Previous >>77543349 What are you taking? How much are you injecting? What weight did you start at and how much have you lost? Questions & queries? >What is GLP-1? GLP-1 agonists are medications that help lower blood sugar levels and promote weight loss. They are available with a valid prescription (commonly known as Ozempic, Wegovy, Mounjaro/Zepbound, etc) or via the gray market in the form of peptides. >How do I get on GLP-1? For the legal brand-name products, you need to have a valid prescription, but it can be very expensive. If you want them as peptides, they are available via the gray market, which is a much riskier area for a siginifcantly better quantity and price. >How do I get into the gray market? Stairwaytogray's main website at www.stairwaytogray.com is the one and only place to start. There are many great guides covering all areas for new players to the scene. Several points to note: >Mods will ban you for positng direct links to gray market sources, so don't risk it >There is absolutely no such thing as GLP-3. It is a common ignorant and uninformed term spread by social media influencers. This includes GLP-2 (which is unrelated to weight loss and is for Crohn's Disease), GLP-4 and GLP-5. They're all false and uneducated terms >NEVER follow the advice of any social media influencer on any mainstream platform under any circumstances. This especially includes Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and YouTube. The consequences are disastrous and even fatal >The gray market is volatile and legally risky. Do your research, learn basic cryptocurrency and focus on your personal security and privacy, and never spend more than you are willing to lose As always, stay safe and be smart.
Know the difference between the agonists. This image and a simple Google search will prevent you from looking stupid in front of everyone. MAINSTREAM GLP-1 BRANDS Semaglutide >Ozempic, Wegovy, Rybelsus Tirzepatide >Zepbound, Mounjaro LESSER KNOWN GLP-1 BRANDS Liraglutide >Victoza, Saxenda Dulaglutide >Trulicity Exenatide >Byetta, Bydureon BCise Lixisenatide >Adlyxin Orforglipron >Foundayo Albiglutide >Tanzeum (cancelled by the manufacturer) UPCOMING GLP-1 AGONISTS Retatrutide >Still in the experimental/testing phase, highly proven results Mazdutide >Dual agonist Survodutide >Dual agonist Ecnoglutide >Single agonist "biased GLP-1" VRX-0075 >Quintuple (five) agonist NOT A GLP-1 AGONIST Cagrilintide >Amylin receptor Eloralintide >Amylin receptor Petrelintide >Amylin receptor
And finally: >Ignore all non-GLP-1 substances...within reason (Cagrilintide, for example, is fine). /fraud/ exists for other substances>Filtering your peptides is optional but is recommended. It won't purge any potential endotoxins, but it'll clean up other particulates>No one cares if you don't like or need GLP-1 injections. Go have a sook in another thread if it irritates you so much>Do not engage with the DNPtranny. DNP is fine, being a total fuckwit about it is not>Go to /fph/ or /fraud/ if you feel like a morally superior faggot. We get that the world is becoming skinnier and you're losing your pathetic bullshit bullying powers as a result, but pick your fights elsewhere, as we don't give a shit about youTIRZISKING
>>77577060I need to titrate up, my cravings are back.
6mm or 8mm needles for gray stuff?
>>77577185both ok but better go 6. Pinch your skin slightly and pin. at 90 degrees easy.
>>775771858mm if you're still fat, 6mm if you're over halfway.
>>77577060Been on zepbound for about 5 months and I'm down 36lbs. I started on 2.5mg and titrated up to 7.5 in the time since. The only huge downside is diarrhea, and I've mostly learned to live with that by now.
>>77577808As fucked as this sounds, I like it when I have diarrhea. I'm at goal weight and whenever I put on water weight or regular fluctuating weight, I get happy when I shit it back out quicker, as Reta keeps everything in me for days at a time.
>>77577060Test
>>77577832Dude Get some ginger root and make tea you retard you don't have to have diarrhea Ginger tea helps with gastric emptying and tastes good and keeps you hydrated
>>77577857Test successful
>>77577886It was a close one I went off the hinges on another board, but it wasn't mean spirited just immensely human. I'm here with you still don't worry
>>77577808sounds like it could be a diet issue. what do you normally eat?
>>77577988Lots of greasy bullshit.>>77577860I drink peach tea with ginger and turmeric several nights a week to help with gout. It makes me piss like a racehorse but kills the swelling faster than anything else.
It's Tirzday!
>>77578026I assume you didn't have diarrhea before tirz, so it's possible it's interacting with your diet in a bad way. I recommend not leaving everything up to the GLP-1 and changing your diet, even a little. More whole foods, more veggies in general. I learned how to make chicken breasts that don't suck from Youtube and it's been a game changer for me. Also, take a fiber supplement like psyllium. Psyllium in particular helps with both constipation and diarrhea.
>>77578275I'll always think of StarCraft whenever I read the words Psyllium Husk.
>>77578134I'm about to go up to 7.5mg and reduce Reta to nothing (due to doing three months of Tesamorelin for visceral fat).
No better than junkies btw
(denial)77578429>>77577063
>>77578429not only that. just like roiders, these dudes are going to face disastrous consequences both short term and long term. an added bonus is that their craving will come right back once they stop taking it
>>77577060Been on Zepbound for about a month now and I'm down 17 pounds with proper exercise and calorie tracking. The food noise being gone has made my life so much easier. Is this what skinny people feel like?
