Dudes how the fuck is that possible. 2500 base maintenance + warehouse work + lifting = 1500. Then another 800 for the surplus Am I underestimating warehouse calories?? My steps say 900 cal from walking alone but idk how many calories is 10 hours of throwing boxes and unloading trailers?Im gaining muscle and looking better because im on steroids, but i want my bf% to go up so i know im getting the most of the blastDo I gotta find another job? I’m nauseous eating all day
>>77552696So you’re base maintenance I assume you mean BMR? Is 2500? So you’re over 300 lbs - 335 lbs at 5’9 or taller? If true then yeah you should be consuming 4.5k cals to upkeep a ‘highly active’ category of activity and you’d only need 300 -500 cals to gain pack on weight, I’d have thought at that size though you shouldn’t have a problem stomach wise eating this much. If you’d like an actual measurement put in your height weight age and sex and I’ll tell you
>>77552696Taking everything at face value here. 4800kcal is a lot. Perhaps you are counting kcal inaccurately? In anycase.>how the fuck is that possible.I think if you are big, like well over 100kg, doing 10hrs manual labour daily, maybe 4x intense bodybuilding sessions per week, and on gear, then this does seem possible. It's not for me to say if it's likely. I'm not on gear. I'm not that big. I have a wfh job.>Am I underestimating warehouse calories??I think at some point yeah the maths has gone wrong, but that's ok, it's only really an estimate to get you started. If you are trying to lose, gain, or maintain weight the key metric is your actual weight loss/gain/maintain, everything else follows from that. >Do I gotta find another job?It's probably a case of eating more or moving less. Lets say you miscalculated some stuff..now what? Probably eat more or move less. One final factor is the thermic effect of food. Do you find yourself getting hot? I assume you are eating a lot of protein, which has a higher thermic effect. Apparently (i'm not actually a scientist) TEF is about 10% of energy expenditure. So, if you want to lose weight, banking on TEF by eating more protein is probably negligible. But when you get to large amounts of foods, it adds up. Lets take your maths.>2500 base maintance>work and lifting 1500>800 surplus>processing/digesting food = 480that's quite a bit. a surplus of 480 is 1lbs a week.
>>77552696Yeah I can only wonder how much you weigh. I am natty and my last bulk I was eating 4100 calories a day and gaining 0.4-0.6lb/wk, so obviously smaller TDEE than yours but still high. I lift 5 days a week and get ~20k steps daily. Your job alone would constitute you being high NEAT but outside of that are you typically just always moving? leg bouncing, pacing, etc? Really all you can do is eat more or reduce activity, you already knew that. TEF could be interesting to consider though, how much of your diet is easy to digest carbs like rice or otherwise vs complex carbs like oats? Some foods burn a lot more calories simply during digestion. The other thing you could do to increase calories would be to up your fats assuming you are eating a more standard high carb bodybuilding diet to begin with, as you know fats a 9 calories per gram, it’s pretty easy to add 100g of peanut butter to a shake and drink an extra 600 calories, albeit from fats.
>>77552696You need to tell us your weight and possibly your diet. You could be a retarded troll or just a retard in general, we need to know these other things
>I want my bf% to go up
>>77552696Honestly just learn to cook and eat insanely big meals or you go catabolic in lile 1 or 2hrs no matter what.>warehouse job Roiding before access to hgh, knowledge of how to do so safely and without dick nipples good luck you are just getting to below your natty potential faster, with insane permanent injury risk, and for as long as you can afford it or do so without going to the hospital. If you haven't been lifting for a while before and got to see legitimately impressive results(this is possible for anyone) then your body has a higher risk of depending on it earlier and fucking your health worse than an alcoholic with shaking hands.
>>77552696If you knew anything about anything and were old enough you'd know roiding is gay. Sure you can pack on more muscle than natty but the muscle is never mature. You have to train to keep the size(or strength) because your test dips and the obvious ensues, you can't drink or do a lot of drugs even aspirin, you can't get fat or you get extremely high estrogen. Lift hard and bulk for 5yrs and revisit the topic.
