Going to a social event where I will most definitely someone I hate and an ex who fucked me over. Any tips regarding how I should hold myself, barkeep? Shall I just ignore them, briefly acknowledge their existence, or go for the kill?

>>77603170
My willy doesn't work :(

>>77603245
most definitely see*

What am I supposed to do with my weekend after the gym?

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>>77603170
An old fashioned, barkeep.
I'm about an hour away from going to a speed dating event because I think the apps are cancer, inb4 dyelfat, and I'm excited and nervous. Hoping for the best, but what happens happens. I know I got this, I have to.

>>77603245
What action will have you feel better sleeping after the event? Know that the enemy gets a vote and if you come at them shitty, they may cut you right back. If you give a shit what this anon thinks, I think the best revenge is a life lived well, away from the bastards.

>>77603250
Doctor :(

>>77603264
Do you not have other hobbies? I mean, if you are big and stronk from gym, then do sports and mog dyels?

>>77603264
Long distance walking if you got the courage.Bring some money to buy snacks and whatnot. Maybe you will find some interesting event along the way to have some fun. Thats what i do since i have no social media.

>>77603245
They don't exist, if they approach smile say "Hi" and then go back to them not existing. This includes not forcing yourself to appear as if you're having a good time (remain authentic), truly act as if they're not even there unless approached.

I feel as if I have permanently fucked myself for this life. I am a 33 YO KV. Spent my 20s depressed and not thinking I would live this long. Tried to drink myself to death, hit 400 lbs at 25. Now I am 202lbs as of today, been lifting for 7 or so years so decently muscular too. Sadly, I have quite a bit of loose skin. That in combination with my lack of experience just has me feel totally fucked (lol) for life. The loneliness just creeps in when I dont have work / gym / hang outs to distract me.

>>77603279
life is one big open world MMO for you isnt it

I am fucking retarded . I am a 29 year old virgin, I had like 5 opportunities to get laid throughout my life but ruined them due to being awkward and out of shape. I have been on TRT for a year now but have not gained muscle for shit and just feel tired and retarded all the time, and my balls shrank. Sooner or later I will get married and have kids and realize I wasted my entire life.

>Vodka and coke, thanks

>>77603359
Hang in there anon, you've done a good job fixing yourself so far

Today is my birthday and:

1. My wife got upset that I was going to get a drink with friends in the evening (we have two kids, so was planning on going out after spending time with family). Ended up canceling.
2. After I cooked dinner she asked if I would eat the birthday cake. I said no and got yelled at.

Not fun to feel bad for having a birthday.

>>77603452
Happy birthday anon, good luck with your future divorce

>>77603452
1. was she invited
2. women are illogical, but view things like that as rejection of her, she cannot mentally separate the two

>>77603468
Thanks buddy

>>77603507
It was a last minute thing, thought I’d see a couple friends. But no.

>>77603359
>The loneliness just creeps in when I dont have work / gym / hang outs to distract me.
this is the average male experience btw, learn to love solitude, pick up an instrument, get a dog and go for a walk etc.

>be sports referee
>spend all fall refereeing a ton of high school games of a sport
>been reffing it for 5 years and do lots of club games too
>playoffs tomorrow (Saturday)
>don’t get chosen to do any games

I know it’s dramatic but Shit like this is why I never try in my life. Work hard to do well in this, do trainings, learn, discuss with people, etc. and I’m still not good enough. Same thing would happen to everything else in my pathetic life. I’ll probably just go watch the games in person and sulk and ruminate while there.

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>>77603170
anyone here left the rat race? how did you do it?

>>77603599
Nta but yeah. I guess it’s semi normal these days? I love being alone. No one’s drama, no pissing contests, no bitches annoying or stressing me out just to get enough sex to keep me on the hook. A chill bro to hang with on occasion would be nice but I don’t mind it that much. I can do whatever I want. If I wanna spend the day alternating between video games and doom scrolling every 30 minutes I can do that. If I want to go do something active and outside I can do that. It’s all about what I want. I remember in my 20s I would feel hollowed and super alone if I didn’t see anyone for a week. I haven’t had a night like that in years.
>>77603642
I wish I could be more positive but I don’t disagree. It’s been the same pattern for me
>grind absolute dick and ass to get good
>become one of the best
>legit make the thing my whole life
>someone relatively new with about 1/16th the competence and skill gets chosen instead, held to a lower standard as they fuck up constantly
>none of my work was noticed but after that when I stop giving as much of a fuck and just do the bare minimum (still better than most) suddenly it’s noticed and I’m deemed as lazy
It’s retarded. It’s demoralizing into other stuff like personal stuff outside of work. I do the absolute bare minimum in all jobs now. I had like 7 years of that shit across multiple jobs. Shit they’ll do that then question why you’re leaving and genuinely seem perplexed about it. Which btw is the time to call them out on the shit. “You should have given me that raise/promotion I will stay if you increase my pay by this much” and then ghost them if they contact you caving maybe you stay if they don’t you won anyways

>>77603359
You have everything you need to be content alone.
>>77603433
>virgin
you're not missing out.
>>77603642
Have you tried asking why you weren't chosen? Or actively volunteer?

>>77603804
Get out of STEM

>>77603170
Has autism severely fucked anyone else over with work?
Obviously there’s the usual outcasting but I’m talking about ridiculous situations that shouldn’t be happening. Best way I can describe it is with some examples from the past
>start job, quickly make manager because good at it and was new company still hiring people
>girl my age (mid 20s) on other team gets small promotion for the sake of firing that teams manager & diverting his work to keep costs down
>one of her roles is to check in on other teams, sort of code compliance
>keeps texting me about unrelated stuff, keeps contacting me about everything knowing damn well I’m generally seen as the best manager in the company always on top of everything, she goes overboard with it
>will randomly contact me outside of hours about work
>tries to make small talk about fitness then insinuate idk what she’s talking about stupid shit like this
>starts bragging about how she does this class for the new hires on a different team to get them up to speed (PowerPoint with like 15 slides and some 5 minute hands on training)
>reply to one of her random mid day texts asking if one of my new hires can sit in on the class because I’m busy setting up 2 new locations while also having to work at a 3rd and 4th each day
>no response, hour later I’m in a group chat with her boss and the HR thot and her getting grilled and questioned about why I was texting her (btw i never gave her my number) and what exactly I was asking for from her with weird undertones like I was doing something wrong without any blatant accusation though
Shit like that. Idk what I did wrong to this day. She was the one up my ass. It doesn’t have to be anything with a female or HR issues necessarily just all around ridiculous stuff where I didn’t do shit to anyone but get treated like I’ve done wrong where, at least to me, I was just trying to work

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I need some genuine advice, I haven't worked out in 2 years because I fell into a deep fucking depression after I found out my girlfriend at the time had been cheating, lying and manipulating me during our entire relationship. People usually get over this stuff but for me I feel my whole fucking world just collapsed after that, I dabbled with drugs and alcohol for a little while to help me cope, but that just made it all worse in the long run and I haven't been able to recover.
Pretty much all my muscles are gone, I have no energy or appetite to do anything anymore let alone go to the gym. I can't perform well at my job anymore and my confidence is so bad that I can't stand seeing my naked body in the mirror anymore, I'm so fucking skinny I look like an old malnourished man and I'm physically and mentally weak as fuck. I've tried many times to get back into lifting but I just can't fucking do it, I do it for maybe a week or two then it's like I hit a wall, even just doing light stuff. I'm seeing a psychologist but it just doesn't do anything outside finding out that I genuinely have the 'tism. I've been on a few different antidepressants but that just makes me numb, only good that is that I get my appetite back.

I need genuine help

>>77603905
sorry about the typos and shit, I had a terrible nights sleep and my brain fog is really bad

>>77603874
Why do they let retarded work unsupervised

>>77603905
>>77603907
Just do it bro, it is the only way.

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girl i know and me are dating someone new but we secretly love eachother but we can't together due personality difference and it's killing me inside

>>77603914
shut up, dipshit
>>77603874
you need to get aggressive and tell them all to knock it off. you did nothing wrong, she was texting you. end of fucking story.

I hate my life

Is there an antidepressant that works? And preferably doesn't nuke your libido

>>77603967
Yeah, it's called not being a pussy

>>77603937
I no longer work there but I don’t think that’s the right action unless I specifically get accused of something. Even then being aggressive, even in response to greater aggression, fucks you over with these people it turns into their word against yours and you’re the one accused of something which plays against you. These are normies. They lack souls and a conscience and any meaningful self awareness. They would use that to claim you’re an unhinged freak who’s a danger to the people in the company.
I just wish I understood WHY I seem to occasionally get into these situations at jobs where all I’ve done is show up, wind up being harassed or mistreated and then end up being the one in trouble for it anyways. Well, I guess at that point may as well get aggressive maybe you are right. It seems like there’s no winning. Doesn’t matter if I politic, if I just show up and keep my head down and stay quiet doesn’t matter what I do this shit inevitably happens at some point. Never had this problem at jobs where the majority of workers and leadership are white men btw. I may have to submit the autism in future new jobs onboarding info just to preemptively protect myself.