This is a fitness board. Injecting yourself with chemicals isn't fitness, so this thread doesn't belong here. (Yes, roid threads don't belong here, either.)
(denial)77578490(denial)77578523>>77577063
>>77578505It's a good life brother, if the tools are there, then use them I say.7 people at work are on it too (thanks to me supplying them from the gray market kek), the effect on health, morale, fitness, and general well-being has never been this high before.
>>77578523Exercise leads to fitnessLosing weight leads to fitness
>>77578558By your (incredibly stupid) rationale, bulemia is fitness.
>>77578275Thanks, but I know the issue for me is that I'm still overeating. My diet has changed a lot over the past few months. I don't eat nearly as many chips and other snacks as before, and I've started eating a more protein-heavy breakfast as advised by my doctor. I should have mentioned that I also deal with drowsiness and fatigue. Protein helps a lot but I've also been downing electrolyte drinks to keep my ass awake, since apparently terpz uses up a shitload of electrolytes to do its thing.
>>77578574bulemia is a mental health disorder, and negatively affects the body. Imagine thinking that was a good comeback and argument.
>>77578614you are injecting yourself with chemicals which negatively affects the body. but that's okay because... now you can eat less? you know who also follows the exact same program and figured this out a couple decades ago? meth users
>>77578644And how does it negatively affect the body?
Supposedly Retatrutide will be available from the pharmacy in Q4 of 2027, and if it's anything like I'd expect with pricing, I think it'll be more expensive than Mounjaro/Zepbound. It'll just keep everyone on the gray market.
>>77577061>VRX-0075>Quintuple agonistFucking hell, that's insanity.
>>77578737Thank fuck I'm on the gray, it's been a godsend with price and effects. No need for Tesa and Ipa with Reta either.
>>77578490>disastrous consequences both short term and long termsuch as..?
>>77579516its literally just reta + cagri
>>77579694Yeah pretty much, still OP as all fuck.I have both here, I'm kind of tempted to try for a week to see how potent the combo is.
>>77578644>abloo bloo bloo muh chemicalsYou ingest like a million different unique chemical compounds just by eating some food. Some peptide metabolites aren't going to do anything harmful to the human body unless they are specifically designed to produce negative biological interactions like extremely complex insect venom.
>>77577060I've been using 4mg Reta with 150mg of BAM15 per day, seems to be working well.
>>77579853What's BAM15?
>>77579873It's a small molecule compound like DNP but without the danger of death by overheating. Causes mitochondria to leak their membrane potential of stored energy so they metabolize blood sugar at a greater rate. Not sure on the overall efficacy of energy burn relative to reta but I haven't seen any complaints by people who used it.
>>77579887Thanks for that.Sounds interesting, I'll have a look.
I was at least pre-diabetic, peeing the same amount of times I drank water, thirsty all the time. now I'm holding water normally, peeing just a few times. probably cured of fucking diabetes. semaglutide saved my life.
>>77579918Which Sema? Ozempic, Wegoyy, or gray market?
>>77579944it's a tablet called rybelsus in my country, comes with 3, 7 or 14 mg, 30 tablets per package. its awesome, I cant handle needles.
>>77580016EU?
tirzday
>>77580024brazil. about 100 dollars per package because the government helps. God bless socialism.
Andy APS banned from STG. What seller do you guise use?
>>77580074Kek rekt, STG has no mercy. Fuck around and find out.Not allowed to list vendors, check the OP.
>>77580075You're not going to get banned from saying amy, tracy, etc
>>77577060My dad got ozempic before he died because he was giga fat and diabetic. He died last year. Mom kept all his meds and like 5 boxes of ozempic in the fridge.>ff to last nightMy fat sister had mom inject her gut with it because she doesnt want to be fat and doesn't want to put in work. She is>5'8">~260lbs>drinks canned alcohol often>smokes weed often>eats junk food almost exclusively >has gastroparesis>has had stomach ulcers>doesn't take any vitamins>doesnt exerciseHow bad is this going to go?
>>77580079Yeah those names are fine, just don't want jannies on a TRIPLE SALARY to get reactive.
>>77580081Sorry about your Dad :(It'll only help with diabetes if she has that. Despite the benefits, she still needs to diet and exercise to maximize the effects.What's the expiry date on the Ozempic boxes?
>>77580108Shiiiiit I'd have to check the date, she's not diabetic to my knowledge but thinks the jab will solve everything. Side note, I thought you inject on the thigh?Don't worry about dad, we didnt have even a slightly good relationship
>>77580128As long as Ozempic is unopened (as in not used) it has 24 months for the manufacturers expiry date. It should be on the box.You can inject in the thigh or upper arm, but the best place is in the belly fat on your sides, roughly 15cm away from the bellybutton.>magicShe has to exercise (if even just cardio) and eat properly for it to work extremely effectively. If she can cut away the alcohol and weed, she'll become Mrs Skellington in no time.
