I came home from my first-ever HEMA class, with a sore ass-no,not because it is very gay (you cannot deny that), though I did think the instr-aNYWAY, no,where was I going with that.. well the stance, see, you gotta bend ya knees,really squat down on it as if twerkin and popping on some di-anYYWAYS,it felt really great holding the longsword with both of my hands, it reminded me of ANYWAYi love thrusting and handling long objec ANYWAYSFUCKHEMA IS PRETTY COOL I GUESS.
You had the homosexual sex?
>>77571969a battle of wills domination and physical strength is not gay the greeks did it all the time and they built civilization and evil can only destroy CHECK MATE FAGGOT.
>>77571966The problem with HEMA is that it can't decide whether it wants to be a living history reenactment for fat nerds, or an athletic competition for people that couldn't make the fencing team and want a bit more contact.
>>77571996if you yourself decide to make it both, you can both dominate the whole thing and,be hated by everyone who's there to take it easy,dab on the casuals, roll with the freaks,it's that easy b
HEMA vs. Kali vs. FencingWhich is the best for knife defense?
>>77571996>>77572004>>77572015Gays
>>77572015HIIT
>>77571966The lack of realism kills it for me, a true historically accurate sword fight would be between 2 heavily armored combatants. Anything else was a cake walk slaughtering peasants.
>>77572025The instructor actually said so, it'd be penetration with spears and halberds and such. However, for personaly defence, I don't see you hangin' a 6 foot polearm swangin from ya hip ya dig?
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>>77572029They had these flip out swords popular, also bucklers are interesting as this is probably their application. I wonder what other non meme weapons there are like even one of those reverse curved swords used by vlad the impaler. Or one of those fancy crossguards comes to mind especially when less armored. But irl it would be so infinitely hard to face more than one opponent with a spear of any sort seeing as how effective the phalanx and pikes were. Swords or blades were much more 1v1 oriented and heavy.
>>77572029I WANT TO SEE PENETRATION!
>>77572069>flip out swordsThe Spanish had a cool solution for it called the Navaja. Short video on it: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Z39_LlkWXq8>>77572076you can probably find a lawless corner of the world and go become a warlord and then enforce homosexual activity (depending on what kind of penetration you want but this way you get both spears and shafts)
>>77571996>massive drama in the hema community because fights are getting won by one guy double legging the other guy at the first sword clashAs if that didn't happen in real life
>>77572015Unironically boxing, especially if you drill it sometimes>gives you ability to sense distance and opponent's motion>quick footwork to make distance when he comes at you, angle off if he charges>checking and parrying opponent's hands>you can feint to keep him back without committingAnd in irl you can be talking to the guy, or backing off, while you do this, in hopes that he decides not to bother stabbing you after all
>>77572298I'm going to argue for the heck of it - why not kickboxing then?
I have some cold steel polypropylene training swords that I'll whip around the home gym between sets. Also a tacticool spear for shadow-stabbing, just fun gay stuff while resting. If you're not training for melee gains, what are you even doing?
>>77571966Write properly if you want a bump.>>77571996When I went it was full of fat nerds and troons.
>>77572506hippety hoppetyi might be a bit faggotybut you're unnecessarily grumpy
>>77572025Oh yeah especially with armor where strength matters since it WILL get to a grapple. I'm over here who's been bulking there's 0 chance someone is surviving me squaring up and hitting them especially in the head while they try to feel me up and get under me or some gay shit made for weaklings. In fact I would fight anyone for 1000 dollars since there's a 99.9% chance they couldn't do a thing and I will join your discord so you can't call me a pussy.
>>77572430Well only because hands is 100% of what you do in boxing, but only ~40% of what you do in kickboxingIn (dutch) kickboxing, there's less emphasis on fighting on the outside with your feet than there can be in amateur boxing, and sometimes there's an emphasis on "high guard to block his combo then take your turn" which isn't what you want to be doing if he's holding a knife obviously. But this doesn't really matter, like in real life it's not as simple as this. You can kickbox on the outside if you want to for example (and point kickboxing rules encourage it). And I have on my PC a webm of a security guard push kicking a guy with a knife to the floor then beating him up, which is something you dont get if you just box (except you dont really need training to push kick someone... unless you do... which you might)Internet discussions about martial arts are too simplistic to take seriouslyBut if you have me one year to train you to survive a knife fight, I'd have you boxing, drilling push kicks, wrestling with an emphasis on two on ones, playing guard, and we'd be drilling and sparring with a rubber knife regularly. And wearing different actual clothes that you might be wearing when you get into the fight, and practicing wrapping your jacket around your arm and fighting with that
>>77571984>is not gay the greeks did itkek ok anon
>>77572015>Which is the best for knife defense?Going to an actual knife defense class (not the meme PSA ones ex-military ran programmes)
>>77571966i went to my local HEMA and it was genuinely full of lesbians and male redditfags, one of the instructors kept blatantly hitting on a suspected tranny and even asked what their preferred pronouns wereoverall very gay experience/10
>>77571966I've noticed the HEMA community is full of autistic beta numales. Not to say they aren't skilled or dangerous, some of them are even very fit. I just mean they're also second only to BJJ in being weird, leftist simpy M'LADY fedora tipping types. Overwhelmingly onions. It's seriously weird.
i did hema for like 4 months. it was a nice group of people at first, but i was ignoring the obvious signs that most of them were super super autistic and not in the funny or good way. the worst was the extremely cringy kid who thought of himself as the alpha male of the group. we would go to hooters after the sessions and they would talk about obscure dnd facts at alarmingly loud volume. they tried to force me into coming to their larp weekend, i mean literally force me, and they were like screaming anime lines while running into the fray. i have respect for the sport, a lot even its a very ocol sport, but america is just shit as usual and the only hema gyms youll find not full of disgusting subhuman clowns are in europe. its sad but true.
