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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!>Price trackingRAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacitiesSSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssdGPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking>GPU hierarchy 2026https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
>>108868431Reminder : /PCBG/ is NOT a PC GAMING BUILDING GENERAL. State what you gonna use your PC for ? Gaming ? Slopping ? Porning ?
>>108868452All three.
>>108868452AI
Reminder : Jensen Huang loves you
>>108868491He better because I bought a 4090.
>>108868431>no dust filtration at allAll of my disgust, you can literally buy cheap pvc dust-mesh off ebay and maguyver that shit onto your pc by hand, its not hard.
>>108868586Just blow your case's insides every once in a while. You can't beat dust.
>>108860358Ordered the Sn7100 2TB instead of 1TB because it was cheaper per TBI lowkey hope the prices won't suddenly dump, I would feel really retarded.
>>108868491if that was true he wouldn't force (((AI))) cock down his employees throat
>>108868418>>108868418It's because the 7900 GRE GPUs was meant to be sold as 7900 XTX mobile chips.Not enough laptop OEMs wanted those chips, so AMD sold the leftovers as the GRE.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-gre-pure/4.htmlThe Steam Machine's using leftover RX 7600 mobile GPUs.
>>108869044didn't know that. i had a rtx 4070, 7800xt, 7900gre, 7900xt and 7900 xtx and 9070xt over a few months to test and use in my system and if i had to rank the heat that all those gpus produced when testing it would have gone a bit like this.40707800xt7900gre7900xt9070xt7900xtxi know that amd up until recently never reported the total board power draw like nvidia (since the 600 series i think) does (from the pcie to the 8 pin everything down). so the 7800xt and 7900gre have the same tdp on their site (260w) but the 7900gre performs a bit better.
>she paid $300 more for a worse cardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNwDg9WkT8
I don't build new PCs often. Are there any upcoming CPUs/GPUs that would be worth it to wait for them to release in the next few months/year? The market right now seems pretty grim and I don't expect it to improve.
>>108869151RTX 60 series isnt gonna come out soon
>>108869158
>>108868452Lurking & Shitposting in 32 threads simultaneously.
>>108869149and the $300 has bad/no linux support
>>108869168why did you buy a 9950x3d and install ltsc iot?
>>108869149>Traces a path in youre path lol
>>108869184>one path per 15 framesand it is only going to become less with time. what a great investment!
how is this even possible? this has to be complete game dev incompetence, right? the hardware isn't so different that it would create such disparity
>>108868201>Inputslike USB or S/PDIF. Really depends on how many things and what you want to connect. Also regular bluetooth or aptX or no bluetooth at all.>outputsit's handy if your DAC has a headphone amp built in. 6.35 jack is the least complicated as you can just slap an adapter on a 3.5mm, I haven't had any headphones with 4.4 balanced so no idea, XLR tends to be for high end stuff. RCA or XLR outputs on the backside for active speakers or amps. It can be a nice to have to have multiple outs that can be used simultaneously for speakers and a sub but this heavily depends on your setup>additional featuresvolume knob should be the bare minimum, other DSP features like filters or EQ, displays or remoteRule of thumb is not to overspend especially if this is all new to you. You'll likely get everything you need already for 100 to 200 bucks. Premium "can" be better but this comes with a price and eventually you just pay for snake oil. I'd stay away from random online sources claiming things to be the best as well. audioscience can be somewhat trusted I guess but I'd still take it with a grain of salt. I think FiiO and Fosi have some more budget friendly DACs, Schiit tends to be popular but there are so many brands. The Cambridge DacMagic 200m I used for a long time is already more pricy but other than the ground loop I had with the device turned off it's simple and works just fine. Otherwise you may want to look up the recommendations of the headphone general in the archives
>>108869196lisa su paid them off like the evil devil she is
>>108869196nvidia has 90% of the market. makes sense that their cucked gpus get extra help from developers. amd gpus have to have more raw performance to make up for it.
>>108869180Because I can.And why not?
>>108868928haha
I had some sort of power surge and my PC would only attempt boot but then would stop in a split second. I replaced the PSU, but now the computer won't even attempt to boot. What could be fucked and why? I replaced the cables as well and I made sure to connect them properly. I'm really stumped. I guess the mobo is fried, but do you guys think the rest will survive? I will give my PC to a repair shop just for diagnostics, since I can replace the parts myself, but I can't stop thinking about it.
>>108869207what about those x3d cores? do they even get used right on windows 10?
>>108869128>so the 7800xt and 7900gre have the same tdp on their site (260w) but the 7900gre performs a bit better.GRE has the better chip, a cut down Navi 31 vs. Navi 32.AMD also undertuned the GRE card's stock VRAM frequency which is needed for mobile GPUs.There's a significant amount of VRAM OCing headroom with that card (2250 MHz vs 2438 MHz memory clock for the 7800 XT).They probably didn't care to test a higher memory frequency version of the GRE chip.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-gre.c4166https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7800-xt.c3839https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-xt.c3912NVIDIA's non-flagship RTX GPUs are generally power efficient because they're designed with mobile use-cases in mind.The desktop 4070 is part of the AD104 GPU family, which includes the mobile 4080.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad104.g1013Laptop RTX 5090 & 4090s are basically downclocked and power limited desktop 5080 & 4080 chips.
>>108868700I've been using a meshify 2c for two years. Haven't dusted the insides once. Only the slightest bit of microdust is present.
