>17% - be invisible to women>12% - ten percent of women on the street look at me>8% - almost all women look at meWhat the fuck is going on here?
>>77575572>5% I am now being actively hunted. I have boarded up my windows and barricaded the doors>1% they are clawing at the walls>0% THEY'RE HERE
>>77575572>living inside the frame of what women think
>what a subhuman *goes on with her day*>wow that dude looks sick does he have AIDS>Wtf i thought Auschwitz closed 80 years
>>77575585>-1000% I have absorbed all of the lean bodymass from the women, they have congealed into a viscous blob of fat. Communication is now difficult, but I believe I have lost my virginity.
>>77575572Attractiveness is a scale. Being slightly attractive might get you a few mires, but being conventionally attractive will make you a model. Be extremely attractive and youre a celebrity. Its because women are a hivemind. The more women that are attracted to you, the more women will see that other women are attracted to you and will then be attracted to you as a result.
Less than 12% and your face is starting to take a hit unless you're younger than 25
>>77575586>>77575587the fatsos have arrived
>>77575585
>>77575695>being conventionally attractive will make you a modelThis is absolutely not true if you live somewhere like london. In fact, it will work against you because your manliness makes the foids seethe.For editorial work, runway shows, etc they choose quirky, unconventional and weird features like dysgenic mutts with frizzy hair and big ears, and they have done for 20+ years now.t. ex-model
>>77575572The last group were wondering whether or not to call an ambulance.
>>77575572That breakfast looks pretty fucking good ngl
>>77575572>Autistic people pretend To have any inclination on what the opposite sex finds attractive Thread number 5642
I think OP does have a point in that the way people, women included, spend their attention is marginal. That is to say, beyond a certain cutoff (familial/social distance, career usefulness, attractiveness) you will simply not get any attention at all.This is pretty normal, thoughever.
>>77575572You must be ugly as fuck because women do that to me even at 20% bodyfat
>have to bulk up to get shredded>don't want to get fat>don't want to get a bodyfat % that is too high>stuck in some type of lean bulking/half bulking state where I'm trying to gain muscles without putting on too much fatI fucking hate this shit so much, I could have gotten way bigger if I just stopped caring about bodyfat percentage but I can't stop thinking about it. I just need to make a decision between bulking up and getting more muscles and having a relatively low bodyfat percentage, it's impossible to do both at the same time but I can't seem to actually decide what I want to do.
>>77575767>fact, it will work against you because your manliness makes the foids seethe.Yeah man you're so handsome and masculine it makes women angry kek
>>77576025For me it's the opposite>get down to like 15-18% bodyfat>10-12% would be nice>but I just had a really good workout, gonna eat a little over surplus to let the muscles grow>do that every workout>just constantly lean bulking and recomping constantly and never making the final push to lose that last 10 or so pounds
>>77576066Have you ever met a british foid?
>>77576066>Yeah man you're so handsome and masculine it makes women angry kekNTA, but yes, I have seen it happen. When you're good looking women will want to flirt with you. And if you don't IMMEDIATELY start showing interest back, they will flip a switch in the span of like 30 seconds and decide they fucking hate you and even if you later try to be nice to them they will never get over the initial subtle rejection.And I'm not even talking like being rude to them, I mean like, being friendly, smiling, making small talk, but not making the sexy eyes back and returning the flirts.
>>77576327Yeah man you're so irresistible and handsome that women want to ruin your life for not fucking them, you're just that much of a desirable hunk
>>77575572>>be invisible to womensounds like heaven
>>77575585kek
how does greg look like an actual chad compared to clavicular? clav looks like a mockery of this guy
>>77575572I never cut this hard before and every single percennt of body fat I remove, my face gets more angular Couple that with my tazarotene gel, peak hair maintenance and a slight tan I am absolutely peaking right now and notice the same thing
>>77576573It's because most people are fat, so even if your skull isn't perfectly proportioned, just being able to see your cheekbones and jawline makes you look a lot better than some puffy blob.Being lean is a superpower these days. Moreso than big muscles even because roids are so prevalent.
lost 20 pounds down to 190. unfortunately probably need to get to 170-175. cutting is such a drag
lean is law. being lean is the most important thing you can do for yourself
>>77576025Look at the actual studies. You don't need to eat more to build muscle, you just need to lift to failure and eat enough protein. Then assuming you have enough vitamin D, magnesium, zinc it will just work
>>77576543Because Greg has better genetics and also hasn't been pumping roids
>>77576943Can you cite those studies?
>>77576964I noticed it
>>77575572Lean is law. You could assume that men at lower body fat percentages display more sexually dimorphic traits. That could be a theory.
>>77575585klok
>>77577015There aren't any studies, got it
>>77577042>Could>Could
>>77575572Greg looks hansum here like an dating e sim character>G-gregu-sama, you haven't touched your food why are you looking at me like that?
