>turned 30 back in 2023 and had a crisis>couldn't change my height but was able to stop being a fatass>started 1 year of a weight loss journey >later being 2 years of lifting to put on leam muscle mass>in 2026 feel I made it after looking in a mirror and not frowning>now look good and not balding still have great hair>fat friends I've known since High School cut me off>fat family members get jealous and don't contact me anymore>make a new friend group from my local gym that takes me clubbing>coworkers generally treat me better taken more seriously at work>women are indifferent now towards me instead of outright disgust>only gay men from twinks to bears and trannies give me attention>have a 21-year-old stalker tranny that won't leave me alone that I ran into at a con months agoWhile lot of things are great about being in shape am I just cut off from women for being a manlet for my entire life? I don't want to cave and date a tranny even if the tranny can pass.
>>77607636have you ever smelled a beautiful woman's asshole?
>>77607680I assume an asshole wouldn't smell great even if it belongs to a woman.
>>77607636are you a manlet or a 'manlet'
>>77607690if she's beautiful, it simply cannot stink
What's wrong with trannies?
>>77607636You're cut off from attractive 20-something women for being old as fuck, primarily
>>77607802If by 20 something you mean 20-22, yeah college aged women don't like 30+ guys. 23-29 year old women prefer 30+ guys though. By far the age demographic that I've been most successful with in my 30s.
>>776076965'6">>77607806I've seen many guys older than me get women in their 20s but they are taller and more attractive.
>>77607636You are looking in the mirror and seeing the accumulated improvements but you've only gone from being a fat slob to being normal. That doesn't make you attractive automatically: your genes are still in the way. Had you gotten your shit together in your early twenties you would have had youth on your side too. Women don't know or care that you've improved yourself (it's a turnoff that you even needed to) all they see is what you look like now. At best you're a normal looking 30 something and therefore not attractive enough for women in their 20s
>>77608368is 34 seriously that old?
>>77608380Yes. There is a reason why age groups are usually split by 18-35 and 35-54 for research purposes.
>>77607636>ran into at a conYou're still engaging in mentally ill activities like conventions
>>77607702lean a little bit closer
>only gay men from twinks to bears and trannies give me attention>have a 21-year-old stalker tranny that won't leave me alone that I ran into at a con months agoSome things never change, huh...
>>77607636>Still cared and coped about your height at 30Nigga please, you get over that shit by 24 MAX.
>>77608954Height affects your entire life least till your elderly but at that point life lost all its novelty.
>>77607636Lol. It's not your height. The greatest pussy getter I ever knew was 5'9. It's most likely your face, your dog shit attitude for even considering a tranny. Also did you see the thread this weekend where a guy would post a girl then he would make you guess how much weight she gained, then post her. A lot of those girls were like 6's beforehand, but being fat made them a 2, just because you lost the weight doesnt automatically make the other things about you dissappear. If youre doing it for anyone beside you, youre cooked.
>>77607636Getting fit is like gentrification of a neighborhood.>at first it's just the old ladies that have always been there, thirsty and shameless after their men died>then the gays come in looking for cheap real estate nobody else wants that they can clean up>once it starts getting cute-ified a little, the low value liberal-arts hoes will start visiting. Not the ones you want, the fat and ugly ones with too many tats and weird facial piercings.>eventually, once things are looking good and safe, the real hot chicks will start coming around. This is still a developing process of course, and the higher the property value the better the girls.So if you're pulling gays, congratulations, you're at step 2 of 4. That's an accomplishment, but you have more work to do.
Charisma, presence, social viability play a huge role
