My TV just downloaded an update that added POP-UP ADS at the bottom of the screen. Not even when you're browsing the TV's list of apps, but literally it appears on top of whatever source you're looking at through HDMI. Thankfully you can turn it off, but holy shit I didn't expect that. It's not some cheap piece of shit TV either, it's the LG CX, which was the most premium OLED TV you could buy when it came out in 2020, and only just now did they add the pop-up ads.
>>108870772>My TV just downloaded an updatewhy was it connected to the Internet
>connecting your "smart" tv to the internet even onceshiggy diggy doo
>>108870823>>108870825Sometimes the firmware updates are useful. I do use an external streaming device but it doesn't hurt to leave it connected to WiFi, at least it hasn't until now.
>>108870862Smart TVs are a jokejust get a normal TV / monitor and connect some e-waste laptop (or a RPi if you want to be fancy)
>>108870870I don't think they even make TVs anymore that don't have smart features.
>>108870896I quickly googled and found some models optionally sold with no OS installed on themHell, online storefronts have "Smart TV" as an optional filter
>>108870910I think any TV that doesn't have smart features is also going to either be a piece of shit TV, or not designed for consumers at all and won't have the kind of picture processing you'd want for serious movie watching. I don't care if a TV has smart features built into it. I was just shocked by the introduction of pop-up ads, even though it was easy to disable them.
>>108870929>I was just shocked by the introduction of pop-up adslol how new are you on /g/>even though it was easy to disable themlmaoif you're new on /g/ then please listen to Stallman talks
>>108870933I've just had the TV since 2020 and the pop-ups only started yesterday.
>>108870937that means that your device is now "obsolete" and LG wants to to scrap pennies from (You) and/or to make you buy a new TV
>>108870940The PS5 came out in 2020. I was planning to buy a new TV when the PS6 comes out. My TV still works great but I figure enough time will have passed then that an upgrade would be worth looking at.
Stop updating a year or so after it was released. At some point the manufacturer doesn't care anymore and updates make the experience worse.
>>108870772JUST get a bigger screen
>>108870862When has a firmware update ever been useful?
>>108871107On LG's most recent flagship OLED the G6, which just came out. It shipped with some issues where Filmmaker mode wasn't as accurate as it should've been, and they've been releasing firmware updates to improve it.
>>108871112>the firmware update improved the 'function' that is (supposed..) to switch off all the other additional shit 'picture enhancing improvements' no-one needs
>>108871107Devices always come to early to market. So first updates will fix things that the software team hadn't time to finish.
>>108870772I got an LGCX and turned off its internet connection after that one update that changed the home page because I could feel this coming
>>108871121It's not just that, it had to do with color accuracy
I turned it off.
>>108871248>her TV needs a special mode to unfuck the deliberately fucked-up color accuracy>it doesn't even work anywayWhy wouldn't you just make your TV color accurate from the get-go
>>108870772I never connected my LG g4 to the internet for this reason. I knew an update would come that would fuck everything up at some point
>>108871299I don't know why it wasn't more on target out of the box, but it's not as simple as just "make it accurate."
>>108871315>but it's not as simple as just "make it accurate."It literally is, sister.
>>108870772>My TV Do goyim really?
I see a future where the smart TV motherboard is ripped out and an aftermarket board is welded in turning the TV into a monitor.
>>108870823>blaming the victimFuck off, TVs shouldn't even have a wifi adapter or ethernet port in the first place.
>>108871721It's like saying crack shouldn't have fentanyl in it. True but maybe stop buying crack.
>>108871678Do zoomers really not have TVs?
>>108873171i think anon is memeing that op thinks he can "own" a modern tv, while lg is able to deprecate it with one software update
>>108870823Fpbp>>108871721So why was it connected then?
It's amazing how LG is actually worse than literally chinese companies like Hisense.
>>108871107I think one of Sony's most recent OLEDs was being criticized for overly aggressive auto dimming to protect the panel, and they updated it to be less aggressive.
>>108871107I had a TV which would make weird rippling on the left size of the screen, firmware update fixed it.