>>108868431310 USD* for the 5800X3D Anni Versary in Jeetland.*before taxes! KEKhttps://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-10th-anniversary-edition-appears-in-india-for-around-310
>>108869212Of course they do. Only some games don't get scheduled right and would need manual adjustment if I wanted to optimize their performance.
>>108869216so amd can make efficent gpus. they just don't want to. one of the 7900gre i bought on a whim (for very cheap) to play half life alyx in vr because my 4070 didn't have enough power (or vram). >>108868418while it only 50w it's still 50w on a faster gpu with more vram etc (that also takes up more power for the whole system)well anyways i am running a 9070xt which pulls about the same as a 7900xtx from last gen
used DDU for a clean reinstall of NVidia drivers and now all my games are chugging and running worse. think its been too long (10-15 min in game of metaphor re) for it to be the shader cache and vulkcan seems fine after driver reinstall, heres the DDU settings:GENERALremove present and non-present monitorssave log files in startup pathcreate a system restore pointauto check for DDU updatesremove vulcan runtimeNVIDIA OPTIONSremove C:\Nvidia driver foldersremove 3DTV Playremove Nvidia broadcastremove Nvidia shader cacheAMD OPTIONSremove AMD Crimson Shader Cache folderremove AMD control panelno Intel options checkmarkedI know it probably got rid of something for me I just dont know about and need to reinstall, but I cant find out what, any help?
>>108869264you deleted the shader cache folder and now it's rebuilding it
>>108869234they already told you it was a limited anniversary editionit's literally just old stock that they put a higher price tag on because they know they can get away with it(because they're AMD, it's always okay when AMD does it)
i wish i bought a 5700xt anniversary edition...
>>108869212>hasn't heard of process lassoyou actually don't need the shittiest version of windows to use the greatest processor
>>108869286at least you have something pretty to look at when it black screens
>>108869294had the normal one. used it for like four years with no problems. i was on linux tho.
>>108869298ok
>>108869268would it take a long time (over 10-15min)? someone said it shouldnt take as lone as it has for me, and is it going to do it for every game I boot up?
>>108869286>dented
>>108869306one day they become cheap again. then i can buy one for 40 bux and hang it on my wall.>>108869310love the dent.
>>108869307yes, it's going to do it for every game, but it only does this once until you delete it
>>108869350i hate being patient reeeee
how does one move win10 from HDD to their new SSD without fucking up their entire computer
>>108869391macrium reflect free edition from internetarchive
>>108869261>so amd can make efficent gpus. they just don't want toAMD knows their Radeon GPUs aren't as popular as GeForce, and they also can't charge a high premium like NVIDIA can.So AMD designs a more cost-efficient (smaller) chip with fewer cores that boost higher and draw more power.That 9070 XT vs 5070 Ti power draw chart shows this.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5070-ti.c4243They also commercialized the MCD + GCD GPU packaging tech for higher end RX 7000 video cards to minimize the 5nm die size required per chip.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-xtx.c3941https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888AMD's largest gaming GPU customers are console manufacturers anyway.
>>108869391just reinstall
>>108869407can I install it on the SSD while its active on the HDD? will it ask which one I want to use or something?>>108869400epic
>>108869420>can I install it on the SSD while its active on the HDD? will it ask which one I want to use or something?i would do that because it would boot the boot manager of your windows ssd install on your hdd. you'd have to turn off your sata port or unplug the hdd so only the ssd is visible during install.
>>108869434*i would not
>>108869441how do then? use >>108869400?
>>108869461you can unplug the hdd (or just turn off the sata port for it via the bios) during the install. it would let you choose the install to boot via the boot menu. if your hdd is bigger (esp your c: partition with windows on it) than your ssd. you'd have to resize those partitions and make room.
>>108869234The 5800 XT is discounted to $230 in the US at the moment.The floor for the 5800X3D was always going to be at least $280, realistically $299 MSRP minimum.None of these guys are your friends; they making "gaming" processors to generate profits.
>>108869475epic chungus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCgaH8i97xsthis would be the perfect pc today if you remove all the rgb gay shit
>>108869483It shouldn't be over 300 considering that you get a 7800X3D for 300 @ microcenters.
>>108869600I wish the btf connector was on the side of the mobo like the 24pin instead of the back so it wouldnt need a special case (I dont like most of them)
>>108869686You can use ddr4 ram.
I'm in the process of planning my rebuild for my home server/NAS/automation etc box and I'm trying to decide if I should throw in one of my 'old' GPUs >Asus ROG Strix NV 3090 or>Sapphire NITRO+ AMD 9070XT This box is going to be used both for NAS type storage (Samba/NFS shares, maybe using TrueNAS) or a at least aand any sort of server/homelab / automation / selfhosting etc...usage depending on needs. WIth this in mind I'm wondering if its better to keep the 3090 or the 9070XT? I know the 9070XT is likely more performant and its FOSS driver compatibility on Linux, but the 3090 has additional VRAM. When it comes to self hosting and messing around with AI models, I'm unsure if its worth having them on a separate server box and then connect to them via client with the high performance main rig, or if its better/necessary to just run them entirely on the PC with greatest GPU, RAM etc..performance.
>>108869767selfhosting ai is a meme
>>108869686>300 @ microcenters.Then those people should buy the Microcenter 7800X3D, AMD wins either way.You've missed the entire point.
