I have changed from having a 20/100 vision for the last 10 years to a 20/8 vision in 1 month performing a technique that was imparted to me by our lady of Guadalupe in a dream. I've had my vision checked and my vision in confirmed improved and my axial lengthening and astigmatism have reversedI have difficulty explaining the technique, it is almost innate, but it essentially reverses axial elongation and restores the eye to its normal shape, restoring natural vision to its peak.How do I share this miracle with the world without the optometry industry putting 2 bullets in the back of my head?
Real schizo hours
>>77600519Draw us a diagram of how to preform this
>>77600519You can't reverse axial elongation. Once your eye becomes egg shaped from looming too close, it's fucking over
>>77600535Like I said, it is difficult to explain. I'm still trying to figure out how to describe it because it is multiple parts of your body at once as well as a weird blend of conscious effort as well as some aspects of how your eye focuses that require you to know when your eye is "doing its own thing, correct. But I know the technique worked on me. And whats more, it worked despite me having horrible eye hygiene. I work from home so I stare at screens for 8 hours a day at arm's length.>>77600955My Axial length was measure, it was 25mm 2 months ago, and now it is 23mm. >>77600535Optometry is a 70 billion dollar industry in the US. If I reveal a way to naturally deal with the majority of their customer base (my technique only fixes axial elongation myopia which is 80% of optometry patients) then they will kill me bury the miracle the virgin told me to give to the world. I heard the words of Bartimaeus when I was imparted the technique: "Ῥαββουνί ἵνα ἀναβλέψω" in the koine greek, this explicitly means "Master, that I might regain my sight." This is an indication that sight was lost and can be regained, and christ healed it instantly.
>>77601013dont stop keep sharing - even if you don't know how to describe it trying (and us asking) will eventually lead to the aprroximate conclusion
>>77601029The technique requires a complete understanding and control of the occipital muscles along with what I can only describe as feeling the "softened float state." Its a means of getting your eye to reverse the focused state brought on by years of looking at things up close. This is the part I have the most difficulty describing as I just innately feel the parts moving from here on in the technique, and after that part, there come being able to align occipital muscle movements in tandem with how your eye is in the softened float state. You'll know you're doing it right when your eyes naturally cry from the effect of the technique and feel/hear a fleshy popping at the outsides of your eyeball (the parts closest to your ear)What sucks is I am an N of 1 in this. I know I am proof as reversal from 20/100 to 20/8 is impossible in adults. That kind of change is only ever seen in children and its exceedingly rare but usually attributed to developmental grow restoring the eyes' shape. But getting empirical evidence for others is needed and that exposure will make the optometry industry kill me the second phase 1 studies prove my technique as valid. Unless I can get to the Vatican and they accept and internally fund the research to prove this, I don't know how this could get to the public. Especially when its extremely complex to teach others at least at this point.
>>77601055>"softened float state"what do you see? do you mean you are defocusing (everything is becoming blurry because you are "focusing" at the wrong distance closer or further than your actual surroundings)?>when your eyes naturally crydo you mean they become watery?
>>77601063Blurring your vision is after you are able to control your occipital muscles and get into the softened float state. If you just blur your eyes by defocusing, it doesn't do anything because your eye shape is still egg shaped. Without proper understanding and feeling of your occipital muscles you can't properly do anything. Likewise if you can't get your eye into the softened float state, you'll never be able to get it into a way that can gradually change shape back to normal. This is where my personal physical experience is difficult to translate into instruction because I just feel my occipital muscles doing the right way and I don't know how to tell you how I get into the softened float state because its not just defocusing. Its where your eye isn't completely desynced from your other eye but isn't holding anything in its focus while also kinda floating backwards in your eye socket. I don't know how to tell people how I do this because it feel innate.>do you mean they become watery?Yes they become water but its real warm tears, not watery eyes you get from being sleepy or starring at a light too much.The Virgin Mary said that this technique would open the eyes of the entire world so they may see again, so that they might believe.
