Are machines actually worse than free weights or is it just broscience?
>2026>using boomer machinestop meme
Great post OP idk why this board is dying... NOT
>>77584914Eh... I'll explain for the 100th time.They're neither better nor worse... they're just different.Free weights force you to stabilize them as you lift, so minor muscles are also engaged in the movement.Machines use a linear and stabilized path so you can push more weight since you don't need to control it as much.Imagine overhead press for example. Doing it with barbell requires balance as you don't want to just flop on your back with a loaded bar over your head. The shoulders and spine need more stability. When done at a machine you can just put 100% into push because there is no risk for the weight to go in unpredictable direction if you lose control.You should use both in your training./thread
gonna be in a hotel later today, gonna use the free weights only and ignore the faggot machines in their gym. i don't even know how to use them and don't want to know. dumbbells and barbells only. the bench is the only "machine" i'll look at.
>>77584914Worse for what? You don’t need to stabilize anything, you isolate the muscle you are working and you can push harder with less risk for injury so in theory it would be better for building muscle. In reality no difference.
>>77584914Definitely build up tendon strength with lots of freeweights, just remember tendon recovery and hypertrophy is somewhat independent of muscular as in it takes more rest to recover from and you probably barely even train what you want(bulletproof shoulders) since it takes several days of hammering it vs muscle you can technically lift too much in one day but none of you nerds would know the real limit.
>>77585003How am I supposed to have a personality if I can't pick a side?
>>77585009Machines are always used after freeweights and are a much more incomplete lift, I have tried no barbell for like 2 weeks and it seems to lack the kind of density from barbell.
>>77585003>Free weights force you to stabilize them as you lift, so minor muscles are also engaged in the movemenwhen will this broscience bullshit fucking die already
>>77585022Well I don’t know what to tell you man, it’s not like your muscles give a shit what you are lifting and if you think about strapping yourself into a chair and only moving the weight with your quads vs placing a barbell on your back and squatting down the former is going to be less fatiguing overall. But like I said it doesn’t really matter which you do I would like to see a world where it’s both instead of one because there likely is some benefit to both and maybe they complement each other like for example my tendons do get sore so why not work with machines then.
>>77584914machines can be dangerous for very heavy weight, especially the smith machine cables are greathack squats are greati love the gym when its not crowdedi wish i went to the gym todaymy greatest fear is that when we finally learn how to live we won't have enough time
>>77584914Cables are superior to free weights when it comes to Arms and Back.
the stabilizer muscles bro, think about all the stabilizer muscles
>>77585044Stabilizer muscles are smaller, deeper muscles that hold your body and joints in proper alignment while larger "prime mover" muscles create big movements. They provide balance, prevent unwanted joint rotation, and absorb stress.Key Stabilizer Muscles by Body Area• Shoulder Complex: • Rotator cuff (supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, subscapularis) • Scapular stabilizers (serratus anterior, lower trapezius, rhomboids)• Core & Trunk: • Local stabilizers (transversus abdominis, multifidus, pelvic floor, internal obliques)• Hip & Glute Complex: • Hip stabilizers (gluteus medius, gluteus minimus, piriformis, deep hip rotators)• Lower Leg & Ankle: • Ankle stabilizers (tibialis posterior, peroneus longus/brevis, soleus)Why They Matter• Joint Protection: They keep bones centered in their sockets and prevent force from misdirecting into joint space.• Injury Prevention: Strong stabilizers reduce imbalances, lower the risk of strain, and protect the lower back and knees.• Better Performance: They allow you to lift heavier and move with more control during compound exercises.
>>77585044Its reality buttercup