>>77580081She will become healthier but its not going to fix the core issues that she has. She wont become a model or skeleton either
Started 2mg Reta yesterday, plan to follow the trials to a T. I have like 100 lbs to lose. Couldn’t eat a fuckin thing. Feels good man
>>77580449Baste
tirz X reta is GOAT. excited for my new stack.
>>77580108>>77580140Checked, its expires 09/27 so I guess its still good but weirdly 2 boxes are open. For some reason I thought you did the injection outer thigh but I guess bellyfat makes a lot of sense too.>>77580181>>77580140I really don't see her becoming healthier if I'm being honest with you, there's no way she's going to cut out the weed or the alcohol. The alcohol still has a lot of calories because she gets a lot of those canned mixed drinks like Clubtails and what not that are easily 250, maybe 300 calories per can at best. She only eats junk food and takeout, and works in a chain coffee shop that gives her a full paperbag of donuts every night, so even if she cuts the junk food down significantly and is in a caloric deficit... She's not going to be getting any actual nutrition. She'll be getting less than she's already getting and is definitely going to get that nasty ghoul face of malnutrition. What's shocking is we had that conversation before already, where I said the reason all these celebrities look like shit after they get the jab is because they essentially just injected themselves with anorexia and forgot the most successful anorexics take a living shit ton of vitamins and stack supplements to avoid malnutrition. Sister doesn't even brush her teeth. Let alone take vitamins or a natural dietary fat.
>>77580081hi i'm f who is about same height, went from 270lbs to 163lbs, about 33lbs was lost from tirz rest natural and ur absolutely right, tell her if she really wants it she has to work for it:tell ur sister to start with an aim of 10k steps per day, it's easier to hit if she counters in walks to her supermarket and back to buy groceries (not sure how walkable your city is since i'm a brit bong)i don't do alcohol or smoke weed, she obviously needs to quit thoseshe needs to quit junk food and cut her portions in half (she can save money for each meal too) tell her to get an air fryer and fry stuff if she needs it (I don't like goyslop but I love crispy fried stuff, and tell her to replace mayo by mixing low fat cream cheese with low fat cottage mayo with ranch seasoning in a blender)tell her she needs to completely cut out oil or avoid it heavily, just olive oil and a light usageshe needs to try volume eating so she doesn't binge on snacks - there are obviously snack alternatives that are low cal, but I stopped eventually and if she feeds herself enough she also willtry to get her to try out skipping breakfast - if she is open to it she can try OMAD too, this helped me even when i was not on tirzif she gets used to walking 10k steps then she may start being open to the gym, u can reassure her that no one will judge and teach her the basics and if she overcomes that fear and learns about it she can tryur sister sounds like a bum but i've learned from other friends that people who do drugs have emotional problems, so I hope she gets better and I hope she doesn't give up
>>77581130i meant low fat cottage cheese bloody fuck i''m retarded and this captcha is killing me
>>77580916LEGENDSTACK GODS REPORT IN
>>77580916>Tirz>Reta>GHK-CU>NAD+>SemaxExcept for the vendor BAC water, I'm thinking it's based time.
>>77581130Bro, I lost 70lbs (31.7kg) also actual female and I've told her all this. She's ignoring it. I lost it natural BECAUSE we're so predisposed to severe side effects (I have a very slow GI she has full on diagnosised Paralysis of the digestive tract episodes. Tbh i just dont totally understand how these drugs work since i immediately realized I could never use then without serious risk, but my understanding had been you have to really hone in on nutrition or you face actual malnutrition and issues
So my friend has been off Reta for 6 months now. I asked him what happened with the food noise returning and what changes he noticed. He told me:>The food noise returned after two weeks and was a bit strong at first, but nowhere near as full on as before starting>As a result of constant dieting and exercise, he's still eating well, but that's achieved without Reta. Still, he believes it's helped him mentally>His heart rate dropped back down to "normal" levels>He gained 5kg in total, but this was due to the shock of no more GLP-1, GIP and Glucagon, plus some gym>You absolutely must slowly wean off with lower doses over 2-3 months or you'll suffer cravings hardcoreHe did also tell me that those on single agonist injections suffer the worst return of food noise, as it's very strong. Tirz and Reta users, from others telling him, have it much easier to come off.
>>77581394Reporting in
>>77580449It's great, isn't it? Still never get cravings, and when I do eat a meal I fill up after about 1/4 of what I used to eat. No longer pre-diabetic, BP and cholesterol are normal again, and lost 10 lbs this month. Got another 60lbs left to drop before I'm down to my normal weight, which if I don't plateau too hard or get lazy with my workouts I feel should be reasonably achievable by the end of winter.
Did not realize there was a glp general when posting this in the monjourno thread:got prescribed wegovy without any prompting. Should i take it?Lately i weigh the most i have ever weighed while struggling w my diet after being skinny most of my life. Nothing too crazy but i can kinda feel the fat on me at this point at a bmi of 30. I'm tired all the time and my bloodwork came back looking good and i'm getting an at home sleep study for sleep apnea soon.I have had successful cuts but i often boomerang back even worse and this time instead of prioritizing a deficit i'm just going to focus on eating healthy. Which i would do on a cut anyway.
