how much Thinking is involved when using this?

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In https://rentry.org/concisewin10 I found:
>WARNING: A lot of OEMs label their own bloatware (like Lenovo Vantage) as drivers. Be sure to double check what you download (search the internet!) and avoid these programs (unless you intentionally plan on using them, but they often prove to be an unnecessarily heavy load on your system resources, and some of their features can be done by other programs that are free and more lightweight, so do your own research and weigh your choices carefully).

Is Lenovo Vantage that bad? I like the battery conservation mode it provides. By setting battery charging treshold you can stop charging your laptop's battery when laptop plugged into a power supply, preserving battery lifespawn. It also provides drivers and BIOS updates with one click.

What's your thoughts, is it a bloatware? So far I didn't see any ads.

>>108888190
It isn't as bad as some others, but it's still another background process that you might not want especially on older hardware. You can set the battery thresholds outside Windows or uninstall it after setting them, since they're stored in the EC flash.

Why do you keep shilling thinkpads now that framework exists?

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>>108888973
Literally the nipple

>>108889219
Nobody uses that in 2026.

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>>108889219
literally

>>108889272
As someone who daily drives an X200, you're wrong.

>>108888973
I dont have a gorillian dollars

>>108889579
>Core 2 Duo
You can't even watch youtube on that thing.

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> a rare thinkpad appears
> omg, it's a powerpc
> salivary glands in your mouth are hyperexcited

Do you guys reckon that the newer xx90s and T14's an newer models will last as much as the xx40-80s have? Or do you feel a decline in durability for the time you have been using the newer ones?

>>108889620
Yeah you can.

>>108888973
>framework
dogshit build quality shittier than elitebook.

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Do you /g/uys know where I can get a cheap ips screen for my x220?
also need a new battery.
Whats the longest battery life I can get with chink lithium?

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>>108891446
~self-bump

atleast tell me where you fa/g/s get your batteries for old thinkpads??

>>108891446
You can get those on Amazon for a reasonable price. I got a new X200 battery and it worked fine.

>>108888973
Trackpad buttons and more ports
Middle button trackpoint scroll is way more effortless than two fingers scrolling

>>108888973
Can't afford FW and it's overpriced anyway

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>>108884792
What's the best distro for a T430 at the moment that doesn't comply with the shitty ID verification and systemD garbage?
I was thinking of choosing between:
>Void
>Artix
>PCLinuxOS
Which of these three would be the best? Especially if I want it to be pretty lightweight and want good support for Proton for older games (i.e. Half-Life and TFC)

>>108896995
> doesn't comply with the shitty ID verification and systemD garbage
Just build a fork yourself, what you not a man?
https://github.com/Jeffrey-Sardina/liberated-systemd

Thoughts on the X13s Snapdragon?

any 14 inchers that stay cool and quiet and have a decent battery life? I need something to take to classes it doesn't need to be very powerful just enough to handle web and ms office type stuff

>>108901329
Budget? I'd recommend a T14 or a T14s (gen 1).

>>108888973
the modular usb c ports are just glorified dongles
my x61 has more ports than that and its smaller

>>108888973
I have a framework, but have been unhappy with it recently so I'm going to buy a thinkpad.

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>>108888973
Too expensive.

>>108896995
I'm curious about that too. I'll check out Void and Artix at some point.

Also can you lads dump your Thinkpad setups with animu girls? I need to start saving them

>>108901839
>Budget?
I forgot, about 200-ish euros would be nice but I'm open to any recommendations
>T14 or a T14s (gen 1)
these seem decent, is there any noticeable difference that I should consider or should I just get the one I can get for a better price

>>108905364
I just bought a gen 2 T14s and I'd just watch out for the privacy screen. I doesn't hurt brightness that much, but it kills viewing angles. They also have a pretty big power range; I5's trought i7's and AMD's of all flavors.

>>108905364
T14s has fully soldered RAM, a smaller heatsink and no ethernet port, but 7 Wh more battery capacity and a nicer feeling case

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>went to the store last friday to browse SSDs for my new refurbished stinkpad
>spot a 500gb for 139€
>think "eh its fine but its a little bit much, let me think about it over the weekend"
>come back monday
>exact same SSD now cost 179€ + they were all sold out somehow
insanely gay days we're living in.

>>108911288
If you didn't buy everything you need for the next decade five years ago you're not gonna make it.

>>108884792
I found a X230 for US$200, is it worth it? Thanks in advance for any insight on it

>>108911677
Only if you are planning to Libreboot it.

>>108911677
If it has nice specs (IPS, SSD, working battery), maybe. I'd personally take something newer and more efficient, but it does fill a lot of autistic niches that newer sub-14" models don't.

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>>108911677
I bought two (i5 models) in the $80-90 range a year ago

>>108884792
my t480 has officially rendered my two older laptops redundant and now i’m mad even though advancements in hardware naturally lead to this exact conclusiok

>>108888973
>no coreboot
hard pass on that senpai

>>108911338
I feel really bad, should've bought that fucker on the spot.
Thank God every other parts I can order on Ebay for cheap.
>>108911677
They're fun, got one too recently, but the battery was dead. I'm waiting for the one I ordered on Ebay to arrive. Hopefully I won't get chinaed

>>108911253
> no ethernet port
Technically you get that one 'ethernet extension connector' to plug that ethernet dock - but it's really dumb I have to agree.

>>108889272
There's no modern replacement

>>108889219
I call it the clit

how much is a fair price for a gen 6 X1C (16gb, i7, IPS)?
there is one locally I might get in hopes that the keyboard is as good as they say

>X220 i7
>Artix
>LXDE
>Openrc
>16GB

Thoughts?

>>108916331
I don't see why not. Even KDE works fine on these.

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>Complete, high-spec system that I can inspect firsthand for myself for the usual glowniggery glowniggers do with parcels they intercept
>The Jew within tries to stall and haggle an already good deal
>MFW it sells
The art of the deal.

