Previous >>77504922 What are you taking? How much are you injecting? What weight did you start at and how much have you lost? Questions & queries? >What is GLP-1? GLP-1 agonists are medications that help lower blood sugar levels and promote weight loss. They are available with a valid prescription (commonly known as Ozempic, Wegovy, Mounjaro/Zepbound, etc) or via the gray market in the form of peptides. >How do I get on GLP-1? For the legal brand-name products, you need to have a valid prescription, but it can be very expensive. If you want them as peptides, they are available via the gray market, which is a much riskier area for a siginifcantly better quantity and price. >How do I get into the gray market? Stairwaytogray's main website at www.stairwaytogray.com is the one and only place to start. There are many great guides covering all areas for new players to the scene. Several points to note: >Mods will ban you for positng direct links to gray market sources, so don't risk it >There is absolutely no such thing as GLP-3. It is a common ignorant and uninformed term spread by social media influencers. This includes GLP-2 (which is unrelated to weight loss and is for Crohn's Disease), GLP-4 and GLP-5. They're all false and uneducated terms >NEVER follow the advice of any social media influencer on any mainstream platform under any circumstances. This especially includes Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and YouTube. The consequences are disastrous and even fatal >The gray market is volatile and legally risky. Do your research, learn basic cryptocurrency and focus on your personal security and privacy, and never spend more than you are willing to lose As always, stay safe and be smart.
Know the difference between the agonists. This image and a simple Google search will prevent you from looking stupid in front of everyone. MAINSTREAM GLP-1 BRANDS Semaglutide >Ozempic, Wegovy, Rybelsus Tirzepatide >Zepbound, Mounjaro LESSER KNOWN GLP-1 BRANDS Liraglutide >Victoza, Saxenda Dulaglutide >Trulicity Exenatide >Byetta, Bydureon BCise Lixisenatide >Adlyxin Orforglipron >Foundayo Albiglutide >Tanzeum (cancelled by the manufacturer) UPCOMING GLP-1 AGONISTS Retatrutide >Still in the experimental/testing phase, highly proven results Mazdutide >Dual agonist Survodutide >Dual agonist Ecnoglutide >Single agonist "biased GLP-1" VRX-0075 >Quintuple (five) agonist NOT A GLP-1 AGONIST Cagrilintide >Amylin receptor Eloralintide >Amylin receptor Petrelintide >Amylin receptor
And finally: >Ignore all non-GLP-1 substances...within reason (Cagrilintide, for example, is fine). /fraud/ exists for other substances>Filtering your peptides is optional but is recommended. It won't purge any potential endotoxins, but it'll clean up other particulates>No one cares if you don't like or need GLP-1 injections. Go have a sook in another thread if it irritates you so much>Do not engage with the DNPtranny. DNP is fine, being a total fuckwit about it is not>Go to /fph/ or /fraud/ if you feel like a morally superior faggot. We get that the world is becoming skinnier and you're losing your pathetic bullshit bullying powers as a result, but pick your fights elsewhere, as we don't give a shit about youTIRZISKING
>>77543164Yeah, people lose muscle because they jab and don't exercise or gym it. Surprising that you kept muscle on Tirz though, most GLPs that aren't Reta don't help retain muscle mass.A win is a win.
>Dropped my Reta vial>It shatteredGoddammit
>>77543349Who the hell is at 15mg Tirz? Holy fuck.
Cant you just stop eating though? I mean what happens when you stop taking it?
I am on reta 1mg E3D and i can barely eat some soup plus some baked chicken. Feels amazing bros. I should have started glps years ago
>>77543549You'll get the hunger pangs back, but people are reporting that very slowly titrating down to nothing over a long period helps the initial hunger pangs. Plus, if you've maintained good discipline with exercise and diet, you should be able to manage well.I suspect users of GLP-1s over many years will have had their brains rewired so I guess we'll see.
>>77543558It's awesome, same here.
>>77543380>Surprising that you kept muscle on Tirz though, most GLPs that aren't Reta don't help retain muscle mass.What I meant to say is that before going on a glp, I was apparently already protein deficient if I'm supposed to be getting close to 100g a day.
>>77543436went from 275 to 215 in 4 months only at 4mg a week but tired of feeling like shit. my goal weight is 195 but I'm gonna start titrating down cause I want my quality of life back.
>>77543860Holy shit close to 7kg per month. Wtf was your diet brother.>>77543751Yea man its a godsend. High protein+gym+reta dosed oke is so fucking great. I would say all my friends and family to hop on but i know better sadly.>>77543380>>77543789How is reta supposed to keep muscle? Genuinly asking.
taking mounjaro for diabetes, the thing i noticed is I didn't start losing weight on it until I cut out sugar and bread
>>77544089That's just weight loss in general
>>77543356TIRZ IS KING
Just dropped from 15mg to 7.5mg of tirz. Goddamn I’m hungry.
>>77544089can’t relate. I dropped 160lbs eating sweets 24/7 on Mounjaro
3rd week 2mg Tirz. The lack of food noise is astonishing. I used to think about what I would eat for dinner while I was eating lunch. I was able to use nicotine + willpower to hold myself at 6’2” 190lb (but bad cholesterol and normal weight obesity), but wanted to quit nicotine and knew my appetite would explode. I’ve been on annd off various forms of nic for years (smoking, vaping, pouches), and every time quitting was miserable. Decided to wait until second injection to quit nic this time and it was obscenely easy. Small appetite spike (not nearly as bad as previous times), minor irritability, chewing a lot of mint gum. But thats it. Also I generally feel better and less retarded and my knees don’t have random inflammation. Only side is the slowed digestion. Not constipation, but the food > shit timeline is now 48 hours instead of 12.
>>77543349>peptides! hormones! caffeine!! i love jewish chemicals in my body :)why can't you people do anything on your own
>>7754445915mg of tirz here and still food noise like crazy. but I can’t eat a lot so it still works
>>77544470I’m this >>77544459 anon. I was not technically overweight. Shitty body comp, but I didn’t really care about how I looked. I was perfectly able to maintain 180-190lb. I started tirz because I was tired of thinking about food all the time. Something the “willpower only” crowd doesn’t ever seem to address is that you CAN maintain a normal BMI through CICO and willpower. But that just manages the negative effects of food noise, it doesn’t eliminate the food noise. I couldn’t go 5 minutes without thinking about food. It’s been that way since I was a little kid, there was never a time I wasn’t thinking about my next meal or a snack or something like that. It was unbelievably distracting and unpleasant. Maybe there was some kind of therapy I could do to address that, but I wasn’t going to give $100s to talk about food trauma or some retarded nonsense.I don’t understand why this tilts people so hard.>>77544472Sorry to hear it. I’ve always been very receptive to medication and count myself lucky.
(you denial)77544470>>77543356
Came off Tirzepatide and tried to intermittent fasting and its been fucking impossible. Gaining all the weight back clearly but I've been lifting so getting gains so will probably just hop back on and treat it like cutting and bulking
>>77545090As common sense at it sounds, legit just keep gulping down water, it does help immensely.