>>108869149>people still posting hardwarebrownboxed in 2026
>>108869374Stop deleting your shader caches.
>>108869767You can't do shit on your PC when you have an llm taking up all the ram+VRAM so...
Uh which holes to put an 3.5 inch HDD in? A 2.5 fits on those 4 to the right but I'm stumped with the 3.5 now I wonder if I can get lucky enough to be able to put both an HDD and SSD in
How do I make time go faster to skip to the time where AI bubble is burst and prices are back to sane levels?
>>108869721Yes but that doesn't justify the money charged by AMD. The fact it can use DDR4 doesn't make the CPU any more expensive to produce.
>>108870152>ai bubble
>>108869775but i want to be able to generate anime tits thoughbiet
>>108870152>he isn't cherishing the last few weeks before the arduous march beginsniga, buy rice now
>>108870124I don't think you can put a 3.5 there without using glue
>>108870186just buy a 16gb vram card, ai servers make no sense unless you're getting 96 vram minimum
>>108870152Trump is an accelerationist, he's gonna pop that bubble in the second semester
>>108870186I can generate infinite emma watson tits at 2048x2048 with a 5070ti 16gb. I can't see how anime tits would be more demanding
>>108870201true, sucks you have to pay the nvidia tax though
>>108870217image generation works fine on amd these days
>>108870223splendid
got a new update to my AM4 b550 tomahawk today, after months without updates, not gonna update because it's just windows gay stuff, but I hope we'll get the memory upgrades am5 has gotten few time ago
>>108870250yeah i also hope AMD remembers to implement all the missing features ten years after the platform launched
>>108870250I hope amd adds ddr5 support on am4
These are the combo deals my local Microcenter has. Thinking of grabbing the 9800X3D, MSI X870E-P Pro WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 32GB DDR5 Kit for $729.99, but is there honestly any big difference between the motherboards to justify paying 60 bucks more? What do you guys think? Which is the best deal here?
>>108870199b-but it says HDDI can fit two holes there and one hole in this tiny slot hole at the edge bottom of the pic. No place for the right bottom corner hole though.. Not sure if the slot hole would work. Damn this sucks
>>108870124Do the 4 screws not fit in the wide holes, vertical?
>>108870341I'm jealous of all the people that have a microcenter near them.
>>108870250>tomahawkAh, my B450 might eventually receive it too. The last I got was 1.2.0.F. Probably won't see anything beyond security/bug fixes it's abandoned.
>>108870416*until it's
>>108870397That didn't work, they only fit into those two didn't actually reach the little slot hole.>>108870411Nope
>>108870450read the manual/website for the case, it'll tell you how to mount the drive
why would you use that gross picture (mine) as the op?
>>108870458There is nonehttps://www.agiler.us/product/atx-case-with-600w-power-supply-plus-two-usb-2-0-ports-and-one-usb-3-0-port/Guess I'll have to walk to the computer store I got the case at tomorrow and see if they know anything. I hope they don't tell me I need to carry either the HDD or PC with me.
>>108870484its good enough for eve
anyway. my search thus far has been fruitless. none of the coolers in the op have liquid temperature sensors and the 6 or so new ones that iv looked at on gamers nexus big roundup graph dont either. im awfuly bummed dude.
>>108870568just build a custom loop if you want that
>>108870568why would they you need a line in wc flow meter and temp sensor for that regular coolers can't tell you the liquid temps
>>108870341Anyone?>>108870415Haha yeah, unfortunately it's still an 80 minute drive away
>>108870592nah my nzxt kraken has one but i wouldnt even recommend it for am5 since the coldplate has the wrong curvature for ryzen and results in terrible hotspots
>>108870568NZXT Kraken / Elite? You know you can just use Pcpartpicker and Buildcores to see if it has a screen with some temp readout as a default.
>>108870587it looks like i might have to (again).https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/49980381/#49994208
>>108870617oh i linked the reply. oops.
I want to build a PC but I keep thinking to myself "technology is just going to keep getting better so there's literally no point." Plus I have an m3 macbook pro which is surprisingly capable. I know we all hate apple but apple silicon is truly insane. I reckon this thing will last another 7 years.
should i buy this? seems kinohttps://global.redmagic.gg/pages/redmagic-blaze-16-pro-gaming-laptop
>>108870741no
>>108870723Just admit that you're priced out of the market and cope with your goybook.
>>108870830im actually not priced out i just feel no need to get the power hungry monstrosity known as the """gaming desktop""" but maybe that's just me.
>>108870855honestly I think buying a pc now is dumb as shit for 2 reasons: 1) AI bubble prices, 2) we're near a big roadblock for new hardware which is sub 1nm lithography, I believe gen over gen improvements are going to slow down a lot once we hit 1nm and every gen starts just being 0.1nm smaller than the previous so I think buying a pc in 2030/31, probably zen 8, with 1nm will hold it's power much longer than what we're getting right nowI'll be on 5700x3d 5800x3d until then
>>108870892I'm waiting for AM6 with DDR6.It's probably going to be the last meaningful upgrade for a decade
>>108870892>1nm will hold it's power much longer than what we're getting right nowOr devs will just keep slopcoding and you won't even be able to get 30 FPS base in new games even with the best processors
Does anyone know if XPG has already updated the new batches of the ADATA XPG CYBERCORE II 1000W 80+ Platinum PSU?On their official website, it’s listed as ATX 3.1 with a 12V-2x6 connector, but in several reviews I’ve seen, it’s shown as ATX 3.0 with a 12VHPWR connector.