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>>108884792
my X230 is foking dying son, my da accidentally hit the side with an electric fly swatter and half of the screen goes static, I cant find a decent IPS panel and a 9 cell battery fock my life

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>>108891446
>>108892406
what cunt son

>>108917312
https://www.amazon.com/GHU-Battery-Compatible-ThinkPad-Notebooks/dp/B07D3KJM1T/
https://www.amazon.com/AIREIXINGD-LP125WH2-Display-Replacement-ThinkPad/dp/B0D45N88QP/

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>>108917420
no amazon fuckin shits in my turdie region son, and so I have to gamble with no name chink online sellers straight from the burning depths of Shenzhen, luckily worked alright in the end and got a decent panel & sanyo batteries

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your chinkpad does have racing stripes, right anon?

pg. 10

i love my t420, it just werks :)

>>108884792
Starting to love this T440p, even though it has given me nothing but problems. Fortunately it's quite easy do disassemble.
The problem is I'm not tech savvy at all. I've been learning from fucking up the connections to the keyboard replacement, now the nipple doesn't work after i changed the keyboard, and wanted to change the mousepad to the t450 because i read about it and thought it was easier than i expected, only for it to choose not to turn on due to differing firmware and now I'm using an external mouse until i get the time to assemble it.
I also believe the mousepad - motherboard cable is damaged because i attached the old one and it didn't work either anymore. How can I get a replacement for it? on its side it says Cvilux E208903-3. dunno if it's generic or what.

>>108904768
what was the issue with it? i've been eyeing a 13 pro, and i'm not sure if i should cancel my preorder. i wanted to run some small LLMs on it.

>>108884792
Are GaN power adapters better than regular adapters?

>>108929767
Yes

>>108929767
It's lighter, so obviously yes.

Just installed an oled into my X1 carbon, it's pretty poggers honestly. 120hz, perfect blacks and finally zero backlight bleeding.

>>108929697
I've mentioned it before in some other /tpg/ threads, but I have the 16 and it's been issues building up over time.
Runs hot and loud a lot, graphical glitching that makes me believe it needs a new igpu (and motherboard). Still no official keyboard with the layout I use (been cheating it with blank ISO but still missing some keys I use a lot.
I considered getting a 13/pro since they do have the keyboard layout I use, but it would be a downgrade from the 16 for me that I don't like since there's less I/O ports and only 1 SSD.

>>108932803
thanks for the response. sounds frustrating. maybe a thinkpad would be better after all. i do use the trackpoint mostly.

>>108891446
I got an 'acuder' brand battery for my t430 on ebay and it's much better than batteries I've had before. I generally don't run on battery long enough to really see how long it lasts but with lighter use it ranges up to 7h (probably a generous estimate) on power manager. With normal use more like 3-5h. Right now I have 1h left at about 50% but I'm also playing a youtube video in the background and I'm on a video call.

If I go to a cafe and just want to do some work there in general I would assume I have 3-4 hours of battery life.

Thinkpad Ryzen X13 For 290 bucks worth it? I kinda need a backup computer in case my desktop croaks.

>>108884792
is an Asus X51R for 30 buck a good deal idk much about laptops but I've just seen a new listing go up and it's a great state it looks like an older elitebook the port selection seems pretty good

>>108936614
>is an Asus X51R for 30 buck a good deal
Depends on what you'd use it for but probably not.

>>108936614
Don't know about that model specifically but I've had two ASUS laptops over the years and both have been awful. My latest one lasted about two years before the battery that can't be replaced shat itself.

I wish the cutoff for Windows 11 had been post-8th gen processors so that I could upgrade to a quad-core system for cheap. Everyone being put onto ThinkPads by JewTubers certainly doesn't help.

>>108937980
>JewTubers
Can we keep antisemitism out of this thread?

>>108937980
>JewTubers
Can we please continue to keep antisemitism in this thread?

>>108917312
Did you find some?

>>108920238

i happen to have stiping tapes but not worthy laptop

thinkbumo

Why are t480s more expensive than t490s?

>>108889272
I do. I use it on my desktop, too. It's literally the only pointing device that is not complete dog shit. Superior to trackpad, mouse, trackball, and anything else you can think of. You either use a trackpoint, or you might as well not use a pointing device at all.

>>108938652
yea >>108917646

>>108941284
Lenovo cut down on modularity from T480(s) to T490(s) and Intel did just about nothing with the CPUs. Also the '80 gen recently gained coreboot support while the '90 gen doesn't have the Intel ME bug that makes it possible.

>>108941878
I mostly just want a backup computer when I am away from my desktop since I am almost always have to be available or in case my shit fails. Seems like a t480 is good enough.

Don't fall for the ThinkPad meme like I did. I bought P14s Gen 6, Arrow Lake (255H), Blackwell, 64 GB RAM, WQXGA. This is an absolute piece of shit. The fans start screaming with the lightest load, NVIDIA drivers are buggy garbage, I have to deal with random crashes and other nonsense with Linux every week. My M5 MacBook Air was half the price and is significantly better in every way in actual use.

>>108942065
>This is an absolute piece of shit. The fans start screaming with the lightest load, NVIDIA drivers are buggy garbage, I have to deal with random crashes and other nonsense with Linux every week.
None of that sounds like the ThinkPad's fault tbqh
>My M5 MacBook Air was half the price and is significantly better in every way in actual use.
So stick with that, faggot. What's the issue again if you already have a laptop that works for your use case?

>>108884792
Anyone know the cause for why an x230 would randomly poweroff? Is it the cpu overheating? I thought it was the battery causing issues but the same thing happens both with and without the battery plugged in. Sometimes it would also shut off just when booting the linux kernel in grub.

how long does your battery last from 80% to 20% under moderate use?

>>108943178
like 4-5 hours

>>108941878
I don't understand why recently-initiated normalfags hail Libreboot/Coreboot with such high regards. Most are under the impression that it replaces the firmware with one that's entirely FOSS, which is certainly NOT the case barring a few exceptions; there are still firmware blobs needed to boot/function. It's as if they're under the impression that by flashing *boot, that they just suddenly stop showing up on glownigger agencies' radars.
>>108888973
Why do you faggots refuse to buy an ad? Why would I pay more for something when I can meet my mobile computing needs for less?