>>77604003
If it keeps on happening then maybe, just maybe you're the problem.

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Which lifts fix hearing loss and tinnitus

I'm pretty sure if I walked up to Greek höes with my 8 incher back in antiquity they would have fainted

>>77603967
Deal with life naturally like the rest of us nerd

>>77603967
meth

>>77603264
>What am I supposed to do with my weekend after the gym?
Stretch very well so don't feel sore. And wait 20 minutes so you can shower.
Prepare a very healthy meal.
Read a book, comic book, children's book.
Listen to good music
Watch funny videos and look up funny memes
See if there's any social events in your area.
Watch a couple old movies or tv series.

>>77603935
So you guys are being retarded and basically wasting other people's times. Wtf just stay single. Ffs.

>>77604178
*adderall and Vyvanse

Want to have a long-term relationship. But also want a harem. What do?

>>77603905
The other anon is right. "Just do it" sounds like shit advice but it isnt. When you have depression it feels like you have no energy to do anything, but you'll find that if you force yourself to do it the energy will come as a result. Makes no sense on paper but I promise you it works.

>feel like shit
>dont have energy to do anything
>dont do anything
>feel shame and guilt over inability to do anything
>feel even worse
>rinse repeat
Or
>force yourself to do it anyway
>still feel like shit
>but the shame and guilt is ever so slightly reduced because you at least accomplished something
>gets a little bit easier each time

Just pick 1 exercise and do 1 set. That's all you have to do. Over time you can add to it, but right now your primary goal is a mental exercise. You need to force yourself to accomplish tasks despite your internal voice telling you not to because its pointless. It may feel like you've done almost nothing, and your internal voice will tell you that it is nothing and that you're just wasting your time, but all that is is the self pity spiral trying to perpetuate itself. And the easiest way to get that part of you to shut the fuck up is to just do things when every part of you is telling you not to. Its not easy and youll have days where you feel like youre regressing, but all trends have their hills and valleys. The important part is the overall trend line. If youre doing more today that you were yesterday, that alone is enough.

As someone with depression, let me tell you that forever searching and hoping that the fog will lift will always leave you disappointed when that never comes. Its likely why you turn to drugs or alcohol since you need some form of escapism rather than dealing with the reality of the situation. But as Im sure you know reality always finds a way to come back to you with a vengeance. So you have to learn to live and lift in the fog anyway.

>>77604003
>doesn’t happen with white people
So you work with retarded subhuman nigs
>trying to apply logic to literal retards
Stop doing this, it is literally retarded

>>77603914
>>77603970
>>77604059
Samefag btw. He always comes into these threads and tries to start shit with everybody.

Animal flesh eaters are the dumbest fucking niggers in the world, holy shit, we need another world war to get rid of these fucking faggots.

I'm starting to dislike my childhood friends but I don't want to

>>77604286
I cut off with them after highschool, why haven’t you?

>>77604305
Because they're my only friends (outside of work but work doesn't count) and once they're gone I will truly be completely isolated. I mean I already barely talk to them but still.

>>77604356
You gotta be careful at times. A lot of my childhood friends backstabbed me. I just made new ones

>>77603642
Outcome independence is king. Dont let outcomes hold you emotionally hostage. Also >>77603846, have you tried asking why? or is it more of a clique social thing who gets picked, but even that is feedback, maybe you need to work on charisma

>>77603804
High paying careers or entrepreneurship.
High paying careers you want to switch over to contracts and freelancing ASAP with a proven track record, you can pick up 2-3 contracts, work them 6-8 months at six figures, and then take 6-4 months off. Entrepreneurship start as a side hustle, dedicate and hour a day to drawing it out, consistency and drive daily over a long period of time before you can jump from your day job to your business. These are the two paths, besides gambling which the odds are even more stacked against you.

>>77603599
>>77603835
Fundamentally life is about people. The highest good is good times WITH good people you love. And also being there during hard times for those same people. We all need community. Modernity however has killed the community or rather its in its final stages. People are online for the large majority of the day, everyone is leaning towards solipsistic ways of being. Being driven apart, individualistic divide. This makes it genuinely difficult to find genuinely good people and not backstabbing weirdos, hedonists, or just extroverts who need people 24/7 to function.

The number one aim for anons like these is to go outside, spend time in hobbies, sports or interest groups, and finding a community, and if they cannot find it, to build it themselves and be the glue between different people. Learning acceptance with solitude, and a strong unshakable self center is key to this, you will become magnetic.

On Day 7 of NNN

Hit biceps and back today and I'm honestly impressed with how much I lifted. I bicep curled 65s for the first time and managed to do 6 reps of wide grip pull ups with a 45 lb weight.
Downside is I can't smoke weed because that shit raises my libido too much and I have a fogged up mind so I'll 100% give into my urges if I do.

>>77604286
This might be inevitable, the things that bind you together in childhood are usually things like proximity and school, things outside of your control. Dont have to cut them off, keep things on good terms but start looking for new connections outside of them

>>77604494
>Downside is I can't smoke weed because that shit raises my libido too much and I have a fogged up mind so I'll 100% give into my urges if I do.
subtances in general lower inhibitions, best avoided desu, take note how you feel/your headspace at the end of the month, thats what clarity feels like

>>77604511
Unfortunately thats a huge downside for me. Since I broke up with my gf I've been spending Fridays and Saturday nights stoned and watching movie or listening to music. Since I can't touch weed I went back to alcohol (Just two drinks) but I know that shit isn't healthy either.

Only way for me to kick this is to find someone else but thats a challenge of itself

>>77604521
>Only way for me to kick this is to find someone else
Im one of two ways about this, I wouldnt want to be co-dependant to the point I would NEED someone there to function at my best, but I also know not sleeping around but finding one cool girl I genuinely like and having a FWB situation going on makes moving on infinitely smoother

>>77603170
I can't go out on weekends because 1) no friends 2) I don't drink anymore 3) I want to be married to her the next time I sleep with someone. Thinking I'm cooked brehs.

>>77604542
>3) I want to be married to her the next time I sleep with someone.
mission impossible in this generation, better luck in more traditionally minded countries, especially if you moved there with wealth

>>77604542
>I want to be married to her the next time I sleep with someone.
got to move to Afghanistan or something like that then

gonna call in sick next week and drink for like 4-5 days straight

>>77604555
I don't really understand how you can look at the current state of things and then scoff at values

>>77603905
When I was in depression I had to force myself to exercise for two weeks before feeling slightly better. If I stopped exercising three times a week, it would last two weeks and then I would have to start all over. After a couple of these cycles I decided I couldn't stop more than one week at worst. Everytime I would have to gather all my strength to start a session, it often took more time than the session itself. But I stuck to it. After a couple months I got hungrier and ate more. Then a couple months later people started noticing. Self confidence got better. A couple years and a few therapists later I started to feel better. Found a job, found a better job and now I don't even have to exercise to feel ok. I wouldn't have bettered my self-confidence without the last (and only good) therapist. Try your best to start and stick to it. For the best.

>>77604274
You are extremely insecure

>have cuddles and sex with girl
>try hit her up during the days away
>she is bland as fuck and never text me first
she's cheating right or i'm a backburner?

>>77604715
You aren't dating, so how is she cheating? You sound like a beta.

>>77604715
Both.

>>77604231
polygamy

I bought a car but I don't really like it. I'm never really happy with anything

>>77604718
>>77604715
"Winning chads" in 2026 are completely indistinguishable from swingers, its so over

>>77604231
Date a bi-chick, let her invite women into the bedroom

>>77603170
Put the couch together, added the coffee table and end table... I'm just mentally tired. I should go for a walk but I dont want to. It'll rain soon... i should lift then since i have weights, but then ill get sweaty and I dont want to.

>>77604715
Women hold all the power until you have had sex, then the power shifts, you're not meant to text them after the "I had a great time" text, let them come to you

>>77604506
>the things that bind you together in childhood are usually things like proximity and school
No not really, proximity yeah but we still find time to hang out. It's hard to put into words but it's more like we've known each other for over a decade and we've all seen each other's lowest points, but they still judge me by mine. They still bring up the things I've did and said many years ago which I would never do again meanwhile I have so much shit I could hold over their heads but I don't because I don't want to get into pointless arguments about the past. I guess the entire thing boils down to that they know me too well, they know too much about me.