>>77571996contemporary olympic style fencing is completely fucked; the rules as is just incentivize retard charging with no defense; it may as well be competitive pin the the tail on the donkey the west needs to look at how they do kendo because at least that shit still somewhat resembles a martial sport the only ones who still do it right in Europe are some preppy austrian schools who still go at it with big ass sabres
>>77572025>, a true historically accurate sword fight would be between 2 heavily armored combatants. Yeah,nah
>>77573415>>77573507>>77573516These are my people I do not mind I am diagnosed with autism
>>77573408I think in pretty much every documentary and video I've watched on this since childhood, the consensus is that "you _will_ get sliced" no matter what you do if the opponent is remotely capable. I'd personally count on running, but if not possible, as you say push kicks (teep) and hope for the best.
>>77573711Well it's not like it's magic, the knife has to touch you to hurt you, if you don't get touched you don't get hurt. And you can train it like anything else. Of course shit happens, the best boxer in the world, whose entire job is to hit and not get hit, still gets hit, but stillPeople (not you) who say "just run lmao" are being reductionist, it's not that simple and you probably won't just run away, for any of a few reasonsI note that we're talking about duelling scenarios here - irl lots of stabbings happen before the victim even knows the attacker has a knife and is stabbing him, so you're just fucked
>>77572015A gun
I have a samurai sword and swing it around my apartment regulary
>>77573931guns aren't very /fit/ are they? his gun fu is pretty good though.
>>77573939Getting killed isn't very /fit/ either. Thats why gun > anything else
>>77572442>>77573934it makes me happy thinking you two could possibly meet one day if we only just believe
Longsword is just too gay. Im gldoing arming sword with the boys, though
>>77575402it's good to have the other hand available for other poking opportunities hehe
>>77575411Truly. Once i get these guys in decent form with the single sword, im gonna add in buckler, shield, cloak, dagger, double sword, hell even rubber band pistol for pirate time
>>77575649buckler and rapier looks very cool. You can hide a rapier inside of a walking staff and then maybe modify a buckler to be used as a hat somehow. If you are old and grey you get away with it.
>>77571966I dont feel like spending money on all the gear and membership.
>>77575649I think about bashing someone in the face with a buckler constantly.
>>77575761i joied the hema class because it was either that or this
>>77575664>You can hide a rapier in a walking staffYou can also a rapier in a rapier
i do suburi a few days a week, really pumps up my shoulders and my abs for whatever reason. Staffs are also really the bare minimum you should be training with
>>77575810I was looking at a staff training video earlier, it really appeals to me, though I don't know if I can find proper wood for it where I am, and I don't want to shell out a lot of money to have one delivered. Something for the future for sure. I guess abs because of stabilization? Same as when I do OHP for example.Here is the video if interested:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygj1SO2LwzQ
>>77575817i use an aluminum pipe, stick very good stick come from ground everywhere
>>77575817Nice. Looks like his light one is a broom or mop stick. Here's my singlesword youtube sensei https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0oEJpWo-XJNHFjeYJdCwcwdQmUp_A6sT&si=rcGaWtlEJ_nvNnQ_
I have been doing HEMA for two year, I have a feder and a rapier. I only think of HEMA as mere amusement and nothing serious
>>77576037Can you remember how long it took you to get the basics of the feder movements down? My stance and movement is okay (from boxing I guess), and my first practice had me doing okay, but I somewhat struggled with alignment doing the guards, and keeping track of positions. Plus the coordination of tilting, pushing forward, then stepping, when hitting a target.
>>77573950It will truly be the showdown of the century.
>>77571966I macemaxx. Edged weapons are useless against undead.
>>77577148kettlebell propaganda
>>77575794that would be the rapiest then
saars why are you not redeeming the whip sword?
>>77573414>ex-militaryLol. Those dudes are scamming you too. Idk why people think there’s some special hand to hand knowledge in the military, there’s not. You know what they do in the military if a guy has a knife? They shoot him because in a combat zone you are armed 100% of the time. >what if he pops out from around a corner and grabs youThen your buddy shoots him. If you are in a prolonged hand to hand fight alone then things have become FUBAR. What >>77572298 says is correct. Just learn to box. Learn to wrestle too so you can stay standing.
>>77578151Honestly if you can master that shit without killing yourself and everyone around you.. against unarmored opponents, what can you even do? Close range quick but you will get hit/whipped regardless right. If you're the whipguy have a knife or something I guess?
>>77578743I saw the "demonstration" video on wikipedia. Doubt it's really a weapon outside martial arts. I feel like I could just walk right through it wearing winter clothes, but I dunno.