>>108945349
>I don't understand why recently-initiated normalfags hail Libreboot/Coreboot with such high regards
t480 with libreboot is a meme in the original sense of the word. they overpay for one and put libreboot on it because they saw someone on the internet do that

>>108945616
>because they saw someone on the internet do that
Heh, imagine being niggercattle. Feels good to be enlightened and not easily influenced, amirite 4bros?

what is the current best thinkpad to buy used? I love my t430 but am wondering if there's anything more powerful that won't break the bank

>>108946476
T480

>>108946546
how much more powerful is it? I have a 3632qm

The used laptop marked is fucken in the eu. 250-300€ für a laptop that is soon e-waste. Where to get cheap laptops in the eu?

>>108946476
personally i'm looking at t14 gen 2s with an amd processor

>>108943178
7-8 hours on my T480 with the thick battery
3-3.5 hours on my T14g1 AMD

>>108947419
Broken ones with one clearly broken part and everything else working can be nice. It's how I put together my T14 for about 60% the usual price.

this is pretty much the only site i use so i'm not aware of trends on other platforms etc, but have thinkpads gotten popular anywhere else like on tiktok or something? the prices seem to have skyrocketed on my country's version of ebay. i shouldn't have waited lol

>>108946546
Not anymore with how much it's being memed.

>>108946550
About 25-30% improvement single-core and 40-50% multi-core. If you need more, get a T14 or L14 gen 1-2 with AMD.

>>108948704
Lots of videos on YT shilling X230 and T480 lately.

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When the fuck will they remove this fucking ugly stupid useless thing?! Did anyone ever use it?

>>108949094
corporate does apparently

>>108949094
If the pogo pin webcam that Lenovo is pushing on Thinkbook and Thinkpad X14 get popular, maybe.

>>108948704
I hate TikTok niggers so much it's unreal.

>>108949094
Hopefully never.
Makes it so much easier to open the lid one handed.

>>108946476
T14 Gen 1, now that the T480 is memed to death. Can probably get one in the 200-300 range
T450-T470 haven't been memed as much, but they have a somewhat slower core

>>108952178
Why gen 1 over gen 2?

>>108946476
if you can get it for 100 bucks or cheaper
T470p, T495

if you're willing to spend more
T14 G2, P14s G2

Solid alternatives for T480
Latitude 5400/7400

Cheap ultraportable
Latitude 5300/7300, X270, Yoga 370

>>108952220
Gen 1 AMD is nice in that it allows a second SSD unlike anything newer
Gen 1 Intel is Skylake++++ garbage identical to T490 except undervolting is blocked

>>108954954
NTA but are the Dell Vostro laptops any good? I need something just for school and there's this one Vostro 5410 that seems decent, it's cheaper than a T14 and supposedly has a better battery life, also I can't find any AMD T14s just intel ones around here though the vostro is intel too

I want to buy a laptop but I'm scared shitless of the keys dying. happened to two previous laptops I owned. should I avoid something related to this or is this just inherent to laptops.

>>108957238
>should I avoid something related to this
try using your fingers instead of your fists caveanon

>>108957261
I just gamed on them. I assume that's what caused it.

>>108957238
I’ve been there, anon. Instead of cumming directly on the keys you should lay some tissues down

>>108957238
Get a T14/T16/P16 and a spare keyboard or two. Cheapest if you get a T14 gen 1-2 for which there's a surplus of keyboards.

>>108956821
No, they are rebranded inspirons
Vostro is the "small business" line

I have a HP elitebook 2570p that is a bit long in the tooth. Were there ever any screen replacements for this model? 1080p ips or something? 12.5" 1366x768 is not pleasant

Is there a working corporate discount website from which to order from Lenovo? I know there used to be one through the Magellan Ascend / LifeMart portal several years ago. Anything similar nowadays?

what phone do thinkpad owners use?

>>108959565

looked into options samsung 1366x768 tn seem best

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>>108961528
I have neither a smartphone nor a mobile; I have a land line used for periodically informing callers that they are niggers, that they're fucking niggers.

>>108961528
I use a $250 S23 alongside my $250 T14 G1 AMD

Both hit the mark on being good fast cheap

>>108961528
Xiaomi budget phone from 2021.
I already bought a new phone for 5G but this old one still works well enough.

so what's the 2026 guide to better battery life for loonux using a X230?

can I use X270 NVMe bracket on X260?

What is the most powerful desktop replacement Lenovo laptop I can get that will drive 4 16:10 monitors via cables or a splitter or daisy chaining?

My aim is to be able to work and game but remain mobile in case I have to move countries. I also want to lock on a decently performing computer before everything goes to shit. Thanks.

I missed a once in a lifetime opportunity to order a new thinkbook with 32gb ram and a docking hub for around $1000 because I was indecisive. eventually someone bought the last one.
it sucks because this kind of laptop costs 50% to 100% more in my country.

>>108962624
Something like a P16/17, maybe a bulky lenovo legion.
>>108962720
Nah, Thunderbolt docks are like 30 bucks used and there's plenty of decent 32gb Thinkpads you can get for under 1k.

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>>108961528
The one my Mom gave me for my birthday.
Just buy the 300 bucks Samshit special A series and forget about it.
Or get an old one from your friend.

>>108962324
No, but what you can do is use the X260 SATA Express cable (01AW445) and one of the SATA Express to M.2 adapters (01HY317, 01HY319, 01AY477)

What's a T430 worth nowadays?
16gb ram, 1600x900 screen, 6 hour battery

>>108963959
I'd list it for $150 intact or $250 with coreboot preinstalled

>>108929767

gallium transistors are quite new that not sure yet but gan power adapter have less losses

I'm losing my mind with my T60. It's the perfect form factor, perfect screen ratio, perfect keyboard, and I use it a lot to play XP-era games among others, but a small flaw grinds my gears. Location of Ctrl+FN.
Newer Thinkpads have a BIOS option to swap Ctrl+FN, even the T61/X61s have a modified BIOS that allow you to swap the keys, but no matter how hard I searched nothing exists for the T60.
Any ideas? Is it possible to just modify the BIOS by myself somehow? I found some info about utilities called phnxdeco and phcomp to extract the bios modules from the bios update file and feed the result to a disassembler but after running the FL1 file to phcomp I got stuck.