>>108873725>goycattle consoomers asking for their product's lifespan to be shortened because MUH HDRall because they're poorfags who can't afford to buy a few blackout curtains for when they want to consoom a movie
>>108873765The luminance setting on the TV has nothing to do with it. If the TV detects the average luminance of the scene hasn't changed in a little bit, even if you're watching a movie, it'll start to dim itself, even if it's a movie in SDR. Pretty much all OLEDs do this, but I think the Bravia 8 II was doing it way too quickly.
I feel for you anon, I have an LG and I'll never buy another. Grandma updated it and now it's slow as molasses. I should have isolated it from the net but too late now. And there's no crack to downgrade the OS from this version yet.
https://www.lg.com/us/support/contact/email-to-president
>>108871315And that's supposed to be a flagship model? I don't even want to know how much this absolute dogshit costs.
You are now aware that every smart tv manufacturer purposefully releases their tvs with critical firmware flaws that REQUIRE you to connect your tv to the Internet to get a properly working tv because they know once you connect it one single time you'll be too retarded to stop it phoning home to load 5 GB of ads per day forever. Reminder that 75% of the profit made from selling tvs comes from the ads and selling your browsing data and not the tv itself.
>>108870772Oh shit, I just got a popup for 04.64.00 on my 48" CX... I'm gonna pull!
>Just buy a commercial tv bro>Having to pay the luxury tax for something as goddamn basic as a dumb tv
i have a 4K 50'' digital signage monitor from iiyama and a set top box running openatv where i have root. it may not be latest oled or microled or something, but the picture quality is good enough.leave this shit behind anon, come home.just take note that even in digital signage world connectivity rot is spreading. the model i have is like one of the very few that don't have android and a wifi module.
>>108873832The G6 is their flagship model, yeah. By all accounts, the firmware updates greatly improved it and it's a great TV now. I don't know why they shipped it the way they did.
>>108873906I just set it to not load up the home screen when you turn the TV on. It just goes to whatever was the last HDMI input you used. I never see the Home Screen unless I accidentally hit the home button.
>>108873983I love movies more than anything, I have my expensive Blu-ray player and I got the best TV that I could get when I bought one. I have my nice external speaker system, and I'm all about getting a great experience for movies and video games. I simply need the perfect black levels and infinite contrast of an OLED screen, and I'll settle for nothing less. I don't have a problem with leaving a TV connected to the internet to grab firmware updates. I don't use it for anything else on the internet, I have external devices for that. If you don't want the TV making hashes of what you're watching, they all give you a way to turn that off.
>>108870929>picture processing >to watch moviesbrainrot I had to watch a movie like that not too long ago at someone’s house. Absolutely disgusting, retarded color grading on top of frame smoothing making a movie look like Mexican soap opera
>>108874216That's not what it means. A TV has to tone map the HDR, that's picture processing that's non-negotiable. If it's an LED TV, the TV has to figure out which of the backlights has to come on and at what brightness, and what the color filters are doing. Some TVs do this better and faster than others.
>>108874243Oh, and TVs vary in how well they upscale 1080p content, which is still a lot of the content that people watch.
>>108871107my a80j needed an update to get VRR support
>>108870772if you are really a customer you could complain directly to the company or start a legal class action and I'm sure millions of LG and Samsung customers would join in. if you don't force the companies to stop doing it legally, they will get worse
>>108870772>2026 year of our Lord>Not running DNS adblockISHYGDDT
>>108870772jailbreak it you fucking retardyouve had this tv for 6 years and you havent jailbroken it yet?
>>108874492>jailbreak>tvI don't think this is a thing but I hope it catches on. we should get a bounty going
>>108874492LG patched the exploits and now all you can do is using the developer mode.It's not worth it. I just left webOS because it's a piece of shit and now I am on a Steam Deck, couldn't be happier.
>>108874552https://rootmy.tv/
>>108874552holy clueless>>108874562he said he has a CX, which predates the exploits.
>>108870937Are you a britfag?Don't you have an org you can send a complaint to ?
>>108874591>holy cluelessyou don't know everything either anon>>108874568>https://rootmy.tv/thanks but we need one for samsung because they are actually good screens
>>108870823>>108870825>>108871193>>108871272>>108871306>xhe ignores the hidden 5G chip
>>108874725>Schizo thinks manufacturers are wasting 5g chips to spy on fat fuck americans
I'm surprised there's been no collective effort to crack and jailbreak TV sets.