>>77544492>I don’t understand why this tilts people so hard.Being fat is seen as a moral failing. You're a weak person, you're gluttonous, you're lazy, so being fat is a punishment. You being absolved of that punishment without having to suffer like they did is an injustice to them. Part of this is because we still pretend that we're more than our bodies. The 'soul', the 'rational mind', there's this idea that 'you' are inside your head and should be able to withstand whatever signals your body is sending to cause bad habits. And now you get this drug that bears the burden for you? 'You' are just taking the lazy route again.
>>77545172>>77543356
>>77544301Im not on any glp1, prediabetic, and I lost 50lb from eating sourdough bread and rice. Food scale and high volume food is key.
>>77543356not sure if my penis actually become larger or it's an optical illusion.
>>77545400Happens when you lose weight
>>77545400the fatpad shriks and you reveal more of what you already have.
>lost 10lb in about 2 weeks on Retatrutide.>My diet hasn't reduced that much>heart rate is higher.> Feel warmer and lifts aren't falling either. >Every cut in the past has left me feeling weak and ill. Anybody saying this just reduces appetite should up their dose of copium. Willpowercels on suicide watch.
>>77545653Exactly.Reta is insanely OP everywhere, except for maybe appetite suppression which can be weaker for someYou'll get ARBies (Anti-Reta Brigade) come flying in soon though.
>>77545666Mods will ban you for advertising, as per >>77543349
so just injected tirz for the first time today, around 5 hours ago, why am i still fat?
>>77545658We aren't anti reta we just acknowledge that the side effects tend to be worse for the bump in efficacy. If you don't get insomnia or cravings I'm sure reta is top>>77545992Sounds bunk. you should probably use this guy's>>77545666 friend's website for the real deal
>>77546251Kek bannedTold you so >>77545678
>>77546251Altaccount nigger
>>77543349getting fucking tired of these retatrutide side effectsdidnt sleep at all for the past 2 nights just restless in bed with tingling skinall cause i missed a doseim guessing my body is releasing adrenaline cause it thinks im starving or somethingtired of having low social drive low stamina at the gyminability to eat certain food cause it sits in your stomach all day (fish)general hatred towards foodI just want to feel normal again. might switch to tirz but i only have about 15-20lbs left to hit my goal weightlost a ton of muscle too cause i didn't work out but fuck it at least i look good in clothes now >>77543918honestly bro i barely atei was never hungry and food made me tiredlost a good amount of muscle as well >>77545605that and losing fat increases your testosterone levels
Lesson of the day: do not try to take GLP1 and SGLT2i together as they could cause non-diabetic ketoacidosis when your blood sugar drops too low
Took tirzepatide for half a year now, took a month off for my japan trip where most of my weight went away within a week. I went from 210 to 175 naturally because I was going to meet my then ex at the time. From 175 I decided to take tirze because my best friend convinced me.Going on maintenance now by reducing my dose by 0.5mg per week while ramping up my gym activity (already doing 2-3x a week prior to tirze). You will make it bros, I used to have zero likes on dating apps and now I have to pause my account to actually go on dates. I put my brother on tirze as well since he saw my progress on it.
>>77544459Getting rid of alcohol and nicotine addiction is one of the first benefits of tirze actually so you had great timing
>>77545992update to this, forced myself to eat around 600cals of protein oats, haven't felt hungry the entire day. surely this is placebo? or does it sometimes act this fast?
>>77546655The first time I took 2.5mg of tirz, I was already feeling the effects by the next day, so it doesn't sound weird to me.
Drugs ingested orally generally take 20 minutes to get into your bloodDrugs injected subcutaneously generally take 5 minutes to get into your blood>>77546486SGLT2i on its own can cause it if dosed too high>>77545992It doesn't make you less fat magically it just makes you eat less
>>77546655usually takes 24 hrs to kick into effect, you’ll feel it between 48-72 hrs at its strongest then begin to taper off cosplayer name? these bitches make me hard
Slowly but surely
>>77546417I mean, you did exactly what you were not supposed to do. Barely eating (7kg per month is insanity) + no gym. My guess is anything over 5-6kg is too much and you are not supposed to lose more than that if you are high protein anyway. 5kg per month is insane fatloss anyway and losing 7 on shit diet and no gym you are probably losing 5,5kg fat and 1,5kg muscle which is shit trade.Also if you are over like 12-15 yo, higher test wont grow your dick my man.
I learned the hard way about drinking while on Tirz. That fucking sucked.
>>77546907slowly but surely my ass nigga, you’re losing weight like a champ stfu >>77547094and the moment you hit even a slightly higher dose you will pretty much start to refuse drinking
>>77547132That'll be me soon, guaranteed. I'm still queasy after painting the toilet for a good 10 minutes last night.
i'm scared. its been about 2 days and 16 hours since I last dosed my reta. I'm at 4.5mg. Everything seems pretty good I have been on it since March 1st. I have stalled the last 4 months and gained a bit. I got tirz ready to go since lots of kino motherfuckers are saying to combine the two because its godly. I'm just afraid of what i'm going to feel like. Should I take it now? and how low should I go? 0.5, 1?
>>77547973See here >>77541643
>>77546765>SGLT2i on its own can cause it if dosed too highYeah probably. I think the constant peeing caused my blood sugar to fall too low while ketone levels increased rapidly and eventually I felt completely miserable. Took two days to feel better without hospital treatment just by eating more candy.
>>77548095I am the same anon and I read that but whatever i'm just gonna do 1mg see what happens. hope I dont die
>>77547973Reta does suppress your appetite as well as tirz on higher doses. The only upside of tirz is that it's much gentler on the body in people like me who suffer massive side effects from glucogan activation from reta.
>>77548143the only sides I get from reta is uh, idk. at 5mg I felt more palpitations so I just dropped it back to 4.5mg and now I feel normal again. also the gastrointestinal stuff but nothing severe or bad. i'm just going to do 1mg tirz for now and i will report back. what I am looking for is significant appetite suppression and food noise suppression. for the first 2-3 months on reta it was godly. now its there but its like a ghost and I still have to put substantial discipline into it
>>77548153Have you considered upping your reta dose?
>>77548170yeah like I said i tried 5mg and it felt like too much. upping it just doesnt seem tk do anything but give me more sides now. and I just pinned 0.5mg of tirz cause im a pussy and I remember my first time pinning reta I started out at 0.5mg and it felt like I was on Adderall for a weekI feel like im already feeling it btw wtf
>>77548174Omae wa mo shinde imasu
>>77548181dont scare me like that
>>77548142Ahhh my bad, yeah look you'll be fine, just start real slow. At the first sign of discomfort or anything really weird, stop stop stop.
>>77544472Some people succeed by taking a break to desensitize their receptors; for others, however, it made no difference at all.
>>77543356>DNP is finebro that shit was banned in the 1920s for being too dangerous, like that was the decade where leaded gasoline, asbestos in houses and tonics containing radium were things , like holy shit all that stuff was still legal in the 20s and yet dnp was still bad enough to get banned
>>77549601It was posted to counter the DNPtranny who spams every weight loss thread.