>>77600519>How do I share this miracle with the world without the optometry industry putting 2 bullets in the back of my head?just post it here right now stupid
>>77601070okay this kinda starts to sound like some ezoteric bs but lets continues anyway - what "floats" and what becomes "soft" in the SFT?also how do youcommand your two eyes independently ("desynced from your other eye")? what do you mean by this? what do you mean by "floating bakcwards in your eyesocket"? is this a proprioceptive experience?
>>77601070Protestants and Orthodox BTFO. catholics giving humanity the Byakugan for free.
>>77601086i know it sounds esoteric but thats the difficulty of explaining something that you just know how to do innately but isn't easily visible. I wish I had 3D X-ray video of me doing the technique so someone could quantify the actions in real terms and mechanism. Like I said, I've been getting everything in terms of results confirmed by my optometrist and ophthalmologist (both of whom look at my 10 years of medical records and me suddenly changing in 1 month as being "one of those rare medical anomalies." I of course didn't share the technique or any of my ramblings about the dream that imparted me this.So what I mean by soften and float is that I go for sort of a 1000 yard stare, not focusing on anything, but not intently trying to blur my vision. Then I just kinda get my eye to float back into the back of my head. I don't know how to explain this as it doesn't involve the occipital muscle movement. I just make my eye "float" backwards slightly. Then when its floating, the eye starts to feel "softer." Once its in the softened float, you can start to very gradually use your occipital muscles to pull eyes in the opposite direction of focus. The eye then, when in movement (walking) will try and align by itself without any input from you the environment (I presume this is just a natural aspect of the brain trying to refine destabilized vision) >how do youcommand your two eyes independently Ok so if you blur your vision on purpose and keep blurring it, you will eventually reach a point where in that blur there will be 2 seperate visions. This is your eyes completely decoupling their unified vision. You can test this with a light source as you can't really see anything for reference in that much of a blur. But if you have a light source at the center of your vision when you start blurring, you will eventually see 2 of the starburst lights in the blur.
ooh boy anon, i know exactly what you mean woth the float state. I have a slight shortsightedness, and sometimes im im this floatstate to relaxe them, especially after abusimg them with too much screemtime, and i always suspected that they could reverse or heal, but i never sticked long enough to it to see any longtime improvementbut thank you for sharing your experiences and insights
Absolutely based thread.
>>77601101It's pure schizo babble. If the vision could be reversed by just doing some exercises it would have been discovered already. We can literally loosen all the muscles around the eye with medications and it doesn't restore your vision at all. There is no way to reverse myopia because it's caused by habits we didn't evolve for. Humans were never meant to look at shit up close for 7+ hours a day. We're meant to scan the area for predators at all times. That's why Amish and rural African people who don't go to school or use computers don't have myopia. They are using their eyes for their intended purpose of looking broadly. They never fuck up their eye shape by looking at schoolwork, computers, or phones.
>>77601096would you agree with the statement "softening the eye is actually the eye muscles relaxing"?also occipital is the back of your head, has nothing to do with your eyes (pic related). the eye has extraocular and intrinsic muscles.>>77601100you should also get in on explaining this technique and experience how to do it>>77601113>bro you can get stiff but stretching wont help you because it is genetics>bro i say upper cross sydrome is not real its genetics>bro I have a phd in physical exercise>bro I am competing bodybuilder bro>bro it is irreversible bro>bro it can only go in one direction bro believe me bro
>>77601143i dont know, its a bit like stopping your focus, but not getting crosseyed. You simply relaxe your eye completely and dont force the focus, and it starts focusing on its ownbut without any straining feel or force. it feels a bit like floating and similar to what op dedcribes. And that feels very good and recovering for the eye. But maybe im completely off and op talks about something completely different
>>77600519Tell them it was DMSO
>>77601113There's obviously more to it than that. I'm 35 and have been on the computer all day long since I was a kid, and before that I was on the tv all day long. My vision is still great, no need for glasses. I know it's not genetics because both my parents and my younger sister need glasses despite none of them being on screens nearly as much as me. It's pretty obvious that I'm doing something differently, although I have no idea what it is.