>>108870950Since most of the reviews I’ve seen are from about 2 years ago, I’m wondering if the current batches have been updated
ive come to realize that AIO coolers are a total meme and absolutely pointless
I can't decide between a PG32UCDM3 or a XG32UCWMG for an OLED monitor
>>108870223>he doesn't know
>>108870223Uneven frame pacing, which is antithetical to a technology that is for smoothing
>>108871329if you have a poorfag 8core, sure i guess, they're far more aesthetic and quiet than a fan cooler though. And i used to be a fan-cooler shill.
>>108870892we don't know what'll happen next, every new pc component could have forced AI and botnet malware built into it at the hardware level, pcs themselves could evolve into something not useful for gaming entirely.I'm of the opinion that my early 2025 master race rig was the absolute, objectively best time to upgrade for a final time, outside of new gpus later on.
>>108871428anything with an npu can be that, amd's last generation without an npu was zen 3
isn't it hilarious that arrow lake is 3nm and zen 5 is 4nm and it still beats it? intel is getting overhyped last few weeks because of their foundry, but their foundry is still far worse than tsmc, who doesn't even use high na euv machines for their stuff yet and, what most people don't notice, their chip designers still suck compared to amd's, losing with 3nm against 4nm is a really sad affair.
What upgrades should I get for my computer?
>>108871418It's not just for aesthetics, aios free up space around the socket area allowing you to add a ram cooler and overclock better>>108871679Kinda sad how desktops always lag behindPhones have been on 3nm for nearly 2 years now and moving onto N2P later this year
is the 5500x3d a good pairing for the 9060 xt?
>>108871830phones get new cpus every where, computers, every 2 years
>>108871906every year*>>108871901it's a good gaming cpu in general
>>108871901yeah it's a good combo. wish i could buy a 5500x3d here for cheap...
when the fuck do the seasonic optiguard PSU release. MSI has something similar but I don't want to use their shitty software.
>>108871679>isn't it hilarious that arrow lake is 3nm and zen 5 is 4nm and it still beats it?raptor lake is 10nm and beats itarrow lake is overhyped because people want to root for the "underdog" and redditors have decided that's intel now
>>108869149>sloppers have to pay more for the worse card because AMD can't into sloplmao
>>108872378of course it can generate slop, only idiots can't get ROCm working
>>108872537its time consuming and frustrating to get some ai apps running on nvidia for the first timethe added frustration of using non-cuda gpu would be retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtOnTm5dqGI
Are HDD prices only going to get worse this year or should I wait™?
>>108872570They use nand as well and those are going up
>>108871914I ordered mine recently from AliExpress for $190 after coupon discounts. Probably will cost less if you're a burger.
>>108868431>check pricesThey're not going to get any lower, are they? Is right now my best shot at a deal?
>>108871340PG32UCDM3 has the better HDR True Black 500 certification with the new screen coating that minimizes QD-OLED raised blacks.I'd probably get that over a TB 400 WOLED unless there's an extreme price difference.
>>108872709well anthropic wants like 3x more compute than what they have right now, so chances arent great
>>108871340QD-OLEDs scratch really easily, and even cleaning them can feel nerve-racking. So if you’re very picky about keeping your OLED panel looking flawless, I’d probably go with a WOLED instead since they’re more durable and easier to live with.
As I continue to struggle with my monitor Im just so confused a company like samsung can release monitors that dont wake up from sleep when you move the mouse.They must have a design doc that says "do not wake from sleep under any circumstances" and keep doing that forever, and eu somehow lets them sell their shit here.
At what percentage should I start to worry?
>>108872879I replaced any that went below 90%.
>>108872868That's OS dependant not monitor dependant
>>108872879Don't worry, be happy.
>>108872891and 99% of the owners use win11?
>>108872898I can't believe people this retarded actually browse /g/.
>>108872901Is this a sharty shitposting bot
>>108872898????It's a feature on all OS
>>108872941What is this referrring to in the context of a monitor not waking up. What do you want to tell us?
>>108872868Hit the CTRL or SHIFT key to wake up monitors if the mouse doesn't work.
How much do you guys think it'll cost, will it be worth the price?
>>108873007too much and not at all
>>108873007does it have a liquid temperature sensor?
>>108872868i remember my aw3423dw being fine for like the first 2 months then it stopped waking from sleep after that, requiring a reboot to turn on. dell eventually released a firmware update to allow the monitor to be turned on by long pressing the joystick.wtf was up with that?
>>108873023Gotta wait for the mk.iv that's releasing in 2046 for that feature
>>108873007>How much do you guys think it'll cost$300+>will it be worth the price?No
>>108873039nooooooooo!
>>108872570Waiting is always retarded
>>108873007Asus proart has an AIO with black noctua fans already if you want this kind of thing but it costs more than 300€ here I think
>>108873061The Noctua AIO will have the newest Asetek Gen 9 pump which supposedly runs quieter.This pump is implemented in Antec's new AIO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhV1tZZ3e70
>>108873007>massive fumble by keeping the radiator blackRetards will still buy this lol
speaking of AIO pumps, is there a shop that lists the pump loudness? It's almost always just the fan noise that is listed.
>>108872947You're retarded and talk like a jit.
>>108873139doesnt the llm want to output "jeet"?