>>77548671god damn I am feeling 0.5mg tirz like crazy the next day I almost feel overstimulated I have absolutely 0 hunger. you guys were trying to fucking kill me telling me 2.5mg tirz is okay stacked with reta like jesus christ. I almost panicked at my job but it seems to have wind down a bit>>77549601I have done it 10 years ago. it works like magic. but it is so risky now, you never know how contaminated it is. Dinitro was a seller who is long gone and his crystal DNP was the purest in the world. I would not use that shit again though now that we have glp 1s
>>77543349bro this shit is crazy. went from 200 to 158 in around 4 months on 2mg
>>77550158which did you take?
>>77550204Reta
on tirz, i have a 5mg pen. i've started with 2.5mg, can i continue using the pen after the initial month? as it says that it should be used within ~30 days after opened
>>77549601Danger is relativeThe only real issue with DNP is blindness and we have newer generations of uncouplers that don't have that issue
>>77550334as long as you're keeping it refrigerated it's probably fine. i've considered doing that to save money but stuck with 2.5 pens instead.
>>77550499Yep.Tirz also lasts up to 3 months in the fridge. There's been many tests done; it's a majorly sturdy peptide. Sema and Reta unfortunately only last a maximum of 6 weeks.
>>77550158Full on shit isn't it?
>>77550671ive used reta way longer than that and that isnt true
>>77551211Then you're risking sending yourself to the hospital, as it's proven that it'll break down in sterility after 6 weeks.
I have been eating half a banana for breakfast. I had three eggs with some bacon and a tortilla today and I have a stomach cramp and hiccups.magical substance
>>77550334I recently did this and I felt like the effect of Tirz the last two weeks of my 8 week 2,5 mg dosing (doctor's order) was a lot weaker. I still lost weight but I felt like my appetite was recovering and I could eat more food compared to the first few weeks. It could just be that my body got used to it.This Wednesday will be my first dose of 5 mg for 4 weeks.
I started taking reta 2 months ago and have lost 35 lb ever since with only 2mg. I'm not really doing any strength training though, thinking about starting soon, I'm like 15 lb away from reaching my goal weight.
I'm on reta. Up to 3.33mg now(splitting a 10mg vial 3 times) every 5 days. From 156kg to 130kg since May. Still not the best diet and not much exercise. This shit is magic. Haven't felt hungry since I started.
I have no side effects apart from very sore and sensitive nipples (male). Anyone else experience this?
>>77551388no. you are literally retarded, shut up.
>>77552206That's a new one.
77552273>Doesn't even provide counter evidenceYou're proving him right you moron, lmao
>>77543549>wHaT hApPenS wHeN yOu StOp tAkInG yOuR cHroNic iLlNesS mEdS?gee anon, no idea. what happens in that case? tell us why we shouldn't treat a chronic illness because the treatment stops working once you stop it
>rather than just stop eating so much I'd prefer to inject myself with chemicalsI can't believe I share a planet with these people.
77552330Don't you have some crystals to hump so you can 'cure your seasonal allergies'?
The usual reminder to read the second half of this.>>77543356
>>77552334Pretending how much you eat is beyond your conttrol is literally your entire problem. It is within your control. 100%.
77552339not when you have been overfed junk food since you were able to eat solid foods, it wires your brain to crave these things constantly and in large amounts
>>77552341Excuses, excuses. You control it, regardless of your history. You. Literally no one else.
>>77543349i lost so much fucking muscle bros its usually the chronic, endless pain that i wake up in that forces me to lift and manage itbut on reta the pain went away and i didnt need force myself to workout to reduce painbut today my body finally gave out and my shoulder is all fucked up clearly from driving, computering, and writing i fucking envy people that can just live life as useless pedestrians and never be in pain if i dont workout i will be in pain even just writing notes makes my hands cramp up hate my cursed body sometimes but ill be alright
I know for a fact most of you guys are not testing your vials and just trust the vendor's old batch tests
>>77552440They're morons. They also don't filter, which takes an extra 2 minutes at best.Some retards, get this, buy INDIVIDUAL vials from gayfag "resellers". Imagine being that shit and retarded.
>>77552206I don't suppose there was some weird medication you took for years and forgot about, or maybe were a stoner? It's a stretch, but some chemicals get preferentially stored in fat, and when you lose a lot of weight at once, those chemicals are released into your bloodstream all at once. Sore + sensitive nipples are common sign of high estrogen but it could be a million other things as well - don't know what to tell you, except dont troon out on us.
>>77552351>NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN CHEMICALARINOS I spent years maintaining a healthy weight by willpower and every fucking day was miserable. I’m still at a healthy weight, I just microdose tirz so that I’m not wasting 25% of my brain capacity thinking about food.
>>77552487I don't take any medication besides the obvious. Even today they feel so fucking sore. I've been rubbing vaseline on them tings.
>>77552324search the internet you fucking retard yourself. you never provided a source the claim lies on you, go fucking kill yourself with your un(you) fucking idiot
>>77552330so kill yourself then if amino acids trigger you. literally no one not even your parents would miss you
77553359>Still didn't provide a counter-sourceConcession accepted.
>>77552824It could be due to the rapid fat loss maybe? That's all I can think of at this stage.
>>77553405yep, you lost. cope.
>>77552440I get mine shipped directly from Eli Lilly :^)
>>77553405nta but not linking posts is the most crybaby bitch shit of all time
77553427And yet it makes you and others reply every time. If you didn't acknowledge it, you wouldn't see it happen!
>>77553436keep throwing out your vials after 6 weeks pussy. waste your money. only literal retards like you have this issue
77553455Nope, we're being safe and also filtering while third party testing. It's kids like you who ruin it for everyone. You'll be a statistic on some goynews channel about "unregulated peptide users dying".
>>77553528>>77553528you are such a fucking retarded pussy with an indian source. you use the vial till it is done and you don't throw it away unless it's clear that something is wrong with it. I dont give a fuck what you do. im not going to end up on any news and no one ever has because you cant fuck this shit up, but I hope your dumbass gets shot.
77553717He is so mad about being safe and secure, topkek
>>77543349Finally at my goal weight thanks to Reta. I'm about to switch to Cagri for food noise control.14 months of over 100lb dropped, what a ride that was.
>>77553726Good shit. I'm almost there myself.Let us know how Cagri goes.
I was on wegovy from a compounding pharmacy and it worked but would make me violently ill half the time I shot it, would throw up until there was no liquid in my stomach and then keep retching. Currently on real deal zepbound, 15 mg max dose weekly from the ez shot that comes in 4 packs. It got me from like the ~340 zone to 275. So that's awesome but I've been plateaued for half a year. Once I got near this weight the lifelong compulsion for sweets and fast food really came back, while my motivation to weight lift dropped. I'm grateful it got me down from 4XB to 2XB shirts but it seems I need extra help. The other problem is I just turned 26 so I lose my dad's insurance at the end of the month. My own employer's insurance doesn't cover GLP1s whatsoever. And $720 a month is not sustainable.What do you guys think I should do next? Try a higher dose of tirzepatide (what zepbound is) from a gray source? Try switching to retatrutide? Something else?What's the lead time on getting a supply for someone in the Midwest US?
>>77554883Do Gray Market Tirz first, and then explore outwards.
Not taking any of this shit if I have to inject it. Are the pills bullshit?