There's also some petty passive aggressive shit they ocassionally say but I can't call it out because then I will look like the asshole who can't take a "joke"

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My best friend ghosted me after I moved. Tomorrow is his birthday and I want to text him again.
Hand me some pineapple juice please

>>77604948
>we've all seen each other's lowest points, but they still judge me by mine. They still bring up the things I've did and said many years ago which I would never do again meanwhile I have so much shit I could hold over their heads but I don't because I don't want to get into pointless arguments about the past.
Seems like you recognize you wouldn't hold it over them because it's harmful to who they want to become yet they're more than willing to do that to you, could be crabs in a bucket mentality, not wanting you to out grow them. Normal joking here and there in good sport is healthy, but if it's coming from a place of resentment or ego checking you, it's time to put your time elsewhere

>>77603170
this guy made fun of me when i started my fitness journey and he fucked up his back doing some exercise. he posted about it on his instagram, called him a fag now like three guys are telling me im a piece of shit and that they’re going to kick my ass if they see me. am i in the wrong?

>>77603250
Maybe you're gay?

>>77603170
Going out with some goth chick i met at smoothie king in about an hour. I hope she's a whore.

>>77604990
>am i in the wrong?
Yes but not because of what you said but you should have known better that nothing good would have come from saying it. You know the typical victim gets in trouble instead of bully cliche
but in reality they will most likely do nothing because they're pussies irl

Hitler would have been successful on Furaffinity in our modern times but you guys aren't ready to have that conversation

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Damn, saturday over already?

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Was at museums this week.
At art museum first time ever person walked up to me and talked. I have been going saturdays for months now multiple locations different countries. Very nice and cool dude but turned out he volunteer for his studies. Well rip nice convo im talking more to pretty woman and its great conversation skill exercise. Im doing better and less autistic.
Question at gym twice i was at squatrack and you had lady 30-40 behind me working out. It was only free one and u have mirror front of me so i can see whats behind me. When i left she was flat on ground stretching her hips yoga leggings. Friday she was there again and when doing deadlifts she was stretching split style and when doing OHP she was cat/cow poses rocking front and backwards ass showing. I cant help but look pherapal vision. Gave me 15% test boost though. Was she flirting or am i being weird

I have achieved low tier normiedom, fuck yes WAGMI

>34 year old virgin never dated loser incel who barely even talks to people anymore
>have positive interactions with a pretty girl who is probably 10 years younger than me at a hobby activity we do
>not even flirting or anything like that, just talk to each other on occasion and make eye contact in close proximity while doing so, sometimes she smiles
>feel awkward even doing this, feel like I shouldn’t be interacting with her because I’m an ugly loser cretin
It’s crazy how there are “men” who can get to this point of pathetic. Imagine reading something like this and thinking this guy would be prepared to even go in a date with someone let alone be married

>>77605382
>was she flirting or am I being weird
Both, probably.

You'll probably fuck this up, but make a point of seeking out harmless eye contact sometime while you're both resting or whatever. Just "scanning the gym idly between sets and happened to land on her". Then, as though you suddenly realize what you're looking at, smile and look away. Or same deal when passing each other walking around.

Entirely possible she doesn't know you exist. Entirely possible she's just as much a sperg as you are and this is her trying her hardest because she thinks you're cute. Either way, seems like you have opportunity to slowly build rapport as "fellow gym goers" if you can just not weird her out.

>>77603170
Are people getting less intelligent or am I becoming less patient and noticing it more often as I get older?
>steel ball run recent episode
>ep literally explains “moverer crus” is latin multiple times during episode
>people keep asking what language it is
>people hung up on the stand telling a crippled Johnny to “move his legs” not realizing the point isn’t literally move your legs but to keep pushing forward and metaphorically move past and overcome difficult situations
>episode has huge highlight on him feeling changed and purposeful again references how he went from being a somebody to a no one and now feels like a someone again
Yeah anime whatever but this isn’t anything super deep or hard to get it’s so blatant and people aren’t following it. Heck his “stand” quite literally grows and changes over time as he does and people think it’s saying “go for a walk and a jog young crippled man” the entire point of the anime, or at least a huge central theme, is about growth and moving forward in life and finding a purpose it’s a core point and theme across multiple characters which is mentioned pretty frequently. I’m not saying this to discuss anime I just wanna know other anons thoughts on my question. I’ll interact with people at work and out running errands or just wherever and I’m having this realization so frequently I’m beginning to wonder if IM the problem. Like there’s no way the average person is THIS dumb

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>>77603245
woman master bait to passive aggression they read romance novels like its porn the books are only missing a vibrating binder and most people don't even know what it is not even woman but dont attack unless you can explain in novel length passive aggressive acts which you wont and youll look like the assholes and at best most people will know something happened to you just not exactly what while she figure skates and master baits

the tinnitus is unbearable today

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Noob gainz rolling, im pleased

>>77605569
Movies and shows nowadays are made for people who keep checking their phone every 5 minutes, hence they always repeat shit and spell everything out. Even then, some people are still too stupid or just don't pay attention.

>On Day 8 of NNN
>Did Pull Day (Biceps+Back not my wanker) on Saturday and Push day this morning
>Had so much energy I achieved a new PR on my bench (265) & bicep curled 65s for reps
>Still full of energy afterwards

Im kinda fearful though this energy will fade away as my peak test fades out after the 1 week mark although I'm still pushing forward with NNN

My dick saved a marriage. Fucked the ex to not have her go after the guy her husband is super jealous over.

>>77604219
Which is also meth, but better

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>>77605650
with results like that you should wear a chastity cage full time

>>77605645
Why are people obsessed with sharing pictures people send to them in private? What if she posted your pictures?

>>77605703
Why every time a woman jumps to do a shot their leg bends

A lager, please.

This year has been the hardest of my professional life. I think it's changed me for the worse. The only emotions I feel are anger, annoyance, or numbness. None of it makes sense because I have a life most people are envious for: hot wife, respected job that pays well, an apartment in a nice city. I just don't know what happened to me over the course of this year to make me like this, but I worry there's no going back.

>>77605888
life sounds so hard for you

>>77605891
My line of work comes with a lot of baggage, so yeah I think it is.

>>77605888
>None of it makes sense because I have a life most people are envious for

In this world there are only two tragedies. One is not getting what you want, and the other is getting it.

>>77605888
Grow up fag

>>77605897
pilot?

>>77606076
kek

>>77606076
this one went over my head

>>77606148
How would you know that. do u track his flights or something

I wasted 10 dollars on supper, and it turned out inedible. It's fucking OVER for me. Now I'm eating an entire pumpkin pie, missing all my nutritional goals.

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>>77603170
How Emotions Impact Your Physical Health

>>77606316
>Anger messes with your liver
Explains why I get hammered so easily

>>77606282
That's cheap these days

>>77605569
The majority of people are genuinely retarded and can't think for themselves
The term goyim is correct. People are cattle and need to be kept in line through something like authority or organized religion.
Giving everybody easy access to the internet was one of the worst things to happen to modern society, especially now that AI is involved. They think it's some all knowing magical crystal ball and if you go on facebook these dumbass boomers take a screenshot of the google AI result and think they win the argument.

But really you can't blame the people for being stupid. You don't blame an obese dog, you blame the owner.

Bros. I'm 30 and I'm having a 19yo coming home today to watch a film. We have just been a little bit touchy and stuff but nothing blatant and we've been "friends" for a while now. I'm almost sure she's a Virgin, I'm not really sure what actions to take. I kind of want to be at least a bit proactive but while I kind of sense that she's into I'm not really sure. I don't know if she's ever expecting me to do something or just wants to hang out as friends. Should I just vibe it out? Any advice?

>>77606607
Leave her alone and let her have her first time with someone her own age

>>77606610
Shalom rabbi. Why should I do that if she wants to?

>>77603170
water burns fat, do not listen to the retards on this site.
>BULK then shred
youll just get fat. slow n steady wins the race.

>>77606617
Be the mature adult that you should be and reject her? I have been seeing a bunch of guys here go after the youngest girls legally possible and I wonder if it’s because they’re so naive they’re easier to convince than women closer to your age

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>>77603170
What should I do for my 24th birthday

>>77606634
Do you have irl friends?

>>77606630
I'm also seeing someone almost 30 so it's not that I prefer one age or the other. I haven't been "going after" this girl it really just happened.

>be the mature adult
Just for the fun of it, why is rejecting her the mature thing to do?

>>77606638
>I'm also seeing someone almost 30 so it's not that I prefer one age or the other.
Does she know you’re trying to fuck other women?