>>108884792
bout 4 months now since i've owned this t480 and it's been nice. was thinking of buying the e16 i use at work off my office the day i decide to leave but now i'm not so sure

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I was cleaning up a ThinkPad I bought secondhand, and found some globs of liquid underneath the keyboard, on top of the film that prevents shorting in the event of some dumbass spilling liquid.

It was either semi-dried-up drops of Coke or some other brand of sodie pop, or blood.

Welp, I've got AIDS now--or maybe Ebola. Knowing the contexts of the both viruses, likely both.

Both viruses get REKT fairly quickly outside a host/vector, but can stick around for a while if suspended in droplets, and not in direct sunlight.

I'll call up my local YMCA and ask where to go from here...

i have these n22 chromebooks i bought bulk for resale and i corebooted them, xubuntu runs fine but nigger customers are afraid of linux and want windows. Lenovo sold n22's with windows so i figure it'd be no biggie, wrong. the emmc driver causes a fuckload of system interrupts, touchscreen and touchpad wont work, and installing the intel baytrail emmc host driver causes bsods. NONE of the drivers are hosted on lenovo's site and i had to go to other sites to get them. Lenovo is becoming my top hated brand right next to acer. HP might fall apart in 3 years but at least i can go get drivers for any of their shitboxes, its stunning to see systems that brick when the battery runs out, disintegrating keyboards, and 0 driver support and still everyone fucking shills this pile of shit brand

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>>108884792
I got a Panasonic. AMA.

>>108972274
Which one did you get? I got a sv8 for a steal on ebay

>>108973345
I got the FV4. I paid $1400 for it.

any opinions on/expriences with the dell latitude 5420

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>>108884792
what's the best model to get currently under $500?

>>108884792
Help, t420 suddenly integrated webcam not working. Is there any physical button that might cause this like wifi thingy?

>>108957313
buy a controller then

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I opened my T580 to find the source of a rattling noise and found this. What is it? Is it okay to remove it?

>>108979245
Looks like just a little spring that's supposed to make the tampering switch next to it trigger sooner. Safe to remove.

>>108974724
There's a setting in the bios for it

>>108966428
nvm I found a solution.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190210162408/http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fn-ctrl-swap-on-all-lenovo-laptops-solved.474396/
I followed the link here, downloaded the file for the T60, even did the "flash.bat" thing the forum post recommended I do, and it just werked. It's 1 version older than latest but after reading the lenovo changelog it's not important anyway.

so.. apple wins

>Order a t480 for 200 bucks with 8gb ram and a shitty 256gb sata ssd
>Get a p15 gen 1 with 32gb ram and a 1tb ssd
T-thanks I guess!?

>>108982703
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

>>108982703
did you stand up and clap once you opened the parcel

>>108982728
Yeah.Just the SSD is worth as much as the original laptop.
>>108982730
It is my first thinkpad and I didnt know it wasnt a t480 until I was reinstalling everything and saw the model. I was wondering why it was so fucking heavy.

Which 2nd hand ultralight business laptop should I buy for travel use? I'm going to install Linux on it.

>>108984602
X1 Nano

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Do you LOVE it?

>>108985289
Happy Pride Month!

>>108985306
Thanks!

>>108985289
>>108985306
>>108985329
Kill yourselves, faggots.

>>108985345
What's your problem??

>>108985354
You're not dead.

>>108985354
>What's your problem??
NTA but if I had to guess it's probably
>faggots

why not an E series, is it really a fake business experience

>>108985673
I've used two E models, E530 and E480, which both developed cracks from about a year of daily carrying

the keyboard on my T14s has been playing up, some keys don't work and it presses 6 by itself. i have disabled it using command prompt but now my trackpoint/ultranav buttons don't work. is there a way to re-enable those buttons while keeping the keyboard disabled?
i googled it already and couldn't find anything about this specific issue.

>>108948704
as a zoomer influencer not in the tech space yeah. they're also a huge meme with people who like electronic music like jungle or house music for being the epic "incel" computer which has made everyone go out and buy one to be quirky and ironic. same happened with the panasonic lets note too. also techtubers that review stuff have been shoving videos out the ass about "A REASONABLY GOOD COMPUTER FOR $300???" that are telling everyone to buy thinkpads.

>>108985673
it seems the newer E series are pretty good. i bought a E14 Gen 5 maxed out with a touchscreen, backlit keyboard, i7 and 16gb ram in mint condition for $250 and regret nothing. mine has a plastic shell with an aluminum lid and doesn't creak or feel terrible resting my hands on it. definitely nothing like a T400 but compared to modern consumer slop for $600 at your local store it's quite solid.

>>108988948
>same happened with the panasonic lets note too.
i found out about these when i was dicking around akihabara and was kinda impressed by how they kept old thinkpad features

are you telling me if i find someone else using it out in the wild, they are using it as a fashion accessory?

I noticed there are some thinkpads with a touchscreen at a decent price. but I don't really care about touchscreens on laptops, especially since they drain the battery faster even if you don't use it and disable it

>>108884792
x12 detachable is the laptop I've always wanted why do the fans suck?

Also insiders when does the gen 3 come out?

just saw one of those modded 51nb thinkpads going for 3k locally
are they really that much now?

>>108972274
post idle power consumption

>>108990772
seems to be an extension of the "classic" thinkpads becoming more popular

>>108988900
I just looked up replacement keyboards on ebay. looks like you have to replace the whole top part of the laptop case and it costs almost as much as I paid for the whole computer.

at least on the older models you could just pop out the keyboard and just replace that for 6like $30

>>108990389
yeah. i guess i can try to track down posts on tiktok and such but there's egirls and whoever the fuck else wants to larp as a 2000s nerd on there buying them. but it's still a niche and not a mainstream thing yet

>>108985363
kek

Should I get this?
>thinkpad e14 gen3
>ryzen 5 5500u
>8gb ram
>57wh battery
coworker is asking $115usd. he said it has an empty ram slot so I can add more ram if needed.