>>77554931Just inject it. It's so easy and painless you'll forget you ever had apprehensions about it by the 2nd shot.Yes the pills work but they require a much higher dosage, are less effective, and have higher side effect rates.
>>77554931You’re thinking inject as “needle in vein”. The reality is it’s like a little 1/5 inch long poker skinner than a pin that you just jab into your thigh. It hardly feels like anything.
>>77554883>stalled at 275 for 6 monthshow?
>>77554982So one aspect like I alluded to is the suppression of appetite and food noise mostly went away as I got toward that weight. So I've been able to not eat myself back above that, but trying to go lower feels like what it was like before I started the medicine at a higher weight. The other factor has just been what's happening around me. My parents finalized their divorce in that February-March time and that affected me mentally and emotionally a lot more than I expected it to. Honestly, I might be generally depressed, I've taken anti depressants in the past but didn't find them very reliable for improving how I felt.
>>77554973>Just inject itNo. Can you read?>>77554978Did you reply to the wrong post? My post was about the pills.
>>77555004>No. Can you read?Sure. I just assumed you're a pussy who's too afraid to inject because he's deathly afraid of needles or something. Am I wrong?
needles... scary!!!!
>>77555207Poke!
>>77554931millions of subaverage IQ americans have injected this. they made it painless and retardproof. surely you can handle it too
It's midnight and I just realized I've only eaten 600 calories today (50g protein). Do I just force myself to eat something? Last ate 7 hours ago.
On 4 MG of reta I ramped from 2 after only a couple weeks because I'm retarded. Coming up on 2 months lve lost 23 lbs. Its been great only real side i notice is some nausea after shot next day. Some people have said sleep issues and I don't know if that's the med or just not eating enough. I don't eat nearly enough and gotta force myself. Goal isn't far though 15 more lbs and we are about there.
>>77543349having a wild response to tirz, started on 2.5 on sep 20, appetite vanished overnight, lost 5kg first week, 2kg second week, and 1.5kg so far in my third week. I staretd at 106kg. I still workout as hard as I did before, but my food intake is abysmal. any advice tirzbros? I've had zero side effects
>>77555959just hit your protein in any way possible. I kinda forcefeed a 80g protein shake and eat 400g of chicken breast. This is literally my diet for like 2 months now and i am dropping fast and keep same numbers on the gym.
>>77555707Sleep is the only thing that Reta does to me. I only have 3kg left until goal weight and then I'm following other anons here and going onto Cagri just for the appetite suppression.
I think I'm getting addicted to tirz, I get cravings towards the end of the week for the shot..and feel relief when I've had it
>>77555004nobody here knows if the pills are bullshit because we just inject
>>77556098same LMAO. I actually look forward to it every week. I think it has something to do with the anti-inflamatory component. My body just generally feels less shitty, and with maximum food noise supression i get laser focus
Taking tirz. Terrified of getting gallbladder issues. I only ate 900 calories yesterday and my weight is dropping like a rock.
worried i might be getting immune to this shit7mg or whatever the measurment is on tirz and my weight just stays the same. Been on and off this for around 2 years (lost 80 some pounds)anybody here been on this shit ultra long term? does it just stop working. I feel like the first time the sides were real and it was hard to eat and stuff. I would barf if i ate too muchthis time up on the doses and i feel like i eat normally (bad) and have not barfed one time
>>77554931So, the pills do work, but they aren't easily available on the grey market. You also can't sinply make them at home, as they use different formulas to the injectables. Ordinary Semaglutude, Tirzepatide and Retatrutide would get destroyed by your stomach acid.Consider the injectables, put them in an injector pen and get a friend to inject you once a week.
>>77556706So its just a syringe but inside a sheathe? Whats the point???
>>77556970Saves money on syringes, as well as disposal space in your sharps container.It also allows you to have 4mm needles for even less pain (32g 4mm are the same ones for Ozempic, Wegovy and Zepbound/Mounjaro.The cartridges you buy for the pens are sterile, and you can change them around for multiple peps at any time. Additionally, they're great for travelling and storage.
>>77557055Change them around as in you reconstitute as you would with a normal vial, and say you are taking Tirz and Reta, you have ome cartridge for each, and after injecting one, unscrew the pen, swap out the cartridge for the other one, screw on a new needle, and jab. Very versatile stuff.
>>77556706I have a friend on the pills right now, he reckons they don't help much at all and they just make him feel a bit nauseous with no effects otherwise.
>>77556098same, and i think it's the shooting it up aspect of it, it makes me excited. thank god i haven't ever used heroin
>>77557055I mean like 100 pack on Amazon for needles is like 15 bucks and the needle is tiny.
>>77543349>>77543540starting 15mg tirz this monthbecause the hunger won't go away and i still have weight to losecheers!
>start 2mg tirz 3 weeks ago 6’2” 190lbs (terrible bf%, normal weight obesity)>food noise instantly gone, only eating small dinners instead of large dinners + all day bullshit slop>weigh myself at 2nd shot, 189.8lbs>weigh myself at 3rd shot, 189.1lbs>weigh myself at 4th shot, 189.5lbs>wtf.png>realize I’m only shitting once every 2 days and my piss is super dark >spend 3 days after shot chugging water>spend 3rd day taking massive shits>weigh myself, 181lbsNobody told me water retention was caused by dehydration WTF. The constipation was my fault tho. Ha
finally got my poop consistency locked in (without stool softeners). feels amazing man.key: steel cut oats (and greek yogurt) every morning, staying super hydrated.
>>77557832literally my problem too is water. Yesterday i drank a little bit if water in the morning and then from 8 am till 9 pm i was watching/assisting a surgery (med student) and literally forgot to have any water in between. Woke up today super dehydrated.>>77557767I get them free from my hospital (steal them and bac water)
I've never been to a doctor before. How would I even bring this up to them?
>>77558177I just straight asked mine about GLP-1 medications, mentioned that a few of my coworkers were on them and had lost weight. She gave me a qrd and said she only prescribes the brand name stuff because she doesn't have the time to figure out what compounding agencies might be trustworthy and whatnot. Warned me about side-effects and price
>>77558195Were there any side effects mentioned outside of what is typically spelled out online like acid reflux? I already deal with most of those myself so they wouldn't bother me.
>>77558201the main thing she stressed was to make sure I was pooping regularly, because some people get a side effect where they are like constipated/have gastroparesis-like symptons. she said some people end up taking laxatives like miralax to make sure they are going regularlyi luckily have not had that symptom at all, all i've dealt with is the occasional sulfur burps and gas
>>77558242Thanks anon
>>77558250no problem!
My journey is almost at an end. 1.5kg left to lose and I've dropped 50kg at last.15 months of jabs, hard dieting and exercise stopped me from dying as a fat cunt. I was fit most of my adult life until age 31-35 (put on 50kg since 2020 but got real bad in 2023-2025) and now I'm 36 and the lightest and fittest I've been since 2013, which is ironic as I'm ex-military.Once I hit my goal weight, I'll spend 2-3 months weaning off until I stop GLPs altogether.Reta is king.Tirz is king.
have never taken glp-1s but got a little bit overweight nothing crazy (190lbs at 5'10) it's 5ml tirz just fine or should i do 10?