>Just for the fun of it, why is rejecting her the mature thing to do?
But do you just do things for the fun of it? You never think of how your actions might affect other people? Do you ever try to control yourself or are you always guided by what seems to be the most fun thing to do?

>>77606630
>no no stop going after the girls that haven't been completely indoctrinated and broken in college! THOSE are the girls you should go after, the ones that are already used and abused!

You sound like a jackass. If I had two water bottles and forced you to choose one would you choose
>the water bottle that 10 people have drunk out of already
OR
>the unopened brand new water bottle

Exactly.

>>77606651
Who gives a damn about someone’s body count if it’s just a one night stand. I would only take your argument seriously if you were planning to have a long term relationship with the girl but for a pump and dump you wanna get all uppity about her purity?

>>77606634
It's your birthday homie, do something you want to do, treat yourself

>>77606659
I'm not this anon>>77606651

>>77606640
She doesn't know no.
And no I'm not an hedonist, to be honest sex isn't even the first thing on my mind with this girl. I just want to be a bit close to her and maybe kiss her if I get the chance. I just feel good being around her sometimes. I know this won't ever become something serious or whatever but yeah, for some reason I got the chance falling on my lap, I was just wondering what to do

>>77606670
You should sleep with her, make her your girlfriend, marry her and have 5 kids

>>77606670
How about don’t be a cheater? You could also tell the girl you’re seeing that you want to explore something with another woman too and see if she’s okay with it. If you wanna cheat, don’t get mad when it happens to you as well

>>77606637
Yeah, they threw a party already but my real birthday is still a week away...

>>77606690
Alright then what’s your favourite thing to do? Do you like going out alone? I enjoy going to the theatre and restaurants alone for example. Maybe you can treat yourself to a fancy restaurant.

>>77606678
He’s not gonna do any of that shit, he’s just infatuated with her cause she gives him attention. Once they fuck, he’ll lose all interest and go back to his other situationship.

>>77606697
Restaurant sounds nice. Sometimes I get that lonely feeling when I go but less now than before. Man my favorite thing to do? That's a hard question. It's probably walking to the country club gym my dad used to go to. Maybe I'll sneak in the gym...Thanks for the ideas

>>77606702
Enjoy your birthday!

>>77606681
Oh the girl I'm already seeing is super ok with it. She's one of those open-minded ones.

>>77606678
Sounds like a little bit too much bro. Having kids in this economy? Fuck

>>77606699
Not infatuated, just thinking of leaning forward to drink the water that the heavens have bestowed upon me. If something ever happens. She might cancel at the last minute and shit

>>77606724
>She might cancel at the last minute and shit
I hope she does for her sake, losing your virginity to someone who doesn’t actually give a crap about you sucks. I hope you’re not leading her on believing that you want a relationship with her.

>>77606728
Well I do give a crap about her, it's not that I want to use her. I value her as a person. Not in the I'm going to marry you and give you kids and live with you forever sort of way but I want to treat her right you know. I'm not a monster. Why do you assume so many insulting things about me? You sound like a woman yourself

>>77606736
>Well I do give a crap about her, it's not that I want to use her. I value her as a person. Not in the I'm going to marry you and give you kids and live with you forever sort of way but I want to treat her right you know.
If what you say is true then I suppose it’s fine then
>I'm not a monster. Why do you assume so many insulting things about me?
Because you’re on 4chan? The worst of the worst are on here

>>77606749
Yeah for many many life reasons it's not like I want or am capable of having a super serious thing right now but yeah. But you didn't answer my question. Given that you're a foid, how do I do this, do I grab her hand and go from there? What's your take

>>77606754
>What's your take
if you cant read body language youre fucked anyway, nta btw

>>77606754
>Yeah for many many life reasons it's not like I want or am capable of having a super serious thing right now but yeah.
Dude you’re like 30 years old, how long do you need to get into a serious relationship? I have an uncle like you. Until his late 40’s, he was a giant womanizer. Then his body started sagging and he started balding and all his options started drying up. Now he’s online dating Vietnamese and Filipinas girls younger than his 20 something year old daughter. And no, I will not help you hook up with this girl. Do it yourself. I will say that you should let her take initiative if you insist on this so you know she actually wants to do this.

>>77606368
I don't disagree, but I am a little shit who doesn't like wasting money. I had other options, but wanted to try something new. Bad pasta sauce. I normally drink a load of a milk for supper.

>>77606755
I'm kind of a moron sometimes

>>77606757
Well sis, I did try the serious and geting married thing. That time I found myself being psychologically abused and dependent of a girl that had profound mental issues and probably a bipolar disorder. I lived together with her for some months and one day out of the blue she basically told me to fuck off and went to live on the street. She changed her mind after a couple of hours and let me live with her for a month more but I was already severely traumatized by that point. I know this only in retrospect, at the time I thought this was "normal" and the only thing I could aspire to. I was a hopeless fuck, i was ready to marry her and live with her and thought that was my last chance. After that, thank jesus, I met this other girl I've been with for a year and she gave me lots of hope in the world and in humans in general. But still, to think of actually committing and shit is kind of difficult for me for the aforementioned stuff. Also my material situation is very flimsy, I know I'll have to move countries pretty soon so it's kind of dumb to engage into something long term for now. But yeah maybe when I finally settle down somewhere I would probably want to think of having kids, so there. I finished justifying myself to strangers on the internet

>dating Vietnamese and Filipinas girls younger than his 20 something year old daughter
Nice
>And no, I will not help you hook up with this girl
You hag.

>>77606778
>Nice
>nice that the only women who will date him are foreign women who think he’s their ticket to getting citizenship of a first world country.
>You hag.
Well at least I don’t stay with people who fuck me up for years. I know when to leave lmao

>>77606778
>That time I found myself being psychologically abused and dependent of a girl that had profound mental issues and probably a bipolar disorder.
so you cant read body language, and you cant tell crazy when you see it, bro you're in for a hard life

>>77606788
>>77606799
Well I'm learning and growing. Now I wouldn't get into an abusive relationship I feel

>>77606801
I take what I said back. That was pretty low of me to say so I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish an abusive relationship on anyone. I’ve heard that victims of abusive relationships feel like they can’t leave their abusers, did you feel like that too?

>>77606808
It's ok sis.
>did you feel like that too?
Yes absolutely, as I said I felt that if I lost her I would be alone the rest of my life. I got myself into this hopeless mindset in which I absolutely depended on her even though on retrospect I knew that I was doing everything to please her and not to inconvenience her because I felt she was "fragile" so I had to walk on eggshells in order for her not to explode. Also I had to suppress many parts of my personality and interests because there was no actual space for me. And it wasn't even explosions, thats the scary part, it was that the changes were so sudden, one minute we were laughing and having fun and I would go to the bathroom 3 mins and come back to find her with cold eyes as if she didn't even see me as a human. It was kind of scary. And all of this while telling me everyday that she lives me and that I'm the live of her life. I do a very shitty job at painting the whole situation but it was psychologically very shitty for me.

If I hadn't found this other girl I would probably still be there suffering. So yeah, treat people humanly even if they're just one night stands biys and girls

>>77606822
>I do a very shitty job at painting the whole situation but it was psychologically very shitty for me.
That’s okay, you don’t have to explain it. Do you feel like now you know when to leave?

>>77605382
>Was she flirting or am i being weird
She either was or wasn't flirting, no way to be sure unless she comes over and tells you she likes you. Don't approach some, it's NGMI energy. You're the prize, don't diminish that by suggesting you're lesser than her with a, "Would you go out with me?" Of course she would, bit she's got to initiate, it's the only way to be sure she is emotionally mature

>>77606841
Yeah I feel. I mostly know what I don't want/refuse to accept and being seen as a human is a very important thing in a relationship for me now. I refuse to be seen as just a husk. I would rather be alone desu famalam.

>>77606852
Did you ever tell your family what happened to you?

>>77606856
A bit but not that detailed actually. I told them that it didn't work out after the fact. Should I tell them?

>>77604557
Sounds like a bad idea. Keep us posted.

>>77605383
Define that

>>77605675
Didn’t take, she’s still thinking about it. Anons, when a woman says she’s done, even if she’s had five orgasms and squirted, she’s not done, keep going. God fucking dammit.

>>77606870
It might be a good idea to tell them desu. But only if you feel comfortable doing so. Don’t force yourself

>>77606870
>>77607080
NTA. Careful, abused-anon. Weigh heavily what you think your family's reaction will be before you give them this thing they could use against you. This femoid is giving advice that would be good for someone with a healthy family situation, but I somehow doubt that's you.