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>>108993486
as long as its not beat up and the battery lasts at least 30 mins yeah

>>108985363
based

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Currently looking to buy a laptop for light use, media consumption, chatting, browsing, 90's & 2000s pc games and emulation, maybe some documents, etc. I've been looking at the Latitude 5420 and 7420, and I'm currently leaning towards the 7420 because the screen and build quality are nicer.
Any other laptops I should consider? I've most recently used x220 and t430, would prefer something more modern than those. I did have a look at t480 and t14 gen 1/2, but I don't really want to pay the thinkpad tax when I'm looking for something <€250.
Fwiw I think I will miss the small size of the x220, but 14inch is fine.
>>108954954
Latitude naming conventions are confusing.
>>108973955
Seconding this. I like that it has non-soldered ram, but I've heard bad things about the screens and they look like they get scuffed easily.

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>>108889272
I am using it right now except whenever I am typing (which takes less than a few milliseconds to use the TrackPoint again), so you're wrong

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Old meme pad picture from class like 10 years ago almost.

>be europoor
>second hand X13's go for about 4-5 hundo if you don't want your keyboard plastered with stickers
>realize for about a hundred eurodollars extra I can get a macbook neo
my knees are buckling thinkbros

>>108998093
>8gb ram
at least wait 6-8 months for the 12gb model to come out

>>108990540
I had an elitebook with a touchscreen (2760p). I never used the touchscreen function and it ended up killing the machine because it would randomly go ape shit and start making ghost inputs. Ever since then I have avoided touchscreen laptops.

Is the x270 (i5 7200u, 8gb) good enough for microcontroller programming and circuit/cad drawing? I need a laptop for EE school and there's one nearby for cheap. I will be running lightweight linux on it.

>>108999629
It's fine for that purpose, I love mine, but read this before you buy: https://old.reddit.com/jq53yt

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Have you ever had to replace a key on your T480 keyboard? Pic related are the four options I have for the T480 on a website that sells replacement keys, and on the bottom is a pic of my laptop missing key, which one should I choose? It seems it doesn't match any 1:1 as far as I can tell


but I'm not sure which one matches mine

thoughts on the gen 4 Carbon X1? i need it for light business work, browsing, and occasional media consumption. i put cachyOS on it and its running stable, just curious to see if there were any quirks i had to look out for

can you run a new t16 gen 5 all day as desktop replacement? external monitor

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>>108998093
Neo is shit.
Get the air atleast, if you want the real faggot experience™.
And at that point you're already well into used X13 gen4 territory(Peak Business Experience™).

>>108999591
Sounds like an HP problem. I've used multiple touchscreen Thinkpads as daily drivers (T450s, T495 and X1C 2020) with multiple Windows versions and Linux distros and I've never had any issues.

thinkbumo

Where do you guys buy replacement parts?

>>108884792
I have an E560 that's lasted me for the past 10 years. I love it, but it's starting to show its age. After unlocking the screen will stay black for at least 5-10 minutes until randomly turning on, the task bar will freeze and/or disappear and will (occasionally) reappear after 5-10 minutes, and applications will sometimes freeze when trying to open them (usually just VLC, Spotify and Chrome).
Is it worth trying to repair/is there anything I can do? I don't know much if anything about laptops/tech but I don't want to spend a grand on a new laptop if I don't have to. I don't use my laptop for much, just browsing, Discord, Spotify and DVDs/VLC and I love everything about my current one, espcially the screen size.

Ordered a refurb AMD X13 Gen 2 with 16GB RAM, more or less just for light browsing, I can remote into my desktop for anything super heavy.
How bad did I fuck up?

>>108884792
Is it ok to talk about rugged laptops here?
I'm planning to buy a rugged laptop next time, I was wondering if their cooling is actually better. Does anyone have any experience?
I mean they are supposed to work at higher temps so they must have beefy coolers right?

>>109001051
>Sounds like an HP problem
That experience also turned me off of HP as well as touchscreens. It's a crying shame to because the elitebook had the best track point (or whatever the hell they call theirs) of any laptop I've ever used. I could play FPS games with it just as well if not better than any mouse.

Why would I buy a Thinkpad for browsing and other light tasks when I can get a much newer Latitude for the same price or cheaper?

>>109003000
I dislike Latitude cooling. I'm >>109002545 , I'm literally looking at rugged laptops for better cooling since I don't mind the weight and rugged benefits.

It's not so bad that it's unusable but I don't want laptop surface to be warm to touch and I don't want the fan to be always running.

>>109003000
Dude, you're getting a Dell!

>>109002495
if anything its slightly overkill
x1 carbon would be more optimal since its more lightweight

>>109004109
how is Dell any worse than a Chinknovo

>>109003000
I rode 4 latitudes from work to death and 1 personal one. They all died of something, be it a bloated battery (at work thats enough to get one replaced) or a busted motherboard

This NEVER happened to me with a chinkpad, I have an x200 that is still happily chugging along and 3 others that work just fine. Fuck Dell they aren't even trying

>>109005475
Is this a thing with the older ones too? I've been looking into Latitudes, mostly 5480 5420 5410, for uni they seemed like a pretty good deal and at least over here ThinkPad prices are insanely inflated

>>109005475
>bloated battery
>throw out laptop
what kinda idiot techs do you have at your workplace

>>109005543
its a fortune 500 company and they have a huge blanket agreement with Dell, I think that machine was 3-4 years old and if it hits a certain date they just chunk it, won't bother replacing the battery. They just gave me a new one and that didn't even last two years.

As far as my own personal laptops I only had ONE fail on me in the last 15 years and it was a fucking latitude.

Is it worth getting a T480 for privacy? I'm currently using a T450 but the battery is dying and touchpad is not working correctly so even though it's easily replaceable I'm thinking of just getting a T480 to put libreboot on it and such

>>109003000
people love to bitch that laptops these days are non repairable pieces of shit
that manufacturers are all just cheaping out on the keyboard, chassis, power button etc that make the laptop break sooner
the reality is this is what people pay for

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>>109005846
Yes

Have any of you tried the new X61 port of coreboot? Any important bugs to know about before flashing it?

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>>108884792
Hey anons. I'm unsure if this is the thread for it, but this was the only laptop thread up right now.