>>108871112>LG G6>you need to make an LG account to use streaming services and appsEven more problems.https://youtu.be/VfD9sOYhDiQ?t=960
I'm doing research for a huge home theater TV"This is the “enshittification” layer:home screen adsforced accountstelemetry/trackingcontent recommendationsvoice assistantsautomatic content recognition (ACR)sponsored rowsdata collection about viewing habitsMany TVs now behave more like ad platforms than displays.This is especially true on:SamsungLGRoku TVsFire TVsImportant reality: almost all TVs are “smart” nowThere is basically no mainstream high-end dumb TV market anymore."
>>108875307You can turn almost all of that stuff off. You might have to look some stuff up because they hide it in menus under weird names, but I'm not aware of any TV brand that doesn't have an option to turn basically all of that stuff off. If you're putting in a lot of money for the best home theater experience you can get, you should buy an Apple TV 4K and do all your streaming through that. Totally ad free, and the apps will run better than they do on the built-in TV apps, especially after you've had the TV for a few years.
>>108875344Nvidia Shield Tv with Kodi is all I need
>>108874851were the modRNA "vaccines" not proof enough for you?
>>108870870>just get a normal TV Is it even possible in this day and age? I bought a TV recently and every model in the store was a smart TV
>>108875390Not really. There might be one or two models, but they're shit TVs that you wouldn't want anyway. It's really not that big a deal. Just buy the best TV your budget allows and you don't have to connect it to the internet. Use a USB stick to update the firmware if you're that paranoid.
>>108870772Far more worrying: LG TV's upload a screenshot of whatever is on them every 15 seconds.They are sold to advertisers who use them to targets ads, but it could be you opening a password manager or watching some tasteful nudity.Article in Dutch but https://www.totaaltv.nl/nieuws/jouw-samsung-of-lg-smarttv-bespioneert-je-privacy-te-koop-voor-een-goedkopere-televisie/
>>108875417Every TV brand does this, it's not as bad as it sounds, but every brand gives you a way to turn this off.
>>108870772Imagine ever connecting one of those things to the internet.
>>108875467>it's not as bad as it soundsIt's even worse than it sounds, you mean.
>>108870772It's a real shame that LG's displays have *by far* the best image quality because their software is some of the absolute worst dogshit I have ever had to experience.
>>108875489I guess I just don't really care that some advertising firm has information that my advertising ID watched Ted Lasso
>>108875525That won't stop it from taking pictures of your passwords.
>>108875544It's literally a setting you can turn off in the menu
>>108870772Best value TV for me is a 32 inch Samsung LCD TV. It's 720p, has decent speakers (probably because of its thickness) and HDMI. When my parents bought it new (Iirc around 15 years ago), it was the main TV in the living room. Then my monitor died and I used it for a few weeks before a new monitor arrived. Now it runs movies in the kitchen through an android TV box.
>>108875544None of you are *actually* feeding sensitive information into your smart TVs, r-right anons...?
Nobody's looking at screenshots of your passwords. They are trying to match content from your TV to their database of content to see what you're watching and playing. If they can't match it to anything, nobody's going to personally examine it. And again, while the feature is on by default, you can always just turn it off.
>>108875590I use a 48" C4 as my monitor, and even THAT has no internet connection. Why the fuck would I update? LG isn't going to invent new colors or anything.
>>108875605If you've never updated the firmware then you probably should, because sometimes they really do improve performance, or as discussed earlier, can fix flaws that made the colors or brightness inaccurate to what they're supposed to be.
>>108870772My family members used my tv and updooted my oled c1, now its all slow and shit.Fuck my life.
>>108875590>review terms of useI never even accepted the TOS of my shartTV how fucking cucked can you be?
>>108875627Sorry LG rep, I am very happy with the picture and colors on my C4. You did gud.I can always adjust color accuracy with my big-boy brain.
>>108875590Middle range and low range tvs are getting so cheap that they have to recoup the costs from somewhere else. It’s a very strange business model.