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I'll have a thing of virgin and sour, barkeep

I've done it again guys, been dating a former highschool classmate for a month now and started developing these mf feelings and shit
>taking it slow and not rushing it for the first time ever (at her request)
>got to 2. base now on the seventh date
>me still giddy as teenage girl thinking about meeting her again
I don't know what to make of this, have burned myself a bunch of times before by catching feels quickly and scaring the hoes that way. She seems into it though, I suspect we're in the same boat.
What do you do to play it cool, bros?

>>77607279
Let her say ILY first, no matter what. After that, there's no playing it cool anymore.

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>>77607279
> got to 2. base now on the seventh date

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Saw my ex-gf at an event over the weekend. I just ignored her/pretended I didn't notice her. I was with some friends and ended up staying out until about 2am getting shitfaced.
I woke up the next morning feeling like I'd been shot in the stomach, it was like everything suddenly hit me at once and all I wanted was for her to hold me.
I lost my father to cancer in last year, then she left me saying she was in love with a married man she had a fling with three years ago, then August this year my brother died.
I thought I was over her, in fact I thought I hated her and never wanted to see her ever again. Now all I want is for us to be together again and continue our plans of living together and eventually having children (she had chosen all the names.)
I have a lot of women interested in me but I just can't muster the effort to get involved with anyone at the moment.
Should I message my ex telling her about my brother and how I feel about her, or just keep going and hopefully forget about her one day?
I cried for an entire day about my dad, my brother and her. It was pretty crazy.

>>77608021
You shouldn't get back together with her or even talk to her again. But over all it sounds like you don't want her you want that familiar feeling of intimacy. Let yourself grieve and take your time. Reaching out to her won't help anything. I know it hurts now but it'll be better than going back to her.

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>>77608021
Fuck no. You are not on that timeline anymore. That future never existed. You're mourning an imagined future (one she never actually shared, it was entirely YOUR vision.) This festering emotional weakness is what probably drove her away from you. Fix yourself first.

>>77608021
>I lost my father to cancer in last year
Pfizer or Moderns?

>>77606943
Seems good, dude is blocked and she said if she starts feeling crazy again she’ll just come over so I can talk her out of it

>>77608021
Why'd you break up?

>>77608532
Aaand now I’m realising that I no longer care if her marriage survives and I just want to fuck.
Fuck.

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>>77607323
Yeah that's my plan, worked beautifully with earlier relationships

>>77607894
see pic related

>>77608636
If I'm reading you right, she's already cheating with you. So obviously her marriage isn't going to last anyway.

>>77608658
They’re like soft swinging or something, dude is only jealous of one person who is rich, has a massive cock and shit. I mean, if this came out they’d probably split or maybe not, who knows. But if she even saw that other dude, splitsville for sure.

>>77605888
>wahhh i have it all and im upset wahhh

kys fag

>>77608021
Do not reach out to her. I know how much this sucks but your feelings for her will pass eventually and it sounds like you need to process the loss of your dad and brother until you're feeling centered again. I'm sorry for your loss, but things will get better for you anon, i've been in your exact boat.

>>77606477
>>77605648
I’ve had multiple other interactions since that post which have left me asking myself “there’s no way people are this fucking dumb” there has to be something in the air at this point actively making the average person dumber. Here’s the one that most sticks out from last night driving home from work
>behind semi
>decide I’ll get over and pass it since lane is now empty because it’s going so slow
>some rat faced faggot in his little fagmobile pulls out of his fagdominium complex and gets right next to me in my blind spot
>stays right next to me won’t let me pass
>say fuck it idgaf no one’s behind us so I slow down to go behind him
>little bitch slams on his breaks and lays into his horn as we we almost collided
We didn’t almost collide he was in a totally different lane, you know in my fucking blind spot
>bertstare.jpg
>he’s screaming at me pissed
>lay into torn back and call him a stupid fucking retard and tell him to fucking move
>speeds off in his faggy little Prius or whatever the fuck, merged into my lane and then goes into the left turn lane about 1/4th mile down the street pulls into a Walmart to go buy bad dragon dildos so he can fuck his gaping asshole like the faggot he is
For no fucking reason. Fraud may be on the table there but idk. Dude basically did the dumbest thing he could have done on a mostly empty road and got mad at other people for it like a fucking moron. Just fucking dumb and retarded. I keep seeing shit like this happen or being involved in it. There’s not just an alarming lack of basic common sense and intelligence like a lack of even base line human levels (90 IQ) there’s a total lack of general self awareness, heck awareness in general period.

>>77603170
I need a new job bros. I don’t know if I hate my job, hate the people I work with or genuinely don’t want to work. Obviously I don’t want to work who does? If I could get some wagecuck making even $70k on a 5am-1pm schedule I would pretty fuckin happy. I could even grin and bear working with people I dislike and find insufferable if those conditions were met. Right now I’d be happy to find any job that got me out of my current one, that’s how fucked the job market is. I’ve been applying for 4 years now and only got 2 interviews landed current job a couple years ago and recently finally got a response from one of my more recent applications telling me they didn’t want me. That’s how fucked this is, I’ve been spamming applications to all sorts of jobs for almost half a decade now and have only gotten any form of acknowledgment from 3 out of the thousands

>>77606477
sadly true. I feel like I'm slipping towards them the more time I spend on social media.
that being said, I think the retardation can also be attributed to apathy and demoralization (which has been intentional). most people have no real goals so all they can do is fill their brains with mush and their stomachs with carbs.

>>77607267
I appreciate your advice. My mom is kind of weird in some aspects but I think all in all we have an ok relationship, I maaaybe would tell them one day but I see no reason to do it now. It's been quite a while already and there's many good things going on.

Anyways I know no one gives a shit but the movie date at my house with the 19yo went pretty innocently, we saw the movie ate popcorn and were basically lying against each other for a long time, no hugging but a ton of physical contact, then we talked for a long time about music and random shit but nothing spicy happened. I wasn't going to be the one making the first move that moment, however after that she is really really touchy sometimes. I'm still really confused lol oh well.

>>77608674
Thanks for the kind words. I'm really struggling at the moment and have basically moved back in to my mother's place because I couldn't stand the idea of her being alone after losing a son and my other brother fucked off out of the country basically as soon as my brother who died was cremated.
Another reason is that I don't trust myself to be alone in my apartment at the moment. This just all feels like too much to take and seeing my ex has sent me near the edge. It's been a year, I thought I'd be over it by now.

>>77608666
Uh huh. Is any of this from his mouth, or are you just going on what she says to you behind closed doors when you ask if it's ok?

>>77603170
I can tell I'm getting sick again and it's so annoying. I went through a phase of chronic fatigue and managed to overcome it and now I've got an infection or something is wrecking my immune system and I'm extremely fatigued all day. The only good thing is that this is probably just temporary, but the timing is pissing me off, because I'm also close to completing the first phase of my new program which has me peak in less than 2 weeks.

>>77608774
Remember anon, bitches ain't shit. Fuck them hoes

>the 10/10, 20 year old prostitute moved in the same apartment block as me

modern life can have it's good parts sometimes
finally I have a practice gf

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got fired and got no education, now what

>>77608775
Fuck’s the difference?

>>77609049
Trades unless you've got rich connections

>>77609099
If American, he's still gonna need those connections because even the trades are gatekept as fuck now. Unless his town has a Union with a high demand or Meth Head Inc where anyone with a pulse gets hired, but fuck you if you want safety regs or even health insurance.

>>77609078
Has he ever told you to your face, hey man, it's OK if you fuck my wife? Do you have any way of knowing what he knows about you fucking his wife other than what she says? Because I think she's lying to you about the arrangement and he doesn't know.

>>77609209
Where do you live? Most trades are in high demand all across the country. I think the average age of a tradesman is in the 50s right now. You just need to have a decent work ethic

>>77609275
Midwest. Nothing going on except solo maintenance. I have seen more new businesses but nobody is hiring. I went throw the process myself job hunting last year returning as an electrician but nope! Perhaps looking in a different field would yield better results but I feel like the reason was: Why would you leave, do office work, and then try and come back? Like leaving your ex, dating another girl, and then asking to get back with the first ex.

>>77609312
went through*

>>77609312
I live down south and business is booming for electricians. I know people that went through the process and were able to get work during their first few months of school.

>>77609320
Perhaps but the South makes much less than the rest of the country
>The average annual salary for an electrician in Alabama ranges from $55,644 to $61,280 (approximately $26.75 to $32.21 per hour)
I was getting paid $25 as a third year here

>>77609312
You gotta move to the city and put yourself out there as a handyman. Don't bother getting licensed as anything, but do get an llc and insurance. Refuse to do anything you'd get in trouble for. So you can essentially change fixtures, drywall, and paint.