I'm going for a PhD at an very prestigious (ivy league tier) university next year. Research fields: AI, image recognition, intelligent control systems (mobile robots, drones, drone swarms, etc.)

Primary use case: run local models as close to SOTA as possible with a laptop when the uni lab computers are booked. (also run good generative local models for fun whille I'm at it)
Secondary use: video games
Teritary use: large additional storage space or ability to add another disk (HDD is good too for these, I can be a hoarder at times when it comes to movies, but main drive(s) should be SSD obviously)
Budget: soft cap around $4000
Weight or bulkiness is not much of a limitation to me as long as it can be reasonably carried.

Laptop necessary 'cause I likely won't be able to build up a good computer in the dormitory and I need a laptop anyways so I don't want to buy two computers if possible.
Recommendations from people in the field or with relevant or similar experience are much appreciated.

>>109007577
>Primary use case: run local models as close to SOTA as possible with a laptop
lol, retard

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>>108886564
A large amount of Think

>>109007905
I'm well aware that a laptop won't run SOTA and models anywhere near it, which is why I specified
>as close to SOTA as possible

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>>108884792
What do you anons think about mainboard upgrades like the X210ai? Are they worth it over buying newer gen Thinkpads? What about other such mainboards, are they worth it more compared to something so expensive?

Can I flash skulls internally from a laptop thats already running heads?

>>109011331
Yes

What's the best quad core ddr3 laptop?

>>109011654
How?!

>>109011785
W530

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>>109005846
>Is it worth getting a T480 for privacy?
Lol, lol lmao. It's worth upgrading from a T450 if you can't afford anything newer, which would be more advisable considering that the T480 now has the normalfag/e-celeb tax appended to it. The uninitiated (the ignorant) need to understand that flashing libreboot does NOT suddenly prevent glowniggers from being able to spy on you. The concern with stock BIOS/UEFI is that it's proprietary; you don't know what all of its components do with 100% certainty. This same concern exists for the leftover blobs required to boot. There exists firmware outside of the main system firmware that can feasibly be used to pwn you too, not to mention the low-hanging fruit that is one's own browsing habits. There are also microcode updates, without which may introduce vulnerabilities. The most apparent benefit to flashing an alternative firmware is that it's an up-to-date, regularly maintained firmware.

If anyone cared about privacy, they would have protested relentlessly against the passing of shit like the Patriot Act and all manner of glownigger legislation since then. It's happening right now with AI and mass surveillance. But I assume you were too young to do anything about it then, and too young/ignorant to do anything about it now--protest and conscientious objection, I mean, not falling for pre-conceived glownigger false flags for which you would only be serving as their pawn.

If you're so concerned for your privacy, move somewhere entirely devoid of computers.
>>109007577
>I'm going for a PhD
Tongue my anus, faggot.

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>>109012048
>they would have protested relentlessly against the passing of shit like the Patriot Act
and yet everyone who did has to live in a timeline where it passed

>>109012048
Ah shit has normalfag tax really gone that high now? What other options are solid at the moment? Also thanks for the paragraph but you're making a lot of incorrect assumptions.
>If you're so concerned for your privacy, move somewhere entirely devoid of computers.
Let's be honest that's not an option anymore in the modern world

>>109010266
Personally I think it is worth it if you want an older style laptop with modern internals. Battery life would be the main concern.
I ordered one, just waiting on it to be shipped to me so I can take the ssds and ram out of my current laptop to put in it.

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Can someone tell me which driver is the one I need to install on the x230t for the digitizer and pen to behave optimally? I specifically want the ability to remap the pen button on win10 (if it could improve some strokes not registering that would be nice too).
Checking online and asking AIs but I only get conflicting answers. Hoping someone here who actually owns one knows.

>>109012048
amazing post

How do I prevent Commercial Vantage from updating itself? My X260 was working fine on the old version and the fucking auto update removed the Battery Threshold setting.

>>109002495
>amd
very

>>109005846
no get a x230 and flash canoeboot

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Thoughts on Latitude 6401? Is the thermal really that bad? i7-9850H 6C !2T sounds pretty juicy

>>109016896
Just looks like a worse Thinkpad.
6C 12T is just your overclocked ryzen 5 in terms of performance.

>>109018194
still I can find it cheaper than T480 here and it should blow T480 out of the water in terms of performance... on paper..

>>109016896

basically you do not want H or HX unless you run laptop at cooled facilities

>>109013229
>has normalfag tax really gone that high now?
Yes, you have all been assimilated into the normalfag collective unconscious. All of your hobbies and interests will be breached and co-opted by them, bastardizing interactions of the original community.

You really should have upgraded sooner, especially in light of AI data centers' increasing demands. The time to buy was ~2 years ago, just after T480's libreboot release, seeing how that always adds its own tax.
>you're making a lot of incorrect assumptions
Such as?

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>>109014416
image your computer and restore it
or don't use windows

>>108884792
ok you pulled my arm i bought a used gen P15v Gen 2
it says "amazon renewed" but opening it up , with the dust build up in the fan apparently their renew procedure didn't involve opening it up cleaning the fans and changing the thermal paste , also the the heat sink thing was missing a screw,
so, roll of the dice i guess

what's the cheapest new laptop i can get for some light multitasking with an external monitor

>>109022420
ipad

Is it normal for t14 gen 1 amd with ryzen 3 pro 4450u to have fclk of 1250 max and 1200 uclk. I got 102ns latency and 32gb bandwidth in aida64 on dual channel 3200. Laptop feels a bit laggy

>>108884792
haptic touchpad is pretty good ngl

>>109024105
I have x13 gen 1 AMD with 4650U and I for me Uclk and Mclk stay at 1200MHz as well, should go all the way to 1600 but it doesn't. I only tested it with win 10.

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what do you guys think of my T14 setup? i am dualbooting windows, which is why I cant install libreboot

>>109026114
drainage is at 8 W when doing basic 4chan browsing

>>109026126
intel or AMD?

>>109026220
Intel© Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz × 4

>>108884792
I saw someone with a thinkpad with windows11 installed. Is it inappropriate to tell them its meant to run linux?