>>77601150thanks it helps - I believe this is exactly what's going on: extraocular muscles stretch and stiffen the eyeball and relaxing them gives that "floating" and "softening"
>>77601167yes that describes it good, i have generally too much tension on my face all the time, and it seems jjat this is not good for the eye amd too much, by relaxing them completely, you dont actually relaxe everything about the eye, but just the muscles that shouldnt be working on the eye to begin with and form them too strong, but get used as help for focusing for long durations, and you kinda get used to usimg them all the time
>>77601100The float state is just one of the 6 pieces in the technique. You need>Float (inexplicable)>Soften (subjective feeling)>Occipital engagement (completely learnable)>Desynced threshold (completely learnable)>Active "loosening and popping" of eye (inexplicable)>Corrective movement (brain does this automatically if you're at the threshold)All of those factors also have to be done gradually, at all times while awake to get the results I did. All waking hours I was doing the technique, even though I looked like I had Tourettes. It won't "fix" in a day. Its incremental and only "perfect" after a month of doing it all waking hours.>>77601143Softening the eyes isn't exactly relaxing your eyes. Its first getting it to "float" backwards into your eye socket, and then after they have floated for some time you will feel the eye get "soft" relative to how it normally feels in the socket. And you say the occipital muscles have nothing to do but those are the muscles I'm literally working and moving my neck around to complete the technique. Once you are able to get into the softened float state, using your occipital muscles to pull the eyes in the inverse direction of focusing is key. >>77601160Are you saying this is how they'll kill me for revealing this miracle?>>77601150This is the start of it. Getting the float is the first step, but there are multiple moving parts to get aligned. Then once you get them, you have to do them non-stop for a month to reshape the eye gradually over time.
>>77601143You are literally taking this schizo christcuck's hallucinations as something valid? He probably just got LASIK and is lying.
The Catholic church can't stop with the Ws in 2026. I wish there was a way to get you to Rome so the church could confirm your shit internally so they could protect you from eyeball capitalists.I wonder if China and Japan would convert if this is true. Like 99% of their populations have myopia.
>>77601197relax my dude, BigGlasses is not out to get youmusculus occipitalis does not attach to (nor originatefrom) the eyeball (originates from the the superior nuchal line of the occipital bone and from the mastoid process of the temporal and attaches to the the epicranial aponeurosis) so I don't know what you expect from it. M. occipitalis usually moves the scalp - it moves my ears (its funny for others to look at).(Even though PRI talks a lot about the proprioception, vision, the shape of the skull and how unalignment in the body and musculature can deform the skull itself.)How long is the "after they have floated for some time"?How do you use your m. occipitalis?
>>77601202sounds eerily close to what PRI teaches and they are a respectable establishment so yeah, I am interested in learning new things and experimenting
>>77601223Who the fuck is PRI and why are they valid to you? This dude is literally just making up shit after seeing a raghead latina in his dreams because his daddy read him too many Bible stories.
>>77601217Occipital, suboccipital, whichever it is, its the muscles in the back of the neck that I feel that are part of this technique. I have to literally move my neck physically and coordinate the internal straining sensation from what I can only approximate as my occipital muscles by locality as to what is helping to perform the reversal force on my eyes in the opposite direction from focus. Time can vary based on experience. If you know you're in float and you subjectively feel the "softness", and can feel the occipital strain on the eyeball, you can then immediately take a light source and find the threshold for vision desync. The hard part comes from getting to the threshold and then getting to the active "loosening and popping" phase. You are essentially trying to find synthesis between the threshold level of your vision before desync and your normal vision in the float. Your eyes will try and calibrate naturally between them with involuntary blinks. It takes some practice, but once that it well grounded, you can start doing very light movement to get your brain's "compass" of wanting to know where you are you start auto-syncing your vision.Also you say nobody will kill me, but if every guy who makes a water-powered car has been killed, i know that revealing my techinque that is likewise low cost and free for something that is an 80 billion dollar industry just in the US alone will lead me to being ended for messing with their money.I have a duty to give the Virgin's gift to humanity so that they may see and with vision they might believe.