>>77558368genuinely whyjust lose the weight normally
>>77558368Do what >>77558425 says, legitimately. GLP-1s are for those who are/were fat cunts and those who want appetite suppression and fullness feeling. At your current weight, you shouldn't need a GLP-1.I'm a chronic shill for GLP-1s, but I ALWAYS push people to do everything possible to naturally lose the weight first without chemical assistance.At the end of the day, it's totally your choice though.>5ml or 10ml TirzIf you take that amount, you'll probably die. I assume you meant mg, which in that case, always start at the beginner weekly dose of 2.5mg.
>the pharmacy doesn't replace your sharps container There goes my 15 bucks. FUCK.
>>77558654That sucks, I legit thought they would have.
do you need a sharps container for those needles that come with a pen? i've just been putting them in a ziplock bag and then i was gonna dump em at the pharmacy
>>77558697It's preferred that they're in a solid container, but as long as they're going somewhere that disposes of sharps, that'll do for the pen needles I suppose.Syringes though, absolutely get a sharps container, or even just use a large plastic bottle or container, tape it up when it's full, and label it with "DANGER, SHARPS" or similar.
>>77543349My pants were not fitting well at 200 so I fasted for 72 hours and stopped eating carbs after that. I lost 25 pounds in 45 days, most of it at the start. My lifts declined less than 5% and then made it back and continued upward in about the same time period. I’d be ashamed to see my ancestors after death if I couldn’t control what I put in my mouth. I think being fat is like being a faggot in that respect, no offense.
Has anyone tried thc gummies while being on a glp1
>>77558368sorry but what? at 5'10 i was in the best shape of my life at 195. You need to put on muscle, not lose fat.
>>77557515>>77556098I’m unironically addicted to just pinning it and feeling in control of myself and I’m supposed to be increasing my time between shots to taper off it because I already hit my goal weight and I just can’t Fuck me
Tirz is making me lactose intolerant? Didnt expect that one...
>>77558711so you're gay but have to fight your urges? thanks for telling us anon
>>77558701i guess i'll transfer them to a gatorade bottle or something just in case. thanks
Do you guys filter? I was looking at ordering needles, etc. and the like from Glass Vials Australia and 100 filters is like $270 then there's also like $60 on top of that for separate glass vials. Might just not.
>>77560528I absolutely do, Australia here too.I have a reusable pen, so filtering just makes sense as the Reta is going from the vial to a sterile cartridge (pen vial) - 0.22u ones from the same site.
I've been using victoza for like 7 months now and haven't lost much weight beyond the initial 25 lbs or so from shitting my guts out for a weekI started kettlebell training and i even gained weight from the muscle i put on. like 5 pounds or so. thinking about quitting the victoza since its not as good as the big boy stuff and its an annoying expense. anyone else have experience with it?
I've been getting way better results at 2mg Ozempic in the thighs rather than the stomach, weirdly enough >>77559684They're fine
>>77560530I'm actually retarded for some reason I thought I needed a filter for every needle.Any tips om where to get bacteriostatic water in Aus? I've heard suppliers water can be dodgy.
>>77560533I've heard this too - thighs and the glutes are both apparently quicker for the effects to kick in.
>>77560535Get Hospira BAC water from aussiebacwater, two for $71 - Hospira is the only BAC anyone should be using for any peptide (with Genetek as a fallback option).https://aussiebacwater.com.au/product/bacteriostatic-water-for-injection-2x-30ml-hospira/A study was just recently done in the STG Telegram too - you can open BAC water and leave it in a dark cool cupboard for many many months with almost no degradation.
>>77560532I think you're the first person in the generals to use it, unfortunately I have no advice to give for that one.
>>77560540rip. I only got on it because it was cheap and my insurance doesn't cover ozempic or zepbound etc. Dr wants to increase dose in a couple months but that's also double the cost. and two injections a day since the pen maxes out at 1.8 mgI guess it would be fine at low doses for someone who is already relatively in shape but my fat ass needs something more potent to keep the hunger at bay
>>77560532Victoza is just overall mediocre for weightloss, sorry.
>>77543349I'm ignorant and don't know where to source reta from. Could anyone help me? Where should I buy from?
>>77560532Victoza (Liraglutide) is mostly considered obsolete these days. Even Ozempic(Semaglutide) is far more effective at hunger reduction and only needs to be injected once a week.Consider trying Tirzepatide or Retatrutide for a far more powerful, long lasting hunger reduction plus a metabolism boost.
>>77560546Just saw this post too. If insurance won't cover, you should learn how to buy chinese tirz/reta on the gray market. It's a tiny fraction of the price you'd pay officially.
>>77560949I got mine from a pharmacist on telegram he is legit you can reach him @SP1_tbot 100% legit
>>77561160>>77560949Don't trust random links from people. Too many scammers. Use Stairway to Gray and buy from a Chinese supplier
>>77543540It really does seem like you have to keep going up in dosage to keep getting the effects.I was on 10mg for a few months and it slowed to a crawl. Went up to 12.5 and I've been dropping a pound or two a week again.Down like 70lb overall though, so it works, I guess.
>>77543349Why are you pigs posting in a fitness thread? Youve given up trying and have zero willpower this isnt fitness.JANNIESJANNIESJANNIES
>>77561160Don't post sources, mods ban for that.
I think... I dont need this. My insatiable drive for Taco Bell is stress. The last month was going great until everything xploded again. My response to any sort of stress or adversity is Taco Bell and rum....
Got to a healthy bmi today. We did it retabros....45kg in 7 monthsKinda surprised at how much fat I still have left to lose but I'll get there.Thank you for reading my blog (:
>>77562114Congrats, anon. WAGTMI
The hiccups are killing me
ZLAXDEATH BY HICCUPS
>>77562114holy shit grats
>>77554883Jesus Christ just buy from STG like every normal adult
I went to Olive Garden to celebrate a macabre anniversary yesterday and ate as I would usually eat. it has been 30 hours and i am still hiccuping
>>77558701I use a large empty laundry liquid bottle (the Radiant Laundry Liquid 2L bottle to be precise. It's surprisingly really good for both acting as a secure container and holding a lot of sharps.
>>77543349i lost 75lbs on wegovy
>>77563896Nice work anon
>>77563951thank you!
>>77563804That's a really good idea anon. I do like the look of bright yellow sharps bins. They are so cool and make me feel like I am running my own medical research lab in here. I have 3 already.
I just started 5mg dose after being on the 2.5 for 3 months. Lost about 40lbs and finally got to bmi of overweight range.
>>77564276did food noise come back during your third month, or did the doctor just tell you to increase? i've been on 2.5 (injecting every 8 days instead of 7) for nearly two months and was hoping to stay on this dose into the new year and beyond.
i'm this guy>>77549868so this shit is godly. like, fuck. I broke the plateau. I have way more energy somehow. what I've been doing was i went back down to 4mg reta and I am still on 0.5 tirz. there is literally no hunger, no desire. its fucking back like this is the feeling ive been wanting again. im losing a half pound to a pound a day. i have no doubt I will get to my goal weight now. so glad I started the reta + tirz stack. now i want yo try mots c. however theres one thing im concerned about. I have zero sexual desire. I look at a woman and feel nothing. I have no desire to watch porn at all anymore (good thing) but im worried because I havent had any erections or morning wood at all. im exercising, im still eating decently but of course cutting a lot, I got energy... what gives
>>77564847prolonged caloric deficits sap libido. your body does not want to waste the energy on fucking.