>>108870772Never buy a """smart""" tv kids
>>108875467>every brand gives you a way to turn this off.In the case of LG you have to untick all the terms of service consent check boxes.Which is a way of doing it but not a clear one many people understand.If they made it a toggle "upload screenshots yes/no" most people would turn it off but most people just accept all the terms of service without reading and don't realize this makes their TV spy on them.
>>108875678Sure would be nice if today's "dumb" TVs didn't completely suck
>>108875687There's no alternative. A shit TV like >>108875713 is not an alternative.
>>108875354Why not pick Verto V? It also supports AV1.
>>108870772Keep the TV, new LG OLEDs are dogshit and use pwm dithering, the g6 has better dithering but it's most likely still pwmNew models also have impossible to disable software vignetting on images that don't constantly move and have large areas of similar color(interfaces most commonly) with the banding it causes ofc and they are just a downgrade in everything but brightness and max refresh rate
>>108871721good poster
>>108873171I do. It's a Sanyo CRT TV that is older than me.Can't watch anything on it because analog signal is deprecated.
>>108875467The only way to turn it off is to not give it internet access
>>108875835I'm interested in how future Sony and Panasonic TVs will be now that they're partnering with Chinese companies. If they can maintain the quality standards while bringing the prices down, I think those could be very appealing.
>>108875354Those Walmart onn boxes are good poorfag alternatives, and aren't locked down like you'd expect from Roku, Amazon Fire, etc.
>>108875996Philips is another option that has no association with Chinese companies. And it’s one of the first tvs to get Dolby Vision 2.>Dolby Vision 2 is a next-generation image engine designed to enhance picture quality on TVs by optimizing content based on viewing conditions and improving color reproduction and motion handling. It will be available on select TVs from brands like Hisense, TCL, and Philips in 2026.
>>108874459DNS filtering makes browsing the net dogshit slow like it's 500kbps modem broadband again.
>>108876247Not necessarily, Quad9 is faster than my ISP's DNS resolver (unfortunately this one doesn't offer ad blocking)
>>108876204I don't think we get Philips tvs here in America.
>>108875713And that has android TV anyway.
>>108875996Just avoid mediatek google tv flips(all tv that use a mediatek google tv SoC), they all have the gafam os and inferior SoC with worse input latency and no explicit 2.4/bt.1886 gamma support (BT. 1886 is how most things except sdr modern vidya are meant to be watched on OLED, 2.4 gamma is close enough)sadly this means you have to choose between the only two who still make their own panels and tv os : lg/samsung and both are on an enshittening trend especially lg
>>108875863I think you can get tuner cards for those.
>>108876368Some of their product line does, but not this specific model.
>>108875307>There is basically no mainstream high-end dumb TV market anymore."can always buy a sony TV and set it up in basic mode that's what I did
>>108876643As long as it never touches wi-fi I think its safe. But, smart tvs, its so easy to accidentally hit the netflix or whatever button on the remote or in the menu and it tries to connect. May have to get a basic remote.
>>108876701Oh no worries there Sony pack 2 remotes one of those smart remotes with the mic and netflix buttons and a dumb one that looks like it's from the 80s https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/articles/00280996
>>108870772> still having an electric jew in your home in the year 2026You got what you fucking deserve, goy.
>>108876791AY JANICE SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>108873258My Hisense MiniLED has been the best fucking TV I've ever owned, it's staggering.China numba wan
>>108874243Never had that ont the old CRT. Easier on the eyes too.
>>108875603Youre right. Not a big deal, plus Im getting tired. Anyone else feeling sleepy?
>>108874243>HDRI don't watch recent thing
>>108870823Fpbp>>108870862> Muh updates WHY WOULD YOUR TV NEED TO UPDATE ITS A TV
>>108870929Anon, how do you think people watched movies before they made "Smart" TVs?
>>108870937>>108870954> Bought TV in 2020> Planning on buying another soonMy little brother is still using the 36' Samsung I bought in 2008 that's been almost always on since it came out of the box. It's now been through three generations of adolescence (mine, my little brother's, and our youngest brother's)
>>108877927Same, ill just keep using my panasonic and samsung 42in plasma TVs from like 2008. They have great black levels. Also an LCD cinema projector setup is still very cool in the right room. Truly blinding brightness and keeps the room cozy warm
>>108870772I have a 2016 LG OLED which has finally started to burn in (~20k hours). I was thinking it would be nice to update to a newer, bigger OLED but now I don't want to touch them. When will there be a dumb TV with a modern panel?
