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>>77577473
It makes you somewhere between 1.5-3x as strong as any natty possibly could be. It turns you into a soulless killing machine who can jump through ceilings and knock someone out by punching the air next to them.
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It's the spiritual equivalent of trooning out
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>>77577473
It's self-reflection. It means you're too lazy and you lack the work ethic to put the actual effort in.
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>>77577501
This unfortunately

Also the fertility and lifelong dependency
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>>77577473
Just get another hobby, do literally anything else besides lifting.
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Cuts your lifespan in half
It's illegal
Permanently fucks up your hormones for the rest of your life
Makes you infertile
Gives you acne
Permanently gives you feminine nipples if you're not careful
Makes you lactate if you're not careful
Turns you into the male equivalent of a bleach blonde barbie with fake tits. Respectable women will think you look artificial and weird.
Probably more issues I'm not thinking of
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>>77577473
Not sustainable
That's the true essence or core of the thing
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>>77577473
It makes effeminate men angry that they are dyels.
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>>77577562
>Cuts your lifespan in half
no it doesnt
>It's illegal
no its not
>Permanently fucks up your hormones for the rest of your life
its all reversible
>Makes you infertile
also reversible
>Gives you acne
for some people
>Permanently gives you feminine nipples if you're not careful
>Makes you lactate if you're not careful
plenty of ways to keep estrogen in check
>Turns you into the male equivalent of a bleach blonde barbie with fake tits. Respectable women will think you look artificial and weird.
incel
>Probably more issues I'm not thinking of
you forgot about it making your dick smaller (it doesnt)
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>>77577473
serious answer is highly compound-dependent; some shit like tren can give you liver cancer despite what >>77577892 while other shit like ecdy is a highly promising anti-aging research chemical despite what >>77577562 says.
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>>77577892
Go squirt your titty milk out before replying, having full udders is making you moody
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>>77577895
How about var (in moderate amounts)?
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>>77577895
There has never been a single case of research stating that tren gives you liver cancer. Unless I am behind in the lititure.
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>>77578076
Never run anything without test as a base. Var was prescribed as a muscle sparring drug for everything from AIDs, bed ridden patients and burn victims. It's safe. The key is to use test and run your car over 50mgs daily
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>Willingly injecting gender affirming hormones
>Tainting the one thing you have created in His image
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>>77577892
Gatekeep, retard. Can't let the nattrannies know how good this shit is for literally next to zero risk.
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>>77577473

you do it at the morning of life, when you're young and stupid. the morning of life is when you're before 40, you are mostly external in your way of life.

but that phase passes. and once you reach the afternoon of life, which occurs at around 34-40 for men. you will begin to live life more internally, you will begin to think about decisions that brought you so far, etc.

not having your balls work, or knowing you did irreversible damage toi yourself and you WILL Die younger, or knowing you need to rely on expensive medications to function from now on, once you're at the afternoon of life surrounded by your wife and your kids, is not a bad feeling. and it's worse once you realize that you did all that, for nothing, for vanity, and for things that, once you reach the afternoon of life phase, are utterly meaningless to you.

smart men try to prevent young men from doing things they will later regret. you're in a stage of your life where you're not conditioned to accept with me if you're even asking these questions.

you're doing it for girls. but attractive men can tell you, that if you think that's what you need to succeed, then you will fail + have body dysmorphia.

there is no logical and intelligent "good" in doing it you can come up with. be a fucking adult and admit you're insecure and be done with it.
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>>77577473
guy with the backwards cap looks particularly bad for a dude on steroids
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>>77578255
Well, there was a research showing that it's too toxic to give to pigs for mass and that's pretty much it. No one bothers to research it as nobody in his clear mind will use it.
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>>77579484
>Anabolic Androgenic Steroids and Hepatocellular Adenoma and Carcinoma: Molecular Mechanisms and Clinical Implications
>https://www.mdpi.com/2036-7422/15/3/44
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>>77577895
Ecdy isn't exactly steroids. I'd go as far as to say it has no downsides
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>>77578063
I first saw this conversation at least 2 years ago.
A few weeks ago while I was watching camwhores, I stumbled upon a couple, a bimbo and a roider. The roider had death grip and squeezed his shriveled, blood-shot cock into her ass.
I would really contemplate many of my decisions if I had to be so violent with my own penis during sex.
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>>77577473
It comes with a laundry list of negative side effects. Toxic effects on the heart, liver, kidneys, brain, skin, and who knows what else.

On a side note, does anyone have opinions on cycle length and toxicity? For example running a fairly toxic steroid for a month that has really good gains compared to running a weaker less toxic steroid for multiple months. My ultra-instinct is telling me the more toxic steroid at shorter period is better since the body handles acute damage better than continuous damage of lower magnitude.
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>>77579819
>Ecdy isn't exactly steroids
no, indeed literally is a steroid, just moar substituted than human ones...
>molecule features a cyclopentanoperhydrophenanthrene skeleton (four-ring structure) derived from cholesterol, characterized by:
>A double bond at C-7 and a keto group at C-6.
Hydroxyl groups at positions C-2, C-3, C-14, C-20, C-22, and C-25.
>A side chain containing three hydroxyl groups, which is essential for its biological activity.
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>>77577473
Most people arent responsible enough to enjoy the fruits of trt. but it can be done safely and even arguably extend your life if done right. Straight up blasting is a different conversation entirely altogether



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