I did that for a while and I still get called 5 years after stopping. After 2 years of it I was picking and choosing jobs.

>>77609341
How much per year?

It finally happened, brahs.
A girl hotter than my gf wants me.

>>77609340
Cost of living is also a lot lower than most places in the country. 55k-60k will set you up nicely down here and that's in Alabama so it'll take you further.

>>77609350
So is your next step to leave your gf like a good person so you can peacefully go after the other girl?

>>77609346
I was doing it part time, and didn't max my days out. Jobs paid as I went. Someone paid me $125 to change a gfci outlet once, which I felt bad about charging but was still cheaper than they'd been quoted by a real sparky. That was probably the most money/time. A lot of $500 ~ $1000 weeks painting for a half day at a shot. The money was plenty, especially for something I got into almost accidentally.

It was real work, though. Prefer my cozy desk job.

I think I don't have enough time for a gf. I work almost 60 hours a week and only have 4 hours to myself everyday outside of work and sleep.
Would explain why every girl I was talking to eventually ghosted me. How am I supposed to compete when I'm just the guy she sees once in a while on a weekend VS all the guys she sees in school everyday
Really does feel like it's impossible

>>77609225
Why the fuck would I approach life from the assumption that the person I like and care about is lying to me? Why would I root for some other guy? Anon, you might be retarded.

atill recovering from a sprained ankle that i got last month. ik i can just do like 99% of my routine like literally everything besides a leg press but I think it'd be good to take like a month or so away from the gym. There's a whole world outside of the small sweaty warehouse full of gross men and lululemon stacys

Wanted to have a talk about dating with the fwb, have been bothering her with that a few times over the last month. She put a deadline, we’d talk after her exam(life changing shit after 11 years in medicine, some kind of certification after which she can do anything, instantly doubles her salary and other things). Ok, I waited, was anxious but dealt with it. Yesterday she passes, we go to celebrate. I’m thinking to either bring it up or wait for a bit. She randomly says:
>well, anon, now you’re dating a doctor of radiology”
>we’re dating already?
>have been for a while, you haven’t noticed?
Where the fuck was the talk, man? What is this shit? You can’t just skip it!

>>77609049
I got my education from the school of life

>>77609936
what are the ages here, cuz asking "what even are we" is total bitch shit

>>77610088
Anon, you’re supposed to discuss things like plans for kids before you go from banging to dating, that’s pretty fucking normal in mid-30s. And I don’t necessarily want to jump into a default dating paradigm after just having exited a five year relationship.
I don’t fucking know if she wants to ever get married or have kids or move abroad permanently, this is the shit you discuss before you go exclusive. But apparently we’re just fucking skipping that, just fucking sweet.

>>77610088
I don’t want to start dating someone I really like but who’ll fuck off to another country at the first opportunity of remote job while I’m tied here. Wasted the last five years on this shit, I’m not doing that again.

>>77609927
>fucking some.other guy's wife
>she tells him her husband is perfectly ok with it
>taking her word for it
>doesn't understand why this raises suspicions
Bonus:
>thinks he's dicked a cheater so good she'll only cheat with him
Alright man, good luck. Hope the whole fucking a married woman thing all works out for you.

>>77610250
>thinks he's dicked a cheater so good she'll only cheat with him
Nah, not what happened. I don’t cause that animalistic lust in women, never have. When I said talk her out of it, that’s literally what I meant, I’m not gonna do her again, regardless of how much I might want it.
It’s interesting how you add to what I said your own conclusions. Or fantasies. You might want to work on that, same as your instinctual subservience to other men.

>>77610270
I suspect cheating at its root is actually psychologically homoerotic, but I dont think you're mature enough for that conversation

>>77610272
Ah, so you’re one of them brown tranny incels that flooded this board, huh. Oh well, opinion disregarded.

>>77610270
>conclusions
>fantasies
Try common sense, bro. And you opened this entire thing saying your dick saved a marriage, but now you're walking that back?

I could not care less if this woman cheats on her husband with you. What I'm worried about is that you're believing her word on his agreement. I am concerned for your safety when he finds out what's been going on, you dumb sack of shit.

>Friday 167.0
>saturday 167.6
>sunday 168.2
>Monday 168.6

How do you beat the weekend bloat?

>>77610277
You're the one fucking a woman and probably thinking about her man lol, triggered

>>77610281
>probably
More of your fantasies? You’re the one who brought up the husband, tranny.

>>77610272
>I can't help but let my mind drift to gay sex out if nowhere
Weird flex but you do you

>>77610280
Eat foods higher in potassium/drink more water

>>77610280
It should go right back down by Tuesday right? The daily number on the scale isn't important.

That being said, you're falling into a trap if you're trying to lose weight. Good all week and then sloppy on the weekend can easily negate itself. If you're just maintaining, fine, but if you're trying to trim up you need to look harder at your weekends.
>t. Same shit has stalled me for-ever.

>>77603170
>decided to take a look at the job market today to see if things have gotten better
>still utter dogshit
LinkedIn and Indeed are utterly worthless as dating apps now. Do I just have to click on companies randomly and spamfuck through their website at this point?

>>77610285
No no no, you did, you keep mentioning him, he lives rent free in your mind when you're balls deep, resorting to name calling, very female brained anon

>>77610303
Specifying here: cheating on your girlfriend with the sidechick = straight, cheating with a taken woman = very gay

>>77610432
Literally Chris Chan logic. Did you find your boyfriendless girl already anon? Is it your mommy?

THE KOMBUCHA MUSHROOM PEOPLE! SITTING AROUND ALL DAY!!!

>>77610357
Its wednesday and im back to 167.2. So not quite all gone. I do try to eat the same diet. but I think that not exercising is actually the problem since im not losing calories/sweating. Sometimes I do snack if its a late night which also doesnt help. But this happens quite a lot to where my average goes from almost 2lbs a week to barely 1lb a week. Maybe i have to treat weekends like a fasting period. Less exercise should mean less food.

>>77610546
Anon, 0.2lbs is few good sips of water. But yes, if you're moving less on the weekend and having a snack, that could account for all of it.

The important thing is how the scale looks long term, not day to day. I wouldn't fast on weekends if you're on the track you want to be on overall. For instance, I knew a guy that was iron-willed all week specifically so he could party hard on weekends, kept abs year round that way. But do evaluate your habits for how well they're treating you.

>>77610671
For the most part im on track. Ive been losing about 6 to 8lbs every month for the last 3 months. So my progress is good. Its just i like seeing continual progress so seeing high daily fluctuations doesn't make me happy. Idk. Maybe i add a run or some mini exercise just to keep the body moving. Weekends do feel like i just sit around and i dont like that either

i led on a girl but the next girl was so much hotter than her
i'm a piece of shit

>>77610432
Yeah, I got it the first time. You can't help but immediately let your mind go to homosexuality.

>>77605914
Yes, this little nugget of wisdom points to lacans graph of desire you always need to know that when you finally "get what you want" you will feel good for a little bit but the void inside of you will rear its head unless you have stuff going on. It's because the void is an engine for advanced movement such as getting that big job, or starting a art collective, or seeing non duality, or like being a billionaire, or whatever you want, all these goals are mediated by the void aka lack. Just how thirst causes you to seek water.

Let me break down a quick heuristic that is not philosophically sound but it is essentially the same shit.

A: you need the fantasy that u think will complete you

B: you need to accept the realistic time frame to achieve said thing, ten years twenty years as long as you don't want it "right now" which leads to neurosis

C: enjoy the process moment by moment paradoxically you should enjoy the fantasy of completion "when I finally have sex with this girl I will be complete" but at the same exact time you hold the truth that once you do said thing it will NOT offer any completion or lasting happiness. That comes from the process I described. The process of following the fantasy to the end the process of building. There is your endless happiness. But the key is the fantasy needs to excite you enough to really really give a shit. Doesn't matter what it is, this is just a way to trigger meaning and happiness systematically by manipulating the way you relate to language. There is much more to this but..

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Shadows grow, deafening
Have I lost you? I'm still here
Can you feel me? Please don't leave me
Don't let go, I can fix me
Shadows grow, deafening
Have I lost you? I'm still here
Can you feel me? Please don't leave me
Don't let go, I can fix me

Whirlwind cloud mouth, storm fronts shout out
Candles blow out, no light, no sound
Meaningless suffering, storm clouds want to swallow me
Reach out both hands, hail stones, rain dance
Cold lips trembling, calling your name
Meaningless suffering, storm clouds want to swallow me
Shedding this suffering, parting the sky

>>77610676
If you're still losing steadily at that rate, man, don't mess with it. That's a pretty good amount down every month.

But i guess when you get closer to goal and things get tighter, then you've got this lever to pull to get a little boost.

