why do i keep seeing these 'cyberdecks' on social media that are glorified jank/diy laptops when an actual cyberdeck is something closer to neuralink
>>108880971You can just buy used ipad mini with 5g and have cyberdeck with internet and software support.
>>108881053>ipad>software supportfucking lmao. those things have m4 processors and they have cucked them with ipados
>>108881053it doesnt have dermatrodes and a connection to cyberspace which are parts of a cyberdeck. closest thing off-the-shelf to dermatrodes are these commercial EEG crowns. even those are very low-ress read-only version of what dermatrodes are
>>108881130What
>>108880971Because most people don't have ready access to sci-fi style brain interfaces?
>>108881149have you ever used an ipad? they put this insanely powerful cpu in it and then block you from actually using it. to add insult to injury the whole system basically runs in a vm that saps 2/3 of the performanceonly idiots buy these pcs
>>108881219iOS has a wonderfully rich and diverse software ecosystem. Nothing you are saying makes any sense.
>>108880971Bored manchildren with excess income trying to feel cool by having an awkward laptop
>>108880971>an actual cyberdeck is something closer to neuralinkwhy do they call it cyberdeck, then? wouldn't they just call it cyberlink? cybercable? cyberwire?
>>108881225how to install software?
>>108881314It's lifted from Neuromancer, that's why. "Cyberspace Deck" is what it was called in that series. Shorten it and it becomes cyberdeck.
>>108880971Because cyberpunk media is really dated now, and has become more defined by that dated appearance than by being a vision of the future. So now when people think of cyberpunk, the first thing they think of is "what people in the 80s thought the 2020s would be like". Therefor the most important part of a cyberdeck, the part which makes them want one, isn't the BCI, but the fact that it still had a mechanical keyboard with full height keys and a monochrome plasma display attached for no reason.
>>108881053>software support>5g>you can justDefeats the purpose, which is to make your own janky diy laptop. If its easy, preassembled, and supported by someone else, then its not a cyberdeck, its just an ipad.
>>108881314iirc they were described as keyboards you connect electrodes into to connectot cyberspace. mostly because at the time keyboard was a very common form factor for computers (pic related). as for 'deck' look up tape decks and cassette decks. those were the common interfaces people knew so they thought 'what if we had a cassette deck to access the cyberspace' (arpanet being the closest thing to cyberspace at the time)
>>108881373Can you post a picture of one?
>>108881053Cyberdeckers want to larp as cyberpunk and there is nothing less punk on this planet than apple devices.
>>108881413It's a book, nigga. It's words.
>>108881405>'what if we had a cassette deck to access the cyberspace'That seems to be the same concept behind these social media cyberdecks. An intentionally dated and clunky device (like a tape deck) used to access cyberspace (or as well call it the internet).
>>108881435No one ever drew a picture based on the book's description?
>>108881392trends die off and come back like how good keyboards died in the 90/00ss for cheap membrane slop and only got good again in the 10salso the snow-crash version or 'cyberdecks'/cyberspace is basically a valve index (2k res, 72hz)
>>108881435There was a graphic novel adaptation. Here's a picture of the cyberspace deck in that one. Looks even clunkier than the stuff people are showing off on social media. But it does still have the general look that they do.
>>108881449Been a long time since I read it, but I don't think it's described in great detail. But here's some random art off google. In this picture its the thing on the dude's waist, including the wires up to his head, since it's a neuro interface.
>>108881323Ok
>>108881441yea people forget neuromancer was written like ~10 years before the internet, i think social media cyberdecks kind of try to imitate the aesthetics of cyberpunk illustrations without trying to imitate the underlying tech a lot of which has become reality or very accessible since.like while most tech in snow-crash is still scifi you can kinda get better vr than snow crash with off the shelf vr today and 'the metaverse' is basically vrchat (except it has somehow become a very troon-centric thing for some reason).