>>77577107How about you use google retard Effect of Small and Large Energy Surpluses on Strength, Muscle, and Skinfold Thickness in Resistance-Trained Individuals: A Parallel Groups Design - PMC https://share.google/3816054yWC8DpzE1k
>>77576327I've witnessed this weird and sudden switch in their behavior too but I never connected it to some imaginary rejection. But then again I'm a bit oblivious. For example, a woman complaining she looks fat saying her ass has gotten fat (it wasn't). Is this a cue to say something back or?
>>77575586Unironically this.So as long as you care about female opinion, you simply will never make it.
>>77577414It would be super great if you could cite the portions of this text that allowed you to come to the conclusion that you did. However, you can't do that because you literally just googled this study right now and you hold your belief based on inherent methodology and mechanistic speculation rather than anything you've actually read.
>>77577414>Random study that you just looked up has a sample size of 21 people, and literally everyone was in a surplus, meaning it doesn't back up your point.
When I was sub 12% it was night and day compared to now at 15%. Lean is truly law
>>77576327In defense of this behavior, women are socialized to believe that making the first move in any way is extremely desperate and shameful and whorish, so if it doesn’t work there are like ten layers of self-loathing stacked on top of the normal rejection feeling that you’d get as a man. It’s not coming from nowhere.
>>77575572This hasn't been my experience at all. Without exception every woman I have spoken to or fucked has spoken about how they prefer a bit of fat on a man as opposed to the cut look. I have been both a fatass and skinny and funnily enough the happy middle ground of a bit of fat plus muscle is what women respond best to. The autistic mind cannot comprehend that women don't automatically come to you when you reach a certain body fat percentage. There are so many other factors at play.
Redpill me on kinobody.Honestly his low volume high intensity on accessories now sound appealing.
>>77577418She is trying to draw attention to her ass so you look at it and compliment her figure. Women are evil and deceptive though and will never just say "Please compliment my anal periphery, I want validation and sexual gratification", and play these dumb games instead.
>>77575572They stare because you're a starving ghoul
>>77576710Most foids care about size, big everything. If you're tall if course you can get away with being lean but most foids would still choose a tall framemogger
>>77576025You'll stop caring about impressing foids the older you get
>>77575572I've seen other people say this but I got way more women looking at me when I was at my biggest and fattest (not actually fat, BMI of like 26 idk bf%) than when I was skeletal.
>>77575572I have noticed the right side of everyone’s face has a deeper chud line than the left side.I cannot stop seeing it.Some have chud lines on both sides.Very few have no chud lines at all.I think it might be from sunlight smoothing out the left side of the face while driving?I don’t know. Maybe it’s a phenotype.This asymmetry seems common.It could be a dental procedure everyone has had done but no one knew it would have an unintended effect.Hard to say.
>>77575586We live in a gynocracy, asshole.Their opinions are the ONLY opinions.
>>77576327Always play the aloof card.>eh what?>huh?>oh ya haha so true!>who are you again?? Oh right I forgot haha
>>77575572Bodyfat percentage alone doesn't say much. If you have low bf but a bad extracellular matrix it will look like the skin hangs and melts
>>77575585lul
>>77578823>bad extracellular matrixNo such thing, your face is just recessed
>>77575586Being attractive is literally all that matters if you want to achieve anything in life tho. So yeah you have to live inside that frame. Embrace it and ascend or die a loser cuck
>>77577486>>77577491Learn to read, retards.
>>77576066nah he's not wrongnot a chad or anything but i was a generic non-fat white guy in a lib arts program at a school with a lot of minorities/they thems and some of the professors were definitely extra dismissive towards me
>>77576327This. Anon knows. Being attractive is a blessing and a curse.
>>77576025yeah trust me if you're this neurotic about it while lean you'd hate actually getting fat and looking like you don't train even more
>>77575572I'm guessing no body will be posted at any point
>>77579158>literally proves the point of the people he's calling retards
>>77579194Feel free to break the trend, buddy. You won't though
>>77576943>Then assuming you have enough vitamin D, magnesium, zinc it will just workYou really had to throw some more random bullshit in there didnt you haha
>>77579164>not a chad or anythingYeah we know. You're ugly. That's why they were dismissive
>>77579205Wrong retard. Read again
>>77580387You: You dont need to eat more to build muscleYour study: all participants in a calorie surplusSorry you are wrong and can't let it go
>>77578318I have a deeper chud line on the right side but I never drive or had any dental procedura. I think it's just chewing effect on muscle
>>77578828Ask some llm. It's why young people have plump faces. It's what sustains the skin even without the heavy support from the bone structure.
>>77580401They're not retard.There were 3 groups - maintenance, moderate (5%) and high (15%). Why are you so dumb?
>>77580573It's because you always lie on your right side in bed