>>77610751
>Lacan on /fit/
What in tarnation. I'm training to be a Lacanian analyst lol.

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>>77610533
I sit, in my desolate room

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>>77610751
>There is much more to this but..
i'd be glad hear more anon.
I don't know shit about philosophy, just general knowledge and online reading. I came to a similar conclusion to C., I have to find something, anything, that can give me meaning in the moment. You have to enjoy the struggle.
I have a hard time with that, I discovered with things like music or drawing that you never get to that point you're satisfied with it, almost everybody no matter their level is dissatisfied with their current level. But i also don't enjoy the process that much, it's uncertain, it's a lot of friction, it's a lack of control.
I moved on after years of playing guitar and not liking my level. With drawing I barely tried. I should try writing that seems more fun even when the output is shit, it can be charming or funny in a way unlike music.

That was for hobbies or art, for work programming was also something that worked. Like most people in that profession say, it's like problem solving; you don't love it, but it puts you in the zone, you don't mind the struggle or spending hours tracking a problem, and the satisfaction you get solving an issue is great. And those great feelings are happen at a constant predictable rate (unlike long plateau when practicing art). Only issue is that programming just got solved a month ago so now i have to find something else to pursue for work that fits the criteria.

>>77610751
>A: you need the fantasy that u think will complete you
I want (more like NEED) a job
>B: you need to accept the realistic time frame to achieve said thing, ten years twenty years as long as you don't want it "right now" which leads to neurosis
There is no realistic timeframe with this shit
>C:
Hahaha....

>>77610751
>a. Fantasy: anal sex with my wife (yes, it's me)
>b. Timeframe: probably never? But hopefully once I'm fit enough to make her insecure about keeping my attention
>c. Process: continually pushing her anal boundaries as I (hopefully, come on man, don't fuck it up this time) get fitter and fitter and start living that halo-effect life

And then have the next fantasy ready to go:
>threesomes

>>77610751
White girls simply manifest, I think they got this lacan guy beat

>>77610713
You're in my head? Oh yeah, what am I thinking of now?

>>77610523
It's more of a knowingly having a third element involved in your sexual activity rather than just a you and her dynamic. Chicks like preselection and a taken man because she is competing with the other woman. Examine your own psychology.

>>77611113
Exactly my man that's why u will b happy

>>77603170
no drink

>>77603170
I still have poop on my dick from the tranny I assrailed last Friday night.
>inb4 shower
I have showered. It was a lot of poop.

I was railing this little twinks bunghole a few years back. I was close to blowing when he told me to stop because it hurt. I pumped three more times and blew a massive load up his turd cutter. To this day I question if I’m a rapist. Does three pumps truly make me a rapist??

>Saturday thread
>it’s a Thursday

I have been illogically horny today. I can't stop fantasizing about coming in my friends mouth. She isn't even that pretty come on

>>77612873
Gay men have a totally different standard to what qualifies as rape

>>77612905
She probably doesn’t even like you that way lmao

>>77612873
Yes you are. As soon as someone says no, you stop.

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>hooking up with this 18 year old girl who’s always high on hormones
>sends me a message about how depressed she feels, life is tough, wants to shed rivers of tears etc
>tell her I’m there for whatever she needs and such programmatic phrases
>she switches on to horny mode and begins to tell me how she’d like me to bound her and choke her
>immediately uploads a thirst trap to her ig story
It’s so hard to take women seriously it’s unreal. Always have a side hoe as backup for these scenarios, bros.

>>77612933
Well she's very touchy when we're close but nothing has actually happened. I really want her to gag on my dick though holy shit

>>77613103
>Well she's very touchy when we're close
Isn’t that normal if you’re friends? If you tell her your fantasies she’ll probably stop if that’s what you want

>>77613115
>Isn’t that normal if you’re friends?
What? Really? I haven't had that many female friends since we almost always end up fucking so I really have no idea what's the touchiness baseline

>>77613116
Do you end up dating? Because otherwise, touchiness and occasional sex IS the baseline if you’re /fit/

>>77613149
I'm not that fit. But it usually becomes a situationship that involves a bit of feelings. Almost never a serious relationship.

I don't know man I just saw her and said hi. She is objectively not that pretty but she smiled at me in a very particular way and I really really want to penetrate her. Having a dick and Balls and the desire to inseminate is almost a curse

>>77613171
Why? Sex and relationships bring pleasure and fun. As long as you’re single, fucking go for it.

>sex with the fwb
>takes hours and very specific position of her legs to get her off, usually 45+ minutes and often have to finish her off with my fingers on clit and g-spot at the same time
>on ssris
>sex with the ex
>cums every 2-3 minutes, literally from a few pumps, fingering almost made her squirt, asks to stop after the fifth orgasm(should’ve kept going for a few more)
>no ssris
God dammit, I thought I was bad at sex. Fuck. Fucking pharma kikes.

>>77613198
>tfw recently got on SNRI
It's harder for me to coom when fapping as I need more sensations going on, rendering hentai manga ineffective, but in the end my dick still works.
And I'm not a such an anxious mess now, so I will take it

>>77613186
She's a virgin I think

>>77613202
At this point I’m mainlining cialis and peptides just to be able to last long enough to please her. Just do booze and weed if you can, ssris are demonic unless you’re going through really bad shit.

>>77613212
>booze to treat chronic anxiety
I saw enough to know it's a horrible idea.

>>77613229
Fair, my bad. My first experience with someone being medicated for anything other than ADHD.

I usually drink 3 coffees in the morning. Today I drank 3 more early in the morning in an attempt to fix my sleeping schedule and I feel like I'm gonna die.

>>77613246
I mean 3 coffees when I wake up*, which is like 5PM. So now I drank 3 more at 5AM.

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>tfw no gf

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>>77613343
Same.

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>>77613343
Cannot relate
>tfw several gfs

>>77613231
Ironically enough I came to psychiatry with ADHD suspicion, but turns out it majorly might be anxiety as I happened to be crashing out a bit from methylphenidate comedown(tolerance kicked in and it was pretty much just stressing me out even more, making me masturbate way too much) when I was visiting psychiatrist one time and he prescribed me SNRI - it chilled me down within days. I wasn't even aware how bad it was.
Not that I'm much more productive, but at least chores don't feel like torture.

Guys how do i stop watching porn im desperate

>>77613510
Stop seeking it? Grow up? Go outside?

>>77603170
Is this really it? I’m 31 now and I’m not sure what to make of my feelings on life. It feels blank. Like something’s missing.
>childhood
Had some neighborhood friends for like 3 years, parents split and moved then had no friends, had some buddies in school but that’s it. By middle school no friends was the kid who ate lunch alone. Attempts to socialize usually went bad. I was just a fat dork so I get that. Granted there’s more to it than that but I’m not looking to blame others here.
>18
Got in shape in my first few semesters. No clue why I was even at college, as no goals with any degree and no real interest in anything. But somehow made friends and dated a bit. Had fun went to some parties went bar and club crawling a lot of hangouts.
>24 onwards
I’ve been alone since. Point I’m making is I’ve been alone most of my life except a good few years run in my early adulthood. I used to hate it but have grown comfortable with it. However I’m hitting a point in which I wonder if people are more necessary than I thought. Life is so boring. Like what is there in this life? Work your “not slave” job to earn enough to be allowed to exist just enough to continue being a “not slave”? This is kind of shitty. I don’t even have a desire to pick up on my few interests and hobbies anymore. Like I got a list of all the shit I wanted to do all the projects all the trips all the experiences and I just don’t give a fuck to do them anymore.
I also find myself incredibly depressed at the realization that I have no wife or kids and seeing the people I grew up with buying homes and starting families. Most of them are a few years older than me. The worst part is when I really think about it I’m confronted with the fact that right now I would probably be a horrible father and husband. I can barely even take care of myself. I feel dysfunctional. I’m guilty of the same issues my own father has, short temper and blowing up about nothing.

>>77613510
Get a full time job and hobbies outside of it, and an active social circle for the weekends. If you have a fulfilling life there is no desire for porn nor time or energy to spend on it, especially compared to inviting a girl over instead.