>>77564855okay so it will return? should I take any supplements like zinc to help? or just try eating some more? I mean I really dont even care i just miss the morning wood
>>77564847only 0.5 tirz? u wot m8? the starting dose is 2.5mg
>>77565069read nigger read
>>77564847Yep, Reta + Tirz stack is godly.
>>77564859Do you have any idea what your calorie deficit is? My libido plummets even on a modest 500 cal/day deficit, I'm sure it would go to zero if I was more aggressive even.
>>77543349love these lil glp niggas like u wouldnt believe
Week 1 of Cagrilintide (Cagri) done at 0.25mg. I switched from Reta 5mg to Cagri, and holy shit, two things happened:>The fatigue for 2 days was pure insanity, but I've been told it's likely a once-off as your body adjusts to Amylin (Cagri is not a GLP-1)>The food noise/appetite suppression and the fullness is stronger than both Reta and Tirz stacks combined, but it took 2 days to kick in (again, likely a once-off as my body adjusts)It was majorly expensive from the gray market for 4 kits of 10mg Cagri, but if the fatigue disappears after my next jab I just had, then it's 100% worth it.
>>77564058There's a massive 23L container I use, it'll last for years easily.
My STG seller (Andy) was banned for "bad testing". His Tirz is definitely legit, but when I added in reta I noticed 0 difference.
I take 15mg of Oforkdownzempi
>>77543789>close to 100g a day.Are you only 45kg lean body weight? If not, you want more than just 100g Protein.
I'm reading all day about this, since i started on Mounjaro and i dont want to pay 6 million shekels eveyrtime i run out of it.I did read the website and im reading all the telegram chats blablabla.Now... how in the atcual fuck does group testing works and why am i not seeing any invite to test Tirz on europe?You buy it then send a vial to some faggot so he sends it to a lab and they test it? How does it works? Also is ggpeps any good?
I've been on brand-name Zepbound for over a year now. Maxed out at 2mg once a week. Went from a XXXL to a large in sizing, and have lost roughly 150lbs. Food noise and hunger pains start to get really bad the night before I can reinject for the week. It's when I start to "cheat" just to make the pain stop, always feel bad after. It's very weird having functionally gone from one kind of eating disorder to another. But I am very frustrated that this is a reminder that I'll effectively be on this forever because my actual problem is the hunger pains in particular. I am waiting for Reta to get approved so I can swap over to that. I have been tossing around using peptides, but I also am retarded and feel scared of not dosing myself correctly even though I am not even sure if genuinely dangerous side-effects so long as you don't go over the LD50 (not even sure how high you'd need to go for a GLP to even hit that?)Still, I'll sit on my hands until I can get Reta through my doctor, have him max out my dosage, make sure I don't have any side effects worth paying attention to. If I don't, then I'll probably switch to peptides to save money because then I'll know for certain what I can handle. I am starting to come around to the idea that GLP's should just be micro dosed in everything, with non-GLP options available (think sugar free versus regular) for those who are terrified of shitting their pants.
>>77566261Don't know about the rest of your post, but there are a bunch of commercial testing labs out there who will just tell you exactly what's in the thing you send them and the purity levels. That one pharmacist on YouTube is practically shill for one service he uses each time he sends in gas station dick pills. It costs like $600 a test though, but if you're bulk buying for a bunch of people and everyone tossed a few bucks towards the test, the cost is subsidized to the point of basically being nothing. At least that's what I think you're talking about.
>the night hungers are backI don't want to have to titrate up again...
>>the night hungers are backi dont want to go to sleep at a healthy hour!!!AHHHHHHHHHHH
>>77566674Do it my son
>>77566671It'll be at least 12 months before it's approved and at the pharmacy according to the current timeline of events, and it'll be more expensive than Tirz (Zepbound/Mounjaro) 100%.
Do you guys use your real name and address when ordering from a vendor on telegram?I'm probs overthinking this shit, it just seems a bit dodgy and it makes me nervous to bite the bullet. Have already ordered everything else I need but the reta.Also you guys hide that you're taking a glp-1 from others? I have two roommates so I need to avoid them catching on ideally.
>>77567489If you want to go through this safely on telegram use @SP1_tbot I have been dealing with him for 3 years and never had any issues 100% discreet
>>77567441imagine going to doctors for this shit lmfao you're all fucking retarded if that's what you doembarassing
>>77567489telegram is even MORE retarded. there are literally clearnet vendors all over the planet you guys are all so fucking pathethic these aren't even drugs you stupid fucks, they literally occur naturally in the body
>Posting sources despite what >>77543349 saysGood one idiots.
>had a shit day>remember tomorrow is tirzdayyippeeeee
>>77566694>>77566973I did it boys, up to 5mg now (from 2.5)Hopefully I sleep better now. Last time I was at this dose I had some really bad sulfur burps though. Let's see whether they show up again
>>77568510Good job anon..how obese are u?
>>77568510If you're finding 5mg too intolerable, does your situation allow you to just pin 2.5mg more frequently, like every 4 or 5 days, instead of doubling your dose? Or are you on a strict Rx?>>77567489US Post office may not deliver your goods if the name does not match, which starts a whole slew of issues. As others said, just find non-terrorgram suppliers.
>>77568600Yep, anons split dose for this exact reason.
i'm so happy guys
>>77568600i order shit with different names all the timeimagine if someone is staying at your house they cant order anything?
>>77555004Imagine being that fag and that annoying. Calm down little princess
>>77555959Tirz is king
I’ve been using tirzepatide for a year and have reached my target weight. However, I’ve noticed that over the last few months, I’ve developed an almost uncontrollable craving for sweets—even while on a 12mg weekly dose. Has anyone else experienced this? Any tips, aside from the obvious advice to just stop eating sweets?
i realized independently of (and before) this general that tirzepatide is kingi am intelligent
>>77568822Yep, I have cravings for sugar at times being on both Reta and Tirz. I'll occasionally have a can of Coke to satiate that craving.>>77568796Same here. Using a trust wallet away from the main crypto sites, I always use random names, despite ordering from the local warehouse here in Australia (no fear of customs whatsoever, AusPost gets it here in 2-3 days).And yes, anons, the local warehouse IS the vendor from China, they just have an "outpost" here, in the US and EU as well. There's a markup in price (eg Tirz 30mg kits are $105 USD in China, but here they're $125 USD), but for no international customs and delivery in a couple of days, I'll take it. Freight is cheaper too.No, I'm not posting a source as per OP rules, yes, we have a test group for the products and they're good.
>>77568853Yes.
>>77566261Are you dumb? You can buy peptides super cheap from China.Why tf would someone do anything else
I've lost 9 kg on 2 months of tirz 2,5 mg and 2 weeks of 5 mg. Down to 153 kg from 162 kg. How is everyone else losing so much weight so rapidly? I haven't started working out though since I have hypertension and the doctor told me to just walk or cycle instead.