>>77578542If only this method worked for calories, you might not be the hambeast you are today
>>77582612Yeah it’s fucking awesome, I feel like I am super respondent though because I’ve only been able to choke down 900 calories in the last 56 hours or so. I’m hoping to lose it all in 5-7 months. Then I’ll start cutting and bulking
>>77582715Same, at least once I get down to a normal BMI where I'm confident my knees and heart won't explode I'll start going proper on lifting.>>77582632Only you know your own health, but I'd say there aren't many downsides for you starting a glp1. The upfront costs can be a little much, but generally that'll be immediately offset by you not eating as much. Losing the weight will help with your energy and sleep apnea, too. The one thing your doc will likely warn you about is that stopping the drugs often lead to rapid weight rebound for a lot of people, and stopping could make them less effective in the future should you want to get back on one. For me, I do plan to stop once I reach my target and am confident in the better eating habits I've built.
>>77582754>stopping the drugs often lead to rapid weight reboundBecause you get your appetite back? You can pretty much expect to add 5 lbs back as soon as you start eating again from glycogen and food in your gut. But that also accounts for 5 lbs of initial weight loss.
>>77582855Yep, you do gain a few kgs back. It happened to me when I stopped Wegovy before I got everything back under control.
>>77582855It's more a significant number of people who stop simply put all the weight back on plus extra. Mainly the people with genetic problems who desperately need the drugs to control their appetite even after developing better habits. There are still plenty who stop and keep it off, but these are people whose weight gain was primarily lifestyle-related.
Higher dose of reta = more calories burned or more appetite suppression?
>>77583167Both
>>77580074From STG:Vendor: AndyEndotoxin Alert Product: R30Batch: REPTNA vial from this batch tested as containing 1437 EU (endotoxin units). Testing via JanoshikI bought Reta 10s and Tirz 30s from him months ago, am I good?
>>77580074>>77583267Go to a doctor, retard.
>>77583278ok
>>77583278That will be 290$+ tip, goy
>>77583281No u
>>77583282I pay $40 but my annual visit is free
>>77583284Look at mr.scrooge McDuck over here.
>>77583286That's a lot in you country? How much do you pay for your glp?
>>77583297No. But I am a bit of a failure so it is a lot for me. I have been finagling things and hoping between trials so i cant really give you a real answer. The suffering comes later. They all want like $230 per month.
>>77583267Fuck Andy
>>77583320>230Is this alarming number to keep a doctor? You pay monthly? I imagine glp would be immensely cheap from a doctor.
Got my T40 and right now we are polling for tests.The thing is that im at 2,5 with mounjaro and discovered DTG and it totally make sense since i made numbers and what would cost me 5000€, goes down to just 300€.The thing is that Tirz is changing my life, i dont have appetite at all, and yesterday i had a weddding and didnt even drink a glass of alcohol. (I used to drink heavy in celebrations etc). Also, i lost almost 4 kilos in just 2 weeks, and im starting to walk everyday and do gym 4 times a week.Calling people lazy for taking peps is retarded since it is the first step for many of us to start doing shit, so stop being faggots and let us do our thing.Now genuine question, even im pretty happy with Tirz for now, if i want to change from Tirz to Reta, how should i do it? Should i start with aminimal dose too?
>>77583739ok
TIRZ IS KING
>>77584415prove it
>>77577060crabs in my life started with the>wow you're so skinny, are you anorexic? are you sick?comments already and i'm not even 15% body fat yet. i will never tell them im on tirz
>>77584550im also 24 bmi kek. no wonder i was fat for so long
>>77584550Fuck them.I had someone at work get all judgy over me on Tirz, and yet the fag used nicotine patches to quit smoking. The moment I pointed out the hypocrisy, he almost got violent (yet I was the one written up for workplace unacceptable behaviour).
>>77584556yeah i'm never telling anyone that i'm on tirz. most people simply can't handle it and i don't see any benefit to it.
>>77584821Why are you asking in here?
>>775848436 boxes of Tirz 30mg just arrived, adding to my 4 I already have. I'm stocked for a good 3 years at this rate.
>>77585016Didn't mean to reply to that post, meant to reply to OP.
>>775819122 months off all GLPs, my food noise is back but nowhere near as bad.
Anyone here using Eloralintide alone or in combination with something else? The distributor I use is selling that and a reta combo... seems tempting but if Eloralintide is far newer and less tested it doesn't seem as advisable.
>>77586234It's also quite hard to get too from what I've seen from the vendors.
>>77585016tolerance will go up if you just started
>>77586362Oh nah I've been on it for a year now, still effective at 5mg. However I am not using 3ml BAC but 1.5ml BAC, so 25 units actually equals 5mg. This was done both to save BAC water and to reduce the liquid levels per injection. It's very effective for me. Hospira BAC and filtered peps of course.My vendor has a 15% off sale with free shipping so I decided to stack up.
>>77584550I would just accept it as genuine concern and also that they recognize your weight loss which is pretty great. You noticeably improved.I'd never tell anyone that I was on tirz that I didn't have to though lmao I am about 14% body fat from my last DEXA scan.
Do any of these not make you throw up?T. Emetophobe
>>77586362Nah, bullshit. Dose escalation is unnecessarily sped up to maximize weight loss in order to make the drugs look better in trials. If you have an ounce of willpower, you can make a little bit of GLPs go a long way.