>>108881520>(except it has somehow become a very troon-centric thing for some reason).Cyberpunk itself trooned out, anon. I'm sure the idea of a fantasy world where you can put a wire in your head and "know kungfoo" is very attractive to troons who wish they could download being a woman.
>>108880971It is like all these Cyberduck, Raspberry Pi etc. They are meme fashion toys for non-tech-savvy people.
>>108881476>and only got good again in the 10sI don't think people are after just a good keyboard, but specifically the look, feel, and user serviceability of 80s portable computers. >also the snow-crash version or 'cyberdecks'/cyberspace is basically a valve indexI imagine most people don't even know the specific origin of the term. They just know of cyberpunk in general, which over time has shifted from being a primarily futuristic work, to an incredibly dated one. Making the brain wires and advanced interfaces secondary in importance compared to the incredibly dated devices they were always attached to.
>>108881520>without trying to imitate the underlying tech a lot of which has become reality or very accessible since.Makes sense. That tech was the special part of cyberpunk when it was written. You could get your hands on an all in one 8-bit microcomputer like the one in that picture, but you couldn't wire it into your brain and experience virtual reality. Now virtual reality is a fad from five years ago, and BCIs are a things idiots who simp for billionaires and cripples are interested in. Meanwhile the 8-bit microcomputer with mechanical components that you can fully customize and control is the fantasy. So the latter is what people of today focus on when they thing of cyberpunk.>(except it has somehow become a very troon-centric thing for some reason).So has punk. Its just the fad among social outcasts and weirdos at the moment.
>>108881496i always found thsi illustration cool af like that's actually neuromancer in the bust in the top right but this never happens in the book iirc. they never fight the guards they sneak in though ventilation ducts or something (molly and case) while riviera talks his way in and the only fight is between the ninja and riviera >>108881537i love the idea of transhumanism but hate nothing more than this larp of pretending you have transcended when you didnt. its basically fake transhumanist larp in a world where there's people building real transhumanism. whats more retarded is that people like the wachowskis like 'want to be women' isnt something that is impossible. we could conceivable come up with the tech in 10-20 years but they would rather larp as if they did it than actually persue doing it. giving transhumanism a bad name in general.
>>108880971>why do i keep seeing these 'cyberdecks' on social mediaProbably because you go on social networks where the point is to be pointlessly social>ooo look at me keyboard :3Like what were you expecting dude.
>>108881612transgenders have poisoned the idea of transhumanism for me. Now I see it and it just looks like being a tranie, but for your entire biology instead of just gender.
I'm not trying to discredit your guys theroies on fantasy and shit like that. But I legit just want an "ssh machine" and that's what these things are. For me and people I know that have them, it's not deeper than that. Not for aesthetics or trying to be cool, it's for portability, pragmatic when you travel a lot and already have a good workstation at home you can remote into.
>>108881640Why do you need a cyberdeck specifically for that? Couldn't any laptop do that? Or even a phone?
>>108881675Laptop does more than what I need. Low power is longer battery.I just need a dumb terminal, not a portable workstation like most laptops are.A phone works fine but is essentially the same thing. The only difference really is whether the keyboard is attached or not.
>>108881675Phone would be pretty shit but yes, a regular laptop is functionally superior to a homemade "cyberdeck" in pretty much every way.
>>108881630i dont let anyone 'poison' any idea for me i feel like doing that is opening your psyche to free external control for anyone wanting to replicate this poisoning with other ideas.the primary detestable thing about troonism is the same as many other detestable ideas and it's the fakeness of it. the act of wanting to say and believe a thing you know isnt real, basically taking the blue pill in the matrix. a decade from now someone will publish a git repo of 'run this on your neuralink to basically switch troonness on/off and gayness on/off wish a cli argument' that will be actual transhumanism.>>108881640your phone with termux is an ssh machine, or any basic cheap laptop. when i think portable ssh machine i think sub 10 inch laptop like those gpd ones but those DIY 'cyberdecks' are often very big and clunky. some of the ones ive see have actual cool shit in them like SDRs,wifi adapters you can packet capture on and shit like that but most are glorified shitty diy laptops trying to replicate aesthetics of 90s/80s cyberpunk illustrations.
