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How good are lateral raises?

Should you be doing them in most routines? Specialized routines? No routines?
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>>77593503
They're good if you like technical controlled lifting. If you like heavy MINDSET! lifting they suck because of having to pay attention to traps taking over. Though there are ways to circumvent that.

They can be replaced by other lifts if you understand the anatomy. You're not gonna have a weird narrow canyon where your lateral delt is if you already train anterior/posterior deltoids.
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>>77593503
>be me, former natty dyel with lame delts
>start spamming lateral raises
>ffw years
>be me, natty semi-dyel with somewhat decent delts
Do what you will with this information
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>>77593503
You gotta do them heavy af. Doing those 10lb raises most guys do does fuck all nothing. Do them heavy af. Get to minimum 30lbs and youll see shoulder size go up
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>>77593503
Was doing OHP, progress was slow. Changed to lateral raises, my shoulders started growing
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>>77593513
>They can be replaced by other lifts
How hard would it be to name them you faggot?
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>>77593892
There's a billion of 'em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGB8U3I1SM
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Seated laterals on an incline bench where you round a bit in the bottom and use a slight bit of momentum to get out of the hole and then lean back onto the bench fully are awesome. Smooths out the strength curve. If you have a good seated lateral machine that's also great.

Also it's kinda gay but try using straps on db laterals. It makes it feel like the db is an extension of your arm instead of something you're holding. Alternatively you can wrap a figure 8 strap around the db and put your forearm through it.
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>>77593514

here is natty delt after 3 years of training. he is 5'8, <170kg, but able to shoulder press 40kg/90lbs dumbbells for reps and does high volume side lateral raises. make sure u don't skip on rear delt for a complete heart shaped delt.
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>>77593513
don't listen to this dude, let your traps take part in the func it's no biggie and anything else is unnatural.
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>>77593519
>>77594000
ok nice conflicting information. is it

low weight, high reps
or
high weight, low reps
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>>77594064
40kg pr, high reps low weight routine is what i heard; hypertrophy
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>>77594000
>natty delt
lol
> 3 years of training
lmao, even
Congrats on the digits, tho.
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>>77594064

shoulder presses? no less than 60 -70lbs if using dumbbells. if using machine, focus more on rom and control.

for raises, it's almost always low weight, higher reps. pick a weight you can do about 20 to begin.

>>77594155
he is certified natty who became a natty ifbb pro. both these guys are @ 5'7-8" and 170lbs, he is literally a girl sized, but believe what you want.
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>>77593503
Is this a real pic?
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>>77594574
yes, why wouldn't it be?
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>>77593896
So name them, bitch
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>>77593632
Same

>>77594064
I get better results going heavy for 8-10 reps, slightly cheating on the last 2 reps
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>>77593519
Is starting with just the bar OK?
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if you case about the side delts, lateral raises are a must

hang in there, keep adding weight as you go, and they will grow
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>>77594064
Why would size building hypertrophy suddenly not work for shoulders? If you want size go heavy just like any other part of the body



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