T420 or T430?

>>109026281
>Sandy Bridge, or Ivy Bridge?
Are you retarded? They're both obsolete overheating pieces of shit. You're 10 years too late for the meme.

>>109026281
I'm not married to T420's classic keyboard, so T440p

>>109026250
>Intel© Core™ i7-10510U
hopefully you got it for under 250 bucks cause it's still a U series Skylake++++ CPU

>>109026415
got it for 220 I think,
do you think it is a valid setup that I can run for the next couple of years? also is 8W an acceptable drain?

>>109026443
personally 8W is a bit on the acceptable high end
my 10th gen intel setup uses 3.5-4.5W when browsing/scrolling 4chinz but that shit has soldered DDR3 RAM so its no performance beast

if you have TLP installed and you have the power-saver profile configured and tuned (to your acceptable performance) you are good to go
if the battery life is acceptable and you can do all your work I don't see any issue

Just installed coreboot for the first time on a new thinkpad I got today. I used the internal flashing instructions from the docs for the T530 (downgrading the BIOS and using the S3 sleep exploit, then flashrom)
I still don't feel comfortable about Intel ME though, what should I do? I really don't want to have to figure out external flashing given how weird this model is with the 4MB chip hidden by the chassis, since I've never done anything like that before and I have no real electronics experience. I do have an old rapsberry pi 3 somewhere though if I want to go that route.
I am hoping someone on here is more autistic than me and has already done this stuff and can give me sage advice

>>109025919
I think it is due to limitations in bios they probably played it safe cause of soldered ram. Fucking amd and their infinity fabric

>>109028523
Memory clock also lowers the iGPU performance.
Each piece of software shows different value.
It's stupid.
Adrenaline shows 1333MHz as the max memory clock for the iGPU for example.
I would need to install Penguin to see if that would change anything.

>Laptop has good screen
>Soldered on RAM
>Laptop has RAM slots
>Most atrociously dogshit screen ever conceived
Why is there no middle ground? Pissing me off.

>>109029715
Conspiracy to make people learn to replace their screens

>>109029715
what computer are you even looking at

There has to be a way to get my x61 running near silently and I will figure out how to do it. This fan is getting annoying. No, I will not "upgrade" to a newer thinkpad.

>>109030098
coil whine or fan noise?

>>109030395
fan noise. I cleaned it but I wonder if it's misshapen. I have a replacement coming in but I don't think I'll be satisfied with it. I'm looking into rigging up a much more silent fan.

Is there a thinkpad t14 where the "ctrl" button is not second place on the left side?

>>109018777
Just ThrottleStop it

>>109031402
Swap Fn and Ctrl keys in the BIOS or in Lenovo Vantage.

>>109031402
They changed it from Fn Ctrl to Ctrl Fn with gen 5 in 2024

>>109030096
Lenovo Yoga 6, Asus Zenbook 13 Flip. Both are 13 inches, which I quite like, have great screens, and have excellent battery capacity. They've got 8gb of ram, though, both soldered. As for the bad screen modifiable ones, every thinkpad (some are soldered now though), my Ideapad 3, which has the most godawful screen ever put on a device (seriously I don't think any device has ever had a worse one), and this Asus x515, which has a decent screen (way better than any thinkpad or ideapad, despite also being 45% NTSC) AND is easily upgradeable, but has a huge screen with a 37wh(!!) battery, which might be the worst modern laptop battery on a non-ARM laptop I've seen.

>>109030726
my x61 has this tendency to get up to 100 degrees sometimes so I swapped the heat pipe + cooling fan assembly from an x60
for some reason that worked and the max temps only go up to 80
can't tell if its because of the fan
did you undervolt the cpu? i think the penryn x61 might have the best chance of being more efficient

>>109032879
I think soldered RAM is fine as long as the speeds are better than SODIMM but the catch is it already has to be at a size you want like 32GB

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>>109031402
I moved the fn key myself when the other guy on /tpg/ told me it's possible

are batteries for the t14 pretty easy to come by? not being able to find a good quality replacement battery has killed several of my past laptops

>>109032904
That's the problem, every damn version fo the Zenbook Flip 13 and Yoga 6 with more than 8 GB are ridiculously expensive.

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>>109032921
thats refreshing to hear

>>109032927
I don't know what you used to own but you should at least be able to find aliexpress replacements
it should last longer if you cap the charging to something like 85%

>>109032938
its insane companies still sell 8GB for something that premium
those look like older models though is that form factor something you really want?

>>108985289
No, stickers are cancer.

Is it worth upgrading my TP25 from 16GB to 64GB? I regularly run low on RAM so I end up never using it. Took it on a trip and really enjoyed having it so now I'm trying to fix my main issue with it.

>>109033157
This.

>>108932632
Enjoy your burn poggers burn in

>>109033058
>that form factor something you really want?
Oh yeah, absolutely. I love smaller laptops, they're extremely cozy and have good portability. Perfect for VNs (and I hold my laptops weird when I'm laying down, so the heavier it is, the worse it is, generally)

>>109034199
Thanks, I will enjoy the best display possible for 3 years before selling it off

Trying to buy a thinkpad for the first time. Is a T14s with a 5850u, 32gb ram and 500gb ssd worth 500$? It has touchscreen and fingerprint reader if it matters. The guy is also giving it with those old mechanical docking station and bunch of other shit like a T lock for it.

>>109036972
$350 would be reasonable

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>>108884792
Instructions unclear. I got a Panasonic; no refunds. How badly did I fuckup?

>>109037034
Holy meme

>>109034725
I'm not >>109037034 but I found a used CF-QV1 to use for playing VNs
have you considered used?

any of you put ptm7950 in your 'pads?

>>109007577
dude if you need the horsepower and storage just build a server/desktop and remote into it with a cheap laptop with tailscale or smth. especially if you don't have to pay for electricity or don't care you can get pretty powerful stuff used

>>109038558
I put it on my superior 'et's 'ote

>>109037034
>be me
>find a lot of different javanese laptop models (fujitsu, panasonic, toshiba)
>price is decent
>specs are not so different from the holy grail of old thinkpads
>shipment price is a bit expensive but try anyways
>search about support for custom bootloaders (coreboot, libreboot) and intel ME removal.
>strangely nothing was found, ask ai and it said FORGET Japanese brands. Zero coreboot support, zero community interest, zero documentation.
What the fuck? why javbros are just fine with mossad minix spyware on their cum machine? they know about glowniggers jerkmate with them when succubus gaki shows on screen? no one told them about it?