>>77586590The effects (and side effects) are highly individual, some people have little to no side effects and a great appetite blunting response from like 1mg reta, others need 6, 8, even 12mg a week to lose weight. You won't know until you try them.My advice is start as low as possible and wait out each dose for at least month before escalating. Once you find a dose you're losing at, keep on it as long as possible. Do not go up in dose unless you stall for 8 weeks.
>>77584415VK2735 is tirz but better. Anecdotally, reta + eloralintide is literal black magic metabolic hacking.
>>77586592This times a million. Just a smidgen of food planning and deliberate activity, plus the lowest effective dose of your favorite GLP-1, and you'll be losing weight for months.
My belly below my belly button feels numb or loss sense of feeling. This happened last night going to bed. Is this normal after taking glp? I inject in stomach.
>>77587142Never heard of that
Belly injections are too painful.Any difference in results if you inject in fatty part of the thigh?
>>77587706The thigh is slightly slower for absorption, but not by much.
I'm now off Reta mainly due to being at my goal weight, but also due to having very low body fat (the Glucagon agonist helps shred the fat) and my heart rate racing sometimes. My setup is very similar to >>77586416 + >>77585016 but I'll stay at 5mg Tirz only for the food noise and fullness effects for a while. Like another anon mentioned earlier, I will gradually wean off over the next 6 months.
>>77586590Depends on the dosage honestly. My sister hopped on Tirz not really doing any good research and injected like a full syringe as a first dose and she ended up vomiting and shitting herself.
>>77587706>Belly injections are too painful.you're a big guy
>>77587706sorry what, are you doing it right? wrong needle perhaps? it doesnt hurt at all
Fresh restack boys
>>77587706I found thigh injections to actually be more painful, but I'm fairly lean. If you're doing it in the right spot 2+ inches away from your belly button it should literally be a short sting and then nothing (31g needle)
I agree with him about belly injection. Using vial and needle not self injections. Sometimes he dont hurt but most of the time it do. they make the syringe needle too big.
>>77587706....it's not that painful.>Angle the needle at 45 degrees if it's a 6mm or 8mm needle>Slowly push in
>>77589073Yep.I only had slight pain once almost all my weight and body fat was dropped. I had to go down to a 6mm needle.
>>77578490>4 months off Tirz>No cravings aside from the 10-ish days of hunger pang returns which were easily managed by continuing my dieting and drinking water>Bloodwork all good>Heart all goodJust two more weeks though, right?
I hit my goal of 155 and fully dropped reta (2mg). My last dose was on September 28th. It was going decently well until probably last week and now I cannot stop eating. Last week I weighed myself at 168 and this monday at 165. I am not sure how to actually maintain this weight naturally to be quite honest. Can I just cruise on tirz for a year and my set point will lower? My doctors are telling me otherwise (claude and gemini). >>7758977310 days only? When did you start counting from? Technically I still have about 0.14mg in my bloodstream which is practically nothing. I did kind of fuck up my diet the past 3 weeks because I went on vacation and I haven't started counting calories since coming back. >>77588293inject in ur thighs and this is especially important for the spicy peptides>>77587706side of your thighs pic rel depends how fat you are but I need to use 4mm >>77587874I used to pin with 25 in there and it was definitely the biggest issue, but even with 32g 4mm needles sometimes I hit a sensitive spot compared to my thighs where there is practically no sensation
>>77590519From 2 weeks after my final jab when I titrated down from 7.5mg to 2.5mg.
This is why you must gym and exercise on GLP-1s, gentlemen (no women on the internet).
>>77591371Oh there's a thread with this pic already, my bad.
>>77591371After one month on zep and two other months of working out and diet, I'm starting to notice a little tirz-ky neck forming because a lot of fat is leaving my face quickly. It's not really super noticeable and it's gonna happen anyway in the future, and I guess it's better than looking like a fat fuck. What I'm really worried about is my gut. A majority of my excess weight ended up in my core. Even if I keep lifting, I feel like there's still gonna be a good bit of excess skin there once I reach my target.
When does the nausea end? Upped my tirz to 7.5mg 3 days ago and have barely been able to eat I feel so sick, also have a banging headache. Never had any side effects on 5mg
>>77592885Drink more water.
>>77592885Unfortunately it may not subside. As anon said, water.But buy nausea pills, you'll need them.
>>77592885NEVER
>>77592885Enjoy.
>>77592885Couldn't you just stay at 5mg forever and keep losing weight with the slightest amount of deliberate lifestyle adjustments (rhetorical)
>>77594261You can, but many people build up a tolerance, hence why they need to titrate up.An easy way to stay at 5mg is to stop pinning for a month and let your system clear out the substance, then go again from the starter dose.
>>77581394Reporting in, but no pics as I'm not home.Basically a shitload of Tirz 60mg boxes (16 of them).