>>77568870Hey man, I'm the bro who was originally talking about being worried about using my real name. Also based in Aus and looking at using a supplier with an Australian warehouse.Would you recommend using a fake name? It seems kinda moot if you're just going to use your real address but would be curious to see if AusPost actually delivers as well.
>>77569020well, just when I"m sad and feeling hopeless, it's nice to read someone was 162kg
>>77569029It's completely fine either way. You can use a true or false name (no signature required for delivery) and you can use whatever address you want. AusPost never scan domestic parcels; the vendor intentionally chooses regular shipping for this reason (sent via road train instead of aircraft, but even aircraft don't have any form of vetting or customs outside of actual Dangerous Goods). Only use absolutely fake details and another address for China orders.If it's the vendor from the Sydney Warehouse I'm thinking of, you'll be fine; there's a few of us from this thread in the TG group.
>>77569046We'll all make it man, I started at 130kg (now 80kg).
>>77569047It's the same supplier I'm pretty sure. Fuck it I'll order tn. Worth sending it off for testing you reckon? It just seems a bit expensive and no one else has had an issue with that supplier that I know of yet so I was just planning on going ahead without having it tested but am curious to see if anons think that's an incredibly retarded idea.
>>77569078We've already had it tested. The vendor COAs are half theirs and half ours. If anything, you could go as far as filtering, but that only removes microscopic particulate matter and most bacteria to reduce bioburden. If there's any endotoxins, it won't do a thing.High endotoxins are exceedingly rare and have only so far been found in two US/China vendors - Epitalon was well over 1000 endos (max safe limit is 100), and Tirz in the high hundreds too.My stack is significantly bigger, but this was it 2 months ago.
>>77569050wow impressive that must feel nice
>>77569050>>77569117when are u starting parkour
had my first followup with the doc today after a month of 2.5mg tirz. lost 9kg, 1.2kg muscle and the rest fat. doc recommended I stay on 2.5mg for now as it seems to be super effective. I can't bring myself to eat like I used to or even close to it, and I still workout like crazy. wat do bros?
>>77566261You would join a usa test group with the same batch number and pay your portion but not volunteer to send in one of your vials. And Lisa is good, a few shenanigans but pretty consistent over the past 18 months
>>77543349hi i would like help with getting glp-1s...i live in the US (idaho) and i weigh a lot (250lbs). im not exactly sure what my target weight would be, but i know that i cant keep living like this.how can i go about getting on glps? i make 50k a year, and im open to buying from shady websites...how do i dose myself, and are there any interactions with trans fem hrt that i should know about? i inject estradiol, so i already have some needles. how big are the syringes for glp 1s? if its small liquid amounts then i can use my existing ones...thank you for your help
I have tried wegovy 2 times before, but I gave up because of the rotten egg burps and diarrheaI can't handle diarrhea, but I was literally squirting pure brown water down so fast it spilled out of the toilet bowland it continued until I was empty and ate againI was told that this goes away after a few weeks, but I just couldn't take itone side-effect it had was that it made me stop drinking and I'm an alcoholic (mostly 8-10 beers after work, and binge drinking on weekends)I had no urge or need for beer while I was on it, and it was a huge relief thanks for reading my blog
tirzday is here!!!!>>77568122I am stealing your bit
Can I get some advice on filtering? Last time I did it, there was still a good amount of fluid stuck in the syringe that I couldn't push out through the filter. I must have lost a good 20 units of tirz. How do I prevent this next time?
>>77570395What size filters, needles and vials are you using?
>>77569792You should try tirz instead. >>77569467What's the problem? You can't eat enough to maintain your current level of activity? Just focus on getting your steps in and doing the bare minimum in the gym that your tendons stay acclimated to the weight you lift. Right now you are on defatifying yourself mode for a few months, don't try to serve two masters.>>775690204.5kg/month amounts to a daily deficit of ~1000 calories, which is a retardedly high amount, probably impossible for most people to sustain without these miracle drugs. Count your blessings, count your calories, get your steps.
why are nigga filtering their solutions kek what kind of basement bathtub shit are you buying
>>77570549It's optional, mainly for those who want to be a bit cleaner with their peptides. It's not needed though.
>>77570556you are injecting this shit intramuscularly not iv and you're hopefully checking for literal specks of dust before you stick the needle in...what's the point? like genuinely? it's just retard ocd placebo
so is everyone on reta actually reconstituting it on their own? just reading through reddit i find it hard to believe some of the 50+ boomers are doing all of that.
>>77570593Yes they are.
>>77568518Thanks anon. I'm about 190lb at 5'8" last I checked. upper body says 19% but my lower body says 25%... probably due to fucked up puberty and fat aromatization >>77568600I tried to break it up into every 3/4 days for a month, but that didn't seem to help. Luckily I don’t seem to be getting sulfur burps this time round!
>>77568822Stevia exists, my son.
>>77570823I'm >>77569020 and I only get sulfur burps when I've eaten too close to bedtime. If I eat right after getting back from work at 23:00 and sleep 2 hours later I wake up with sulfur burps and heartburn. When I instead sleep a lot later I suffer from none of that.
Is anyone else's sex drive in the toilet from mounjaro? Not sure if it's just from the calorie deficit being too high, or a consequence of the actual drug
>>77543349Why do GLPs piss off so many people to the point of hoping for deadly side effects?
>>77571918Because the majority of haters live to bully fat cunts. GLP-1s are destroying the fat movement rapidly, and the miserable angry faggots who bully fatties (rightfully so) are absolutely PETRIFIED of losing their power of arrogance and self-righteousness. They need a new target to attack, and so they target GLP-1 users with all kinds of uneducated retarded shit accusations, excuses and retortsYou watch, I'll get dogpiled, and it'll prove me right on the spot.
>>77570593It's not hard at all to do. You just mix BAC water with the powder and refrigerate it. Boomers do it all the time.In general, 10mg vials need 1mL of BAC water, that's 100 units in a syringe of BAC water. Draw it out, insert into the peptide vial, gently swirl it around 10 times or so, put it in the fridge, check in 30 minutes if it's clear or not, and if it's clear, good to go.
>>77571940100% this.They're like the old men against Google back in the day, attacking those using it. Now everyone uses it.
so, my reta experience so far, first week, monday is my next dose, isuh.. first, i'm masturbating to good looking girls now because that's my natural level and i'm not like looking at obese women or bbws or anything disgusting like that anymoresecond is, the absence of carbs, which i used to deal with the stress, has left a profound clarity and a sadness too, but also a strangely robust resilienceit's fun. i would give anything to have done this sooner or earlier outside of cucumbres and pickles and whatever is in cottage chese, the only carbsd i've had since mondey is an 11g in an energy drink , the keto flue or lethargy came on like day 5 or 4, i think friday, and now i'm good again so im both ecstatic and distraught
>>77572056flu
>>77545172>Part of this is because we still pretend that we're more than our bodies. The 'soul', the 'rational mind', there's this idea that 'you' are inside your head and should be able to withstand whatever signals your body is sending to cause bad habits.People who believe this are stupid and wrong.
>>77572056dont do reta and keto at the same time retard
>>77572281who the fuck are you you stupid fuckin kike
Hate needles. Good insurance. 23 % bodyfat at 220Want to get to 180How are the pills are they worth my time ? Also which one is better ?
