbs eating sweets 24/7 on Mounjaro
3rd week 2mg Tirz. The lack of food noise is astonishing. I used to think about what I would eat for dinner while I was eating lunch. I was able to use nicotine + willpower to hold myself at 6’2” 190lb (but bad cholesterol and normal weight obesity), but wanted to quit nicotine and knew my appetite would explode. I’ve been on annd off various forms of nic for years (smoking, vaping, pouches), and every time quitting was miserable. Decided to wait until second injection to quit nic this time and it was obscenely easy. Small appetite spike (not nearly as bad as previous times), minor irritability, chewing a lot of mint gum. But thats it. Also I generally feel better and less retarded and my knees don’t have random inflammation. Only side is the slowed digestion. Not constipation, but the food > shit timeline is now 48 hours instead of 12.
>>77543349>peptides! hormones! caffeine!! i love jewish chemicals in my body :)why can't you people do anything on your own
>>7754445915mg of tirz here and still food noise like crazy. but I can’t eat a lot so it still works
>>77544470I’m this >>77544459 anon. I was not technically overweight. Shitty body comp, but I didn’t really care about how I looked. I was perfectly able to maintain 180-190lb. I started tirz because I was tired of thinking about food all the time. Something the “willpower only” crowd doesn’t ever seem to address is that you CAN maintain a normal BMI through CICO and willpower. But that just manages the negative effects of food noise, it doesn’t eliminate the food noise. I couldn’t go 5 minutes without thinking about food. It’s been that way since I was a little kid, there was never a time I wasn’t thinking about my next meal or a snack or something like that. It was unbelievably distracting and unpleasant. Maybe there was some kind of therapy I could do to address that, but I wasn’t going to give $100s to talk about food trauma or some retarded nonsense.I don’t understand why this tilts people so hard.>>77544472Sorry to hear it. I’ve always been very receptive to medication and count myself lucky.
(you denial)77544470>>77543356
Came off Tirzepatide and tried to intermittent fasting and its been fucking impossible. Gaining all the weight back clearly but I've been lifting so getting gains so will probably just hop back on and treat it like cutting and bulking
>>77545090As common sense at it sounds, legit just keep gulping down water, it does help immensely.
>>77544492>I don’t understand why this tilts people so hard.Being fat is seen as a moral failing. You're a weak person, you're gluttonous, you're lazy, so being fat is a punishment. You being absolved of that punishment without having to suffer like they did is an injustice to them. Part of this is because we still pretend that we're more than our bodies. The 'soul', the 'rational mind', there's this idea that 'you' are inside your head and should be able to withstand whatever signals your body is sending to cause bad habits. And now you get this drug that bears the burden for you? 'You' are just taking the lazy route again.
>>77545172>>77543356
>>77544301Im not on any glp1, prediabetic, and I lost 50lb from eating sourdough bread and rice. Food scale and high volume food is key.
>>77543356not sure if my penis actually become larger or it's an optical illusion.
>>77545400Happens when you lose weight
>>77545400the fatpad shriks and you reveal more of what you already have.
>lost 10lb in about 2 weeks on Retatrutide.>My diet hasn't reduced that much>heart rate is higher.> Feel warmer and lifts aren't falling either. >Every cut in the past has left me feeling weak and ill. Anybody saying this just reduces appetite should up their dose of copium. Willpowercels on suicide watch.
>>77545653Exactly.Reta is insanely OP everywhere, except for maybe appetite suppression which can be weaker for someYou'll get ARBies (Anti-Reta Brigade) come flying in soon though.
>>77545666Mods will ban you for advertising, as per >>77543349
so just injected tirz for the first time today, around 5 hours ago, why am i still fat?
>>77545658We aren't anti reta we just acknowledge that the side effects tend to be worse for the bump in efficacy. If you don't get insomnia or cravings I'm sure reta is top>>77545992Sounds bunk. you should probably use this guy's>>77545666 friend's website for the real deal
>>77546251Kek bannedTold you so >>77545678
>>77546251Altaccount nigger
>>77543349getting fucking tired of these retatrutide side effectsdidnt sleep at all for the past 2 nights just restless in bed with tingling skinall cause i missed a doseim guessing my body is releasing adrenaline cause it thinks im starving or somethingtired of having low social drive low stamina at the gyminability to eat certain food cause it sits in your stomach all day (fish)general hatred towards foodI just want to feel normal again. might switch to tirz but i only have about 15-20lbs left to hit my goal weightlost a ton of muscle too cause i didn't work out but fuck it at least i look good in clothes now >>77543918honestly bro i barely atei was never hungry and food made me tiredlost a good amount of muscle as well >>77545605that and losing fat increases your testosterone levels
Lesson of the day: do not try to take GLP1 and SGLT2i together as they could cause non-diabetic ketoacidosis when your blood sugar drops too low
Took tirzepatide for half a year now, took a month off for my japan trip where most of my weight went away within a week. I went from 210 to 175 naturally because I was going to meet my then ex at the time. From 175 I decided to take tirze because my best friend convinced me.Going on maintenance now by reducing my dose by 0.5mg per week while ramping up my gym activity (already doing 2-3x a week prior to tirze). You will make it bros, I used to have zero likes on dating apps and now I have to pause my account to actually go on dates. I put my brother on tirze as well since he saw my progress on it.