>>108873136>is there a shop that lists the pump loudness?I don't think so, you'll have to rely on hardware reviews.Newer AIO pumps shouldn't be too noisy if you reduce the pump speed to around 50~70% RPM.
>>108873007It doesn’t have RGB or an LED screen, so it’s not worth it
>>108872709i doubt it's getting much lower. prices recovered a tiny bit lower than peak, but i think we can expect this to be the new normal.even if all AI companies imploded overnight prices still wouldn't go back to last year's levels. when prices go up like this and people still buy, the companies get the message that they should have been charging more all along.the only saving grace would be china's new manufacturing, but that seems very much intended for domestic rather than export sales.
>>108873007>off the shelf asetek cooler with poo fansyou can buy any AIO and put noctua fans on it for the same experience.
I have an old(ish) SSD: 970 evo plus nvme m.2 ssdI'm trying to put it in my Gigabyte X870 Gaming Wifi6 Mobo as a secondary SSD.Where exactly do I put it?
For me, it's the Tryx Stage 360.
>>108873236M2A_CPU if the 970 Evo Plus SSD is going to be your OS drive.
>>108873287No my OS drive is already installed, this will be a secondary drive.Should it go in M2B_SB?
Asus fagmory crate refuses to even launch. What else can I use to control my rgb?
>>108873303Yes, my bad.
boughted a 5500X3D for $160
>>108873311theres some smaller version specific to the device you havejust download that
>>108873311SignalRGB or OpenRGB (lightweight).
>>108873311Disable armory crate in your BIOS otherwise Windows will keep shitting itself over it
Gore warningDecided to clean my wife's desktop after 4 years since last dusting. The case is an old lianli (~2009) with a single intake fan with a dust filter which I regularly clean. I think the cpu is sucking air from the back grill, I should tape some filter there as well
>>108873419why hasnt your wife bought a new one
>>108873419slap an output fan on the grill
>>108873432I refuse to spend money on a new build in the current market. It is a respectable i5 4440 from 2015 with 16gb ddr4 and a samsung 850 ssd added later, it will last until prices go down>>108873450there is already an output fan in the back, I'm talking about this grill
>>108873007AIOs are retarded.
im thinking of returning my 9070xt that i got like 2 days ago and paying the premium fee for the 5070ti...the ai features and just overall faster architecture kinda seem worth it to me...
>>108873529Don't forget the better IOI never thought I'd have use for dp2.1 80gbps on my 5090, but here I am using it without having to rely on dsc. The 9070xt only does weaksauce dp2.1 54gbps
https://files.catbox.moe/otx8i8.mp4I don't have a q-latch for my second SSD so I just used a screw to hold it like this. but as a result it has a little bit of play (see in video)Can this cause problems or is it okay?
>>108873485>it will last until prices go downIt will last till the heat death of the universe?
>>108869196AMD sponsored game
>>108873529>kinda seem worth it to meTest out AMD's AI pack before you spend $300 more for a 5070 Ti.https://www.amd.com/en/blogs/2026/amd-software-adrenalin-edition-ai-bundle-ai-made-si.htmlI don't care which brand of card people buy, but my maximum willingness to pay for a 5070 Ti is $850 for one of the better models like the Gaming Trio or a TUF.
>>108873542you dont need more than 48gbps though. basically hdmi 2.1 is enough.
>>108873545m.2 can be a bit finicky to get slotted in correctlyI dont think its correct if it has movement
>>108873529
>>108873545That's fine, I'd consider getting a heatsink.https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-TR-M-2-2280-Conductivity-Performance/dp/B0BNZYFW88There's also some cheap M.2 screw kits you can purchase for peace of mind.https://www.amazon.com/Kalote-Motherboards-Rust-Resistant-Insulation-Screwdriver/dp/B0FMF6QPTZ
These Retardeons always share stale benchmarks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNwDg9WkT8
>>108873659I kinda dont understand these youtubers putting amd vs nvidia like thatlike, who buys gpus just for the raster perf? No one
>>108873666all rtx games are just shit and not worth playing. can't fault them. eight years later and still no good games with rtx.
>>108873529Honestly all you need is watch HUB own forza horizon 6 benchmarks. the 5070 TI at native is whooping the ass of the 9070 XT. This is the real gap from any new game that comes which properly utilize blackwell architecture (HUB goes and benches useless games like CoD or really old games were they do not take advantage of blackwell at all) Then when you add pathtracing gap and DLSS being so much better than FSR and
>>108873666amdrones need validation lol
>>108873702looks ljust like the other forza games. prob sucks just as much as the other two. same boring game and game play.
I need a new 4k screen.my previous one finally croaked after only working for about 5 months with the RGB loop problem.its a XG27UCDMG and the problem is that when I turn it off it ends up in this annoying RGB loop where it blasts red, blue, green, white colors fullscreen in an endless loop.I kinda got around it having to unplug it fully, hold the button down for like 20 seconds, clicking it once, waiting 6 minutes until some relay in there clicks and then running the installation for its firmware, then there is a 50/50 chance the screen turns on or gets stuck in the loop again.what a piece of Asus shit but from what I gathered all these screens are fucking garbage nowadays and my problem (among other issues) seems to be very common.So what kinda Screen should I get now to replace this Asus turd?
>>108873666I think it's gamers, satan. For some reason, Not all gamers are also aiCHADS who are buying a GPU for the noble purpose of generating anime tits.
>>108873609i will, thanks.hopefully ai performance is good on it
>>108873727RMA it?
