Aren't you tired of those vegan & ketoschizo posters?I am tired of them trying to push us into the extreme ends of diet restrictions.Vegans & Strict Vegetarians have to rely on supplements to compensate for the nutritional deficiencies while Ketoschizos & Carnivores are soo constipated full of shit because of no fiber.While I may have hypothetically imagined what my life would look like if I were a vegetarian(the results of it was pescatarian), at the end of the day we need both animal products & plants. We need poultry, fish, red meat.>Perhaps we could eat ze bugs as well Maybe
>breakfast: eggs>snack 1: peanuts>lunch: minced meat, vegetables and fruit>snack 2: more peanuts>dinner: same as lunch>before bed: a cup of whole, warm milk with cognac and honeyI tried both vegan, stuffin myself with beans, and carnivore, eating just a bunch of flesh for each meal. None of them was enjoyable nor showed the same results as my current, regular human diet.
Never been constipated in carnivore.
>>77580639>Ketoschizos & Carnivores are soo constipated full of shit because of no fiber.Retard, milk and juice is enough to prevent constipation
>>77580639true. i dont care what people eat but im tired of the plant cultists trying to police my diet, especially here where we are talking about health. wish they could just stay at wholefoods and stfu. i am open to bugs if the profile looks good but still gonna eat my steaks (with potatoes)
>>77580639>have to rely on supplements to compensate for the nutritional deficienciesFortified foods make this a non-issue. Literally zero mechanical difference between getting b12 from cows milk and fortified soi milk
>>77580639OMNI CHADS RISE UP
>>77581071if all the dogma you spew were true why does every vegan look like they have aids?
what supplements do vegetarians need?t. vegetarianalso cows eat food fortified with cobalt so they can produce b12 in their milk because modern soil sucks. no matter how you slice it you're getting supplements even if you claim you're not
>>77580639>eat near-carnivore ketogenic diet for months for weight loss>feel good with stable energy>switch to lean meat, add lots of fruits and grain, high fiber, high carb low fat>still feel good with stable energywoah.. almost like being omnivores with heavy evolutionary history of vast ranging/migration gives us massive flexibility with regards to diet
>be in doggerland 16000 BCE>tribe hunts and kills a massive mammoth>"WAIT GUYS we can't just eat off this carcass for weeks we're omnivores remember? we have to go find a trove of glycine max to eat this with, schizos. what are you, ketolards?"
Humans are facultative carnivores. The only reason we cant be full carnivores is that the only reliable cattle carbohydrate source is milk but it makes you fat as fuck due to the randle and krebs cycles compared to just eating honey and fruits and tubers otherwise there isnt much wrong with keto compared to the average omnivore "balanced" dogshit diet
>>77580910>>77580695>>77581624Larpers. I tried the tiktok le based faceIQ/ Goatis diet and it 100% constipates you. The second I added potatoes, carrots, and cabage my shits became pleasant again. Go on and continue tricking the goyim cuz you think it's funny tho.
>>77580639I always say,Extremism is fine but being an absolutist is retardedIt's like these people are programmed to be one thing or the other, and have to rage against anything that doesn't fit their delusion I don't get it
>>77580639"Omnivore" is a meaningless term. The way it's used by laypeople, they would define 95% of animals as omnivores. Basically anything that isn't a ruminant or strict herbivore would be an omnivore. Cats, which we define as obligate carnivores, eat grass regularly.>Perhaps we could eat ze bugs as wellWe COULD eat a lot of things. That doesn't mean we should. Bugs are not human food. We can't digest the chitin in their shells. We're clearly biologically designed to eat large animals.Also, the only way you get constipated on a carnivore diet is if you drink a lot of milk. Pure meat doesn't cause constipation. The casein in milk, however, has a binding effect that can cause constipation if you aren't getting any fiber.
>>77581817cats eat grass??
I do keto. My diet:>meat, eggs, fish>vegetables>nuts and seeds>cheesewow terrible just awful I must be trying to trick you
>>77581820Yes
>>77581875this is basically my diet but i eat oatmeal in the morning and some fruit. you can have veggies and still be ketogenic? genuinely curious
>>77581817Nice picture and post, you've never hunted in your life btw
>>77581648You didnt even read my post you retarded moron. I literally said that humans eating tubers and being adaptative doesn't make us omnivore. Most of our needed nutrients are from animal products, the rest is accessory for wellness. Also faceiq changed his grift he's a ray peat shill now
>>77582240>I literally said that humans [eating everything] doesn't make us omnivore (=eaters of everything)If you really did say that you're an idiot
>>77581648jews want you to eat bugs, retardnot chicken and beef
>>77582244Bears are omnivores. They can thrive on grass and berries ALONE AND be healthy AND get all their nutrients from it for elongated periods of time. Humans cant live on spinach or berries alone and will always need supplementation or irregular non abundantly available plant sources of nutrients to replicate such feat. Otherwise the natural way is mostly animal sources for nutrients and plants for energy and some minerals. That's called a facultative carnivore, not an omnivore.
>>77582340Look at india, not that they're a picture of health, but that's nearly 2 billion "people" who are primarily vegetarian or vegan. Though I am certainly willing to concede that they are not the same species as us humans.
>>77582182A ketogenic diet is just a diet under 20 grams of carbs a day, so vegetables would fit in the guidelines.
>>77582182It's uniquely American to count fiber as carbs in spite of the fact fiber cannot convert glucose therefore fiber and mkat vegetables are keto
>>77582941>mkat*most
>>77580639Make sure you eat less than 20g of saturated fat per day
>>77580639We don't NEED everything, but for optimal living it is preferable. If you don't mind going bald, being weak and so forth, you don't actually "need" everything.
>>77581624Fresh kills have muscle glycogen.
>>77581817>Bugs are not human food. We can't digest the chitin in their shells.you're an ignorant retard, 5 seconds of research would have told you that we can>Yes, humans produce two fully functional chitinases: Acidic Mammalian Chitinase (AMCase), which is secreted primarily in the stomach, and Chitotriosidase (CHIT1), which is produced by activated immune cells.
>>77582941depends, soluble fiber is digestible into short chain fatty acids by gut microbiota, worth ~1.5-2kcal per gram. insoluble fiber is indigestible, so nearly 0.
>>77582382They're not particularly thriving as you've mentioned and vegetarians outnumber actual vegans afaik. They're just surviving which is entirely possible on any diet. That doesn't prove we're bound to any dietary mode.>>77582958Yeah man 1g of glycogen that depletes immediately if you dont eat it quick enough is what's gonna fuel you>>77582962>Chitotriosidase (CHIT1), which is produced by activated immune cells.Doesn't it cause horrible immune reactions tho ?
>>77582964sfcas aren't carbs my dude they're one of the primary benefits of keto no it does not depend ever
>>77582224Compelling argument, faggot
>>77582962We can digest all kinds of garbage because the human body is resilient. That doesn't mean we can digest it well and thrive on it. And chitin is just one problematic component of bugs that we know of - who knows what else is in them? We have a natural disgust response to bugs for a reason. You're a retard if you eat bugs instead of real meat.
>>77580639Sounds like you're an insecure guy afraid to try out new things? What if pegging
>>77580639indeed
>>77580639>Vegans & Strict Vegetarians have to rely on supplementsretard
>>77585465yeah what is he talking about. vegans rely on heavily processed meat substitutes!
>>77585478>vegans rely on heavily processed meat substitutes!most don't
>>77585481well you are a lying zealot. omnivores dont even have substitutes because we eat food humans were meant to eat. there is no such thing as a carnivore vegetable substitute, says alot