>>77601259google it if you are interested>>77601260still waiting for an approximation: 1 sec, 10 sec, 1 min, 10 min, etc.sounds like you are retraining the vision-proprioception-balance-coordination system which is niceon a side note: water powered cars would need an infinite energy source and afawk there is none. don't believe everything you read on the internet.If you are so inclined to give this gift to humanity you should publish it. Maybe even write a scientific paper. I bet that you can find a curious optalmologist and do a live ultrasound (X-rays do not show soft tissue).Also first you need to be able to find out what this technique is how it works and how you can formulate it properly to be able to actually teach it to others. I would gladly help you in this.
>>77601288I'm all for getting it to the masses so they can regain their vision naturally. Its just how to bridge that gap without getting killed by a 70 billion dollar industry that I would essentially be killing by making this public knowledge. The technique can be taxing.>Timeso it takes about 30 seconds to properly get your eyes to "float" from doing the thousand yard stare to the point you feel them "float" in place. Then while you're in that point, you just have to feel out when it is "softer." At this point it only takes me a few seconds because my eye has been through the rougher part of being axially elongated, but when I first started the technique, it would take a minute or 2 to feel "soft."Once floating and soft, you blur your own vision to the point of desyncing your eyes. The worse your prescription, the harder it is because its a longer distance in mm to get to the point your 2 foci are desync manually. This process can take about a minute to 5 depending on your prescription from my indication.the active "loosening and popping" is where the real work it. It happens over hours. Your eyes constantly working with your occipital muscles to move the eye in the opposite direction of focus is incremental, but you'll notice the results week over week. By 2 weeks i didn't need my glasses to see signs at night anymore. And finally, once you can consistently get your eyes into the active loosening and popping stage, you can start doing small walking movements with anchor points of vision (a light source, a black object constracts by a white background, etc) and get your brain to start automatically trying to sync your vision with your movement. This accelerates everything relative to the slow pace of the loosening and popping phase.All of these aspects were imparted to me as if they were innate knowledge from the Virgin Mary in my dream. Any empirically assessed language I'm using is me just using claude to understand how to describe it.
>>77601095First miracles convince Joe schmid, now we get a miracle for the whole world to cuck Big Glasses, Big Lasik, and Big contacts.Rome can't stop winning
>>77601316>public knowledgeyou can't expect that you will be able to reach "all humanity" - not even the internet (and pcs) was able to do that even though it is with us for 40 years now. so obviously you should expect that you start a special school, a movement, a youtube channel, write ebooks and epamphlets and send them to anyone that is still breathing and hope it sticks. PRI is a phenomenal thing but barely heard anybody of them. Or dynamic remodeling. Niche solutions need time to proliferate and that is completely okay.
>>77601322I'm sorry for my ignorance, but what is >PCS>PRII just don't know what those are and google/claude don't give me anything relevant to vision.Also how can I spread something if it getting empirically proven could put optometrists out of business? It would be nice if I could at least made enough money to be stable off of something as desire and miraculous as this, but the decree by the Virgin was I had to make all of humanity regain their sight so that they might believe from having their sight restored. I'm not looking to be a get rich quick guru praying on peoples desire for better vision, I'm looking to impart something given to me by divine mandate so a world that is.
>>77601132This. Plus eating liver for vitamin A and getting plenty of sunlight into your eyes.
>>77601345PRI is Postural Restoration InstitutePCs are Personal Computers>how can I spread ...very easy: it"s called capitalism! It is a competition and if You have a better product it sure will have demand for it - if You have an adequate marketing that is. I really dislike the idea that money and business is ethically or morally wrong, I think it is really ... myopic. Spreading the news takes effort, costs money and time and if You don't take it seriously it very well can fall into the Abyss because of this supposed ethical, moral highground. Think of it liek this: if You get money (time and effort) from people You successfully helped You can reinvest these resources to help even more people. I don't see anything wrong with that - in fact that's the only reasonable thing to do.Having a mission is blessing but as Dawkins put it: "having an open mind is great but not that open that our brain falls out".
>>77601547optimistic outlooks on capitalism don't help me bridge the empirical testing gap to validate my process further than the N of 1 that is me, much less protect me from the optometry industry from killing me for potentially destroying their entire client base.If i could, i would make a website that is accessible to all with tutoring lessons if I could. I'd only charge $10.51 (as in mark 10:51 which was the lesson I learned to obtain the technique) 5 dollars of every course would go to catholic charities, 5 dollars would go to server maintenance and platform work, and I would only take $0.51 per person doing the course. If I could do get 10% of the 2 billion people (200 million) who have mild myopia that could get results I could do great work for charity in the name of the Virgin Mary with only a small recompense for me, that would be ideal for spreading it across world.