>>108868431>you need $1500 MINIMUM to play 4k60fps vidyaI just can't afford that, are the prices going down anytime soon? even the used market is overpriced af
>>108873753because for a bunch of dumb coincidences this is not possible.so whatever, I dont care. I throw it in the trash and will buy a new one.
>>108868431Been a long time I haven't seen nicotroon, has xe killed xirself ?
>>108873761You don't need a PC that can run games at 4K 60 FPS.
>>108873761good thing that the cpu almost doesn't matter at this res and fps
>>1088737343080 from 6y ago plays raster only games >100 fps at 4k using upscalingraster perf is a bit redundant at this point
>>108873761Well next year it may be cheaper i think the 6070 will definetly be able to deliver that at performance DLSS if it has 18GB of vram and we get a new RR model
>>108873799>Well next year it may be cheaper>if it has 18GB
>>108873770hopefully
I dunno, I'm considering going in on a 9070xt or a 5070, just because I can get a few hundred bucks for my 3080 12gig to help cover the cost. But I don't really have anything in particular to play with it, all the games I play run fine on my existing card.
>>108873888>going from one 12gb card to another 12gb card
>>108873888>upgrading from 12gb to 12gb5070Ti at the very least. Super refreshes are never coming anyway.
if only 5070ti was closer to msrp...
>>108873888Going from a 3080 to a 5070 is going to be disappointing if path tracing and the new dlss presets (and framegen) aren't literally the only things you care about.If it's only going to end up being like $200 for the upgrade, sure why not go for it.
>>108873913any good path tracing games? i am still looking from some. just get the 9070xt then.
>>108873927Pragamata looks good rasterized but it has pt mode that I havent rly tried.Most new big games have it, like the bond game from hitman studio
>>108873768Gigabyte or MSI if you want those newer screen finishes on QD-OLED monitors.https://global.samsungdisplay.com/31442
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-5-2-POLARIS-VEGA.htmlNot Discontinued
>>108874097NEVER OBSOLETE
>>108873727>>108873768DSC bugginess got another one...
>>108874097
>>108873921bro its a 6 fucking year old card
>>1088741764070 was just a 3080 v25070 is just a 3080 ti super/ 3090 blower
>>108874176as people said the perf per dollar progression slowed down after 3080 release.the only worthwhile upgrade is 5070 ti, if you dont want it you wait for 60xx
>>108873799>6070 192 bit bus almost as fast as a 4080only $1000!
>>108873485buy a b550 and a 5500x3d and reuse the ram, scrooge
>>108873419>miss matched ram prices are not that bad bro
>>108873907Sorry, yeah I meant the ti.
>>108874473the dimms are also mismatched, they should be ABAB not AABB
I just want a 4k 240hz+ option that is not OLED as I just can't stand the babysitting you have to do. plus I do a wombo combo of 3+ hours of counterstrike a day along with productivity apps like blender and ableton. so my usecase is like the total opposite of what oled provides. I JUST WANT 4k ALONG WITH HIGH REFRESH RATE FUCK SAKE!!!
>>108874510there is high refresh non-oledsbut 240hz is typical for oled only
>>108869775Well, if you look at the difference between Stable Diffusion when it released and the open development of LoRAs made by tons of autists so it can be aware of exactly what style of anime porn you want made, which fetish, and by which mangaka's style.... I'd rather support that meme's development rather than leave everything up to a handful of proprietary, SAAS, costly bullshit run by 4 companies that censor and jack the prices when people get used to using their platform. I haven't messed around with a lot of self-hosted AI yet but I figure its something I could do with the new hardware, just like a lot of selfhost cloud alternatives. >>108870118but that's when its running, yes? I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out. If its better to run a LLM, some voice cloning assistant, or ComfyAI or whatever the fuck the same as any other demanding application on your main PC, like a game, or if you can get away with having it running on a server an connecting to it with a client and there being some benefit (while also not fucking up any other server tasks its running), even though it may have some 'lesser' hardware. For instance, I have a 5090 in my main PC, but I don't have 2 5090s, so for my server I'm either going to use the 3090 or the 9070XT
>NVIDIA Now Reports GeForce Gaming GPU Revenue Under "Edge Computing"They probably want to hide how much the gaming segment's declining for the next few quarters (or forever).https://www.techpowerup.com/349255/nvidia-now-reports-geforce-gaming-gpu-revenue-under-edge-computing
>>108874753yeah you must be righthow embarrassing
>>108873634> 16 game averageWhat? Native? RT? PT?
>>108875121watch the video chud
>>108873485> prices go down
>>108873516With the sole exception of Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 Pro.
>>108873634Is this still with all the 5070Ti's tensor cores and RTX features disabled?
>>108875158No one ever pretends that you oughta buy amd for RT, good upscaling/fg, let alone path tracing
>>108875158AMD fanboys are still trying to pretend that raw rasterization performance at native resolutions is the only thing that matters.
>>108873023Just squeeze some cheap flat temp sensors in between the fins of the radiator. Works perfectly fine here in my ALF. I get a nice delta from the sensor close to the IN-tube and the sensor close to the OUT-tube. It increases from ~1°C idle system to ~3-4°C @100% workload. Throttling the pump increased the delta only slightly by ~0.5°C.
>>108875132There was no link in that post, chud.