Testingfags are insufferable.Spawning from the elitist shithole of Stairwaytogray, they plague every single peptide community and don't contribute a single goddamn thing except for the same repetitive drivel bullshit:>"Has anyone tested this?">"Where are the test results?">(while another conversation is in progress) "Cool but what about testing?">"Ummm, dude...test results?"Yet they won't lift a finger to test the products themselves, and then immediately shitlist any vendor who doesn't respond in time (time being literally 5 minutes). If they're not on the "golden magical spreadsheet" of approved vendors, they never get given any chance whatsoever to attempt to provide documentation.I absolutely agree that batches need testing at Janoshik, but testingfags are a true cancer to the peptide community. I hope you read this, STG Telegram, because your faggot mods and wannabe mods (helpers) in the channels are just as massive faggots as testingfags.
>>77595467>I absolutely agree that batches need testingbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut>Testingfags are insufferable>testingfags are a true cancer to the peptide communityhow would you feel if you hadn’t eaten breakfast?nah you fucking nigger, we should prob inject random shit from chinese people called "kelly" and "Nadia" or whatever. We shouldnt be anal about testing. >they won't lift a finger to test the products themselvesIt got so bad and congested with testing in STG that they banned testing groups, now its only invites to groups that they allow. So basically you are a retarded nigger, again. >"golden magical spreadsheet"Nah bro, we shouldnt recognize good vendors with good service and high standards. It should be a free for all with 50% you get infection from a random chink. All in all, i diagnose you with terminal nigger, faggot.
>>77595467DUDE JUST TRUST SOME RANDOM SCAMMER OR RETARD ON THE INTERNET!!!!
>>77595704>t. STG shillTesting SHOULD happen but the way YOU fags go on about it is beyond niggery levels. You are the cancer killing peptide communities with your insane overbearing and arrogance.>>77595710Samefag
>>77595467Kek I just pay for my own testing and don't bother with Telefag groups. They don't deserve my results; they'll just cry and question it no matter what.I get where you're coming from but the strictness is there for a reason. They're not as bad as you make out. Maybe you had a bad experience with some other group that got bombarded?
>>77595763>STG shillnever used STG before i got my first 2 kits. I just understand their vaue >ad hominemsi accept your concession, nigger.>samefaggingRent free
>>77595850Not him, but>redditspacing
Any experience going off GLP-1s?I've been on tirz for 8 months and lost ~50 lbs from 220 to 170ish. Highest was at 12.5mg.I've been off for about 2 weeks and able to manage my hunger mostly but I do feel the food noise coming back at times.
>>77595965Have a gander at>>77581912I'm about to do my weaning off this week too.
>>77595899I know the trope but still i like it much morelike that. It's much clearer. Also i think i used enough 'bad' words to deter any reddit allegations.
>>77595965Yeah all that weight is going to come barreling back unless/until you make reasonable lifestyle changes to not eat like a fatass.
13 week so far295ish to 262 so far.Past 2 weeks Ive kinda plateaued but body seems to be reacting to it again.Last dose was 10mg , still weekly.Used all of my first shipment which was 6? vialsNew shipment came last week which are all 20mg each so ideally I stay at 10mg per week for the foreseeable future until I hit my weight goal.
>>77596262As they sayTIRZ IS KING
Just took my first injection this morning, 2.5mg Zep. When am I supposed to feel anything?
>>77597238It varies. Sometimes an hour, sometimes a day.You'll find that it should start being fully effective within 24 hours.
Just started 1mg reta, didn't use a filter. Really what's the risk with these?
>>77597448Ignoring the paranoid skitzos regarding testing, muh China chemicals, etc, Reta can cause a higher heart rate and also give you some truly shit sleep. I've been on it for a long time and I occasionally get either a lack of sleep or even nightmares. My heart rate goes up a bit for a day after the jab, but then it subsides.Filtering simply helps keep the peptide clean by filtering out any standard contaminants and unwanted molecules. It doesn't do a thing to endotoxins though; that's a whole other story.
>>77596875sorry brotirz might be kingBut this is reta, and its the pope>>77597448Only filter if you are using suspicious chinese garbage. Anything made in a normal 1st world nation is going to be perfectly fine. Just make sure its clear when you prepare it.I also started with reta, starting dose is usually 2mg so you might not feel much. From my own experience, the first week made me feel sick from even thinking about food, also you'll piss all your excess water out over the next few days.Going forward, you should be drinking as much water as you can.
>>77597238Within 24 hours for sure, but YMMV. Start being more conscious of the things that you're putting into your motuh.
>>77597710A reta that is not part of the clinical trial is made in China. Please don't tell me you're paying a premium for a "usa lab" or some bs like that
>>77597853That's factually incorrect. Any company can make reta, and dozens of companies do it domestically.
Am I the only one who never felt the "even thinking about food will make you sick" thing? Used tirz and reta at high doses and it's not like hunger disappears. Might be that my "hunger" is just psychological in nature / from boredom / related to dopamine and ADHD
>>77577808>Losing 1.6 pounds per weekAt this point why not just lose weight normally and avoid the side effects
>>77598159Who wants to tell her?
>>77597856Can I ask what companies, or will that get you banned for posting them?
I'm gonna try reta but it's gonna be my first time reconstituting anything myself. What's the best place to buy bac water? The vendor I'm looking at doesn't sell it.
>>77598461Thats not that bad, especially if you're very overweight.
>>77598613There are none. This person believes single vial sellers who lie about them being a US source. The US source is a closet at a Chinese restaurant or Chinese student's dorm room. It all comes from China.