>>77601547>Postural Restoration Institutewhat the fuck does posture have to do with eyes?
>>77601321Catholics are demon worshippers. Baptists are the only real Christians left.This vision OP is getting is likely just Satan tempting him with power
>>77601013Schizophrenia medication should not have an effect on your eyes
>>77601693Paranoid misconceptions won't help You either - in fact, the opposite. Many such cases thati inventions were forgotten because the inventor wouldn't act on his opportunity.As for the website and the price: good idea. Now We getting somewhere. Charities don't do much and those dollars won't go to fulfill Your mission (how is fulfilling Your mission any different from Your idea of a charity?). When You reached that 200 million saturation You can start to think about charity work (the previous part is definitely not going down in the drain).>>77601832maybe read up on that
>>77601055>Unless I can get to the Vatican and they accept and internally fund the research to prove this, I don't know how this could get to the public. Especially when its extremely complex to teach others at least at this point.Just shoot them an email but Catholics are EXTREMELY suspicious of miracles. It probably won't go through.Anyway, sounds like muscle control, just for the eye muscles.It's plausible.
>>77602129Well that is why i'm trying to figure out how to properly study up on optometry to understand the mechanism of action that this miracle is creating, quantify how the technique even works, how to systematize and make it repeatable for other humans to practice, how to get it empirically assessed, and finally, how to do all of that without getting committing suicide by 4 shots to the back of my head for fucking with a 70 billion dollar industry.I feel like given the process is relative quick for individuals with mild myopia like I had (-3 diopters or lower) which is 60% of all myopia sufferers in the world, it has the potential to catch on quickly and disturb a massive industry. Given that I can't just release this carte blanche without just sounding like another guru scamming people for my "method", the only way to legitimize this is empirical study. That process will take 2-5 years, and in that time, someone will notice that I'm standardizing a way to eliminate 80% of optometry's customers for only $10.51. Thats when some corpo at the head of the industry will send someone to kill me and bury any research related to this process.With that context that leaves me in a staged process>1. Figure out how to explain the technique>2. Get the Technique Empirically assessed(this is the stage they kill me)>3. Standardize and make the technique available for low price to maintain server and platform costs so even low income users can access the content in the developed world>4. After 10 years, make the platform open source so that it is available to everyone in the world that has a smartphone or internet connectionBridging the gap between where I am right now only know the technique but being a provable N of 1 for its viability and getting it to the world so that they might see, and the miracle of seeing might make them believe in Christ is vast.
>2026>Still believing in eye exercisesYeah, I'm sure doing 3 sets of schizo scowls daily will get your vision back OP.
>>77602372The act part sounds good. The paranoid part does not. You can't have two opposing views at once:1) it is difficult to reach a significant number of people in a given time2) they will kill me because I am so massive of an influenceI suggest to find a therapist for this (dr. Orion Taraban looks great in this manner).Good luck, Anon. Hope we will hear from You.
>>77600519>I've had my vision checked and my vision in confirmed improvedPost pics of your test results before/after or gtfo
>You'll know you're doing it right when your eyes naturally cry from the effect of the technique and feel/hear a fleshy popping at the outsides of your eyeball (the parts closest to your ear)very interesting thread OP, i will be lurking here, and will screenshot for later.myopic short sighted fuck with astigmatism here too. i get this sometimes when im not wearing glasses and forcing myself to focus text on things far away. not like a knuckle pop, not like an air bubble in your eyelids, but some tissue or something in your eyes or muscle around the eye.i throw youtube on my tv and open the comment section and pause the video. i force myself to get the text “clear” without squinting. it can take a while but once my eyes have focussed it’s like i have near 20:20 vision ahain, but after a blink it’s gone and it needs to refocus. in my meat headed logic: eyes have muscle. muscle can be trained. mine are all tight from looking at screens up close since childhood. ergo, i need to train them to relearn how to focus on things far away again.… but i do this very randomly, im not on a strict routine at all, so my vision is not much better. i have seen tiny improvements but that could just be a good nights sleep, hydration, etc. who knows?would you say pic related is any bit similar? i saved this from /fit/ years ago.