>>77544459Getting rid of alcohol and nicotine addiction is one of the first benefits of tirze actually so you had great timing
>>77545992update to this, forced myself to eat around 600cals of protein oats, haven't felt hungry the entire day. surely this is placebo? or does it sometimes act this fast?
>>77546655The first time I took 2.5mg of tirz, I was already feeling the effects by the next day, so it doesn't sound weird to me.
Drugs ingested orally generally take 20 minutes to get into your bloodDrugs injected subcutaneously generally take 5 minutes to get into your blood>>77546486SGLT2i on its own can cause it if dosed too high>>77545992It doesn't make you less fat magically it just makes you eat less
>>77546655usually takes 24 hrs to kick into effect, you’ll feel it between 48-72 hrs at its strongest then begin to taper off cosplayer name? these bitches make me hard
Slowly but surely
>>77546417I mean, you did exactly what you were not supposed to do. Barely eating (7kg per month is insanity) + no gym. My guess is anything over 5-6kg is too much and you are not supposed to lose more than that if you are high protein anyway. 5kg per month is insane fatloss anyway and losing 7 on shit diet and no gym you are probably losing 5,5kg fat and 1,5kg muscle which is shit trade.Also if you are over like 12-15 yo, higher test wont grow your dick my man.
I learned the hard way about drinking while on Tirz. That fucking sucked.
>>77546907slowly but surely my ass nigga, you’re losing weight like a champ stfu >>77547094and the moment you hit even a slightly higher dose you will pretty much start to refuse drinking
>>77547132That'll be me soon, guaranteed. I'm still queasy after painting the toilet for a good 10 minutes last night.
i'm scared. its been about 2 days and 16 hours since I last dosed my reta. I'm at 4.5mg. Everything seems pretty good I have been on it since March 1st. I have stalled the last 4 months and gained a bit. I got tirz ready to go since lots of kino motherfuckers are saying to combine the two because its godly. I'm just afraid of what i'm going to feel like. Should I take it now? and how low should I go? 0.5, 1?
>>77547973See here >>77541643
>>77546765>SGLT2i on its own can cause it if dosed too highYeah probably. I think the constant peeing caused my blood sugar to fall too low while ketone levels increased rapidly and eventually I felt completely miserable. Took two days to feel better without hospital treatment just by eating more candy.
>>77548095I am the same anon and I read that but whatever i'm just gonna do 1mg see what happens. hope I dont die
>>77547973Reta does suppress your appetite as well as tirz on higher doses. The only upside of tirz is that it's much gentler on the body in people like me who suffer massive side effects from glucogan activation from reta.
>>77548143the only sides I get from reta is uh, idk. at 5mg I felt more palpitations so I just dropped it back to 4.5mg and now I feel normal again. also the gastrointestinal stuff but nothing severe or bad. i'm just going to do 1mg tirz for now and i will report back. what I am looking for is significant appetite suppression and food noise suppression. for the first 2-3 months on reta it was godly. now its there but its like a ghost and I still have to put substantial discipline into it
>>77548153Have you considered upping your reta dose?
>>77548170yeah like I said i tried 5mg and it felt like too much. upping it just doesnt seem tk do anything but give me more sides now. and I just pinned 0.5mg of tirz cause im a pussy and I remember my first time pinning reta I started out at 0.5mg and it felt like I was on Adderall for a weekI feel like im already feeling it btw wtf
>>77548174Omae wa mo shinde imasu
>>77548181dont scare me like that
>>77548142Ahhh my bad, yeah look you'll be fine, just start real slow. At the first sign of discomfort or anything really weird, stop stop stop.
>>77544472Some people succeed by taking a break to desensitize their receptors; for others, however, it made no difference at all.
