Whats the point of programming? AI can build anything. I just made a spotify app and a website with ai.
I want to make a video game where sprites of cute anime girls fart in each other's faces using AI and some simple sprite sheets. AI apparently can't utilize any game engine. only provide code that you have to work with yourself.
>>108877865AI needs to be trained with existing programming. It can't program something that doesn't exist yet.
cause it's fun and using your brain is rewardingbut vibe coder normies will never understand
>>108877865Impressive, now sit back and count the millions pouring in.
>>108878989Do you find it funny that your snide remarks about AI are potentially destabilizing to the world economy? Because I don't.
>>108877865The reason is you have to guide it, and you can't do that without at least a bit of understanding how things work.I use opus 4.6 and I love it. It's smart as hell. But I still have to check on it because it often writes functions that are already there, do things in a weird way that is hard to understand later etc.
>>108877865can you post a screenshot of each?
I just like doing it.
>>108877865Today a customer of mine said "life is good I can just pay your Claude max and the modding service and get to be a god on [REDACTED]" after I did a custom client with some, well let's say way nicer skins and "qol perks" compared to players playing vanilla, for the game he's a junkie on and it lasted 3 or 4 updates until I had to make it work again and its still going strong.
>>108879028you are doing it wrong if you are looking at the code.codex app doesn't even have a code editor.
>>108877865I asked AI to code a USB interface for a retro console for me and it couldn't do it.
>>108879000>Do you find it funny that your snide remarks about AI are potentially destabilizing to the world economy?Yes.
>>108879196skill issues.should have given codex a skill to probe the console.
>>108879203Yeah, AI has serious skill issues.Webshit it can copypaste from websites are fine. Novel shit it can't begin to put together.
>>108878261vibe coding is fun.>>108878248nobody made the thing i built with ai. thats why i had to make it.
>>108879218It can however teach you how to approach the problem and do it yourself. It can teach you a lot about the underlying tech, what to probe, what kind of things to interact with and if you can't figure this out, you're going to miss the AI window while screaming at it to do all your work for you instead of using it effectively.
>>108879181>you are doing it wrong if you are looking at the code.Must look at the code sorry. I can't trust these things 100%
I'm leaving webdev after 20 years and going into manufacturing. Got a small workshop set up and had some specialized machinery delivered from China. It's still kind of a form of systems building and frameworks it's just in the real world now, you'd be surprised how many of the skills carry over. I'm honestly not upset about it because even before I came out I was really starting to hate it and suffering from a gradually escalating desire to work with my hands instead of sitting on the screen all fucking day. There's something kind of satisfying about making physical products.
>>108879218codex can bit bang just fine. user error here.
>>108879234>It can however teach you how to approach the problem and do it yourself.I can do that myself.>It can teach you a lot about the underlying tech, what to probe, what kind of things to interact with When it tries it gets important things wrong.The best it does is point me in directions to get better information (often just places I have already found).
>>108879314>When it tries it gets important things wrong.you need to give codex feedback, see https://lucasgerads.com/blog/lecroy-mcp-spice-demo/
>>108879259Web dev has been shit from its conception since early 2000s. You are not really a graphic designer or a developer either. I can't even imagine the amount of bullshit what goes behind the scenes of any current javascript monstrosities.
>>108877865>I just made a spotify app and a website with ai.link?
>>108879325Looks boring af.
>>108877865Literal children have been making these things for decades now, the real question you should be asking yourself is why can't you.
>>108879337This.Ironically, webdev is one of the hardest development fields, but that's for completely wrong reasons.
>>108879449Devs are like the ultimate cucks. The bulls who don't even understand anything about it take your product and get rich selling it while you only sit there and watch - and still somehow feel like you're the lucky one because some other dev gunning for your job didn't even get that much.It's pathetic.
>>108879746>I won't do anything without monetary incentivegood morning sir
>>108879000What's funny is how many retards don't understand the point of such comments, and vastly overestimate the value of programming in a vacuum. You might think you vibeslopped a spotify clone but did you actually? Anyone could play music on a website using embed tags decades ago, which was even easier than prompting. Actual spotify is a combination of marketing, business deals with big name content producers, infrastructure (CDN, servers, etc), monetization strategies, shit to block unregistered users and bots, and so on. They have fancy recommendation algorithms too but that's basically the icing on the cake.You can clone Spotify's website all you want and nothing will happen unless you manage to trick people into thinking it's actual Spotify on which case you'll get sued into oblivion for trademark and copyright violations.
>>108877865>I just made a spotify app and a website with ai.Will you maintain it for years and years and build a community around it, or throw it away and rebuild it from scratch every time a new, smarter model pops up?That’s what I thought... People who do serious work like to know how things work under the hood, how they’re made, and like to trust in established tools with long track records of code audits (ssh, for example). That’s where knowing at least something about programming makes the difference.Of course, those very same people who build these systems can also use, and do use, AI for lots of menial tasks. But knowing things in depth gives them an edge you’ll never get until you start learning something in depth instead of offloading every thinking process to the AI.
>>108877865>gm sir i build tool that do the needful kindly redeem the subscribings and revert back with the same
AI can only build prototype appsTry serving 500 mil users with your AI slop cloneIt is true though that building MVPs/prototypes is pretty much solved and any idiot can build something that sort of works
>>108877865you could've gotten the same functionality by just using the spotify appyou could've cloned some open source spotify client and paired it with some open source front end and customize the layout and functionalities in a few hoursbut now you get to vibe code your own client (probably using the same open source code either directly or indirectly) that may be moderately functional but will require constant vibe maintenance to keep up until, one day, maybe it works most of the timewow amazing progress!
>>108877865>I just made a spotify app and a website with ai*you* didn't make anythingyou phoned a corporate slave robot and asked it to do do it for you for an undefined price
>>108878248>It can't program something that doesn't exist yetblatantly false. unless you're doing research on some new algorithm (you're not), most of programming is just gluing pieces that someone else made together anyways, or building your own piece to glue to the others based on pre-existing work.
>>108877865>webshit>programmingMid-tier bait.