>>77598633Single vial resellers are pure scum, all of them. They are the reason peptides are being fucked by normies.
>>77598616Depends where you're at.
7,5 mg Mounjaro costs just as much as 10 mg (3800 SEK), what the fuck?
>>77598785Usually the case with some places, it's mainly only the last two sizes which are ramped up hardcore in prices.>eg Wegovy in Australia is $250 for 0.25mg, 0.5mg, 1mg, then it goes up to $370 for 1.7mg and 2.4mg
>>77598782Correct. Single vial sellers are pieces of shit. Selling to fools on clearnet at 10x prices, untested or worse tested bad. They don't care, it's just a cash grab for them. Meanwhile it's so visible that pharma is going to make their captured agency crack down. Grey will be gone this time next year. All because of those greedy fucks.
>>77598898It makes me want to do a massive restock just to be safe.
where are you guys finding $1/mg pricingeven the chinese sources in the telegram back when it existed didn't have vials that low
NOT asking for s*urces btw, just wondering if these prices I hear about are even real
>>77599011>>77599020Can you explain more?I only know of the usual $40-$100 kits of Reta and Tirz regular pricing.
>>77599026Ah phew, that seems to match the prices I'm seeing as well. Wasn't sure whether I was getting scammed at soccer mom levels with what I’ve been paying, especially with anons in previous threads casually throwing around $1/mg like it's the going rate.
>>77599032Um even stg tier us warehouses are 250 after shipping for 30mg kits. That's less than a buck per mg by my math. Are you shopping with those reseller scum or something?
>>77599087Shit, my math was wrong. 30 mg kits are ~300 mg total, but I was assuming 30mg total.
>>77599095Ah, yes that's more like it. Direct ive ordered at $99 plus $50! shipping, but it's a painful experience.
>>77599102Shipping is such a cunt, even the local warehouses from the main vendors have a steep shipping fee.
>>77598613They can't be named, but simple due diligence will prove domestic production.Im not saying all of it is, but you can find reputable sources.>>77598633Just because you had a bad experience with chinese garbage doesnt mean all of it is from china. Stay fat, fatty.>>77598616If you are usa, just get hospira
I think I may be retarded, but it's my first time using a syringe. I'm trying to mix the BAC water with the peptide. I have a 10ML vial of BAC water, trying to draw 2ML with a 3 ML / 23G needle. I pull the stopper back before inserting to 3, then push it in, push in the stopper. Then I turn the vial upside down and attempt to draw. From watching videos people are able to do this without needing to hold onto the syringe but I cannot, it will just come out. The problem is that it draws SOME of the liquid but then stops. Tried with multiple needles always the same. The needle IS in the water.
reminder that sulphuric/metallic burps is a side effect of delayed gastric emptying from your food staying too long in your stomach, IME this is also accompanied by nausea and not a great feeling.smaller portions and less meat in a single meal can help
>>77599626do you mean people don't pull on the plunger?I inject air as a well but the pressure is not enough to send the liquid in the syringe, I just pull the plunger
>>77599626The vial is a vacuum. if you dont add air before hand its going to pull on the handle. Just add air until you cant add air anymore.
>>77600122Precisely.>>77599626>23GI take it those thick ones are just for BAC water and you have thinner ones for pinning?
>>77599651Good advice
Bought mounjaro yesterday. Here you can just go into a pharmacy and buy it but it costs 200 fucking bucks for 4x2.5 ml doses. I'm really hoping that I'm not one of those people who need to reach the max dose for it to be effective.
i havent even been lifting
>>77600781it's been 12 hours since i took the first dose. ive been awake for 4 hours and ive had a small protein shake and thats about it. dont feel hungry and dont feel like eating (those two are not always 1:1 as you all know). Could be placebo but I've read accounts of it starting to work after 12 hours or so so who knows
>>77601026bro my shit always kicks in fast for me no matter what i shoot upmake sure you get water in your body though
The hiccup epidemic at my office was due to glp-1s all along?
Started micro-dosing Reta (1.5mg/week) alongside clean eating and hitting 12k steps a day.Down 22 lbs in two months and my resting heart rate is back to normal after dropping the greasy garbage. Food noise is completely dead.To the midwits crying about "muh chemicals" and comparing us to meth heads: stay mad while your joints disintegrate under 30% body fat. Tirz and Reta are literal cheat codes if you aren't completely retarded with your dosing.
>>77601807I wish I could be at 1.5mg, I've been at 5mg for 9 months now as it's the only way the food noise and fullness kicks right in.I'm envious of those who can stay low forever.
>>77577060>What are you taking?Retatrutide from Lumira>How much are you injecting?4mg stopped working, went to 8mg. Brutal side effects. Dropped down to 5mg.>What weight did you start at and how much have you lost?253 in January to 212 today.
>>77601026Update nobody asked for: it's definitely already working about as well as I could have hoped for. Really glad it didn't take multiple weeks to kick in and that the lowest dose is efficacious (though I assume there is the possibility that it will stop being as efficacious requiring me to up the dose at some point). 0 hunger and 0 food noise. Ate 1200 cals yesterday.