>>77543356>DNP is finebro that shit was banned in the 1920s for being too dangerous, like that was the decade where leaded gasoline, asbestos in houses and tonics containing radium were things , like holy shit all that stuff was still legal in the 20s and yet dnp was still bad enough to get banned
>>77549601It was posted to counter the DNPtranny who spams every weight loss thread.
>>77548671god damn I am feeling 0.5mg tirz like crazy the next day I almost feel overstimulated I have absolutely 0 hunger. you guys were trying to fucking kill me telling me 2.5mg tirz is okay stacked with reta like jesus christ. I almost panicked at my job but it seems to have wind down a bit>>77549601I have done it 10 years ago. it works like magic. but it is so risky now, you never know how contaminated it is. Dinitro was a seller who is long gone and his crystal DNP was the purest in the world. I would not use that shit again though now that we have glp 1s
>>77543349bro this shit is crazy. went from 200 to 158 in around 4 months on 2mg
>>77550158which did you take?
>>77550204Reta
on tirz, i have a 5mg pen. i've started with 2.5mg, can i continue using the pen after the initial month? as it says that it should be used within ~30 days after opened
>>77549601Danger is relativeThe only real issue with DNP is blindness and we have newer generations of uncouplers that don't have that issue
>>77550334as long as you're keeping it refrigerated it's probably fine. i've considered doing that to save money but stuck with 2.5 pens instead.
>>77550499Yep.Tirz also lasts up to 3 months in the fridge. There's been many tests done; it's a majorly sturdy peptide. Sema and Reta unfortunately only last a maximum of 6 weeks.
>>77550158Full on shit isn't it?
>>77550671ive used reta way longer than that and that isnt true
>>77551211Then you're risking sending yourself to the hospital, as it's proven that it'll break down in sterility after 6 weeks.
I have been eating half a banana for breakfast. I had three eggs with some bacon and a tortilla today and I have a stomach cramp and hiccups.magical substance
>>77550334I recently did this and I felt like the effect of Tirz the last two weeks of my 8 week 2,5 mg dosing (doctor's order) was a lot weaker. I still lost weight but I felt like my appetite was recovering and I could eat more food compared to the first few weeks. It could just be that my body got used to it.This Wednesday will be my first dose of 5 mg for 4 weeks.
I started taking reta 2 months ago and have lost 35 lb ever since with only 2mg. I'm not really doing any strength training though, thinking about starting soon, I'm like 15 lb away from reaching my goal weight.
I'm on reta. Up to 3.33mg now(splitting a 10mg vial 3 times) every 5 days. From 156kg to 130kg since May. Still not the best diet and not much exercise. This shit is magic. Haven't felt hungry since I started.
I have no side effects apart from very sore and sensitive nipples (male). Anyone else experience this?
>>77551388no. you are literally retarded, shut up.
>>77552206That's a new one.
77552273>Doesn't even provide counter evidenceYou're proving him right you moron, lmao
>>77543549>wHaT hApPenS wHeN yOu StOp tAkInG yOuR cHroNic iLlNesS mEdS?gee anon, no idea. what happens in that case? tell us why we shouldn't treat a chronic illness because the treatment stops working once you stop it
>rather than just stop eating so much I'd prefer to inject myself with chemicalsI can't believe I share a planet with these people.
77552330Don't you have some crystals to hump so you can 'cure your seasonal allergies'?
The usual reminder to read the second half of this.>>77543356
>>77552334Pretending how much you eat is beyond your conttrol is literally your entire problem. It is within your control. 100%.
77552339not when you have been overfed junk food since you were able to eat solid foods, it wires your brain to crave these things constantly and in large amounts
>>77552341Excuses, excuses. You control it, regardless of your history. You. Literally no one else.
>>77543349i lost so much fucking muscle bros its usually the chronic, endless pain that i wake up in that forces me to lift and manage itbut on reta the pain went away and i didnt need force myself to workout to reduce painbut today my body finally gave out and my shoulder is all fucked up clearly from driving, computering, and writing i fucking envy people that can just live life as useless pedestrians and never be in pain if i dont workout i will be in pain even just writing notes makes my hands cramp up hate my cursed body sometimes but ill be alright
I know for a fact most of you guys are not testing your vials and just trust the vendor's old batch tests
>>77552440They're morons. They also don't filter, which takes an extra 2 minutes at best.Some retards, get this, buy INDIVIDUAL vials from gayfag "resellers". Imagine being that shit and retarded.