>>108874753considering nvidia is like 99% of the market share this reads more to me like pc building as a whole is a dying thing rather than nvidia is flopping
>>108873761>go checked used PCs>simple 5070ti builds are at $1600
>>108875266> $1600~$1500 had been the price for a middle class gaming PC for many years.Considering recent inflation it's not surprising that you pay this now for a used PC.Yes, your dollar lost that much buying power.
>>108873639ty anon
>>108872558Why do people hate on Threat Interactive again?
>>108875856>
>>108875856Because he's fucking retarded
>>108875856bad youtube videos that have no information laypeople might have a need for, and it can only serve as "direct hate/harassment in this direction" or some 4channers who repeat words from the vids without any understanding of the topicif industry people care about his vids they're not vocal about it
>He boughted an AMD GPU
>>108875945>He boughted an NVIDIA GPU
>>108875945Only after my nvidias failed after 1 year
AyyMDNovidiaIntelavivPick your poison
>>108875986AMD GPUAMD CPULINUX OS
>>108875997>LINUX
>>108876012>W*ndows
>>108873485>it's a respectable [budget ewaste build from an eternity ago]>>1088737614k60 will never not be a meme. Stop being retarded and spec builds for 1440p60 instead.
>>1088760681440p is the true meme, at that point I would rather save money and just go for 1080p, since there's barely any different
>>108876113I won't bother with a proper response since your chibi gacha reaction image betrays your sub-90 IQ and it would be totally wasted.
I hate myself for buying dogshit products. I own a shitty macbook, a shitty gaming laptop, a shitty nintendo switch 2. When will I actually gain respect for myself and build a """cheap budget pc""" that can do anything I want?
DDR5 memory prices are ridiculous!
>>108876619
What do I upgrade?Current specs:9800X3D96GB DDDR5RTX 5080
>>108876634What are you trying to do?
>>108876647Dunno really.Been playing a lot of Vintage Story lately.
>>1088766608TB SSD
>>108876634Your CPU needs more coresAnd your GPU more VRAM.Now you know what to do.
>>108876667
>>108876627This is so fucking dumb. I bought 192gb of DDR5 for about $600 in 2023. I now need to buy 2x32gb for my NAS, and would need to pay more. At least I can still get another 22TB HDD surely for less than I paid back then. WAIT A MINUTE. This is all terrible.
>>108876634all of it
>>1088766349850x3d128gb ddr5rtx 5090
>>108875856he makes the right people seethe. which are slop makers and slop enablers.
>>108876068Every single game I play can easily do 4k60 on a 5070 Ti so I dunno what you're on about
>>108875909>if industry people care about his vids they're not vocal about itYou have to remember that this is the same "industry" that the game mixtape exists in.
>>108876764My phone can play pong at 4k60
>>108876764DLSS upscaling and cheekily snickering about playing some ancient game at 4k doesn't make it viable, retard.
>RAM/SSD prices so high its tanking the cpu market>9850x3d $450Should I? Is it much of an upgrade for a 7800x3d?
Asked this in another thread but it might be better here:Should I build a PC now and get the best parts I can get or should I wait until next year where all the new DDR6 RAM, GPU, and CPU lines come out?The recent Nvidia 5000 series lineup was full of AI shit and fake frame generation, so is there any confirmation that the upcoming stuff is gonna be more of the same? Is this the last Gen to get "real" hardware with "real" performance? Will scalpers and supply lines still be an issue in 2027 and just fuck my waiting time?I'm thinking of getting an AMD CPU and GPU since it would benefit Isreal the least, but I'm not sure if there is any info you anons may have that would render this idea mute or neutered; work and life has made it hard for me to keep track of AMD, intel, and Nvidia to see who's fucking their customers the least.
>>108877144>upgrading within the same socketWould only make sense if you had some bottom of the barell, but unless you specifically only play something incredibly cpu bound then it's a waste.
>>108877164Alright thanks.
>>108868431i need a case for a 5090 with at least two 5.25 bays.
>>108877598ancient workstations
>>108877161Sadly, more of the same. The 6090 is going to be two 5090s put together when it comes to tensor cores, as alluded to in the DLSS5 announcement, but with marginal improvement in raster due to the extra die space needed for the former.
>>108877677>only $5000!>you watch this motherfucker still gonn' buy it!
>>108877161Rtx6000 should be a die shrunk rtx5000 with more of every structure (shaders, rops, tensors etc.) and more clock speed. And a couple of niche hardware features here and there that won't be used for several years, just like what we saw going from rtx3000 to rtx4000Rdna5 will be a huge uarch upgrade to include all the hardware features that's missing in rdna4, since it's funded by Sony and Microsoft, so it should be on par with rtx5000 in feature set at the least
>>108877161>caring about "real" performance in fake vidya
>>108877677Raster is fine, graphics cards need more PT and tensor performance to make denoising and neural rendering cheaper
>>108877161>DDR6 RAMLmao that isn't coming out for another 4 yearsAM5 still has zen6 and zen7 which will be the latest and greatest until 2030. Intel's upcoming, unreleased lga1954 will be having 3 generations of CPUs up until late 2029, all on ddr5.
ddr5 is a terrible generation, if you're still on ddr4 you should stay in it until ddr6, 5800x3d will carry us to ddr6 easily
>>108877161>DDR6you won't see that till 2030>new rtx cardsThey won't be released until late 2028 and will be paperlaunched vaporware.Hardware is dead. Expect things to only get worse from here on. I don't expect things to het better for another decade atleast. The supply chains are collapsing and mom and pop hardware vendors are being hit hard right now. Raising prices is ine thing, but alot of builders and resellers are having trouble finding stock themselves. Scarcity isn't being fairly reported on. We're in the false sense of abundance stage right now.
