The fact that it's 2026 and there's more confusion and misinformation by an order of magnitude more than actual concrete, actionable information about fitness and health is absolutely ridiculous.Every prominent source of nutrition information gives different advice. Every influencer is shilling a different diet. Every doctor recommends different medications and lifestyles. And every single thread on this board is an argument, even about the most mundane of things, including water intake and sleep. It's honestly grim beyond belief.
>>77554758>pick up heavy stuff>put it down>repeat 2 to 6 times per week>reduce junk food>increase whole foods>eat a balanced diet>???
>>77554775>literally doesn't address the point of the post at all
>>77554758>Every prominent source of nutrition information gives different advicejust eat according to your tdee, hit 1.5-2g of protein depending on what youre doing, have fiber, fill the rest with common sense bullshit. lol>Every doctor recommends different medications and lifestylesevery doctor literally reccomends the same fundamentals, unless they are some online grifter hyperfocusing on a specific hormone or vitamin to sell you some supplement.>And every single thread on this board is an argument, even about the most mundane of things, including water intake and sleep. It's honestly grim beyond belief.no its notjust cut the information overload and be reasonable anon lol
>>77554781g of protein/kg
>>77554758It's kind of the fault of phones allowing anyone on the internet, because now you just have a hoard of idiots that will unironically call empirical evidence "gay" with flimsy justifications like how it might change as new evidence appears. Instead, they find the practice of howling at the moon (actual thread we had here) more reliable.There's plenty of solid evidence like the protein range calculated from hundreds of studies, or counting volume via fractional sets and the curve of "gains" they provide. It's just that morons will be continue to be morons since if everyone was smart, we'd have world peace.
>>77554758I've seen enough debates in which experts use science to back up completely opposing claims, and human nutrition science is absurd in this regard; like look up how it is actually researched and there's no way you can draw any kind of conclusive result from itEven if it's the most reliable way for humanity to have commond grounds to stand on, every year that goes by I'm more convinced that the current state of academia is an absolutely fucked up and broken industry, when it's not sponsored by a corporation with clear conflicts of interest it just goes on vibes, and the results can be absolutely skewed to favor whatever hypothesis you first tried to prove I feel at this point it's a matter of trial and error to see what works for you more or less and stay away from shit that has actually been proven to be harmful to you like alcohol and smoking
>>77554884>I feel at this point it's a matter of trial and error to see what works for you more or less and stay away from shit that has actually been proven to be harmful to you like alcohol and smokingWell said
this is why you stick to a simple diet, the classic chicken rice broccoli just fucking works, eggs red meat and other green vegetables work just fine too>waterdrink when thirsty>sleep8 hours and if you can afford it 9 hours is optimal if you lift heavy
>>77555081I do full-stack dietary chemoproteomics with reverse network pharmacology on hundreds of protein targets instead and learned you should really eat all kinds of bizarre traditional medicines nobody ever heard of.
>>77554758To be honest we COULD figure out but there are two main problems with science (especially the softer human sciences):- "Ethics" (noooo we can't starve people noooo)- Money (((obviously)))For example physics is doing well (of course every field has drama, but it settles definitively with experiment), just lacking money and engineering capability at the moment
>>77554781>>77554884>>77555081>1.5-2g of protein >proven to be harmful to you like alcohol and smoking >classic chicken rice broccoli Yet these are some of the tropes of nutrition advice op's post referred to.If you're interested in a long and healthy life, high protein diets just don't do it. Caloric restriction is invariably shown to be most effective, often consisting of high carb, mid-low fat, low protein macro breakdown.Alcohol is also invariably shown to correlate with low all-cause mortality and may be an essential element of the highly regarded mediterranean diet.No dietician or anyone with nutrition expertise recommends a continuous diet of chicken, rice and broccoli outside of very limited and perhaps retarded circles like bodybuilding, gymbros and /fit/.
>>77555262>Calorie restriction extends lifespan more than high protein dietsOh not this meme nonsense again. Did you know that sitting in bed all day also extends lifespan? You have to strike a balance between actually doing shit and merely extending your waking hours as much as possible.
>>77555271>Did you know that sitting in bed all day also extends lifespan?Except that it actually doesn't.Walking certainly does though, moving silly bits of metal up and down doesn't, however.
>>77554758training, especially bodybuilding, is pretty much solved. lift weights, increase load, and eat in a caloric surplus for years on end. endurance sports are similar except you're not supposed to be fat and measuring training volume is slightly more complex. coincidentally, even at both ends up the spectrum (and all sports), the diets end up being the same. high protein and high carbohydrates to fuel and recover from proper training.it's when you get to "gen pop" or "balanced" health and fitness that everything gets fucked up and you get retarded grifters like huberman, attia, rhonda patrick suddenly shilling how you NEED to do sauna/direct sunlight/plyometrics/grip strength/4x4s, etc that it all falls apart. the truth is all of this shit is extremely secondary and unimportant compared to actual diet and exercise.
>>77555262>>77555271Calorie restriction has a massive human lifespan evidence problem: consistent results showing underweight people, especially vegans who lose weight in every damn last clinical trial, ACK disproportionately in old age.It might work fine in small animal models and cell models, but old humans die a lot from falling over and being too skinny helps kill them, full stop.>t. frame-mogger using calorie restriction mimetics
>>77555279>Except that it actually doesn't.It does.>>77555289Correlational studies aren't causative. Also fuck off clankerfag.
>>77554884>I feel at this point it's a matter of trial and error to see what works for youYea, that's called science bro.
>>77555090Not this schizobabble again
>>77555339>plaese maek CICO correc n' diet vry shrimple so only micro n' makro kinda count but really kalory only importntNah bro, diet is really very complex, involving thousands of protein network interactions; none of the influencers even remotely cover advanced proteomics.
>>77555457NTA but fuck off clankerfagAnd post body if you're so good at this
>>77555457Post body to show your clearly superior results from your occult knowledge of advanced proteomics
