Why do roiders all claim they have had no adverse effects from roiding based on tests and labs done that require a doctor referral and are near impossible to get when you have a a legit medical issue beyond checking your roiding health?>No valve or heart enlargementRequires and echocardiogram at the least. In America you don't get that unless you're presenting with symptoms even then they're going to try to rule out anything serious with an EKG or something less expensive before they get to the echo. They pretty much won't do it unless they see something obviously wrong with your heartbeat before they even consider giving you one >Labs are fineTSH/hemo/metabolic panel usually doesn't flag anything. Often even if any of the panels are abnormal doctors look at it as a transient spike rather than anything serious. And we'll just schedule another test 6 months from then if they do anything at all.All roiders are liars, and egotistical, delusional and the best case scenario you can hope for is dying before 60, in a wheelchair with a withered body and years of health problems with no one around you because you alienated, and hurt everyone during your roid years.
>>77590974Based roidbros like Rich Piana always said things like "roids are bad and can kill you and YOU SHOULD NOT ROID unless you want to compete"
>>77590974>require a doctor referral and are near impossible to getthey use direct to consumer services and telemedicine americas all consuming obsession with maximizing commerce does have some advantages if you have the money
>>77590986That's not even true. You set up a telehealth appointment complaining about angina. They schedule an EKG. The EKG shows your heart is beating normally. No further tests are given. I guess you can really push it to the point they do echo by playing up other symptoms but it's really at the discretion of the doctor but it's a long long process.All this shit about roiders being in god-like health while their blood pressure sits at 190/110 is absolutely a lie. A lot of them claim that they have all these regular test results when there's just no such thing.
>>77591005Yes, especially when any general practitioner doctor has no fucking clue about the effects of steroids. An endocrinologist is out of the fucking question. Because getting to a specialist like that you'd have to be suspected of some sort of disease they're not going to fucking talk to you about taking testosterone most of the time. That's why Americans do retarded health shit and fall for fads. DIY TRT or talk to some fucking doctor over the phone 5000 miles away you just rubber stamps prescriptions.Going to the doctor, and and seeing a specialist is a long burocratic process. You're likely worse than most countries with a nationalized healthcare system
In europe I just randomly ask echocardiogram my general practicioner to check my heart and they always do it as it's a very cheap procedure. Just to be on the safe side and know that my heart works the way it should be. I'm not taking amy roids, but I'm pretty sure roiders, with their blood pressure, are sent to this procedure by their practicioner even without asking for it.
>>77591019Well they have blood pressure that high they don't have perfect health. I really doubt that they'll refer anyone to any test
>>77591040you're just making shit up.Blood pressure is one the easiest things to control on roids and its usually just secondary to high estrogen (also easily managed)And you can get an echocardiogram etc without symptoms if you're willing to pay for it as insurance probably wont cover it.>>77591016>Going to the doctor, and and seeing a specialist is a long burocratic processAnother retard just saying things.You just go to the doctor, he checks you out and if you need a specialists he does a referral and you call and make an appointment.That's it.
>>77590974Are you upset from the anon in the other thread saying his heart checked out fine lol
>>77590974>>77590986>>77591005You don't need to make up symptoms to get telehealth testing referrals; there are sites that will sell you literal à la carte testing menus where you can just check off a CBC+CMP, repro hormone panel, all kindsa weird cancer & immune markers from hs-CRP to CEA, and a doctor just signs off on it all for you print before taking to the testing site.I personally roid with picrel and some of its related compound family, lmao @ smol TRT boomers.
>>77590974Just take dbol and tren. Blood work is for pussieshttps://youtu.be/AtbdRs9U0us
>>77591040I'm nlt claiming they are healthy. And those videos of them bragging about their health is just cope.But I'm saying those proceedures aren't something extraordinary. It's a part of a routine health check and isn't the argument against those videos.
>>77590974>>77590980I swear I once knew a guy at my gym who hopped onto 3 steroids (saw him recently, 10 years later, and he looks 50 btw)You know what he said? He says "Yeah, but sugar is also bad. White bread is also bad". I just don't know how people say things like that.
>>77590974>pro trans>roid tranny
>>77590980Rich was still heavily roiding years after he finished competing. His last comp was 2009.
>>77591717>And those videos of them bragging about their health is just cope.It has nothing to do with "cope".These are "influencers" trying to get you to watch their videos and buy their shitty products.If they told you they got fucked up from some side effect they would lose audience and money.Stop obsessing over youtube actors playing a role and reading a script.
I roid and I fuck 35-55 year old women that I meet at the gymAnd I do it everywhere except for my main gym