>>108877826We never knew how good we had it with near instant training times and 7ns CAS capable b-die ram...
intel leakshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicLIeott6E
CXMT dram chips on corsair memory, the chinese are ahead of schedule
>>108877826>>108877846Is DDR6 going to be any better?From what I know consumer ram is just piggybacking off of server hardware.
>>108878035no one knows but we all expect it has more memory bandwidth
>>108878035No they're just doubling down on the changes made in ddr5 so expect yet longer ram training and diminishing returns in performance
>>108868431Worth upgrading from a 3070 to a 5070 for 1440p aiming at 120-158fps, usually 120fps is more than enough for me, so I cap games at that.CPU is a 12600k
>>108878102no
>>108878102probably, your next actually meaningful upgrade from nvidia is 2x the price.
>>108875856most people have been conditioned since birth to be allergic to the truthand also because he is a grifting piece of shit, all talk, no substance
>why do people hate on *yet another grifting dramatuber*?
just want to say that the monitor market is absolutely atrocious. you have to make such a compromise switching to OLED (which is essentially non-useable if you play static games like cs2 or use any type of productivity program). I want a 4k, 32 inch option with a 240hz+ refresh rate and there is literally no option. I'm forced to stay with my gigabyte mu32 144hz for now which is great but I just want more hz for what I'm using it for
IPS chads stay winning.
ultrawide fast VA 240hz for production/gaming/browsing + 4k60 oled for watching stuff, there, I fixed it for (You)
my 5 year old GPU crashes every time I run a computer game, likely an unfixable hardware issue. I am in despair
>>108878388>ultrawide>gaminglol
>>108876627oh no, haha. I got pic related combo for $1700 in February.
>>108878395What GPU.
>>108877097DLSS upscaling does in fact make it viable, faggot
>>108878490GIGABYTE RTX 2080 TI 11GB GDDR6 GV-N208TWF3-11GC PCI Express 3.0 x16 Video Card
>>108878395when did you last repaste it?
>>108878578you can repaste GPU?
>>108878578normies don't do maintenance and don't monitor computer temps
>>108878388>VA>Gaming>>108878469? There's nothing better than ultrawide for gaming
>>108878849they dont make ultrawide ips
>>108878862did they stop making them? i have an IPS ultrawide that i got years ago (34gn850-b).
>>108878946very rare, VA got a lot better these last few years with respect to dark smearing
Is 3080 a good choice for my i5 gen11? I want to upgrade it from 1660ti. It costs only $400 for used one. I want to keep my ddr4 16gb so I won't upgrade my cpu.
>>108879046get a 5060ti 16gb
oh, thanks. I will look into it. Because of vram. right?
>>108879104not just that but because paying $400 for a used 3080 is very very dumb
>>108878862Not anymore you meanI literally have a 34" ips monitor on my table right now
>>10887910410gb vram aside, 3080 uses a ton of power and runs pretty hotIt's not even that fast these days compared to newer midranged GPUs
>>108879129I forget to mention I'm from Thailand. Pc parts are 30% more expensive compared to the west. I can buy it cheaper from FB marketplace, but I don't want to risk. So I end up going to one of most customer trustworthy pc shop here. >>108879186Thanks a lot.
>be me>Never had a computer of my own>Bosses son passes>She gives me a bunch of parts in a box >Says I can have them I just need to take it somewhere to build>Absolutely no idea what I have>Walk into PC repair store to see if they will build>Two elderly Asians >Their eyes light up as I explain >They are frantically grabbing things from the box >Something appears to involve water>They start mixing it with their own parts and start semi building>"You need a power supply, do you know what one?">I say I'm not sure>Their eyes light up woman says "he doesent know about computers">Feel absolute dread >Parts are spread amongst other parts on different desks I have no idea what's mine.>$1070 thanks plus taxI still need to buy a mouse, keyboard and a windows subscription
better be a shitpost
>>108879428dont you find it engaging to waste time reading ai gen noise
>>108879381mouse+kb are easy as shit, you can probably ask around family and friends and get some for free.I have like 2 spare mice and 2 spare keyboards sitting in my closet. One kb does double-tap though.
>>108868431I'm stuck with AM4 motherboard so I have to pick between 5 5600 or 7 5800 to upgrade 5 1600.5800 is nice, but I would have to get new CPU cooler, because gemini says even my NH-U9S can't handle it.
>>108879548get a 5700x then
>>108879548also, only two is stocks, 5600 GT is already gone so these might be the last unused 5600 T in all of Europe
>>108879552I would if x would be avalaible only standard 5700 is availableand I'm told that is a laptop junk
>>108879548wait and see if x3d cpus come out300€ version was released in indiawhich is honestly typical amd marketing behavior of fucking everything up, but you know
>>108879381jesus fuck you should've just posted here firstgo to >>>/g/fwt for activating windows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EptX8Wxog0k
>>108879381It's never been this over
>>108879663 his issues are a bit of a (you) problem>heres native, just so we can compare this setting no one uses>i want pt on amd so I can make graphs, even tho amd pt sucks and no one would play a game using it
>>1088797205 games have pt and non of them are good
>>108879732>>108879732>>108879732>>108879732