>>77599626There's apps available to help you calculate but you could just ask ChatGPT
is Tirz shit tier compared to Reta?
>>77599626why is anime girl melting
>>77602850no its great, nearly as effective with way less sides.
>>77602850Anon, they're both excellent. Naturally, everyone reacts differently to the compound, which a LOT of anons here are incapable of understanding. They think that if it's like X for them, then it'll be like X for all. Delusional and retarded.With that irrefutable truth bomb done, let's go through the COMMON effects of both.>RetaIt has GLP-1, GIP and Glucagon (THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLP-3 YOU RETARD FUCKS). These three combined are very powerful not only for weight and fat loss, but also organ health, fatty liver reduction, food noise suppression and fullness. It excels at helping to shred body fat similar to Tesamorelin. However, outside of the possible usual nausea, diarrhea and constipation effects, it is common for users of Reta to have a higher resting heart rate, bad sleep patterns and fatigue. After reconstitution, it only lasts 6 weeks in the fridge before degrading (go to STG if you want the study, morons).>TirzThere's a reason we say Tirz is king. It has GLP-1 and GIP, but the appetite suppression and fullness is significantly stronger than everything on the market except for Cagri, but that's an Amylin Acid. It also has anti-inflammation properties alongside organ health promotion, reduction of fatty liver, obstructive sleep apnea reduction and blood sugar maintenance. It is common for major nausea to occur at all dose levels, as well as the usual suspects as mentioned in Reta above. After reconsitution, it lasts 3 months before degrading, making higher concentrations manageable. You'll never find a better weight loss jab than Tirz for everyday use, plus unlike Reta, it's not experimental/trial phased; it's out commercially and via the gray.
>>77603334Ok but how much does it degrade at what rate
>>77603561Sharply after that point, becomes unusuable within a week at most.
>>77602850sema is shit tier compared to tirz and reta.tirz and reta are both s tiers in their own way.most ppl will be fine with tirz, if it doesn't work for you, or you really want to turn yourself into a guinea pig, run reta instead
>>77602850tirz is goated
>>77603334If you arent using a vial of reta in 6 weeks you are just retarded
>>77605345Yep, should be no reason to have it last more than five weeks at the very MOST. 2-4 weeks is the standard.
>>77605274Sema should be discontinued IMO
Am I good to just switch from Reta to Triz? is the dosing any different? On Week 2 of 1mg Reta (just using the lowest effective dose) with my last injection yesterday. Really havent had any side effects but I think ill swtich to triz once this vial is done is another 2-3 weeks
>>77605920As long as you go from that 1mg Reta dose to the base starter dose of 2.5mg for Tirz one werk after your last Reta shot, you're fine.
>>77606188>werkweek
Tirz was the reason I finally stopped drinking. I get violently sick whenever I try to have a drink.Tirz is king.
Just had my first week on 2.5mg Zep, I still get hungry for meals and still crave snacks. I do feel I'm eating a little less and being more conscious, but I can't pinpoint any mental change at all from the Tirz other than maybe a very very light headache sometimes. Really hoping I'm not a nonresponder, maybe I'll feel something more with my updose in a few weeks.
>>77606859Give it another two weeks for 2.5mg dose 2 and 3, if there's no change, then yeah 5mg or even 7.5mg may be the way to go. I'm lucky at 5mg, but I know people on 12.5mg and even 15mg, it's insane (not their fault).
>>77605631This.>>77606760Same here. I haven't had a drink in 6 months now.
>People buy BAC that isn't Hospira or GenetekSad
>>77577060Is Stairway to gray actually still useful for getting started? It reads as largely AI generated?
>>77608698It's extremely useful and not AI.
Anyone tried the new WeGovy pills yet? Can they be split?
>>77608698Yes. It's the best resource for newbs. The owners and mods are not selling anything and will kick out any vendors that are proven scammers or selling dangerous product. Join the telegram, everything is there, the website is just basic 101 info. DO NOT ACCEPT ANY DMs. ONLY CONTACT VENDORS USING THE LINKS IN THE VENDOR SECTION.
>>77609255The amount of newfags and retards in STG is the reason they have that bot spamming the channels every waking minute.
>>77577060If 15mg tirz is no longer helping me, would adding in 1mg reta help?
>>77608884my fat coworkers, who had done both injections and the pill, said that they got violently nauseous from just the first dose of the pill. I would just stick to pinning tirz.
>>77609953Yep, or even look into Cagri as well. If you are going to do Reta with Tirz, you'll need to lower your Tirz by at least 5mg.
>>77610036wait why would i lower it?
>>77610040At maximum dose, you'll absolutely overload your receptors if you add more. Tirz has GLP-1 and GIP, so Reta will stack on top of that, alongside adding Glucagon to the mix. You'll likely (not 100%, of course) have major side effects due to the stack overload. It's common for people to do a ratio of 25/75 (eg 2mg Reta, 10mg Tirz).Cagri is a good new addition to Tirz or Reta, as it's not a GLP-1 at all - it's an Amylin Acid, and it's that absurdly powerful for fullness and appetite suppression that many people can't go more than 1mg a week without psycho fatigue and nausea kicking on.
>More Tirz 60mg kits just arrived in the postThank you Mr Tirzman.
