>>108853420Don't buy anything other than IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)Why ThinkPad?>Used machines are plentiful and cheap>Utilitarian design: e.g. mix of old and new ports, stable keyboard layout>Easy to repair, upgrade (some models) & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals, spare parts easy to obtain>Usable in cramped quarters thanks to the TrackPoint>Excellent Linux & *BSD supportThinkWiki - General infohttps://www.thinkwiki.org/Model generations:>Classic IBM: T40-T42>IBM/Lenovo transition: T43 T60 T61 (T42-T43: significant spec difference; T43-T60: 64-bit arch)>Classic Lenovo: T400-T430 (T61-T400: 4:3 to 16:10; T410-T420: 16:10 to 16:9; T420-T430: 6-row keyboard, USB 3)>Boxy ultrabooks: T440-T480 (T430-T440: eDP, M.2, soldered CPU; T460-T470: NVMe, USB-C)>Thin above all: T490 T14g1 T14g2 (T480-T490: soldered WiFi (Intel), partly soldered RAM, internal battery only)>TrackPoint on a pig: T14g3 T14g4 (T14g2-T14g3: 16:9 to 16:10, fully soldered RAM/WiFi (AMD), end of mechanical docks)>iFixit-approved TrackPoint on pig: T14g5-... (T14g4-T14g5: Ctrl/Fn swap, camera bump, modular RAM returns)FAQ:>Oldest that won't choke on the modern webLight use: x60YouTube, Gmail etc: xx00(s)>Oldest that drives a 4K monitorxx40(p/s)>Oldest that takes 32 GB RAMX260 T460p/s W510>Lasts full day on batteryT550 T560 X260 xx70 Tx80 T16 and any Lunar Lake>Newest with socketed CPUT440p W541BIOS replacement:https://coreboot.org/ | https://libreboot.org/ | https://canoeboot.org/Supports x60 xx00(s)-xx30(s) T440p W54x T470s Tx80(s)Additional resources:https://dankpads.com/tpg/ | https://biosimage.booru.org | https://github.com/n4ru/1vyrainPatches:https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patcheshttps://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ecChat:##ibmthinkpad on libera | #/tpg/ on rizon
how much Thinking is involved when using this?
In https://rentry.org/concisewin10 I found:>WARNING: A lot of OEMs label their own bloatware (like Lenovo Vantage) as drivers. Be sure to double check what you download (search the internet!) and avoid these programs (unless you intentionally plan on using them, but they often prove to be an unnecessarily heavy load on your system resources, and some of their features can be done by other programs that are free and more lightweight, so do your own research and weigh your choices carefully).Is Lenovo Vantage that bad? I like the battery conservation mode it provides. By setting battery charging treshold you can stop charging your laptop's battery when laptop plugged into a power supply, preserving battery lifespawn. It also provides drivers and BIOS updates with one click.What's your thoughts, is it a bloatware? So far I didn't see any ads.
>>108888190It isn't as bad as some others, but it's still another background process that you might not want especially on older hardware. You can set the battery thresholds outside Windows or uninstall it after setting them, since they're stored in the EC flash.
Why do you keep shilling thinkpads now that framework exists?
>>108888973Literally the nipple
>>108889219Nobody uses that in 2026.
>>108889219literally
>>108889272As someone who daily drives an X200, you're wrong.
>>108888973I dont have a gorillian dollars
>>108889579>Core 2 DuoYou can't even watch youtube on that thing.
> a rare thinkpad appears> omg, it's a powerpc> salivary glands in your mouth are hyperexcited
Do you guys reckon that the newer xx90s and T14's an newer models will last as much as the xx40-80s have? Or do you feel a decline in durability for the time you have been using the newer ones?
>>108889620Yeah you can.
>>108888973>frameworkdogshit build quality shittier than elitebook.
Do you /g/uys know where I can get a cheap ips screen for my x220?also need a new battery.Whats the longest battery life I can get with chink lithium?
>>108891446~self-bumpatleast tell me where you fa/g/s get your batteries for old thinkpads??
>>108891446You can get those on Amazon for a reasonable price. I got a new X200 battery and it worked fine.
>>108888973Trackpad buttons and more portsMiddle button trackpoint scroll is way more effortless than two fingers scrolling
>>108888973Can't afford FW and it's overpriced anyway
>>108884792What's the best distro for a T430 at the moment that doesn't comply with the shitty ID verification and systemD garbage?I was thinking of choosing between:>Void>Artix>PCLinuxOSWhich of these three would be the best? Especially if I want it to be pretty lightweight and want good support for Proton for older games (i.e. Half-Life and TFC)
>>108896995> doesn't comply with the shitty ID verification and systemD garbageJust build a fork yourself, what you not a man?https://github.com/Jeffrey-Sardina/liberated-systemd
Thoughts on the X13s Snapdragon?
any 14 inchers that stay cool and quiet and have a decent battery life? I need something to take to classes it doesn't need to be very powerful just enough to handle web and ms office type stuff
>>108901329Budget? I'd recommend a T14 or a T14s (gen 1).
>>108888973the modular usb c ports are just glorified donglesmy x61 has more ports than that and its smaller
>>108888973I have a framework, but have been unhappy with it recently so I'm going to buy a thinkpad.
>>108888973Too expensive.>>108896995I'm curious about that too. I'll check out Void and Artix at some point.Also can you lads dump your Thinkpad setups with animu girls? I need to start saving them
>>108901839>Budget?I forgot, about 200-ish euros would be nice but I'm open to any recommendations>T14 or a T14s (gen 1)these seem decent, is there any noticeable difference that I should consider or should I just get the one I can get for a better price
>>108905364I just bought a gen 2 T14s and I'd just watch out for the privacy screen. I doesn't hurt brightness that much, but it kills viewing angles. They also have a pretty big power range; I5's trought i7's and AMD's of all flavors.
>>108905364T14s has fully soldered RAM, a smaller heatsink and no ethernet port, but 7 Wh more battery capacity and a nicer feeling case
>went to the store last friday to browse SSDs for my new refurbished stinkpad>spot a 500gb for 139€>think "eh its fine but its a little bit much, let me think about it over the weekend">come back monday>exact same SSD now cost 179€ + they were all sold out somehowinsanely gay days we're living in.
>>108911288If you didn't buy everything you need for the next decade five years ago you're not gonna make it.
>>108884792I found a X230 for US$200, is it worth it? Thanks in advance for any insight on it
>>108911677Only if you are planning to Libreboot it.
>>108911677If it has nice specs (IPS, SSD, working battery), maybe. I'd personally take something newer and more efficient, but it does fill a lot of autistic niches that newer sub-14" models don't.
>>108911677I bought two (i5 models) in the $80-90 range a year ago