>>77552206I don't suppose there was some weird medication you took for years and forgot about, or maybe were a stoner? It's a stretch, but some chemicals get preferentially stored in fat, and when you lose a lot of weight at once, those chemicals are released into your bloodstream all at once. Sore + sensitive nipples are common sign of high estrogen but it could be a million other things as well - don't know what to tell you, except dont troon out on us.
>>77552351>NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN CHEMICALARINOS I spent years maintaining a healthy weight by willpower and every fucking day was miserable. I’m still at a healthy weight, I just microdose tirz so that I’m not wasting 25% of my brain capacity thinking about food.
>>77552487I don't take any medication besides the obvious. Even today they feel so fucking sore. I've been rubbing vaseline on them tings.
>>77552324search the internet you fucking retard yourself. you never provided a source the claim lies on you, go fucking kill yourself with your un(you) fucking idiot
>>77552330so kill yourself then if amino acids trigger you. literally no one not even your parents would miss you
77553359>Still didn't provide a counter-sourceConcession accepted.
>>77552824It could be due to the rapid fat loss maybe? That's all I can think of at this stage.
>>77553405yep, you lost. cope.
>>77552440I get mine shipped directly from Eli Lilly :^)
>>77553405nta but not linking posts is the most crybaby bitch shit of all time
77553427And yet it makes you and others reply every time. If you didn't acknowledge it, you wouldn't see it happen!
>>77553436keep throwing out your vials after 6 weeks pussy. waste your money. only literal retards like you have this issue
77553455Nope, we're being safe and also filtering while third party testing. It's kids like you who ruin it for everyone. You'll be a statistic on some goynews channel about "unregulated peptide users dying".
>>77553528>>77553528you are such a fucking retarded pussy with an indian source. you use the vial till it is done and you don't throw it away unless it's clear that something is wrong with it. I dont give a fuck what you do. im not going to end up on any news and no one ever has because you cant fuck this shit up, but I hope your dumbass gets shot.
77553717He is so mad about being safe and secure, topkek
>>77543349Finally at my goal weight thanks to Reta. I'm about to switch to Cagri for food noise control.14 months of over 100lb dropped, what a ride that was.
>>77553726Good shit. I'm almost there myself.Let us know how Cagri goes.
I was on wegovy from a compounding pharmacy and it worked but would make me violently ill half the time I shot it, would throw up until there was no liquid in my stomach and then keep retching. Currently on real deal zepbound, 15 mg max dose weekly from the ez shot that comes in 4 packs. It got me from like the ~340 zone to 275. So that's awesome but I've been plateaued for half a year. Once I got near this weight the lifelong compulsion for sweets and fast food really came back, while my motivation to weight lift dropped. I'm grateful it got me down from 4XB to 2XB shirts but it seems I need extra help. The other problem is I just turned 26 so I lose my dad's insurance at the end of the month. My own employer's insurance doesn't cover GLP1s whatsoever. And $720 a month is not sustainable.What do you guys think I should do next? Try a higher dose of tirzepatide (what zepbound is) from a gray source? Try switching to retatrutide? Something else?What's the lead time on getting a supply for someone in the Midwest US?
>>77554883Do Gray Market Tirz first, and then explore outwards.
Not taking any of this shit if I have to inject it. Are the pills bullshit?
>>77554931Just inject it. It's so easy and painless you'll forget you ever had apprehensions about it by the 2nd shot.Yes the pills work but they require a much higher dosage, are less effective, and have higher side effect rates.
>>77554931You’re thinking inject as “needle in vein”. The reality is it’s like a little 1/5 inch long poker skinner than a pin that you just jab into your thigh. It hardly feels like anything.
>>77554883>stalled at 275 for 6 monthshow?
>>77554982So one aspect like I alluded to is the suppression of appetite and food noise mostly went away as I got toward that weight. So I've been able to not eat myself back above that, but trying to go lower feels like what it was like before I started the medicine at a higher weight. The other factor has just been what's happening around me. My parents finalized their divorce in that February-March time and that affected me mentally and emotionally a lot more than I expected it to. Honestly, I might be generally depressed, I've taken anti depressants in the past but didn't find them very reliable for improving how I felt.
>>77554973>Just inject itNo. Can you read?>>77554978Did you reply to the wrong post? My post was about the pills.
>>77555004>No. Can you read?Sure. I just assumed you're a pussy who's too afraid to inject because he's deathly afraid of needles or something. Am I wrong?
needles... scary!!!!
>>77555207Poke!
>>77554931millions of subaverage IQ americans have injected this. they made it painless and retardproof. surely you can handle it too