Using a large PC monitor is the best viewing experience. No smart features. Better image too.
>>108877908This question has been answered already in this thread.
>>108878163Getting that much use out of an OLED is great, and they're only getting better at mitigating burn-in. I wouldn't worry about getting another OLED, and the modern ones can get so much brighter than your current one, so the HDR will be a night and day difference.
>>108878421I know the screen technology is far better today, I just don't want ad riddled firmware.
>>108878495I understand, but it only takes a minute when you're setting up to go through the menus and turn everything off that you don't want. The only place you're really forced to see ads is on the home screen when you're selecting a streaming app, but you can also get an external streaming device if that bothers you. You might want to do that anyway because apps start running slow once a TV is a few years old.
>>108878524I'm currently using an NVIDIA Shield, so if I got a new TV I probably wouldn't even connect it to the internet. If there was an option for an open source TV I would 100% go with it, even if I had to settle for a slightly worse panel. The new KDE TV interface looks nice. Luckily for me my Plex server does everything so I don't need any stupid steaming apps. My wife is happy to use sonarr/radarr to add whatever she wants to watch. Actually I'm very lucky that my wife accommodates my want for free software.
>>108871105Reality becomes stranger than fiction
>>108878540Yeah, you don't have to connect the TV to the internet if you don't want to. You definitely should update the firmware when you get a new TV, but you can always do it with a USB stick if it bothers you that much.
>>108873171Zoomers do not watch movies, television shows or series. They only live stream and watch live stream of their favorite eceleb retard.
>>108877614I've been impressed with TCL and Hisense to be honest, and they performed well in the RTINGS torture test, TCL especially. I bought a cheap TCL because it came with Android, it's slow and laggy, but my parents can connect to my Jellyfin server to watch films. My Hisense has VIDAA OS which is pointless and doesn't have any of the software I'd like to install (smarttube, jellyfin etc.), but at least it's very fast and responsive. >>108878163Just don't get an LG, I have a Hisense OLED with an LG panel, it doesn't have pop-up ads or anything, when you turn it on it goes directly to the last HDMI input.The problem is of course there's always going to be "sponsored content" on the home page of the interface when you open it.
>>108878608I got a TCL and the software is buggy and absolutely full of ads they even inserted them into the fucking channel list the evil chinks.But I followed a russian debloat guide and now I have basically the best TV in that price range. It doesn't even lag that much.
>>108875728>there is no alternativeExcept there is, you're just too dumb to buy an advertising display.
>>108870823FPBP never connected mine for this very reason.Never updated my monitor, why would I update my TV.
>>108879177It's been explained numerous times in this thread why you would update a TV.
>>108870823Fpbp>>108870772Put an ad blocker in front of your router. There are guides.
>>108870929If crts exist for every basedjack faced nintendo addict, there's definitely some dumb flatscreens for /g/ skitzos. Making an argument that they are just non-existent is suspiciously retarded.
>>108874851>your phone literally uses "5g" communications5g means 5th generation, it's not technical nomenclature. There's no physical chip dedicated to it, it's just a communication protocol.If there is a conspiracy, it could be stuffing comms with more identifiers, or maybe that speeds don't actually get better but rather throttle previous gen communications (i.e. 4g), or that it's a distraction away from epstein or flock cameras, and rapidly developed bypartisan ID verification laws
>>108870823FippybippyUse a pc connected to your TVIn capitalist America TV watches you.
>>108870772It's so messed up that a product that you PAID for and OWN can display ads. Once upon a time ads were reserved for websites and services that you used for free. But companies kept on shifting the overton window to sneak ads into more shit over time. It's so insidious.
>>108881620Number has to go up, man... don't you care about shareholder value?
>>108870772Thank god i don't own a modern TV
>>108875590Does Europe have to do everything again. Why isn't it opt out by default on pain of the executives facing a firing squad.
>>108881620The ads are how premium TVs can be affordable for the average consumer. Reasonable sacrifice to make I'd say.