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>>109041667
>coreboot, libreboot and intel ME removal
The former two aren't bootloaders; they're firmware, and the latter can be applied to a generous number of boards with CPUs up to a certain generation thus far. You can't remove it completely--not with any model post-X60--but you can lobotomize it so that it only needs a certain portion of it for startup.
>Zero coreboot support, zero community interest, zero documentation
Did you try making your queries in Nihongo?
>why javbros are just fine with mossad minix spyware on their cum machine?
Nips are America's niggercattle, the same way Americans are Israel's niggercattle.

>>108884792
Is a Lenovo ThinkPad T580 Intel Core i7-8550U with 32GB of RAM and 1TB NVMe with a 4K panel for $280 USD a good deal?

>>109044578
The RAM and NVME alone are worth more than that

what products are safe to use for cleaning used laptops? i've heard isopropyl alcohol can dissolve coatings so was thinking of just wiping with a mild dish soap solution

>>109046394
Dawn

>>109047250
nice, won't have to buy anything then

>>109040499
why dont you answer what idle wattage you get

>>109049347
Idk

>>109027993
I have externally flashed a few Thinkpads in my time, including a T400 and a T520. Get a Pomona SOIC-8 clip and wire it up to the raspberry pi. There are cheaper Chinese clones on Amazon than the official Pomona ones that work fine. Watch videos by Tripcode Q/C (https://www.youtube.com/@tripcodeQ7) and repair videos for your model until you are confident enough to take it apart yourself. A lot of the T-series models have similar construction and disassembly steps even if they are a couple generations apart. Keep track of what screws go where. A lot of cups or a pill caddy is useful, with a piece of paper to keep track of which set of screws go to what part.
This video should be close to your model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znS-2umyBJs
The old Libreboot instructions show you how to wire a Pomona clip to a raspberry PI.
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/spi.html
Just a matter of connecting those Arduino jumpers to the right pins. The T400 Libreboot article also has good picture guide on how to take apart a T-series Thinkpad.
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/t400.html
Use the stock Raspberian Linux that came with the Raspberry PI, and the flashing commands should work for your model.
Luke Smith and Wolfgang's Channel also have useful Coreboot/Libreboot videos if you want more examples of external flashing.

>>109051469
I've done a bit more research since I posted that. The T530 isn't anything like the other models. There are 2 chips that share all their pins (with a floating chip-select pin) and the 4MB is hidden under the chassis, so you have to either do some weird stuff with hooking up individual pins to wires and powering chip-select with a screwdriver, or fully disassemble the laptop and take out the board (more than just the partial disassembly like in the video). It's genuinely poorly documented, there are no videos online for it for example. You might have just gotten lucky with your thinkpads. Or I was unlucky and got the bad one.

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Hi guise.

I am thinking of buying a 2nd-hand bang-for-buck workhorse laptop(some GPU, decent CPU).
Code, web browsing, some gaming on the side.

Looking around, I arrive at the T480 and this guide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1cq3u2u/the_ultimate_thinkpad_t480_buying_guide/

First candidate is, for 180USD, Lenovo Thinkpad T480 Core i5-8350U, 8GB DDR4, 256GB SSD, 1920 x 1080 FHD screen(can add ram and better ssd later).

I have a few questions:
- In the page I linked it is mentioned that the i7 cpus for the t480 are not that much better performance for the price. The i7s do however sport something called vPro. As a heavy RDP user, how useful is it in practice?
- AMD mobile CPUs+iGPUs. More bang for buck?

>>109053089
>180USD
On the expensive side especially with so little RAM. I bought my T480s with 16GB over a year ago for 140.
>vPro
Isn't very useful unless you want to change firmware settings or install OSes remotely. Note that the 8350U has vPro too.
>AMD
In this gen AMD has better iGPU but worse CPU perf than Intel. Next gen (T495) catches up to Intel and the following one (T14 gen 1) leaves it in the dust. T14 gen 1-2 AMD are probably the best value now unless you need the extended battery options of T480 etc.

>>109053089
>>109053347
Ok so, considering T14 now.

But I also found Thinkpad X390 YOGA i5-8265U Ram 8Gb Ssd 128Gb NVME + stylus for 220USD.
Which is interesting goal departure(stylus/graphics, convertible), but also smaller screen and probably worse CPU, same iGPU as t480.

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>>109053089
>>109053347
>>109053672

But I bet 8gb ram, i5-8350U, 256gb ssd(yuck) t480 at 133USD is a steal.
It's just that it has keyboard marks on the screen. They're not an issue beside cosmetically, right?

>>109053832
ive seen some cases where it does not rub out
the screen is replaceable though

>>109054127
It's also cleanable. Many keyboard marks are just grease stains. If they don't come off and the pad was advertised as any condition better than "used", return it. Replacing the screen is usually more expensive than waiting for a better deal.

>>109054884
How do you get grease stains off without damaging the screen?

Lightest stinkpad with the best non oled display? Minimum 100% srgb

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>>109055049
Glass cleaner on microfibre cloth, repeat with clean part of cloth till stain is gone.
Key is using clean part of cloth every time.

I have a W540 I've been using for around 12 years and I want to refurbish it. My current plans are as follows:
>Add 2 x 8 GB DDR3L 12800S RAM
>Dump, mod, flash BIOS to remove Wi-Fi card whitelist
>Replace Intel Wireless-N 7260 with Intel AX210
>Replace 500 GB HDD with SSD
>Replace optical drive with caddy for the old HDD.
>Replace thermal paste and clean out fans/interior
>Replace keyboard with same but new
I just had a couple questions I want advice on:
>What 2.5" SATA SSD to get?
>Should I use empty M.2 slot for M.2 2242 SSD to use as boot drive?
>What kind of thermal paste to buy?