>>77602582no its not the muscles, its the shape of your eye. Axial elongation causes the eye to take an egg shape rather than a sphere, which fucks up your focus. Your muscles straining the eye in 1 direction from focusing too much on close things causes it to take that shape. Doctors say its impossible to reverse because there isn't a way to get the eye back to spherical shape after your eyes have strained it into an egg shape. I'm presuming OP has somehow figured out some way to us different muscles to pull "in the opposite direction of focus" like he says to make your eye spherical again. I don't know how he is doing it because he says he uses his occipital muscles but those don't actually connect to the eyeball, but his concept makes sense in terms of reversing actual myopia.
>>77602582yes this is the idea of todd becker too. he recommends having a slightly off (0.5 or sg like that) pair of glasses and use that for training. regularity is king. (I also have that pic.)>>77602722yeah op is mystical, a little bit of a nut case (resembling saint from the golden age desu) ... I don't see why opthalmologists would say that there is no muscles shaping the eye into an egg form (how the fuck would then the eye get into that shape in the first place?) so no reversal is possible. at the same time other people (opthalmologists) claim the opposite, who knows.
>>77601113Yet those hillbillies and niggers don't have any 20/10 or 20/9 vision.
>>77602765>at the same time other people (opthalmologists) claim the oppositewho are these ophthalmologists claiming myopia is reversible?
>>77602765opthalmologists would confirm that the muscles straining cause the eye to deform into an egg shape. What they reject is that any other muscle movement could reverse the eye back to a spherical shape. Right now, if you use medicine to loosen all the muscles around the eye, it won't stop the eye from being egg shaped. The muscles formed it, now the shape is (supposedly) stuck like that forever as we don't see a mechanism to pull in the opposite direction.Thats why makes OP's statement interesting. He would have solved the entire problem if he could somehow move muscles to reverse the shape change from the focus muscles.>>77602784>20/20 vision is usually genetic in nature.
>>77602765>>77602582how would wearing glasses of lesser power change the shape of the eye? This is dogshit logic. The eye isn't "weak" and needing training, its malformed and needing restructuring to return to its normal shape.
>>77602837>What they reject is that any other muscle movement could reverse the eye back to a spherical shape.They don't really reject it, as much as there has been no real physical therapy that can just do it™You can increase or lower the pressure in the eye, but it doesn't do what you want. We don't really know how the eye adjusts focus if you do something like Palming, or Active Focus as the later myopia cultists term it, mostly due a lack of wanting to do experiments with gear that is hard to access. And based on the work of Otis and Bates and quite a few others, its not as simple as strapping a electrode to a point and just getting it to pulse a little bit, for some period of time. And I guess that would make sense if its a function inside of the eye, where as the 3 angles of rotation on the outside is mendable by electrode.
>>77602840you’re confusing me and naruto posting OP. my eyemaxxing pic uses the logic of>oh you failed to do a deadlift? here use this machine to assist you lifting the weightyour lower back will atrophy, is the logic. as in, using glasses to have clear vision is machine assisted training whereas using the “wrong” opposite glasses forces your eyes to adjust when they arent wearing glasses. and also the barbell analogy of using both hands, where in my pic the guy was on about using an eyepatch to asymmetrically train your eyes. OP is talking about some eyeball relaxing technique he hasnt properly explained yet.
>>77602917yeah but nothing in your system fixes axial elongation. The only way to fix that is if there is some way to stress the eye in the oppose direction of how it was stretched from focusing. I want to know how the fuck OP does that with muscles that aren't even connected to the eyes.
>>77602786yeah I was mistaken todd becker is not an opthalmologist per se (even though seems to be quite knowledgable).>>77602837its worse, according to gemini this is supposed to be a cellular level structural change caused by "outside stimuli" which desu sounds like bsthe focus muscles are inside the eyeball and are stretching the lens.>>77602840well focusing is changing the shape of the lens and that should be reversible. on the eyeshape question I have no answer rn.>>77603072well we have a working theory that muscles attached to the skull can deform it and as the skull so does the eye socket - and muscles attached to the eyeball are originating from the bones of the eyesocket. but claiming that these external muscles play a part in elongating the eye is ... dubious.