>>77613524
I’m unsure of if I’m asking for advice or just being a little bitch and venting here. I know the people I have that I can ask for advice are out of touch with reality for people my age. They’re either women or boomers who think you just walk up to a woman you don’t know and give her flowers and then you have a wife and kids or you show up 5 hours early and firm handshake and unblinking eye contact with the ceo to get a good job. The same types of people who bought homes at 25 for $30,000 met their multiple wives through friends and family in a time when women aren’t as morally bankrupt as today and then swear people my age are just entitled for feeling the way I do. Yeah I’m doing a whole lotta bitching but I don’t see how to change any of this. I know it’s possible, like I said I see peers constantly having their 2nd child all happy with their spouse or buying a huge home and planning for the first kid. Shit some of them didn’t even have that great of a job, earning maybe $50k and they pulled it off. Obviously combined income helps but still

>>77613524
>I wonder if people are more necessary than I thought.
Yes, not having people in your life will kill you, and having the right mix of good people will make life so much better its not even debatable

I don't understand how to meet women and date in your 30s in current year. I'm 33 and i don't want to meet some slut in the club, i want a relationship but how do i meet a woman to date? Shit makes no sense.

>>77613343
Gfs ara a chore. Wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy.

>>77613624
Find local events, go to local events, talk to people, for example, in my city they do boardgame nights hosted at bars

>>77613343
>gf
humilliation ritual

>>77613624
Honestly if you're at least 6 foot, decent looking and fit, dating apps are pretty decent.

I'm 29 and went out with a qt 30 year old doctor last week

>>77613510
People engage in pornography because they have nothing else to do and they lack the normal levels of dopamine that would keep a normal person away from unsavory practices. Most people who engage in heavy porn and masturbation usage don't have jobs a social circle and sit at home all day doing nothing but pressing the "free dopamine" button on their brain to get some mediocre level of pleasure. The pleasure never lasts and it's quickly fleeting with feelings of disdain and hopelessness because people like to be healthy and what's healthy is to engage in society and hobbies.

>>77613645
The irony of this post is lost on you.

>>77613524
>>77613543
Some of this problem is solved automatically by a wife and kids, which is not what you want to hear, of course. After college you move out into the world, probablyaway from friends, get a job, and you maybe make friends there, maybe don't. Wife and kids tends to move you into a community of like minded individuals with similar things going on for years on end, and taking your kids to play dates and sports naturally forces you into social interactions that give you opportunity to find new friends.

None of that helps you now, of course. I'm just saying, the average person has all this built into their life path. That's why it maybe looks easy for others and hard for you.

So what do you do about it? I don't know, really. Hundreds of years ago, you'd end up killed in a war or dead of disease anyway, problem solved. We kind of don't have a thing for guys in your shoes right now. We haven't for decades (Fight Club, anyone?) The answer is kind of just, get on the apps and get your dick wet. Find a local something or other you can volunteer at, which'll give you some purpose in the short run.

I will say, I was where you are years ago, and I escaped by getting fit enough to attract a good woman and start down the normie path. There was a certain amount of, "Fuck it, what else am I gonna do?" in my attitude about it at the time, and it's worked out ok.

The nutrition label's calories and macros for the same product varies a lot from brand to brand, they can have the same ingredients and quantities but the numbers can differ a lot. Thoughts on just using something like chatGPT for a generalized idea and rolling with that?

>>77613673
LLMs are good for that kind of thing, but also it kind of doesn't matter. Unless you're on your last week of contest prep, you don't need to be that exact on anything.

>>77613685
I'm finishing my first proper cut before my first proper bulk. I'm *almost* where I wanted to be but not quite there yet and time is running out for my deadline. I have people rooting for me n such and I want to make sure I hit my goal not only for myself but for them. I know that the *exact* calories of a thing doesn't matter but I still want to ensure I have a solid general idea, as I close in to the end I've been double checking my numbers to make sure I'm not hindering my progress in any way.

>>77613671
>Some of this problem is solved automatically by a wife and kids, which is not what you want to hear, of course
Not that I don’t want to hear it, it’s that I know it and it doesn’t seem like a possibility for me. This anon put part of the issue here perfectly >>77613624 but there’s other problems such as the self work I mentioned at the end of my first post me not thinking I’d be a good husband or father. No, me KNOWING I wouldnt be right now.
>None of that helps you now, of course. I'm just saying, the average person has all this built into their life path. That's why it maybe looks easy for others and hard for you.
Oh. I see. This makes sense
>The answer is kind of just, get on the apps and get your dick wet. Find a local something or other you can volunteer at, which'll give you some purpose in the short run.
That’s the conclusion I came to, except the apps are out for me and I refuse to even try them for the 10th time. The way I’m viewing it is I guess just uncle max life get some (very) occasional pussy here and there when I’m lucky. But, I’m even fucked there. Too old to truly uncle max and go do any badass military shit to have stories and lore, not about to start riding motorcycles, so it’s really just normal dude who like maybe hunts once a year builds a project car. So even then I’m fucked. It all takes me back to square one, what’s even the point? I don’t mean to sound unappreciative for the response, I am, I just really feel hopeless man. The absolute best I can come up with is finding distractions and goymaxxing.

>was where you are years ago, and I escaped by getting fit enough to attract a good woman and start down the normie path. There was a certain amount of, "Fuck it, what else am I gonna do?" in my attitude about it at the time, and it's worked out ok.
This is what happened to me when I started college and began getting in shape, I’m getting back in shape again and I really fucking hope it works out again.

>>77613733
Having a wife and kids SUCKS dick dude it's not the 50s anymore, oh you hate doing stuff that you don't want to do? Well that's going to be literally your entire life with little gay moments like when ur kid finally tells u he's trans or his first blue he smokes or maybe he gets graped at school it sounds so AWESONE

>>77613673
What's the product? You can have products like cocoa powder that legitimately vary from brand to brand because they sift and process it differently. One tablespoon can have 25 calories or it can have 10 and that can be the real number, even if the numbers and quantities are exactly the same.

>>77613733
>refusing to try the apps again
How much effort do these really take? I got married before they took over, but it looks amazing. Sure, it's a lot of swiping to get even one reply, but it's so easy. I did the same thing with LinkedIn multiple times and landed great jobs after a while each time, I imagine it's kind of the same thing. Just don't invest in any one girl until she's there irl on a 3rd date with you.

>>77613750
For this instance it was sardines in mustard as well as frozen broccoli, kale and spinach.

Been buying the great value packs and their numbs are a lot different then brands.

ex.
Great Value
Serving Size: 106 grams <---
Cal: 140
P: 16
F: 8
C: 2

Bumble
Serving Size: 106 grams <---
Cal: 200
P: 18
F: 12
C: 4

I know that one can might have a *bit* more than the other for sardines but there is still a good bit of variance.
The macros for the frozen vegetables seem to be pumped up *a lot* desu

>>77613745
>Well that's going to be literally your entire life with little gay moments like when ur kid finally tells u he's trans or his first blue he smokes or maybe he gets graped at school it sounds so AWESONE
and if any of that did happen, it would be entirely your fault. What a dumbass comment, dont have kids

>>77613745
Filtered. You sound like my sister, who is now a wine aunt with a couple of cats and a completely bs job. All she does is bounce around not accomplishing anything. If I have to listen to her talk again about why she hasn't written any of her novel because she's so busy...

>>77613770
Sourcing animals from different places can definitely have varying nutrition levels. A chicken raised in Idaho is not going to have the same amount of fat and protein or have the same makeup as a chicken raised in Arizona.

>>77613783
this is starting to sound kinda racist

>>77613787
Ok

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More progress. Halfway through the month with 3.5lbs lost so far. On track to lose another 8lbs this month. Its been tough, but it feels good seeing the abs come in

On Wegovy tablets and i havn't shit in 4 days and i've gained 4lbs. JUST LET ME POOP!

>>77613766
It’s not that they take effort they’re just fucking retarded. There’s more effort than you’d think but it’s not crazy. You have to have a good profile. To normies it’s intrinsic but there’s a science to it. Namely though if you don’t have a lot of pics that someone else has taken then your profile will go no where maybe you get a few swipes from women who use the app while groggy eyed while they take their morning shit.
Then, you’re basically in a free for all against thousands of other dudes, and the bitch WILL NOT be able to hold a conversion. It doesn’t matter if you’re a 6’5” chad IRL if the profile looks like shit and doesn’t highlight that. Unironically you get mogged by some soiboy giga homo who has better pics and that’s who she tries to put effort into. It’s all of them. The fat bitches have grown entirely delusional and act the same ways. Like you could be a solid 8/10 say you have a handsome face but nothing crazy + over 6’ + job that pays six figures. If all your pics are bathroom selfies her responses will be
>hey
>lol
>wdym
>oh lol
Like grey rock ass responses. The women I’ve pulled IRL it was the complete opposite they wouldn’t stop trying to make convo.
>oh so take better pics
Refer to the original post.
All of that, and then the fact is you’re not meeting a real wife on a dating app you’re meeting a whore who advertises herself as a town bike who you settle for, and at that point you may as well cut the corners and just fuck hookers if it’s pussy you really care about.

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>>77613800
Buy this and youll poop it all out