>>108881763Computah, make these guys gay and in love
>>108881763>when i think portable ssh machine i think sub 10 inch laptop like those gpd ones but those DIY 'cyberdecks' are often very big and clunky.Reminds me of the 'netbooks' from like 15 years ago. I bet a tinkerer could gut one of those things and add more modern hardware (even a raspberry pi or whatever) and make a more compact 'deck'
There are already so many neat portable devices but they're ruined by being locked down. I wanted to turn my ebook reader into a low power linux box for writing on the go, but nope the manufacturer locked the bootloader and removed the links to downgrade the firmware to something hackable.
>>108881988just get a no-brand 200$ chinese new 14 inch laptop, i won one for experimenting/fucking aorund withoung endangering my main machine and its slow as shit but actually supports shit like UEFI,secureboot,TPM so you can have an encrypted and secured ssh machine
>>108880971Because it's pretty much just roleplaying. Nerds being nerdy and pimping up their hobby-toys. I would advice you not to "think about it too hard", but I'm still triggered at how people call retarded skateboards that do not hover "hover boards"
>>108882086romanians did make a hoverboardbut the dude's water-rocker company crashed because the idea is kinda retarded i think he wanted to scam the EU while riding the whole 'eco/green' hype wave so the hoverboard died too
>>108882070Well yeah but I figure people who are making 'cyberdecks' want something chunkier and DIY. Something different in some aspect than just a small cheap laptop
>>108882151i do like the idea of exploring difference form factors of computing its gotten stale since smartphones/laptops came around even smartwatches are boring as shit compared to how i imagined them before they existed
>>108882179It would make better sense to strap it to a knee or thigh
>>108881423Incredibly based>Fapple fanboiz can cope and seethe
>>108882179>>108882193>It would make better sense to strap it to a knee or thighTechnically qwerty keyboards are designed to be operated with the left hand so strapping it to the left arm is the most disadvantageous position you could find.Whoever put that on their laft arm is fucking retarded.
>>108880971One of my friends out of nowhere asked me how to build a cyberdeck I don't even know what this shit is
>>108881537>Trooned outNigga, if you don't want me to listen and pull out a pistol, then talk like that in person. Fuckin' Chud ass bitch nigga shit about sci-fi type shit tryna derail about garbage laptops that chicks hate. Basic troons use basic bitch tech, you ignorant cuntflap. Where yo mama at? I ain't callin' her back.
>>108881134This looks infuriating to use. Truly we live in the cyberpunk future they warned about.*synthwave intensifies*
>>108882246I read this in an indian accent.
>>108882179Should definitely remove the clock from the taskbar, it's redundant with the watch
>>108881630There's nothing wrong with using transhumanism technology to change one's gender. In fact, if that technology really existed, that would be one of the most common usages of it.
>>108882179ts is not tuff
>>108882303What is transhumanism?
this would be the ideal 'portable ssh machine' if the keyboard was landscape and not portraitthe only thing i actually open termux for unless docked is to do a 1 line ping command occationally both with a keyboard it would be useful for terminal work while remaining mobile>>108882267i highly recommend her (perrikaryal) longer videos where she explains the whole thing its basically tailor made to her. she attaches the eeg and produces various wave patterns with her mind on the graphs, then binds those patterns as 'keys' in the game.a meta neural band + EEG crown + smartglasses would be a cool af 'cyberdeck'
>>108880971>on social mediahttps://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/cyberdeck/start/2012-01-01/order/asc
>>108882404kek my thread is there
>>108882246Like we'd meet. You only go in public to molest children, troon.
>>108881314still need the keyboard, the "deck" as it were.