>>77603126>according to gemini
Why not just tie weights to your eyelids and do 10 sets of blinks?
>>77601132>>77601521Then why my coworkers who do exactly the same thing for exactly the same time, even longer sometimes, have normal eyesight while mine deteriorates? Look around dumb niggerfaggots, some goy cattle has better eyesight than the other in the same environment. This shit doesn't fucking work.
can someone summarize this dudes stuff, it will show how easily it can be refuted or applied without his illusive flowery language
>>77603803He gave a kind of an overview here>>77601197>You have to get your eyes to "float" by doing a thousand yard stare>You have to feel them get "soft" from doing this>You have engage your occipital musclesNo idea what the the fuck this part means>You have to blur your own vision until your eyes desync and 2 images are visible, then you have to slowly put those 2 images back together>In doing this you will actively feel "loosening and popping" of the eye>You start walking while doing all that shit and somehow your brain starts auto-clearing your visionI think I understand everything except for how the fuck OP has muscles connecting to his eye from the back of his head and how to actively loosen and pop the eye.
Use pinhole glassesDo sungazing and never wear sunglasses
>>77604120>PinholeDoesn't fix your eye shape. Just cheats to focus light
>>77603790Option A:He follows 202020 ruleOption BOr he has not gotten to the optrimist to get new glasses, meaning the next step of degradation do not happenOption CHe has no astigmatism, meaning his vision sharpness is correct, whereas with astigmatism the eye registers the duplicate images of the astigma as sharp.
Is there any merit to what OP is saying it is just Christian LARPing as eyegains?
>>77600519When did /fit/ turn into /x/?
>>77604372You are on a subforum where we argue why one exercises is better than its equal exercise.Where a lot of the foundation is built via pro athlete training programs. Starting Strength is for college freshman and rugby, not for the physically weak....The Norwegian 4x4 requires you to be in extreme physical condition to even practice, over its lower variant HIITMassive amounts of people struggle with the idea that their influences are lying to them over their steroid abuse.We pick our favorite rodent studies for our exotic supplements.
>>77604372What, you don't want gains from Jesus?
>>77604094>inexplicable>inexplicablehe is literately making shit up while posting Naruto images to feel like some sort of a Ninja or some autistic childish shitits fucking crazy how some people tolerated this retarded threadand he is more of a piece of shit, trying to troll people who are dealing with vision problems
>>77603126use Claude next time, it actually pushes back instead of conforming to your views and licking your ass
>>77604094>You have to blur your own vision until your eyes desync and 2 images are visible, then you have to slowly put those 2 images back together>You start walking while doing all that shit and somehow your brain starts auto-clearing your visionI think he is simply doing these 2, which works as an eye exercisewile the rest is made up stuff that his Otaku virgin brain made up
>>77604839So how is he fixing an egg shaped eye by exercising?
>>77604861I don’t think he is fixing the shape, but rather getting his eye muscles stronger and easier to control for focusing better on demand, but once he disengage his eye muscles, his eye will go back to an egg shape (thats where the eye blurring "ability" comes)
>>77604870So OP is full of shit? There is no way to reverse axial elongation into the egg shape? You're just fucked if you ever focused on close shit at school or screens?
>>77604372when the medical community showed they were fraudsters in covid era
>>77604905maybe its just a case of doing the “blurring and letting it auto-refocus” a lot can help? but like, A LOT. people other than OP have said stuff like this before. but you have to be doing it daily for any improvement.
>>77601055>focal bench presses
>>77605398>of doing the “blurring and letting it auto-refocus” a lot can help? but like, A LOTSo what pinhole glasses do
>>77605718Pinhole glasses don't do shit. You're not doing anything to correct your elongated egg-ass eyeball. They literally just cheat by honing the light through a small point to your eye so that it is perfect through the contrasted receptacle.>>77605398Blurring and "auto-focusing" is not gonna do anything. It can at best help to stop ciliary muscle spasms that can worsen your vision, but it can't reshape the eye. You might get 0.25 diopter improvement by stopping cillary muscle spasms brought on by near focus, but you'll never correct myopia that way. Unless someone can figure out how the hell OP is using his goddamn occipital muscles on the back of his skull to "reverse" focus, this is all just hearsay LARP.