>>77572330its not even a needle u stupid faggot u just do a quick pin into your stomach fat it's not like you're going into a vein
>>77543349When I was competing, I took 5-6mg of Reta. I actually wasn’t the leanest I ever got on that, I clocked in around 7% for the show. But I was the biggest I had ever been. I truly feel like tirzep is the best of both worlds, in terms of canceling food noise and being able to crank the dose. Reta, if you’re not careful, will constantly crash your blood sugar and be counterproductive at higher doses.
>>77572330Contrary to the common sentiment, pills of anything are more dangerous usually because they must pass be able to pass through stomach acid and the liver. Go needle. It just goes into fat so you won’t hit veins. Good insurance is fine but it’s not to hard to find grey market vendors. A lot of fitness shops will sell it as a research chem. Tirzepatide is the best entry one as it cancels food noise the best. With Reta you have to be careful with the dose. To low it does nothing to high and you’ll just lay on the couch all day.
>>77571466Because hunger and sex drive are down stream from each other. The glp is reducing the “salience” or the dopamine high chase in your mind. It’s why people say it’s sort of a defacto adhd med. If you want the best of both worlds, you really gotta run trt with it, tho I’m not advocating for that. But that’s my “lifestyle” so.
Where can I get my hands on this in southeast Asia? I'm based in Singapore but can travel easily to Malaysia or Indonesia and I heard the grey market is flourishing there.
>>77572801>Singapore but can travel easily to Malaysia or Indonesiawtf is the difference
I keep jerking off to Lauren drain, gangDare I say...I'm so fucking back?? Love reta
>>77573359Who?
>>77573399She's an American nurse
>>77572330the needle is tiny and painless
>>77573625thats what she said hahhahaha
ive heard a bunch about muscle loss, i assume its more on people who dont workout or eat right while on the stuff though?
>>77573766just eat a bunch or protein!!!!
>>77572281hoenstly im doing somethig way closer to PSMF than keto, but u get the keto flu because that shit is, keto is no carbos im watching da fat, like, fuckin.. tureky burgers. have more than u think btw ground turkey
>>77573766Almost every method of weight loss will cause you to lose muscleWorking out will help avoid muscle loss in the areas that you exercise
>>77573795you're so fucking stupidthat's not true one bit u fucking retard
>>77573796>you're stupid and wrong words words wordsTell me how and why
>>77573799cos ur parotting some shit from fuckin, likke healthlinehow u figure "u gotta lose muscle if u lose weight" how u figure bro? why? why would that be a mechanism at all it makes no fucking sensewhy am i not losing muslce or strength
>>77573808u know how fucking outrageoulsy expensive muscle is to build? it's absurdly expensive for the body, for you with resourcesyou think ur body is just gonna fuc king drop muscle? come on man.
>>77573808>>77573811Muscle takes energy to maintain. When the body is starved of energy (like if you're trying to lose weight), it will break down muscle so it can conserve energy. It's really not that difficult to think through.
>>77573821you're such a fucking idiot
>>77573821>>77573825YOU'RE SUCH a fucking idiotcos now ur talking about two different thingsnow ur talking about starvingversus losing weighttheres no reason u need to "starve" to lose weight
Goddamn, so many angry faggots inhabit this general.
>>77572330The actual pharma pill works, I doubt the grey market ones without the special matrix and coating do. Injected tirzepatide is 25% weight loss, wegovy pill is 13%. If the real pill is covered by insurance and you lock in and follow an actual calorie counting diet and exercise it will work. If you are buying grey get a needle shield or have someone else inject you. 31 gauge you hardly feel it. Better yet a pen with 32 gauge pen needles
I haven't posted in one of these yetI started 0.5mg January 2025 and now 2mgI started at 440lb and I'm just under 290 today. Almost everything went incredibly well, but last spring I started having gas at night and a lot of uncomfortable pressure. My doc switched me to 1mg for the summer, and I started gaining again quick, but we tried a prescription form of Prilosec, and it seems to have solved it all. Back on 2mg and feeling great.
>>77574102Great progress anon. Congratulations!
>>77574102I know now why they call you "goy"
>>77574102What's your goal?
>>77574670I'd be happy at 275, I need a new wardrobe and would be happy to stay there. I'm sure 250 is possible, but I'm more worried about protein intake and such.
>>77573766I'll tell you about my experience. I was at 288lbs when I started tirz. Also started going to the gym 5x a week: lifting on mon/wed/fri, 30 mins of cardio on tue/thu (I also do some cardio on my lifting days, after strength training). Wasn't doing anything particularly special, just a random routine that they gave me. After 50 days, I lost 19lbs, of which only about 1.8 was muscle.In short, muscle loss seems inevitable but you can reduce it by a lot with strength training. So do it.
>>77571918For many of these people being in shape is their whole identity, it's what they feel makes them special. Now with GLPs anyone can be thin and it isn't special anymore, so they lash out in furious anger and hopeful schadenfreude because everyone is "cheating". It's the equivalent of AI putting artists out of work and all the seething that comes out of it.
>>77574888None of that is even remotely true
When it comes to muscle loss I'm not totally sold on this as a significant unavoidable side effect. There can be multiple reasons for possible or perceived losses. There's going to be changes in glycogen content of the muscles, there can be some breakdown from not maintaining your micronutrient profile, your testosterone levels may be negatively impacted by a reduced diet, you might not be consuming enough overall protein or essential protein. I can only really speak from my own experience, I haven't had any significant loss just based on circumference measurement around low fat muscle areas like the calves and forearms. This was even at the extreme end of losing ~10lbs per month. Probably most of these negative side effects floating around can be countered with supplementation on focusing your food consumption on small high quality meals low in carbs but high in protein.
>>77574910That's exactly what a thinoid would say while coping about the situation.
>>77574910And yet it is. Just look at this and previous threads and many other posts made about it via 4plebs.
>>77574917Yeah I think this is the general consensus at this point. Nothing about these compounds directly cause you to lose muscle. It's just the "crash diet" that leads to muscle wasting. If you follow a deliberate, moderately high protein diet and get a reasonable amount of activity, you will probably retain muscle. One funny theory that may contribute though is that severely obese people may have quite a bit of "extra" muscle on their frame to help move the 100+ lbs of extra fat, so when they slim down their bodies decide that they actually don't need that extra muscle anymore.
>>77572056Don't worry about carbs bro. The reta will take care of it. Eat at will. You'll need them. Don't get ketoacidosis by being a faggot. Drop the energy drinks too. Drink water, as much as you possibly can.
>>77543540I'm on 15 mounjaro it's been about 7 months+ and I started at 580 and can now get off the floor under my own power if I fall and I can get my feet up on to the bed to put my sockies and shoes on under my own power.
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>>77574910wow great counter argumentkill yourself niggerfaggot :3
>>77543349my sleep apnea has pretty much disappeared i have been breathing clear for the last 2 monthsI think the hgh has also helped in burning visceral fatits funny how 80% of all my health problems disappeared when i stopped being fat
>>77575771Good shit. Mine effectively disappeared too - I was at 85 events per hour roughly, now I'm lucky to get 5.