You can't fix egg eyes. /fit/ should ban anyone who makes an eye improvement thread. Its all snake oil.
Would Atropine drops work?They are used to slow down and reverse myopia on children by relaxing the eye muscles
>>77604336Nothing is really controversial. Craniosacral, myofascial, facial yoga, accupunture, all these fields have methods for relaxing perpetually tense muscles. Perpetually tense muscles of the head and around the eyes can distort the shape of the eyeball and worsen vision. Correcting the tension should reshape the eyeball and therefore restore vision. Is OPs method replicable? Who knows. It could be a hyper-specific set of multiple muscular imbalances that this method purportedly resolves which wouldn't do anything for somebody else.
>>77606636relaxing muscles doesn't stop your eye from being egg shaped. The muscles have already done the damage by stretching the eye into that shape. You would have to be on non-stop Atropine for months for that to even hypothetically work. You would have to be blind and even then, you're HOPING that having no muscle activity on your eye would allow it to return to its normal spherical shape. >>77606650explain how moving muscles that aren't even connected to the eye could reverse the lateral pulling of the eyeball backwards causing it to become egg shaped.
>>77606666This poster is evil and doesn't want you to have your eyes healed by Jesus
>>77606666>You would have to be on non-stop Atropine for months for that to even hypothetically work. Thats exactly how it works. See children treatment.Though even at standalone drops the effect obliterates nearly all side effects of continuously focusing at close distance>you're HOPING that having no muscle activity on your eye Holy shit you dense. You didnt even read the threadYou DO need such far sighting muscle activity in order to reverse short sighting muscle activity consequences
>>77606701there is no muscle that reverses what the focus muscles do
Sungazing works
>>77603790You haven't actually tried it. It takes months of dedication and consistency, like going to the gym and eating healthy, before you start to see significant results.>Look around dumb niggerfaggots, some goy cattle has better eyesight than the other in the same environment.That's just the nature of reality. Some people have to work harder than others to achieve the same things. You can cry about it or you can put in the work. How much do you value your eyesight? Do you value it enough to try every esoteric healing strategy under the sun? That's the only question that matters.If you're too lazy to put in the work with the Bates method: the bare, BARE minimum that you have to do is get sunlight into your eyes for 10 minutes every day at sunrise and sunset. Do that and you will feel your eyes healing in real time. You won't regain 20/20 vision, but the deterioration you're experiencing will at least slow or stop.
>>77604094>I think I understand everything except for how the fuck OP has muscles connecting to his eye from the back of his headEveryone has muscles that control their eyes. Are you retarded?
>>77606982>It takes months of dedication and consistencyThis is why OP doesn't need to worry about getting whacked by optometrists. Any natural cure that takes persistence and effort is, by nature, unmarketable. People want something they can shove on their face to fix the problem. If the Lady wanted the technique out there, this thread is probably enough. People will try it out and who knows, maybe someone will benefit. Sadly my vision is already perfect but I will give it a shot anyway.
>>77606984OP says he uses his occipital muscles to reverse focus muscle tension. There are no muscles connecting the occipital muscles to the eyeball to do this. This is like saying you used your bicep to strengthen your quad. They aren't even remotely connected
>>77606730explain how getting massive amounts of photons directly into your eye reverses your eye shape being malformed from thousands of hours of looking at things up close with your eye muscles pulling them back
>>77607123I think OP's paranoia is completely rational. The system actively suppresses real solutions to medical problems.But yeah, of course a lot of normies are going to be unwilling to put in the work. There's a reason why most people don't lift or eat healthy.>Sadly my vision is already perfect but I will give it a shot anyway.You're lucky. Cherish your perfect vision and make sure you take care of your eyes. Having bad vision is a debilitating curse.
>>77607221it just does, because i fucking said so